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18076451 No.18076451 [Reply] [Original]

Who was in the wrong here?

>> No.18076463

>>18076451
Natsume Soseki, for writing the book.

>> No.18076479

>>18076451
op, for reading it

>> No.18076482

>>18076463
Honestly though, I haven't felt like my life was slipping through my fingers like this since I read stoner. Somehow every character in this book left me feeling helpless and incapable of resolving my own self-doubts and shortcomings. Why would he write this book?

>> No.18077496

>>18076451
>>18076482

I don't even remember what the book is about!
Only vaguely remember the senpai stuff.

>> No.18077593
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18077593

My takeaway from the book is that there were many who were in the wrong, but it was the norms of the culture and era they were living in which led to the specific outcome, although senpai blames himself rather than looking at things holistically (perhaps because his actions are the only thing he can feasibly control). That's why, later in life, senpai eventually decided the best course was inaction, and when the emperor died it signified the end of such an era and he didn't know how to cope in a new and changing world. Great book.

>> No.18077602

Japan

>> No.18079162

>>18076451
Sensei for cucking his friend to death.

>> No.18079239

>>18076482
>Why would he write this book?
He’s telling you his thoughts directly in the book in several places.

> loneliness is the price we pay for living in the modern world

>> No.18079258

>>18077593
I have to disagree a little bit. Yes, the death of the general signaled the end of one era and the beginning of another, but it wasn’t exactly sensei’s inability to cope with a new world that caused his suicide. It was simply the nail in the coffin for a man who lived his life feeling a profound sense of alienation and detachment from the society around him. The world hadn’t really changed at that point, at least not for Sensei because it was a constant trend. It had just reached its most alienating point.

>> No.18079283

>>18076451
Sensei. He shouldn't have invited K to stay with him.