/lit/ - Literature

[Anonymous No.18057726]

You got any books about transsexuals? I'll take pro and contra books about it, just no /pol/ shit about trannies and jews. God knows that we got enough of those.

[« Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ » !!bGBGaUpA8kS No.18057747]

>>18057726
>your

For the millionth time.
The Satyricon, Petronius
Orlando, Woolf

[Anonymous No.18057751]

>>18057726
any award winning book after 2010

[Anonymous No.18057775]

>>18057726
what is this man going to do when he is 45 years old I am curious

[Anonymous No.18057786]

>>18057775
Age like fine wine.

[Anonymous No.18057790]

>>18057751
kek

[Anonymous No.18057794]

>>18057775
He takes estrogen so he's not going to look like a man, if that's what you talking about.

[Anonymous No.18057799]

>>18057726
Why? Why do you care? Why would you ask here? You exact what asked not to have is what you're gonna get. Breaking it down into pro and anti also strikes me as unproductive. Gender Trouble by Judith Butler and Gender Transitions by Claire Colebrook might interest you if this isn't just bait.

[Anonymous No.18057803]

>>18057777
>>18057777
>>18057777
>>18057777

[Anonymous No.18057809]

>>18057726
https://www.antelopehillpublishing.com/product-page/the-transgender-industrial-complex-by-scott-howard

[Anonymous No.18057819]

>>18057794
He will, just wait.

[Anonymous No.18057831]

>>18057726
Those hands... The horse/incel face, tons of makeup- God, you can always clock them.

[« 𓃠 » !!otEKkOuslF1 No.18057833]

>>18057747
O B S E S S E D

[Anonymous No.18057848]

>>18057726
Delete this thread and just search the archives, maybe two anons will recommend books, the rest will hate on trannies for all the wrong reasons (there are right ones I won't share here)

[Anonymous No.18057849]

>>18057833
Dog-anon? The anti-buttercunt poster?

[Anonymous No.18057854]

>>18057726

[Anonymous No.18057858]

>>18057799
Stay cis buckaroo, don't let a horde of redditors manipulate you into thinking your hard-to-pin suffering can be simply explained with the easy answer of gender dysphoria, it ain't worth it

[« Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ » !!bGBGaUpA8kS No.18057875]

>>18057833
I try not to be a grammar nazi, but that one is so bugsome.

>>18057849
That’s a cat

[Anonymous No.18057877]

you could read the man who would be queen by j michael bailey

[Anonymous No.18057886]

Irreversible Harm Abigail Shrier. It is honestly excellent journalism which basically inarguably proves its points.

[« Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ » !!bGBGaUpA8kS No.18057899]

>>18057786
By losing all his hair.
Well, some old ladies wear wigs. Once he gets that sexless he’ll probably be able to pass

[Anonymous No.18057922]

>>18057899
Hrt prevents hair loss

[Anonymous No.18057952]

>>18057922
Ironic given the relative prevalence of male pattern baldness in trans-"women."

[Anonymous No.18057955]

>>18057922
Nope. You cannot remove DHT completely from your system.

[Anonymous No.18057965]

>>18057799

[Anonymous No.18057967]

>>18057952
Late transitioners.

>>18057955
Hair grows back in many cases with hrt

I can do this all day

[Anonymous No.18057976]

>>18057799
.

[Anonymous No.18057985]

>>18057799
,

[Anonymous No.18057993]

>>18057799
:

[Anonymous No.18057998]

>>18057993
It's like the stuff on the left yes

[Anonymous No.18058000]

>>18057799

[Anonymous No.18058001]

>>18057965
Wow :0
Some creepy guy did s sex change on a kid without their consent and this somehow has any bearing on people who decide to have a sex change of their own volition other that forcing someone to live as the gender they don't want to live as is bad? Crazy shit mister stone toss. Keep pumping out those mind bombs.

[Anonymous No.18058002]

>>18057726
Maybe it's because I live in a fairly red state, idk, but I've never seen a tranny once in my life. This site, no matter what board you're on, is always talking about trannies.

[Anonymous No.18058007]

>>18057726
butterfly's diary

[Anonymous No.18058010]

>>18058000
Funny that this tranny actually looks good >>18057726 and destroys your argument

[Anonymous No.18058015]

>>18057799
;

[Anonymous No.18058024]

>>18058010
In no universe does that look like a woman

[Anonymous No.18058026]

>>18057799
'

[Anonymous No.18058041]

>>18058024
It looks like a women to my dick

>>18058015
Trannies are my fetish. They must exist

>>18058026
Injecting Estrogens is not damage.

[Anonymous No.18058046]

>>18057965
>>18057976
>>18057985
>>18057993
>>18058000
>>18058015

Like, you have literally saved this pics jerking off to the moment you were going to use then on "those damn trannies" LOL.

Not even god's mercy will be enough to save such a meek soul.

[Anonymous No.18058067]

>>18057976
>>18057985
>>18057993

So that's how you form your own opinions? By reproducing memes that some incel with a lot of free time spent his weekend on? dunno you look like such a cuck

[Anonymous No.18058074]

>>18057799
>>18058010
Except he doesn't. Broad shoulders, vertically stretched pec-ish boobs. Hands perpetually held to obscure still obvious hugeness. Feminine penis. Hidden man feet and general skeleton, no hips, manly abdomen. It literally looks like a thin nerdball who put a bunch of makeup and a wig on. And the irony is that this is the top 1% of those who try and the VAST majority don't even come close. You can't deny nature.

[Anonymous No.18058080]

>>18057875
Nice comma splice

[Anonymous No.18058092]

The person in the OP webm is an actual girl pretending to be trans.

You guys haven't figured that out?

[Anonymous No.18058094]

>>18058074
I don't know what world you're living in. You must be a self hating tranny yourself if you think he doesn't pass

[Anonymous No.18058095]

>>18057799

[Anonymous No.18058096]

[Anonymous No.18058112]

>>18058096
When will you turn 18?

[Anonymous No.18058119]

>>18057799
https://www.dailywire.com/news/researchers-issue-correction-on-key-claim-in-study-supporting-transgender-surgery

[Anonymous No.18058126]

>>18057967
It doesn't. Once the follicle is gone iot's gone forever. Every himbo who cycles on /fit/ knows it, and you are delusional. Estrogen does not make follicles reopen, and the lack of testosterone does not reverse this process. If you see any tranny whose hairline "recovered", they got hair plugs. Those are no longer a procedure that only rich people can afford, although they don't solve the problem.

[Anonymous No.18058131]

>>18058001
It indicates the concept of gender, and thus transgender, is a load of shit. Gender is for words and was only ever used in linguistics until the 60s. Humans have sex, two of them.
It's why you see so many non-English speaking countries talk against "gender ideology", for them there's only sex and gender makes no sense in their language.

[Anonymous No.18058140]

>>18058112
I am well past 18
When will you turn 50?
Oh yeah....never

[Anonymous No.18058143]

>>18058094
You yourself say he. Your psycho-ideological cucking may not be as deep as you yourself think. Or you are a based but faceblind autist. If you are not autistic and think he looks like a woman you are probably incredibly lonely and isolated from contact with real women.

[Anonymous No.18058153]

>>18057726
There's a Lobo Antunes book about a father who turns trap, it's called What will I do when everything burns... I think that's the translation.

[Anonymous No.18058157]

>>18058140
You are not even 18. Why do you act like a child? Look at all these replies to this poster >>18057799

You're a literal teenager

[Anonymous No.18058166]

>>18058157
I am 27
Seethe, cope, dilate.
In that order.

[Anonymous No.18058167]

>>18058067
No, but it is an effective means to communicate my thinking and give to frens to share themselves. If memes weren't an effective means of communication, Media Matters wouldn't exist. I can understand how it would be hard for you to even conceptualize that someone might be more than a heteronomous automata of their culture given your position.

[Anonymous No.18058170]

>>18058143
He looks good to me. I don't care if he's a real women or not because I'm not a stupid incel in a thread about people I hate. I don't operate on hate, I operate on positive emotions. So I will always be richer than you.

[Anonymous No.18058181]

>>18058041
>chemical castration
>Not damage

[Anonymous No.18058187]

>>18058166
You don't act like you're 27, you act like you're 17. Half the people on this site are kids and you're one of them. Leave before its too late kid.

[Anonymous No.18058191]

>>18057726
Read terfs if you want something against trans people besides /pol/ I guess

[Anonymous No.18058194]

>>18058181
How else can they look good so that I can fap to them?
Chemical castration is a small price to pay

[Anonymous No.18058195]

>>18058094
>if you think he doesn't pass
Lol, you should meet with actual women.
A lot of trannies try to emulate anime girls, because that's their only interaction with the female sex, but anime girls don't even act like humans let alone women.

[Anonymous No.18058216]

>>18058195
So you're saying trannies are superior to women. Because anime girls are superior to women

[Anonymous No.18058225]

>>18058195
>A lot of trannies try to emulate anime girls, because that's their only interaction with the female sex, but anime girls don't even act like humans let alone women.
Surprisingly accurate

[Anonymous No.18058227]

>>18058131
It does no such thing you brainwashed little trollop.

[Anonymous No.18058242]

>>18058170
I don't operate on hate either. I don't hate him. I operate on love. I think it is pathetic to indulge mental illness to seem and feel virtuous along consequentialist moral reasoning, especially when their acceptance in cultures has little to no relative significance to their suicidality (which they are the highest demographic considered by a considerable degree aside for psychotic people who are by far the closest measure to them), comorbidity with other mental illnesses, etc.. I think disagreeing with this on a purely rational basis requires you to be a midwit at best and on a moral basis a moral midwit. The irony is you think incel is a potent disarm but are almost definitely an extremely beta guy who hasn't kissed a woman in years and only calls me an incel so that you might get the chance. Women don't like this. In no world will you virtue signal into their pants. They want you as the friend who they know wants them and gives them an ego boost and like to pretend to themselves they are not leading on. You aren't being sensitive, you are just being pathetic. I don't hate the sinner I hate the sin. To love someone you don't have to support every life choice they make. I would argue really loving them is being honest about the wrong ones

[Anonymous No.18058253]

What I don't understand is why 4chan all the sudden doesn't like trannies.

Too many election tourists.

We made Bailey Jay's career.

[Anonymous No.18058257]

>>18058216
You can have 'em, there's not a lot of competition, they don't even want to fuck each other.

[Anonymous No.18058267]

>>18058257
Yes we do

[Anonymous No.18058279]

>>18058194
Trans people take note. This is the closest thing to a straight man that will ever touch you. I'm not kidding and on a level you already know it. A fetishizing, deep in the porn rabbithole degen who is so given to their sexual obsession that they wouldn't mind you, a human being, by their own account, being irreversibly castrated so that they can reward their fetish by you. You are not a subject to them, you are an object.

[Anonymous No.18058282]

>>18058267
Good, stop bothering normal people then

[Anonymous No.18058285]

>>18058267
No, you really don't. You might. The overwhelming majority is alienated when brought face to face with their own reality in a way that can't be as easily disregarded by their own ego

[Anonymous No.18058292]

>>18058282
I'm not bothering anyone

[Anonymous No.18058297]

>>18058227
>hypothesis: gender and sex are different, gender is socially constructedand can be alrered
>test: raising a male as a girl without telling him he was born a boy, if the hypothesis is true he'll never reject his identity
>result: he almost immediately realises he's a freak and "transitions" back to being a male without even knowing that's what he was to begin with
>conclusion: gender is not real, sex is what determines your behaviour
What aren't you following?

[Anonymous No.18058301]

>>18058292
Yes you are, you're here arguing about your mental illness

[Anonymous No.18058308]

>>18058297
You're the one who isn't following kiddo

[Anonymous No.18058311]

>>18058267
No, you don't. You wouldn't have to make up incel tier copes like the "cotton ceiling" to bully people into sleeping with you, otherwise.

[Anonymous No.18058312]

>>18057726
Sorcerers are transsexual.

[Anonymous No.18058314]

>>18058301
>submit or you're nothing me
No. That's not how it works. You came here to bother me faggot

[Anonymous No.18058315]

>>18058308
Idiot tranny.

[Anonymous No.18058323]

>>18058315
Explain my argument then

[Anonymous No.18058324]

>>18058297
You forgot the part in result where the test subject kills himself.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Reimer
This whole gender spiel is an invented and tested and disastrously failed academic legacy.

[Anonymous No.18058331]

https://youtu.be/I8BRdwgPChQ

[Anonymous No.18058347]

>>18058314
You said you weren't bothering anyone but here you are bothering me, a normal person, by arguing for me to accomodate your delusions. So you're either lying or mentally ill, but probably both.

[Anonymous No.18058350]

>>18058323
https://youtu.be/SUPHqTkL5Nw

[Anonymous No.18058365]

>>18058350
So you're admitting you're incapable of doing so? Great thanks.

[Anonymous No.18058369]

>>18058297
>>18058324
It's pretty shocking this patent bullshit got so far before finally getting some academic pushback, only because it started hurting women too, but whatever, I'll take it.

[Anonymous No.18058426]

>>18058365
I think you're replying to the wrong person. I'm not the person you were talking to, I was just linking the video. Your argument seems to be men who think they're women are socially failed anime addicts whose closest basis of comparison of a woman is a cartoon character which they emulate (and usually use as a profile picture knowing they look nothing like a woman) and in behavior distinguish themselves starkly from real women by so doing which portrays their non-nucleic nature of their perceived "woman"hood and therefore are not real women? Is that right?
See
>>18058000

[Anonymous No.18058437]

>>18058369
I fucking love the new paradigm of women vs. trans with sports as seed for realization. It is honestly beautiful to see cancer culture being excised by real women.

[Anonymous No.18058519]

>>18057726
Are you looking for non-fiction or fiction? There's plenty of great books of both, but I can't give good recs unless I know if you want to read about the topic of transsexualism itself or want good fictional stories that deal with transsexualism as a thematic/story concept.

[Anonymous No.18058589]

>>18058253
Because trannies used to know their place. Normal people, as well as 4chan, are reacting to this insanity, because it's no longer some tranny cam horing, but a coup against women and children sponsored by the perverts at Silicon Valley.

[Anonymous No.18058601]

test

[Anonymous No.18058604]

>>18057775
Bold of you to think they can mange to live that long

[Anonymous No.18058719]

>>18058589
THIS

[Anonymous No.18058734]

>>18058601
is something trannies lack

[Anonymous No.18058736]

>>18058734
kek

[Anonymous No.18058743]

>>18058253
>why does everyone have a problem with pedophile sex predators mind raping children and turning them into homunculi using cancer drugs to shut off their endocrine system?

[Anonymous No.18058772]

>>18057775
>implying they'll make it that far in life

[Anonymous No.18059244]

>>18057726
Myra Breckenridge, Gore Vidal

[Anonymous No.18059274]

>>18057775
Who cares? I'll toss him for the next femboy when he hits 19

[Anonymous No.18059277]

>>18057775
What are you going to do at 45? She will probably be married and raising kids by then.

>>18058604
>>18058772
Only trangenders with chud parents and friends end up getting depressed. In an encouraging environment they are less depressed on average than the average white man

[Anonymous No.18059304]

>>18059277
Yeah no chuds who think they can switch genders just by getting their cocks surgically pushed inside out so that instead of having a working penis they have a hole that grows hair and puss aren't going to be happy or productive.

[Anonymous No.18059345]

>>18059277
>Implying that anything can be more depressing than looking at your manly face, figure and that gaping wound you call a vagina
God you are a retard

[Anonymous No.18059360]

>>18058167
if your thought can be reducible to these memes, you do not think at all

[Anonymous No.18059368]

>>18058046
Well what else am I gonna store on my 180 petabytes of storage

[Anonymous No.18059373]

>>18059277
Since there's many times more white men than trannies, shouldn't we focus on fixing the depressed white men first? Seems like the more urgent issue.

[Anonymous No.18059382]

>>18058187
Shut up faggot, end your trans!!!!

[Anonymous No.18059389]

>>18057726
Gonna need sauce

[Anonymous No.18059398]

Not going to read all the serious posting and debating ITT but divorced from politics, culture and psychology does anyone else think guys wearing women’s clothes and cutting their dicks off is hilarious? When I take a step back and strip away all the discourse and context about it I think it’s so fucking funny. I literally am in tears laughing at the concept of a guy wearing a dress and make up and calling himself a woman. Not even in a cruel way. It’s just really funny.

People in the 1990s and mid 2000s would have agreed with me.

[Anonymous No.18059399]

>>18059360
Brevity is the soul of wit. Either way, I never said they fully encapsulated my thinking on it, just a few ideas given representation. This seems evident from the literal paragraphs extra I've written. If your thoughts can be represented by what you just wrote, you are an ideological brainlet.

[Anonymous No.18059424]

>>18059277
Not true as evidenced by cross-cultural study specifically rates in Sweden etc. Sometimes reality is inconvenient to your baseless ideologically rooted conjecturing.

[Anonymous No.18059432]

>>18058242
you just wrote a paragraph of utter bullshit. there's nothing rational about insisting that no trannies at all possibly pass, given that humans are a species with relatively small sexual dimorphism. you claim that acceptance has no relevant significance, but i have never seen a study which suggests this. trannies are mentally ill, sure, but what you are doing is obsessive and unhealthy
>>18058285
>No, you really don't. You might
you just contradicted yourself
idk ive seen plenty of transbians, including ones that exclusively date other trannies
>>18058311
stop getting your beliefs from memes dude. being able to cherrypick retarded insane zoomers on twitter doesn't mean anything because everyone on that site is insane
>>18058347
you aren't a normal person. you are probably a repressing tranny, which is why you are so obsessed with this stuff. you think you are being funny now, but it is really just sad dude

[Anonymous No.18059463]

>>18059432
>you aren't a normal person. you are probably a repressing tranny, which is why you are so obsessed with this stuff. you think you are being funny now, but it is really just sad dude
Nope, your projection is way off. I'm just a normal straight guy. I am funny though, I'll admit. The sad thing is indulging in delusions of mentally ill people instead of actually helping them. I'm not obsessed but just tired of dealing with this delusion everywhere. Can't all trannies just move to an island and live happily ever after?

[Anonymous No.18059486]

>>18059432
No I didn't contradict myself. Is the existence of one tranny who doesn't like trannies proof of irreconcilable paradox or are you playing a meaningless language game disingenuously giving the existential quantifier power over the larger body? Does one person drinking gasoline mean people as a general trend do? And frankly all you have done is gush inconsequntially and backpedaled without substantively addressing anything I said when called on being a brainlet. I didn't get my beliefs from memes, but aside for agreeing that trannies are mentally ill (notice once more, reality allows for exception which does not depict larger trends), I would bet almost anything that the overwhelming majority of your beliefs ARE memes and you are a loud and proud reddit-loving fag who unidimensionally defines yourself as being smart but are actually maybe like one standard deviation above the norm tops

[Anonymous No.18059560]

>>18059432
Here you go:
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/21364939/
Even in countries with gender neutral pronouns which are extremely acceptant of it, the transgender suicide rate is comparable only with psychotic individuals and those with mood neuroses.

[Anonymous No.18059561]

>>18058589
>>18058743
>coup against women and children
fuck off, no one here genuinely cares about either, lol. you faggots will actually support genital inspection exams of children if it will filter out trannies
>>18059424
the controls weren't even dysphorics, and the treatment groups were trannies who partook in SRS, which doesn't say anything about social integration. there is no demonstration of lack of efficacy here either. but sure, whatever, i don't expect a zoomer to understand how to read articles
>>18059399
the paragraphs you wrote are just the same memes but longer. have you thought about doing research outside of reddit and /pol/?
>>18059486
>Is the existence of one tranny who doesn't like trannies proof of irreconcilable paradox or are you playing a meaningless language game disingenuously giving the existential quantifier power over the larger body?
why are you arbitrarily pretending that all trannies who date trannies are somehow just outliers? it isn't just the one tranny who posted in this thread? again, at least try hanging around transbians or whatever the fuck instead of getting your opinions off of meme tweets some coper extracted through hours of browsing twitter
>>18059463
>The sad thing is indulging in delusions of mentally ill people instead of actually helping them
spamming shitty memes doesn't help anyone. you aren't attempting to have any genuine dialogue about the topic. you leak of disingenuousness
>Can't all trannies just move to an island and live happily ever after?
like here, what happened to helping mentally ill people? you are a gas lighter

[Anonymous No.18059568]

>>18057726
She cute

[Anonymous No.18059573]

>>18059304
Do you honestly think the average chud on /pol/ is happy? And look up what gender means

[Anonymous No.18059575]

>>18059560
this is not even cross-cultural

[Anonymous No.18059625]

The fact is, /lit/, that there is no such thing as a transgender anything.

There are men and there are women.
It doesn’t matter what clothes you put on or your how many surgeries you have done.

You can take all the synthetic hormones you want. You can shave your legs, you can shave your face, you can cake on makeup and look like a clown, you can have Dr. Goldenstein shred your penis and carve a hole out of your pelvis with an ice cream scoop, it doesn’t matter.

You will never be a woman.

No matter how many children you recruit to join you, no matter your numbers, no matter how many online communities you take over, no matter how many users you censor and ban, no matter how much time you spend creating the perfect propaganda pieces,

You will never be a woman.

You will never be able to conceal the large pores on your face that create a beard shadow.
You will never be able to shrink your hands, alter your hip to waist ratio, or conceal your male shoulders.

You will never be a woman.

There is no such thing as a “trans woman” or a “cis woman.” There is only one type of woman, and that is the biological type.
You will never be able to bear a child, you will never know what it’s like to be loved. You will never know what it’s like to be sexually desired as a person, only as a fetish object for a small number of men to pass around who don’t see you as human.

You will never, ever be a woman.

[Anonymous No.18059634]

>>18059463
>Can't all trannies just move to an island and live happily ever after?
No, because then there would be no one around to validate them and they would

[Anonymous No.18059635]

>>18059368
lol lok at dog

[Anonymous No.18059640]

>>18059561
>you faggots will actually support genital inspection exams of children if it will filter out trannies
I support anything that will help protect children from pedo rapist circus freaks

[Anonymous No.18059650]

>>18059573
Think your replied to the wrong person nothing you said has anything to do with what I said. Next time please try to click on the correct post number newfriend :^)

[Anonymous No.18059657]

>>18059398
>People in the 1990s and mid 2000s would have agreed with me.
5 years ago it was still a joke. 10 years ago people advocating for giving children puberty blockers would have been lynched

[Anonymous No.18059677]

>>18059640
yeah, great job dude. now pedophiles can legall molest/sexually harass our children if they look slightly masculine as a girl or feminine as a boy, but at least 13 year old pedo rapist circus freaks wont outcompete our girls in sports! good job protecting them

[Anonymous No.18059687]

>>18059677
Yes, your recruitment proxies must be uncovered and banned from participating in sports

[Anonymous No.18059696]

>>18059575
I didn't say it was. Cross cultural analysis doesn't mean that you consider both in the same study. If one study is done in US and another is done in Sweden and you compare the two, that is methodologically sound crosscultural study. The rates in Sweden are still well above typical rates and in the realm of mental illness. Cope.
For many, many more confirming studies from all around, check:
https://people.ucalgary.ca/~ramsay/transgender-transsexual-suicide-studies-world.htm

[Anonymous No.18059698]

>>18059277
>She will probably be married and raising kids
I don't think you understand how biology works.

[Anonymous No.18059701]

>>18059687
now you are making shit up. well anyways, it was nice talking to you

[Anonymous No.18059712]

>>18059575
Suicide rates well above blacks in slavery or Jim Crowe. Are transgendered people today more socially ostracized than blacks under slavery?

[Anonymous No.18059714]

>>18059712
No but they should be

[Anonymous No.18059722]

>>18059712
Whats the Shapiro example?
>Higher than jews under nazi germany

[Anonymous No.18059725]

>>18059701
Why would I need to make anything up?
The tranny cult has been recruiting children through schools for a while

[Anonymous No.18059726]

>>18059561
as someone else said previously, your replies have no substance and are mostly just conclusions. to my mind you are easily the most disingenuous person in this thread evidenced mostly by your baselessly imputing thoughts and actions onto others who disagree with you

[Anonymous No.18059728]

>>18059575
Only comparable to mentally ill.

[Anonymous No.18059741]

>>18059568
Yes she is fren, yes she is.

[Anonymous No.18059745]

>>18059575

[Anonymous No.18059747]

>>18059561
>>>18059463
>>The sad thing is indulging in delusions of mentally ill people instead of actually helping them
>spamming shitty memes doesn't help anyone. you aren't attempting to have any genuine dialogue about the topic. you leak of disingenuousness
>>Can't all trannies just move to an island and live happily ever after?
>like here, what happened to helping mentally ill people? you are a gas lighter

i don't think he was talking about himself wanting to genuinely help trannies. he's referring to the enablers.

[Anonymous No.18059758]

>>18058324
how big of a retard can you be. the guy never showed symptoms of gender dysphoria and by all accounts felt a man, the only reason the reassignment surgery was allowed was due to the perception that gender is entirely socially constructed, which is obviously false and noone in the scientific community believes that anymore

[Anonymous No.18059759]

>>18059728
And gays of course which are a lesser version/almost definite precursor of it in a substantial amount of cases.
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/11501300/

[Anonymous No.18059760]

>>18059625
Trannies are women

[Anonymous No.18059768]

>>18059561
>you are a gas lighter
no the gaslighters are the trannies my dear boy. they lie to themselves and everybody else about what they are.

[Anonymous No.18059771]

>>18059722
This. Instantly makes the counterargument permacope apparent as being as laughable as it in reality is.

[Anonymous No.18059778]

>>18059760
Agreed but only if they identify as trans-men.

[Anonymous No.18059783]

[Anonymous No.18059789]

>>18059758
He was raised as a woman to prove that gender is a social construct. The results ended as poorly as possible. I wrote this specifically responding to
>>18058297
How is it not fitting? Interested to see your response to the rest of my posts which portray transgenders as committing suicide at rates only comparable to psychotic and otherwise mentally ill people.

[Anonymous No.18059830]

>>18059561
Again, insubstantial general talk that doesn't touch a single of my points but somehow feels qualified to deride it as /pol/ flavored and therefore without merit. The projection is unbelievable. I have provided a link to tens of studies that correspond to similar findings. You don't need a control group when you're comparing it to the general public, which numbers are well documented and readily available and dozens of other studies in which trannies didn't transition, retard.
I also provided a link where the author who put out the key study wrote a correction finding they found no difference in suicide rates of those who underwent surgery vs. those who do not.
>>18058119
You can dislike the dailywire but it is a fidelitous treatment of the study.

[Anonymous No.18059850]

>>18059568

[Anonymous No.18059862]

>>18059789
Hello I'm>>18058227
Your conclusion is incorrect because you equate sex with gender. The imposition of gender upon that child is what caused their tramua, and what you want to do is cause that same trauma on trans people by imposing it on them. You're being actively dishonest by pretending that someone choosing to have a sex change is in anyway similar to someone having it thrust upon them.

[Anonymous No.18059870]

>>18059850
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[Anonymous No.18059874]

>>18059850
White transgender women like the one in the OP are sheltered and shy and aren't getting their ass rammed in a 7/11 gloryhole

[Anonymous No.18059887]

>>18059850
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[Anonymous No.18059898]

>>18059850
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[Anonymous No.18059919]

>>18059850
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[Anonymous No.18059928]

>>18059850
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[Anonymous No.18060008]

>>18059862
What a completely novel perspective I have never considered which isn't exactly a complete cookie cutter statement of ideological sound. I'm not even presenting this as the defacto proof against transgenderism. I was presenting it as de facto relevant to the concept that gender is a purely socially constructed concept, which it specifically tested. Let the suicide rate, high comorbidity of other mental illness, recidivism rate (vast majority of kids experiencing it) and huge overlap with child sexual abuse (again, anyone who has studied psych at university knowing the most common responses to this in boys are rough overcompensation and hyperfeminization and hypersexuality). Honestly if you can't see what point I was making in context, it speaks to how you can't/don't have the self-awareness to see what identity YOU have in context.

[Anonymous No.18060044]

>>18060008
absolutely astounding, all I did was repeat the point I made which you initially responded to and now you're retreating to suicide rates and sexual abuse to obfuscate the fact that I'd demolished you before you even replied.

[Anonymous No.18060060]

>>18059874
I know some physicians in Turkey who claim to get ~70% success with Pimozide (which studies have NOT been done well for obvious social implication driven reasons). It is almost definitely a mixed bag of people sexually abused as children, mostly psychotics, and autists with low EQ/undeveloped kids seeking community/explanation for alienation/validation of identity (substantially more this demographic (and to a lesser extent, still contributing to growth in the other two) the more society rewards it, (unless they cluster/flourish beyond belief in non-conformist social nodes which draw these types like a magnet)). It is also probable some have parasites or collapse under the weight of related precursor paraphilias which abstract beyond control/maintenance of actual-self-awareness (many without going down weird porn rabbit holes may likely have never considered this (see: people who can only get off by balloons popping (with added element of self-identification with the fetish (i.e. "who" they are))). There also seems to be a contingent described by
>>18058426
the anime feature is pronounced within it as culture but non-essential. Basically just socially failed boys who are too nervous or insecure to approach girls at a young age and warp to cope/often times fetishize the archetypal ideal of the strong man they wish they were able to have the confidence to be

[Anonymous No.18060075]

>>18060044
No, again, your [lack of] awareness is betraying itself. I addressed your point, pointed out you were challenging me on a basis I wasn't asserting and then gave some of what I would use to assert it if I were. I explicitly said this. Hopefully you will understand now but if you don't I really don't know how much more simply I can state it for you.

[Anonymous No.18060102]

>>18060075
You didn't. You haven't. You can't. Otherwise you wouldn't have disappeared when I asked you to explain what you think my argument is.

[Anonymous No.18060114]

>>18060102
I didn't disappear and that wasn't even me you asked. Nevertheless I responded when you misinterpreted me as that person.
See:
>>18058426

[Anonymous No.18060123]

>>18060114
Stop wasting my time. Either summarize my argument so we can be on the same page or go away

[Anonymous No.18060125]

>>18060102
YWNBAW

[Anonymous No.18060135]

>>18060123
Retard. I did.
See:
>>18058426

[Anonymous No.18060149]

>>18060135
You can't be serious

[Anonymous No.18060154]

>>18060149
Couldn't possibly be more.

[Anonymous No.18060173]

>>18060149
>>18060123
>>18060102
Seething soggy tranoid

[Anonymous No.18060178]

>>18060154
I'm arguing about>>18057965 so you've not addressed anything nor even attempted to. very sad. you're actually retarded.

[Anonymous No.18060182]

>>18060149
Is this at least recognition that I did respond to you (to no response from you), that I pointed it out by linking it to you (with no recognition by you despite responding to the post in which I did so and explicitly stated I was doing so) and then, finally, after responding to that by pointing out where I linked the original response (which you responded to without awareness of) you became aware of it? Do you realize how validating this is to my whole philosophy of your general state of self-awareness/how you judge opinions/data in general, and how uncritical it makes you look?

[Anonymous No.18060188]

>>18060178
Bro. I already addressed this and then addressed that I had addressed it and what way in which I was doing so. I don't know what comes next.

[Anonymous No.18060243]

>>18060188
Lol okay you just keep evading then

[Anonymous No.18060265]

>>18058096

This book is actually really good, by the way. The description of the author's own suicide attempt is a hell of a way to finish a story.