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This book fucking rocks

>> No.18364572

Yeah, too bad the sequels dont

>> No.18364587

>>18364572
I havent read the sequels, why are they bad anon?

>> No.18365133

>>18364564
>tfw you'll never ride on a space velodrome

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>>18365133

>> No.18365150

>>18364564
Yeah

>> No.18365236

>>18364587
they are fine. there are so few cyberpunk books you might as well read them if you like Neuromancer

>> No.18365249

>>18364587
They're not "bad" but the quality does sort of drop off. Mona Lisa Overdrive is a satisfying closer, however.

His best after Neuromancer, in my opinion is Idoru

>> No.18365257

>>18365139
So, kinda like Tron's light cycles?

>> No.18365543

I bought this book, tried to read it, and dropped after a 100 pages or so. maybe it didn't click with me. it's still sitting on my shelf

>> No.18366246
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18366246

I preferred Burning Chrome to be honest.
I just started Count Zero yesterday though.

>> No.18366261

>>18366246
And I mean the collection as a whole. I think short stories are where he shines.

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18366276

This movie fucking sucks

>> No.18366509

>>18366246
Burning Chrome is fantastic

>> No.18366511

>>18366276
yea

>> No.18366512

>>18364564
After the dust settled in my psyche I decided that I like SnowCrash more.

>> No.18366530

>>18364564
Gibson is MOGGED BY PKD

>> No.18366531

>>18366512
For me, it is The Diamond Age.

>> No.18366536

>>18366261
I agree Gernsback Continuum is the best thing he has written although Neuromancer is a very good book

>> No.18366822

>>18366246
is count zero actually good? judging by the beggining, it feels like schlocky scifi thriller junk.

>> No.18367445

>>18364564
the climax/final heist was a bit of a mess to make sense of, loved the rest of it though

>> No.18367468

waiting for all the brainlets who got filtered by Gibson's descriptions to come in here

>> No.18367888

>>18364564
He's a good writer. Pattern Recognition is good too.

>> No.18367947

Wow. Wasn't expecting to come in here and find such a high quality thread.
Gibson's alright. I loved Burning Chrome and Neuromancer but I think his quality got progressively worse after that.

>> No.18368090

>>18364564
for some reason, this bock and Crystal Express as well as Hard Drive (David Pogue) are sandwiched together in my mind
there are many fine books that came out 1980-1995
this is a time when there was still plenty of energy in the future
Strange Attractors by Sleator and Hyperion by Simmons also came out during this time

>> No.18368261

>>18368090
>there are many fine books that came out 1980-1995
>this is a time when there was still plenty of energy in the future

Eh, Gibson et al were inspired by the utter failure of the American space program to deliver the future promised by a previous generation of Scifi writer and so they envisaged a inward turning perspective where people explored and conquered an virtual innerworld, cyberspace.
No one is conquering the stars (except maybe AI) in Gibsons vision of the future, you just have some satellites filled with hobos and a rapidly degenerating nobility.

>> No.18368290

>>18365139
>>18364564
Why did Riviera have to lose bros, Molly was a huge bitch.

>> No.18368302

don't get memed bros its so fucking bad. its like something a child would write.

>> No.18368306

apart from flying cars, hologram ads and semi-permanent VR headsets, are we living in a cyberpunk dystopia?

>> No.18368309

>>18368302
this, I hated this book

>> No.18368347

>>18364564
Very fun read. I want to check out the sequels soon.

>> No.18368363

The part where they go through the halls of the station is such a bore

>> No.18368394

>>18366246
Burning chrome is 100% worth the read, Hinterlands is my all time favorite

>> No.18368420

>>18364564
Too much sex

>> No.18368508

>>18364572
>>18364587

The sequels were even more based. The Count is basically a 4chan weeb who gets in over his head and grows into a super Chad

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>>18364564
Yeah, he used to be cool, but with his success came...fragility.

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18368703

>read Neuromancer in 7th grade
>didn’t understand a fucking word of it
>subsequently have read it every 6 - 12 months; always get something new out of it as I catch new references or understand things more clearly with the widened horizons of an adult
>check Gibson’s Twitter out of curiosity, don’t know too much about him other than he was a big 60’s leftist who dodged the draft
>he’s a completely hopeless libtard pee poo drumpf wears a diaper, is a cheeto, and is a faggot with Putin

Extremely disappointing bros. Was expecting a bit more uh maturity from a guy who wrote such a groundbreaking masterpiece. Last I checked on Twitter he was bitching about the fucking royal family drama. What the fuck?

>> No.18368705

>>18365139
>Armitage walked to the other end of the projection
and shot a hot load out of his ass into the wizards ear

>> No.18368714

>>18366276
>A pulse-pounding cyber slam!
An anal-pounding prostate grinding!

>> No.18368724

>>18368714
>>A pulse-pounding cyber slam!
Advanced review of Space Jam 2

>> No.18368775

>>18368705
>and shot a hot load out of his ass into the wizards ear
Then the evil neuromancer died a slow death from cyber aids.
The End

>> No.18368786

>>18368705
>>18368714
>>18368724
>>18368775
None of these are remotely funny. You have the whole internet to post gay shit, why do you have to do it here too?

>> No.18368797

>>18368786
Fuck off, William. Hillary lost.

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>>18368786
>None of these are remotely funny. You have the whole internet to post gay shit, why do you have to do it here too?

>> No.18368834

>>18366246
Agreed, much prefer this actually

>> No.18370296

>>18368703
>>he’s a completely hopeless libtard pee poo drumpf wears a diaper, is a cheeto, and is a faggot with Putin
Many such cases.
SAD

>> No.18370451

>>18368302
>>18368309
kys my friend

>> No.18370568

If you like pointless incomprehensible tech gibberish than yeah you'll probably like this shit

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>>18370568
I have similar reservations that I voiced in another Neuromancer thread earlier today.

It's full of confusing scenes of confusing descriptions and a thousand buzzwords and Newspeak that Gibson weaves in while using his staccato style sentences to ensure we have as little to go on as possible. I also feel the ending was trying to be profound but it felt like it fell flat and nothing much happened.

I feel like it would have been a fun, albeit shallow, read if he cut out half the technobabble.

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18370634

So is this a cyberpunk thread?
Anyone read "Schismatrix" by Bruce Sterling?
I heard it's pretty good.

>> No.18370656

Not bad, its a little confusing wtf theyre saying at first but you get a hang of it towards the middle. Probably one of those books you appreciate more on a reread

>> No.18370676

>>18370568
>>18370625
The techno-babble lodged in sparse conversational dialogue was the point. The book is meant to disorient to produce "future-shock". Gibson never originally intended to write scifi, he fell in to it more than anything, and his primary influence was guys like Barthes and Pynchon.

You don't have to like it, but it was intention

>> No.18370685

>>18370634
Christ. What a retarded fucking title. Utterly ridiculous.

>> No.18371336

>>18370676
Eh, that might be but I still found the ending to be mediocre.

>> No.18371538

>>18368703
Separate the art from the artist

>> No.18372001

>>18370296
fuck off donny you piece of shit

>> No.18372005

>>18372001
I think it’s so insanely funny that overnight Trump has ceased to be a daily topic being discussed.

>> No.18372019

>>18372005
Yea, but every time I look into yer eyes; I am overcome with such lust. O, Donny won't you be my eromenos xx.

>> No.18373585

>>18368647
where is this from?

>> No.18373621

>>18373585
Y'know, I found it on /lit/ but never bothered to look it up...

>> No.18373684

>>18371336
i feel like the scene where neuromancer fuses with wintermute was very good and feels properly climactic but then theres this somewhat lukewarm epilogue to it where the super smart god AI goes 'yea good job i guess im wicked smart also i talk to other smart aliens now, bye'
the book wouldve been way better if it just ended right after that climactic fusion, keep the ending more cryptic and theological.

>> No.18374603

>>18368775
Actually, cyber aids is in hyperion

>> No.18374625

I found the execution really lacking when I read Neuromancer. Very uneven, parts felt almost unfinished, and the ending is just plain bad. Maybe when I read it I just wasn't in the right mood or something, but I was really disappointed in it given how much everyone talks it up. Maybe I need to give it another shot.

>> No.18375082

>>18364587
They are not bad, but Neuromancer is an adrenaline rush compared to the other two. Also, I keked a lot while reading Count Zero; I wouldn't say what >>18368508 said, but I felt something alike.

>> No.18375085

>>18368647
Critics are worse than jannies, they alwas were, they will always be.

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>>18364587
Basically what >>18365236 , >>18365249 , >>18375082 say. Personally, I feel that Neuromancer is it's own thing and Count and Mona were written as extras not really continuing with the Neuromancer vibe. It was probably really hard for Gibson to get the same vibe as he made for Neuro.

>>18366822
Read the top section

>>18366246
>>18366276
>>18367947
>>18368394
I don't get how Johnny Mnemonic got the movie out of all the stories in Burning Chrome. There were so many, in my opinion, better stories to use for movies. I thought the gimmicks were far fetched and kek'd when I saw they actually made the dolphin for the movie.

>>18371538
unironically this

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>>18375457
New Rose Hotel was adapted too.

>> No.18375486

>>18375457
does the johnny mnemonic movie have those werewolve dudes fights?

>> No.18375513

>>18368703
propaganda has become exceedingly good these days. it's actually very fitting that Gibson would fall prey to social media brainwashing algorithms funded and run by multinational corporations.

>> No.18375515

>>18375486
No, just homeless black people. No dome (gay) or trans-furry Johnny (thank God) either. It was pretty fucking kino in like 1997

>> No.18375608

>>18375472
please say it's any better than Johnny