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How do you feel about /lit/ becoming a significant force in the online intellectual sphere? We just got a shout out from an Islamic scholar with a PhD from Princeton because of Guenonchads.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KNKkXzpK-GM

>> No.18336510

>>18336506
I bet that the son, utilizing his 200 IQ, is the one who posted the library video here.

>> No.18336513

>>18336506
God i hate /lit/

>> No.18336544

>>18336506
I've been waiting ten years for it to happen but it never did or will because nobody on here reads and even when they do it's rarely the same things and even when they are they're rarely discussed seriously.

/lit/ is for pseud shitposting. Always has been. Always will. If that counts as significant then God help us.

>> No.18336550

>>18336544
You're concerned w the wrong things

>> No.18336552

>>18336506
all my Guenon-posting has finally paid off! Alhamdulillah

>> No.18336555

>>18336550
You should be more concerned than you are.

>> No.18336563

>>18336555
I am the one with the insights newfag. Almost all your trends start with me.

>> No.18336566

>>18336506
>becoming a significant force in the online intellectual sphere
>guy posted a link and gave no sort of value
>significant force in the online intellectual sphere

>> No.18336578

>>18336563
Prove it.

>> No.18336587

>the Islam posters that prove themselves fundamentally incapable of basic argumentation and abstract thought are literal Ivy League phds
Is Islam just that shallow or has academia truly devolved into such a pathetic state?

>> No.18336591

>>18336578
I don't need to. I had no idea you were so emotionally unstable you'd reply so needily.

I suppose I can newfag. Say anything you think is true and I'll send your life O a completely new direction. I haven't even be able to read in a few months and I'll blow your mind and add a new potential trend to lit or the world.

>> No.18336597

>>18336587
It's just that we don't care to waste our time arguing with ideas that were already refuted retroactively.

t. Cornell simpleton

>> No.18336605

TIME STAMP you fucking idiot.

I dont care to watch the entire thing jsut for him to say 4channel.org once.

>> No.18336608

>>18336506
MashAllah, very based.

>> No.18336617

>>18336591
>Say anything you think is true
You're a lying faggot.

You have ten minutes.

>> No.18336620

>>18336506
>How do you feel about /lit/ becoming a significant force in the online intellectual sphere?
this is far from happening because nobody here actually reads outside of maybe one or two anons and discussion is always limited but if this did happen that would be crazy

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Fuck I hope not. If I ever became any sort of author of note, I'd never mention /lit/ directly for fear of making it even shittier than it is now.

>> No.18336630

>>18336605
Two minutes and 45 seconds in.

>> No.18336649

>>18336630
>got posted to 4chan
>now thats a strange place
>anyways...

WOW great thread! thanks faggots!

>> No.18336676

>>18336506
>online
>intellectual

nice oxymoron

>> No.18336684

>>18336617
Cope bitch. You will always be below me and you will always be wrong and you dare not tell me your belief or I will fuck your whole world.

>> No.18337025

>>18336620
If we're being unironic for a moment. I have noticed that a lot of things that are memes on /lit/ leak out into other sections of the internet. But there might be ambiguous causality with the question of who influenced who.

>> No.18337028

>>18336506
Now we know where the strangely erudate Jihad threads were coming from

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18337049

>>18336506
Is this true, bros?

>> No.18337068

>>18337025
Pewdiepie used memes like Start with the Greeks

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lol that kid looks like young steve jobs

>> No.18337155

>>18336506
>That guy on the left posts here
Probably the one making Islam anime threads to get converts

>> No.18337170

>>18337049
He is very famous in traditional circles in Pakistan, India and Iran.

>> No.18337179

>islamic scholars at princeton surprised to find out indonesia is the largest muslim country with tens of millions of internet users
even viral marketing chuds hired to promote marvel movies online know this. jesus christ, academia is shit.

>> No.18337284

>>18337049
pbuh

>> No.18337298

>>18336506
>just got a shout out from an Islamic scholar with a PhD from Princeton because of Guenonchads

Tradcaths of /lit/ (of whom I am a sympathizer) eternally btfo.

>> No.18337315

It’s like the inverse of PewDiePie mentioning Mishima. Now, we have Islamic scholars mentioning the board so I hope you all appreciate the board becoming /islamiclit/.

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>>18336513
What a bunch of pretentious niggers.

>> No.18337345

>>18337049
yes

>> No.18337351

>>18336506
the fatass on the right is probably the guy putting money into guenon threads

ivy league universities are filled with retards anyway

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>>18336506
>his father specialises in esoteric shiism
utterly based

>> No.18337946

>>18336506
wonder wether he covers his wife in a trashbag

>> No.18337978

>>18337315
For real? Post proof pls this is interesting.

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>>18337315
>I hope you all appreciate the board becoming /islamiclit/.
at last

>> No.18338060

>>18336506
Based

>> No.18338067

>>18337994
Masallah.

>> No.18338156

>>18336684
>You will always be below me and you will always be wrong and you dare not tell me your belief or I will fuck your whole world.
not that guy, but if he is below you why do you have to prove it to him? like wouldnt the best move be to close you computer?

>> No.18338238

>>18337994
that image is confusing, it looks like a muslim but the icon looks orthodox christian

>> No.18338256

>>18338238
>he doesn't know the name of Rumi (pbuh)
The Greek is odd though.

>> No.18338269

>>18338238
Its rumi, depicted in the orthodox iconographic style

>>18338256
Yeah dont know why thats there, but just felt it was a comfy image

>> No.18338355

>that zoomer tier editing at the beginning
why the fuck

>> No.18338707

>>18338355
If you'd watch the video, you'd know that it's the zoomer responsible for the editing.

>> No.18338720

>>18336506
Guenonfag is paying Indian call centers to shill now.
The absolute state.

>> No.18338999

>>18336506
guy sounds based. has a good rapport with his kid too. too bad i dont give a fuck about islam.

>> No.18339000

>>18338999
checked

>> No.18339201

>>18338999
He talks about occultism. His library and book videos are the best, but the recent horror movie review was pretty good too.

>> No.18339215

>>18339201
Hes comfy. He started a recent video series about the problem of evil I think

>> No.18340749

>>18336506
Literally who? Why do you guys keep posting these people here?

>> No.18340776

>>18336506
wholesome. in decadent 2021 this passes for S-tier quality father-son time. if i had something like this my brain would be 2x wrinklier right now

>> No.18340783

>>18339000
double checked

>> No.18340800

>>18337994
Incredibly beautiful portrait. I think I might read some Rumi now.

>> No.18340808

>>18336506
Mentioning a scholar incessantly, with no context, and coincidentally being notice by people who light study said scholar, is not being a “significant force”

>> No.18341386

>>18336587
lol seethe

>> No.18341455

>>18336506
The most rigorous discussion of literature on the internet takes place here, and the most rigorous of it all takes place in ______/sffg/_______

>> No.18341994

>>18337025
That's true, but in the end it's still very inconsequential.

>> No.18342073

Why are 99% of booktubers fucking garbage?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-2iyNMxbwXM

>> No.18342099

>>18342073
Because they have BAs in English (aka gender studies/sociology), that is to say non literature.

>> No.18342107

>>18338707
Yes, I figured. No, it doesn’t make it better.

>> No.18342131

>>18341455
go back to arguing about vtubers and bakker loser.

>> No.18342581

>>18339215
He's really comfy.

>> No.18342685

>>18342073
>ugly
>Annoying Ellen Degenerate rollercoaster voice.
>zoomer editing
>muh sexism
>severely retarded
>"it's really old it was like written in the 2000s so its really fuckin old"
>"tha fuckin ff fucking treetment of women is fuckin not fuckin good"
>"its fuckin weird its strange... and weird... then things get fuckin weirder"
>"lists are being made about women! LISTS!... its takin me out of the fukin story its not relevant to story"
>"stephen king bad"
>"mansplaining"
>Complains about the main character sleeping with lots of women
>calls him an incel

How do I live after watching this video, bros?

>> No.18343179

>>18342685
There's no way we're going to maintain a society with people like this. At least the retards of yesteryear could be put to manual labor.

>> No.18343189

>>18336587
People in academia are just paternalistic enough towards muslims that they don't hold them to western scholarship standards.

>> No.18343194

>>18336506
Why Guénon of all people when you could have memed Henry Corbin or literally anyone else.

>> No.18343202

>>18336506
>an Islamic scholar with a PhD from Princeton
So it's worse than that time when Pewdiepie referenced the /fitlit/ meme?

>> No.18343211

>>18343189
The West has no scholarship standards. That's why anything goes. Postmodernism, baby.

>> No.18343239

>>18343211
>The West has no scholarship standards
Wrong. Try publishing anything that seems to prove blacks are intellectually inferior; try publishing anything that seems to prove women are just bad at STEM and no amount of policies can change that.

>> No.18343253

>>18343211
I know, but non-western scholars of islam are practically held to no standard whatsoever because people are afraid of being called racists/islamophobes or the muzzies dropping the o(rientalist)-word.

Considering that actual believing muslim scholars of islam have the courage and intent of a fundamentalist christian when it comes to critically analyzing their scripture I don't see that changing anytime soon, islam will literally never have something like the entire 19th century of liberal theology in Germany, therefore they will never be able to actually make worthwhile criticism of theological or scriptural nature.

>> No.18343257

>>18343239
Those aren't not intellectual standards, it's just political correctness. Plus, we're not talking about STEM here (which does actually have standards), we're talking about philosophy and religion.

>> No.18343272

>>18343253
>islam will literally never have something like the entire 19th century of liberal theology in Germany, therefore they will never be able to actually make worthwhile criticism of theological or scriptural nature.
And that's a good thing. I'm proud of Muslims for not giving their tradition up to the desecration of modern "rationalism" which deconstructs everything it doesn't like, while selectively ignoring the rest. We should all be taking full advantage of postmodernism to destroy the very civilization that gave rise to it.

>> No.18343280

>>18343272
>We should all be taking full advantage of postmodernism to destroy the very civilization that gave rise to it.

Indeed, we all long to be like children once more.

>> No.18343281

>>18336506
So /lit/ is going the /pol/ route? Going mainstream, and then gets invaded by normalfags.

>> No.18343296

>>18343280
Modern so-called rationalists and critics are the children. A skepticism that is not skeptical of itself is not worth a cent.

>> No.18343325

>>18343281
LOL OH NO HE DIDNT

>> No.18343371

>>18336506
I just checked out some of his videos and he's just as much of a retard as your run of the mill muslim is. One of his videos is him literally going "if the koran isn't true why are there so many versions of the bible in other denominations", another is "there are literally NO CORRECTIONS in any of the early koran manuscripts we possess!!!444". In the former video he literally says that judaism's and christianity's textual tradition is inferior because it wasn't orally transmitted.

You don't even need to be a christian or a jew to be in awe of how we got there, that guys like this are working at Princeton.

>> No.18343528

>>18336506
>4chan invented the only interesting new literal device in about 50 years
>nobody actively takes notice
>I shiggy

>> No.18343888

>>18343194
He does talk about Henry Corbin in one of his videos about why Muslims walk in a circle around the Kaaba.

>>18343211
The West is intentionally retarded. The journals are filled with cliques that gatekeep anything heterodox from being published; and the grant money goes to the worst places, such as gender studies. Meanwhile, there are private studies on topics like race, and technologies that we've never even heard of, and the results are kept secret.

>> No.18343992

/lit/ is unironically the best causal (i.e. non-academic and freely accessible) place to talk about literature online. I really wish it weren't but it is.

>> No.18344091

>>18343253
>>18343272
>>18343280
>>18343296
Neither of you have any idea what Islamic Studies is like. I suggest you look into Shahab Ahmed's What is Islam, and then look into Jonathan Brown's record to see what things are really like.

>> No.18344111

When my Divine Comedy translation gets published (later this year, God willing), I will give a brief shout-out to /lit/ in the acknowledgements and catapult the board instantly to international fame. We're gonna be knee-deep in prime art-hoe pussy, boys.

>> No.18344155

>>18336506
Timestamp dpishit.

>> No.18344160

>>18343992
I hate to say it, but you're right. There are some discord servers that beat /lit/, but discord servers die after a week so /lit/ always come out on top.

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>>18344111
BASED

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>>18343992
It really is desu, but some threads are signifcantly better than others

>>18344111
nice, post a thread when you are done, I look forward to reading it

>> No.18345413

>>18344111
based and checked. godspeed

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18345426

>>18344111
checked and witnessed

>> No.18346302

>>18343211
Says someone not in academia, surely

>> No.18346635

>>18346302
>not in academia
That's a positive more than anything else. Have you seen the state of academia?

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>>18336506
Give a timestamp you faggot, I'm not going to waste my time looking for it.
>How do you feel about /lit/ becoming a significant force in the online intellectual sphere?
Always has been. 4chan is the place 'to be' on the internet. Similar to Rome, New York, Paris etc. in the past, 4chan is were the sharpest and greatest minds come and gather.

>> No.18346804

>>18343189
Lmao no. Muslim academics are held to a double standard compared to Christians. Plenty of Muslim academics can attest to this.

>> No.18346837

Islam si cancer.

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>>18342073
why

>> No.18346858

>>18336587
There are two breeds of Islam posters on /lit/:
1. People who are quite intelligent, post interesting things about the Classical Arabic language, excerpts from the Quran which are insightful, etc. They don't really denigrate/offend anyone, and are valuable posters. They seem to have disappeared for the most part (minus the Guenon posters), but they were good while they were here. I think the unfriendly reception they got from anti-Islam people here pushed them away.
2. Islamist zoomers who see Islam as the key to creating a trad+based society where feminism and LGBT are crushed. They rarely if ever discuss Arabic or the Quran, and instead spam ISIS propaganda, defenses of Osama Bin Laden, etc. They also insult Christians/Hindus/etc and can't hold a conversation. These guys cam here by way of /pol/ and are a combo of Muslim incels in Europe, overly zealous converts (think tradcath zoomers but Muslims), and quite possibly actual law enforcemen trying to see if there are terrorist threats fermenting on /lit/.

>> No.18346863

>>18346858
the second group also forces the first group away. before guenonfag the trad threads were run by a sincere muslim and there was a discord with good discussion too. guenonfag took over the threads and turned tradposting into the joke it is now

>> No.18346868

>>18346756
2:45 lazy faggot

>> No.18346893

>>18346756
She's gorgeous. Any more pics of her?

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>>18346858
>>18346863
This really. Its sad, I would love proper islamic discussion but they are so rare, and the ones that are often get diluted by shit-flinging on by tradlarpers and others as such. I lurk signifcantly more than post because of this, but there still enough to keep me here. I enjoy what good discussions there are here

>> No.18346932

>>18346858
Homosexuality is trad

>> No.18346937

>>18346932
Inshallah

>> No.18347028

I enjoyed Gregory Sadler's videos but ever since he started mentioning his tranny daughter in several of his videos I can't see him the same.

>> No.18347038

Surely princeton is not the place to become a truly great Islamic scholar?

>> No.18347040

>>18347028
>Gregory Sadler
who? what does he discuss?