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Anonymous Thu May 13 21:04:47 2021 No.18237489 [Reply] [Original]

What can you tell me about this book? Is it outdated? Is it an illuminated book? Is reading it going to turn me back? Is reading it going to make me a disgusting macho? Is it worth reading?

>>	Anonymous Thu May 13 23:12:15 2021 No.18238170 >>18237489 Yes, it's worth reading. It's an interesting book but it didn't change me at all. I still love women.

>>	Anonymous Thu May 13 23:15:04 2021 No.18238187 >>18237489 Yes, it's worth reading. It's an interesting book but it didn't change me at all. I've always hated women.

>>	Anonymous Thu May 13 23:36:57 2021 No.18238294 “Illuminated” “turn me back” I’m not sure, but what is your first language

>>	Anonymous Thu May 13 23:39:02 2021 No.18238304 >>18237489 its really funny but very stupid, there's no foundation or basis to anything he says, and i read it explicitly to hone my misogynistic arguments

Anonymous Thu May 13 23:41:09 2021 No.18238319

It’s ok. It’s more compelling than actually convincing. Wittgenstein said if you put a “~” (meaning “not”) in front of it, it would express a truth. If you are easily convinced or influenced by books, wait to come back to it until after reading more serious stuff.

>>	Anonymous Thu May 13 23:44:28 2021 No.18238332 >>18237489 It’s a meme book from a seething incel. Got ridiculed so hard that he unironically killed himself. Only read it as a comedy.

>>	Anonymous Thu May 13 23:51:24 2021 No.18238362 >>18238319 hahaha source?

>>	Anonymous Thu May 13 23:54:31 2021 No.18238373 >>18238362 Ray Monk, The Duty Of Genius

>>	Anonymous Fri May 14 06:10:49 2021 No.18239661 >>18237489 Some of its appeals to science are outdated but the philosophical part is definitely interesting.

Anonymous Fri May 14 06:13:44 2021 No.18239674

>>18237489
It's not outdated, it is illuminated (although not 100% objective in certain places), it won't make you a macho (no mere book will), it is worth reading.

Anyone who tells you it is outright wrong or anything else is just coping. Weiniger was right about every important point in the book, and no one has actually refuted him on these.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 14 06:16:11 2021 No.18239686 >>18238319 >wait to come back to it until after reading more serious stuff. Yeah, like Aristotle.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 14 06:56:04 2021 No.18239817 It's childish.

Anonymous Fri May 14 06:57:05 2021 No.18239822

>>18237489
I wonder why some people always ask these questions before reading, just start, you can always drop it if it's boring. Almost any book, even if it sucks, worth reading more than some meme opinions from the Internet.

Anyway, the first 1/3 is literally explaining how gender is a spectrum, and then he describes some cultural archetypes. You may not agree with everything, but it's definitely worth exploring how did people reason at the beginning of 20th century.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 14 07:00:18 2021 No.18239831 >>18238319 no, the wave means "approximately"

>>	Anonymous Fri May 14 07:30:05 2021 No.18239931 >>18239817 How?

>>	Anonymous Fri May 14 09:08:14 2021 No.18240350 >>18239931 Reeks of adolescent rage towards women. I don't need a 17 year homosexual incel teaching me about women. Weininger also was a Kantian and for that reason I'm out.

Anonymous Fri May 14 09:22:31 2021 No.18240405

>>18240350
>Reeks of adolescent rage towards women.
There's no rage in there, did you even read the book?
> don't need a 17 year homosexual incel teaching me about women.
Wow ur so edgy
>Weininger also was a Kantian and for that reason I'm out.
I'd say fair enough but he applies it decently actually, I'm not a Kantian at all but I had no issue with his Kantian takes.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 14 09:22:52 2021 No.18240407 >>18237489 book for incels

>>	Anonymous Fri May 14 09:25:00 2021 No.18240412 >>18237489 probably the last significant work of systematic philosophy in the west

>>	Anonymous Fri May 14 09:27:24 2021 No.18240417 >>18240405 And you're a loser retard. Don't interact with me ever again.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 14 09:28:58 2021 No.18240424 File: 66 KB, 652x1024, 1616102325636.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>18240417 >And you're a loser retard. Don't interact with me ever again.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 14 09:37:46 2021 No.18240461 >>18237489 Naw, read Real Men Don't Eat Quiche instead

>>	Anonymous Fri May 14 09:38:48 2021 No.18240465 >>18238294 Autism probably

>>	Anonymous Fri May 14 09:41:54 2021 No.18240478 >>18240417 >Don't interact with me ever again. Or what?

>>	Anonymous Fri May 14 09:43:13 2021 No.18240489 >>18240478 Answer your door and find out

>>	Anonymous Fri May 14 10:05:42 2021 No.18240577 File: 305 KB, 680x729, 1595984762264.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>18240489 >Answer your door and find out

Anonymous Fri May 14 10:11:55 2021 No.18240611

>>18239831
In logical notation, the ~, ¬, and - are used to indicate negation. He wrote this in a letter to G. E. Moore where they would have been discussing logic. The ~ meaning approximately is an informal or mathematical usage, not appropriate to the context.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 14 10:13:18 2021 No.18240617 >>18239674 What do you think his important points were

>>	Anonymous Fri May 14 10:14:27 2021 No.18240622 >>18240405 What do you agree with weininger about? It’s pretty clear he’s at least misogynistic (although obviously whether or not you care about that is up to you)

>>	Anonymous Fri May 14 10:15:45 2021 No.18240627 >>18240412 Not even considering Wittgenstein, Spengler, etc. do you thing it was right

>>	Anonymous Fri May 14 10:17:35 2021 No.18240632 >>18240617 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digit_ratio#Correlation_with_traits

>>	Anonymous Fri May 14 10:18:13 2021 No.18240636 >>18240627 he's right about women and jews. also spengler would have a stroke if you called his work "systematic philosophy", which he hated. dont care about wittgenstein

>>	Anonymous Fri May 14 10:22:39 2021 No.18240652 >>18240632 Correlation between gender and certain traits? I’m not sure many people would dispute that. The traditional understanding of femininity and masculinity are quite common prior to the 20s, I’m not really sure what you’re saying here

>>	Anonymous Fri May 14 10:23:56 2021 No.18240658 >>18240636 In what sense was he right, I guess is what I’m asking.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 14 10:26:19 2021 No.18240667 >>18240652 Most people are not overly keen to admit psychopathy is a typically feminine trait.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 14 10:31:05 2021 No.18240688 >>18240667 Is this what you think was important in work or prescient

>>	Anonymous Fri May 14 10:38:07 2021 No.18240708 >>18240636 Do you think he was right about celibacy and chastity too?

Anonymous Fri May 14 10:41:18 2021 No.18240724

>>18240622
I was really impressed with his writings on genius, memory, and love. And although I don't agree with everything he says about women, I think much of it does approach some form of observable truths. You could call it misogynistic by today's standards (but who cares about those), but if you think his writings come from rage, you've not understood his point.

Anonymous Fri May 14 10:51:02 2021 No.18240765

>>18240724
Yes I agree I think the impulse to say someone only wrote something because of x event in their personal life is pretty low, all things considered. I would qualify that by saying that an authors personal life can and often is the catalyst for their work. His work on genius and memory was very interesting to me as well, and the stuff on love was ok.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 14 11:07:17 2021 No.18240847 >>18240636 Lol the whole women are the Jews of gender thing,

>>	Anonymous Fri May 14 11:08:29 2021 No.18240855 >>18240724 what was true

>>	Anonymous Fri May 14 11:38:54 2021 No.18240983 >>18240855 The non-morality But basically the stuff that can also be found in most esoteric texts about man/woman duality.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 14 12:32:46 2021 No.18241269 >>18240724 >if you think his writings come from rage, you've not understood his point. What was Weininger's relationship with his mother and father like?

>>	Anonymous Fri May 14 12:33:48 2021 No.18241277 >>18240724 You're impressed with the most Kantian aspects of Weininger (ie the most unoriginal).

>>	Anonymous Fri May 14 15:50:18 2021 No.18242420 >>18240658 i dont think his system was "correct", just by observing women how he described them was pretty accurate >>18240708 generally yes

>>	Anonymous Fri May 14 20:24:38 2021 No.18243788 It's just rehashed Kant (another incel freak).

>>	Anonymous Fri May 14 20:58:46 2021 No.18243968 sauce on a cheap edition of this?

>>	Anonymous Fri May 14 22:14:56 2021 No.18244346 >>18243968 Translations aren’t great, and not really worth it. Expensive wherever you buy it. Only cheap option is pdf

>>	Anonymous Fri May 14 22:18:12 2021 No.18244360 >>18243968 Why do you want it

>>	Anonymous Sat May 15 04:28:58 2021 No.18245777 >>18243968 I got a cheap reprinted one but it's full of errors, the blue one with red and yellow font.

>>	Anonymous Sat May 15 05:24:30 2021 No.18245941 >>18243788 yes, Hanna Arendt was indeed an incel freak

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