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>> No.18158878

ANOTHER fucking Schopenhauer thread.

>> No.18158879

>>18158878
kek seething

>> No.18158881

Sanctimonious incel who projected his own failures on others

>> No.18158883

>>18158878
>>18158881
OOOOOOOOOO the amount of salt, kek.

>> No.18158885

>>18158871
Nationalism is for cucks. There are American niggers how am I supposed to be proud of being American? Pride in your race is the Chad stance.

>> No.18158887

>>18158871
Not all nationalism is about pride of what's already been achieved but about putting your nation first and foremost so it actually achieves something in the future.

>> No.18158889

>>18158871
He should have sex and check this get

>> No.18158891

>>18158885
>Pride in your race is the Chad stance.
Miserable fucking fool

>> No.18158895

>>18158885
>Pride in your race is the Chad stance.
Sounds peak incel.

>> No.18158898

>>18158891
>>18158895
Seething shit skins

>> No.18158900

>>18158871
This is based actually. Schopy was a eugenicist monarchist elitist with no patience for petty nationalism.

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>>18158895
Incels don't have a pride in their race because the women of their race won't fuck them and instead go for chads of their race.
It makes sense that the guy who came up with the racial "melting point" idea looked like picrel

>> No.18158906

>cheapest sort of pride
There is so much nuance that gets lost compared to
>Die wohlfeilste Art des Stolzes

>> No.18158907

>>18158900
He was also Hitler's favorite philosopher.

>> No.18158909

Having Nationalistic tendencies is a genetic temperamental trait.

>> No.18158910

>>18158898
He preferred shit skin over cum skin

>Blonde people fancy either absolutely dark complexions or brown; but it is rarely the case vice versâ. The reason for it is this: that fair hair and blue eyes are a deviation from the type and almost constitute an abnormity, analogous to white mice, or at any rate white horses. They are not indigenous to any other part of the world but Europe,—not even to the polar regions,—and are obviously of Scandinavian origin. En passant, it is my conviction that a white skin is not natural to man, and that by nature he has either a black or brown skin like our forefathers, the Hindoos, and that the white man was never originally created by nature; and that, therefore, there is no race of white people, much as it is talked about, but every white man is a bleached one. Driven up into the north, where he was a stranger, and where he existed only like an exotic plant, in need of a hothouse in winter, man in the course of centuries became white. The gipsies, an Indian tribe which emigrated only about four centuries ago, show the transition of the Hindoo’s complexion to ours. In love, therefore, nature strives to return to dark hair and brown eyes, because they are the original type; still, a white skin has become second nature, although not to such an extent as to make the dark skin of the Hindoo repellent to us.

>> No.18158911
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18158911

>>18158898
t. mutt

>> No.18158918

>>18158900
>monarchist
Bullshite, he neither wanted to change the existing system nor he wanted to defend it. Politics was petty showshow to him.

>> No.18158927

>>18158900
>eugenicist
This is also retarded bullshite. He was an antinatalist.

>> No.18158932

Not one bookstore in my city has a single Schop book. Why is he banned?

>> No.18158939

>>18158910
Blond hair and blue eyes are feminine traits in a man. The Greeks considered dark (tanned) skin to be masculine because men were out there under the sun working and getting food for their family while they considered pale skin to be feminine because women were inside the house all day taking care of the kitchen and offspring. This can be found in their art. A similar feeling was echoed by Mishima in Sun and Steel.

>> No.18158946

>>18158932
Cities are filled with optimistic humanists. Of course they are biased against anti-pc Schopenhauer.
Just order it online. Or print his essays by yourself.

>> No.18158952

>>18158939
Interesting

>> No.18158965

>>18158946
But I'm not ready yet, I haven't read any Kant. I don't think I'm going to either. I'm going to skip Kant and just read schop. It'll buff.

>> No.18158977

>>18158889
>He should have sex
He did, then he paid alimony for the rest of his life due to pushing the broad down a flight of stairs

>> No.18158995

>>18158939
Mishima was a 5 4 faggot.

>> No.18159021

>>18158965
Then start with his essays.

>> No.18159024

>>18158995
And yet more based than most tallfags.

>> No.18159031

>>18158907
based

>> No.18159119

>Don't be a nationalist
>Your neighbor is
>Get slaughtered

>> No.18159132

>>18159119
He was a life denying antinatalist so that would be pretty much his dream scenario

>> No.18159143
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18159143

>>18158889
>Trips
This quote ignores the importance of culture on an individuals development. There's a reason Africa hasn't produced an Isaac Newton and it isn't genetic.

>> No.18159154

>>18159132
I still haven't got on him, but from my experience most antinatalists don't want to expand suffering, thats why they advocate for simply dont giving more births, its a way for us to die in a generations without suffering. They don't even kill themselves because of this (and that they are pussies). So a military conquest seems like it would be counter productive.

>> No.18159160

>>18158885
incomprehensibly based desu, i feel the same way for basically the same reason

>> No.18159162

>>18159119
>>18159132
He use to sleep with loaded pistols because he thought that men were viscous animals and state of world was extremely fragile.

>> No.18159165

>>18159143
Very good point, but its also genetic. A combination of factors. You could also argue why didn't they create a good civilization in the first place. Somewhere down the line we will have to acknowledge it.

>> No.18159166

>>18158885
The English brought nigs

>> No.18159188

>>18159165
IMO it's both. Based on mutation and recombination, high iq Africans are born. They just aren't selected for so in the long run you get the current situation.

>> No.18159195

>>18159165
Egypt was a good civ

>> No.18159196

>>18158871
So much seething cucks in this thread
>>18158939
Lmao what a cope, blonde hair and blue eyes evolved through the harshest conditions over the longest time.
>>18159166
*jews

>> No.18159208

>>18159165
Nigerians perform quite well in foreign universities and are the highest earning group in the US, I believe.

>> No.18159209

>>18159195
You know we meant sub-saharian Africa, but fair enough.

>> No.18159218

>>18159196
>*jews
No difference. The Anglos are philosemitic. Example: Churchill.

>> No.18159219

>>18159208
>highest earning group in the US
That's the same logical fallacy they use with the Chinese. There's a very small population of Nigerians who come from the upper class .

>> No.18159225

>>18159218
You've never heard of Mosley apparently.
And Churchill was hardly philosemitic lmao, he was just an opportunistic grifter.
You forget that jews have had control of England since the 11th century.

>> No.18159229

>>18159219
All I'm saying is things arent black and white. Oversimplification is niggerlike.

>> No.18159240

>>18159229
But no was oversimplfying. I started the discussion by saying it was a combination of factors. Besides to what comes to averages, yes its night and day.

>> No.18159243

>>18159229
Overcomplicating things isn't much better.

>> No.18159245

>>18159240
no one*

>> No.18159247

>>18159143
>>18159165
>>18159188
>>18159195
>>18159209
Don't know bros I saw a documentary by two British guys who went on tour across Sahara back in 59. Man their small traditional communities were really comfy.

>https://youtu.be/PtG6niRiRXk

>> No.18159251

>>18159243
No one is overcomplicating things.

>> No.18159256

>>18159247
B-but /pol/ told me...

>> No.18159262

>>18159247
But we are talking about sub-sahara.

>> No.18159270

>>18158885
based; even better when you are living in a country where the race IS the state; then pride in your race IS nationalism and vice versa.

>> No.18159274

>>18159262
You said Africa

>> No.18159285

>>18159196
>Lmao what a cope, blonde hair and blue eyes evolved through the harshest conditions over the longest time
Yet they are BTFO in combination with stronger non-degenerate genes. Weak DNA.

>> No.18159291

>>18159270
ISrael?

>> No.18159298

>>18159256
>Dude all the problems in Africa are due to WHITE PEOPLE
I'm sure Africa isn't that bad , but the left shoves this argument down peoples throats 24/7

>> No.18159303

>>18159285
It's the other way round, faggot. It means it's pure genes. Degenerate genes are the ones that spoil the good ones. There's a reason the mixed people all look like goblins.

>> No.18159305

>>18159298
>Straw man

>> No.18159312

>>18159305
I'm not arguing

>> No.18159333

>>18159312
And I'm not talking about anything you said.

>> No.18159338

>>18159298
Not him
But I agree. I am from an ex-colonial country. And whenever people talk le evil western man. I just tell them that "we" are "free" for 70 years, what the fuck "our own kind" has done for us? And they all go speechless. The country is still a shithole.

>> No.18159351

>>18159291
Israel isn't ethnically homogeneous (thank god), but if they were, then yeah.

>> No.18159352

>>18159143
Not trips retard

>> No.18159363

>>18159352
>888
>not trips
?

>> No.18159368

>>18159229
>Oversimplification is niggerlike.
Don't oversimplify his point by calling it black and white thinking then.

>> No.18159435

>>18159303
>It means it's pure genes. Degenerate genes are the ones that spoil the good ones.
No, the degenerate ones are those that are the newest mutation, like blue eyes.
>muh purity
It's all about strongest and weakest genes. Blond hair and blue eyes are weak genes. Submision is feminine, dominion is masculine, therefore, blueyes and blond hair are feminine traits.
> There's a reason the mixed people all look like goblins.
All of Europe is mixed and most have brown hair and eyes. See: >>18158911

>> No.18159442

>>18159368
Making a reference to an oversimplification is not oversimplification.

>> No.18159500

>>18158885
>>18159160
Schopenhauer comes from a way less globalized time where nation and race where pretty much the same, so you faggots are falling into the same kind of thing he's describing there by being complacently proud of something you didn't achieve.

>> No.18159570

>>18158906
how so? seems like a pretty direct translation to me. German is a fucking caveman language.

>> No.18160015

>>18158871
>have pride in your nation
>recognize your nation has flaws
>can’t be proud of it

Yes you can?
I’m starting the think philosophy is a fucking joke.

>> No.18160023

>>18158871
based

>> No.18160031

>>18159442
I don't know, it seems like you oversimplified his point by responding to "it's also genetic, it's a combination of factors" with "things aren't black and white."

>> No.18160078

>>18159225
Edward Longshanks kicked them out at that time you dumbass

>> No.18160126
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18160126

>>18159435

>> No.18160136

>>18160126
Not an argument

>> No.18160141

>>18160136
Neither is weak bait

>> No.18160147

>>18158907
I doubt that, hitler was very much a brainlet & probably read him only for propaganda

>> No.18160151

>>18160141
>the evident truth is bait
Sorry you think that way.

>> No.18160154

>>18160141
Many people on the internet think that simply responding means they are winning the argument lol

>> No.18160158

>>18160147
>In the Great Hall of the Linz Library are the busts of Kant, Schopenhauer and Nietzsche, the greatest of our thinkers, in comparison with whom the British, the French and the Americans have nothing to offer. His complete refutation of the teachings which were a heritage from the Middle Ages, and of the dogmatic philosophy of the Church, is the greatest of the services which Kant has rendered to us. It is on the foundation of Kant's theory of knowledge that Schopenhauer built the edifice of his philosophy, and it is Schopenhauer who annihilated the pragmatism of Hegel. I carried Schopenhauer's works with me throughout the whole of the first World War.

>> No.18160163

>>18160147
Nah he carried a copy of The World as Will and Representation with him in the trenches of WW1

>> No.18160167

>>18160151
>weak bait is bait
Yes.

>> No.18160168

>>18160154
t. feminine man

>> No.18160174

>>18160167
>all this whine just because he has weak feminine genes
Come on now

>> No.18160177

>>18159500
>>18160147
his philosophy looked at men as though they were all part of one living organism, it not doubt had influence later uniting racial theories. As for whether or not schop partake in them, I would think not as he was a borderline misanthrope and had a distaste for much of life itself.

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18160176

>>18160168

>> No.18160188

>>18160174
Don't you have anything better to do schlomo?

>> No.18160194

>>18160158
>>18160163
He shitted on Schopenhauer's ethics.
Saying that he loved philosopher [x] means shite.

>> No.18160206

>>18160176
Looks like your average European guy.
>>18160188
>muh Jews
You fell for le /pol/ meme quite deeply, haven't you?

>> No.18160211

>>18160194
Hitler was a retard so of course he tried to bring down people who were better and smarter than him. This is not a surprise.

>> No.18160214

>>18160206
What do you get out of this?

>> No.18160216

This thread is full of mutt cope. Nationalism is based because it lets one interact with the national consciousness. Races with better genes can form a superior national consciousness (Europeans, Aryans, Altaics) and their civilizations and creations are obviously superior to inferior races like sub-saharan africans or abbos. Anyone who can't see this fact is a fucking golem retard