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I'm scared that this book is correct and everything is about to get much worse

>> No.18387506

Is this another accfag shill topic?

>> No.18387554

300+ post thread with no solutions incoming

>> No.18387623

>>18387554
No solutions and no meaningful evaluation.

>> No.18387643

Liberalism didn't fail and no I'm not reading a pop philosophy book

>> No.18387646
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>>18387623
Too late.

>> No.18387661

>>18387452
If they are able to solve global warming, pollution, and the like, I don't see anything that will lead to liberalism's decline, at least in America. (Much of Western Europe will likely slip into a Islamic form of government, but that's a different situation).

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18387693

Ever heard of John Michael Greer?
He’s a writer who predicts that the US will dissolve into hundreds feudal, of agriculture-based city states ruled by warlords and chieftains who we will pledge our fealty to, and he says it will happen within our lifetimes
He has written several books about it. A lot of it is based in economic theory so it’s not really your typical schizobabble

>> No.18387714

>>18387661
>Much of Western Europe will likely slip into a Islamic form of government

no, they absolutely will not, lol. muslims are quickly being liberalized just like everyone else is

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>>18387452
Yes.
It's more a matter of the human condition. Nepotism, corruption, stagnation, moral degeneration etc.
In liberal societies, in my studies, tend to accelerate towards such a fate much faster then authoritarian ones naturally, assuming no one leaders shits everything up (think Commodus)

>> No.18387725

>>18387714
Look at it this way. When 50+ million Egyptian refugees arrive in Europe after the Ethiopian Dam is built, what do you think they will do to the nature of politics in Europe?

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this book was also right about everything

especially with those amazon despair boxes

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>>18387693
I believe the US will descend into a Warlord situation within the next decade. Right now, the only thing holding it together is the economy with the bread and circus. (which itself is being held together by duct tape and horse jizz)
I don't, however, agree with the outcome. I theorize that the unrest we see will be like what happened in China; with the end result being a strong, central government rising from the ashes. I also firmly believe, unlike in China, it would be heavily Right Wing.

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>>18387725
>implying Europe would make it that far before collapsing

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>>18387730
If only you know how bad things are

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>>18387730
If only you knew how bad things really are

>> No.18387804

>>18387762
This guy gets it

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>>18387661
But they wont.
Because solving the issue is less profitable then selling a treatment for the issue.

>> No.18387824

>>18387452
Democracy was never meant to function under a society with nearly universal suffrage. The Athenian model worked well because full citizenship was only extended to about ten percent of genetically fit White men.

>> No.18387825

>>18387812
Well, then liberalism will collapse. The liberal world order will not survive the chaos that will be unleashed by these crises.

>> No.18387828

>>18387718
That list exploits the first item, it relies on the fact that most who read it will have only had limited exposure to history and everything they have had since school was slanted towards their own ideology. It ignores all that is different between past and present, lists what is in common and ignores commonalities which do not support the conclusion. We could very well be in the decline, but that little list provides little in the way of evidence.

>> No.18387889

>>18387828
This is true. The list does paint broad strokes towards the general lifecycle of a civilization and condense them in a very basic and extremely surface level understanding of the topic.
If you want a more accurate and closer understanding of the forecast of this civilization, read >>18387762.

>> No.18387900

>>18387452
Liberalism hasn't failed, its consequences have been devastating, though.

>> No.18387916

>>18387452
>wake up
>turn on light that uses electricity
>take a shower in your home
>eat food bought in a store
>turn on pc with internet
>shill a book on the failure of liberalism

>> No.18387917

>>18387889
That is essentially the same as the list. Ignore everything that does not support the conclusion desired.

>> No.18387933

>>18387824
>Greek
>White

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>>18387917
Ok. What further info do I need to provide?

>> No.18387974

>>18387916
>we live in a society

>> No.18388038

>>18387900
Isn't that the book's thesis? I remember skimming the first chapter and that's how the author introduces the book iirc

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>>18387933
> year is 4021
>2000 years after the fall of America and the invasion of spicnigger hordes
> Americans are brown
> a conversation takes place on an intranet billboard
> " ... Americans, manifest destiny, the white man..."
> a small-framed, bespectacled anonymous poster is perturbed
> a his mouth twists in a stilted grin
> ">Americans"
> ">white"

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>>18388056
>year is 2021
>Americans are brown

>> No.18388072

>>18387933
Greeks were White before the Turks raped them.

>> No.18388085

aaaah politics! such a nice hobby to have anon! Now this sure is the right subject to spend time on hahah

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>>18388038
The book's thesis is that Liberalism is fundamentally incoherent and intolerant, and so it has a huge capacity for eroding society. Liberalism is very powerful and globally exported now (especially with Woke stuff) but that's exactly the reason why it's "failing." The more that it succeeds, the more that society disintegrates into a consumer cesspool of narcissism and detachment from purpose, reason and tradition. As you could probably guess from the current state of America, where liberals are now condemning their own founding fathers, this is what's happening. The system is incredibly self-loathing and nihilistic but the basic principles of Liberalism are what enable this breakdown.

>> No.18388138

>>18387730
Byung Chul Han is right about everything but for whatever reason this board hates him despite none of them reading him. There was a thread a couple days ago where a guy was exposed for giving opinions on him without reading any of his books

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>>18388112
Thanks, anon. Much appreciated. I think I'll have to read it once and for all.

>> No.18388161

>>18387933
If you’d ever care to read Greek literature you’d know they were white by the fact that everyone has Caucasian features such as blue eyes and blond, brown, and red hair

>> No.18388167

>>18387623
>>18387554

bump

>> No.18388168

>>18388138
I bought Psychopolitics a month ago and the parts that made sense were great.

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>>18388112
On the money, anon.
Combined with the threat of outside factors (natural disasters, foreign meddling via wars and economic skull fuckery etc.) I legitimately don't know how long Western Civilization has.
The rot that liberalism breeds has finally managed to break through to the surface, corrupting everything to the point where society is totally unrecognizable from what it was even 50 years ago.
I fear the worst is yet to come.

>> No.18388189

>>18388170
I want a timetable. People say "liberalism will collapse", but when? 2030? 2050? 2100?

>> No.18388191

>>18387693
hes also that guy who literally believes in magic

>> No.18388200

>>18387452
I just read this over the last week. It is certainly quite a blackpill and seems to point towards a future of the continual growth of state power and dissolution of cultural and traditional bonds. If there is any whitepill I suppose it's that states of the type we are becoming have all collapsed due to the inability of central planning to contend with complex and distributed crises, of the sorts that we are definitely facing right now (hyperinflation + mass migration + external power struggles + civil unrest). But of course, living through the collapse will suck balls.

>> No.18388231

>>18387452

I read that book and I've skimmed parts of death of the west by pat Buchanan. Neither of them is pessimistic or realistic enough, although the first is worth a read.

I would need to go back and reread Why liberalism failed to make sure I'm correct in my criticism but I think its big mistake is to think that liberalism really means liberalism and not attempting to take and build power. Liberalism isn't "undermining itself". People attempting to take power is changing the conditions of the world, so taking power now relies on things that violate the principles of the old order

E.g., The current system encourages the masses to take no responsibility for their actions or even mental states. That gives people power because bureaucrats get more power to tax and spend on welfare. Of course that undermines the liberal ideas of free will, freedom from coercion (taxation), etc, but nobody cares about that.

>> No.18388241

>>18388231
Deneen's argument is that as people are further "liberated" from various cultures and traditional institutions they are made increasingly atomized and thus weakened, which makes the vacuum in which the central state grows, e.g. shitlibs demanding the government do everything for them and make the market work how they want, because they have become powerless to effect any of these changes themselves through their own liberation from sources of power.

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>>18388189
Sheeeit. That is really hard to say, Anon.
There is a million different factors that goes into the death of a civilization. It can happen over a series of centuries, like the Byzantine Empire, or implode within a matter of weeks like East Germany, and the other countries of the Warsaw Pact as a whole.
The wheels are turning at full speed, but it isn't going anywhere.
The most conservative estimate I can give is ~2050. That's when I expect the global economy to become unviable.

>> No.18388268

>>18387917
Anon?
What other items or pieces of information do I need to provide?

>> No.18388277

>>18388168
‘The Dictatorship of Transparency’ in The Crisis of Freedom sums up what the Internet has become pretty succinctly

>> No.18388304

>>18387762
Any good books on Weimar Republic?

>> No.18388315

>>18387452

I'm Latin American
I know people in the first world generally used to complain about the 2 big parties of their political system being rather similar.
To me democracy can only work when the two big parties are rather similar. You need to have a lot of shared values between the 2 main parties, so that when you vote it just means you turn a little bit to the right or a little bit to the left. Like course corrections of a ship.

If society is completely divided, two halves with completely different values. democracy is impossible. you won't get stability, growth, long term planning.
that is pretty much what happens in latin america. here democracy is more real, in the bad way, all it takes for your country to become "communist" is one election. It happened in Chile and was averted by the coup of Pinochet. It happened in Venezuela. And may happen this sunday in Peru. Chile after decades of growth with economic policies inspired by Milton Friedman, will give itself a new constitution with a majority of far left consittuents.

the problem USA has right now is it's becoming as divided as a Latin American society. It's not racial like apartheid south africa. It's about civilizational values. from the role of the state, to what it means to be a man or woman. Biden supports children transitioning. That would have been an extremely radical message a few years ago.
you can't have a country in which half of the population is made of westerners, and the other half is made of post-moderns. or at least you can't have a functioning democracy.

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>>18388191
Yeah, and?
Magic is based

>> No.18388354

>>18388277
Summary?

>> No.18388356

>>18388304
The Weimar is a subject really not talked about in the West, mainly for the reasons described before.
Mein Kampf is an option that immediately comes to mind. However beyond that, I don't really know any other books that don't misrepresent or completely ignore the time period.
If other anons could provide some examples that would be great.

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>>18388348
Isn't that Evola?

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>>18388354
I would like to hear that too

>> No.18388489

>>18387452
After Virtue and Natural Right and History were better desu. Same basic narrative.

Deneen, don't worry, I still love you if you're lurking here.

>> No.18388578

>>18388426
Indeed

>> No.18388601

>>18388354
>>18388463
I’ll post it in a bit hold on

>> No.18388610

>>18387974
Or rather, those who believe liberalism to have failed, fail to recognize its successes.

>> No.18388646

>>18387646
This.
What is lit's obsession with meme books?

>> No.18388674

>>18388189
>>18388258
If I may invoke Ozzie Spergler and Carly Shit, the problem is innate to how Liberalism even functions. Liberalism requires an incredibly weak barrier and an internal inability to perform rapid osmosis to function. Liberalism cannot actually deal with outside threats because it's entire point is to nullify meaningful political distinctions in order to facilitate mercantile activity. Liberalism must adopt illiberal forms (such as FDR) in order to perform rabid response to illiberal activity. Given this scenario, the only way Liberalism can not fall to Illiberalism (either by being conquered or by simply never leaving a state of temporary illiberality) is by swallowing the entire planet.

Broadly, the course of Liberalism (as we now know it) is controlled by Jewish international finance. This isn't really "a conspiracy", it's just a basic fact that peoples and empires and nations wax and wane, and now it's the Jews turn to get to be big king of the sandbox. The ultimate goal here is to create a unified Europe, Asia, and Africa, centered in Jerusalem. This is the point of the Belt And Road initiative. America is merely a golem to ensure that this happens. When it's no longer useful, it will not just be discarded, but jettisoned, like a container of shit launched off of a space shuttle.

So really, we're actually talking about two things here: what happens to the Americas go tits up (spoiler warning: It's European Dark Ages 2.0), and what the transition to Neo-Jerusalem looks like (spoiler warning: it's Byzantium 2.0).

The interesting questions are thus two fold: one, who are the Germanics? If it's Spics, Neo-Europe in the Americas will look radically different due to the lower IQ (remember, the average Germanic barbarian circa 300AD had an average IQ of 100). One fun idea is that we just end up seeing South America slowly leaking its detritus northward until eventually the Southern Cone (which is mostly German) does a literal Germanic Migration up to the US. The second question is, how is Neo-Jerusalem actually realized? I have no idea. When it will be realized is probably somewhere around 2,500 if we're using Spengler's predictions. But when we talk about "Western Civilization", we have to understand that this term now, TODAY, can only be understood in certain contexts, and outside of that it's useless.

>> No.18388772

>>18388674
The way you deify Israel and the Jews is utterly bizarre to me. I don't see Jerusalem as being the center of an empire. The Israelis are surrounded on 3 sides by Muslim populations who genuinely hate them. The second American hegemony crumbles, Israel's destruction becomes a matter of time. The Islamification of Europe only furthers this. While it will certainly Europe closer to Africa and Western Asia, it will also make them enemies of Israel. As for Belt and Road, that is very much a China-centric ambition. Perhaps Israel will latch onto it in the hopes of surviving if America falls, but Iran is much closer to China than Israel can hope to be. All in all, I think Israel and the Jews are not some great power; they are dependent on the US for survival, and as our fortunes fall, theirs will as well.

As for a post-America North America? I think America would become China-lite, in that fall of the central government would result in warring states until one grows strong enough to unite the whole country again. I don't buy into IQ arguments either, so our perspectives will differ greatly.

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>>18387452
If you liked Deneens book I highly recommend the Tyranny of Liberalism by Kalb. It makes a lot of the same arguments but more in depth.

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>>18387948
>It will make miners and metals go to the moon
Uh oh...

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>>18388674
Interesting post.
This will take a while to deconstruct, so bear with me.
>This isn't really "a conspiracy", it's just a basic fact that peoples and empires and nations wax and wane, and now it's the Jews turn to get to be big king of the sandbox.
The Jews already have been the unofficial kings of the sandbox. This was achieved through the classic Jewish subversion of nation hosts to further the interests of the Jew. Really interesting, in that they are really the first group to rule without a true nation (The creation of Israel and it's continued existence is what I consider the peak era of the Jew.)
>So really, we're actually talking about two things here: what happens to the Americas go tits up (spoiler warning: It's European Dark Ages 2.0), and what the transition to Neo-Jerusalem looks like (spoiler warning: it's Byzantium 2.0).
You seem to miss multiple key points; 1) Israel is dependent on outside influence (America) in order to survive, 2) The "browning" of Europe and North America is unsustainable and will fail to reach the desired outcome of a golem race. (France is the perfect example of this, with the drums of a race war now being heard thanks to the comments of those former Generals).

The crux of your prediction relies on the fact that the things we're seeing now (ie, mass immigration and the continued maintenance of the Jewish elite). Based on past events in countries in similar situations, as well as the continued deterioration of race relations across the world, combined with the ever worsening global economy, I don't believe that your prediction is accurate.
The internet as well has hastened the death of the Jewish (Western) Civilization; the Internet. Why? Because it provides content and information that exposes the globohomo, and robs them of the one thing that made them so effective in the past; it's secrecy.

Buckle up kiddos, this ship is sinking faster then we all think.

>> No.18388959

>>18387916
There is no proof that liberalism is required for human advancement, you people just assume that without the magic of loving niggers we would still be pre-industrial.

>> No.18388980

>>18387762
nice, I made that thread. Glad to see someone actually got some use out of it. I don't really post on /pol/ anymore, or on 4chan in general.

>> No.18389005

>>18388610
You haven't read the book have you. Deneen says that liberalism has been a "success" but the whole reason it's succeeded is why it must eventually fail. You can't have a society that functions without preference to the ingroup (ancestors of the people who created the state the nation uses to administrate its affairs) and defending it against hostile outgroups.

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>>18387554

>> No.18389015

Nearly everything over the past 60+ years has been getting worse and shows zero signs of improving

Why would it get better?

>> No.18389028

>>18388980
Fucking cool dude.
I don't go on /pol/ anymore either. Mostly out of boredom. After a while you see and experience most of what it has to offer, and you end up with constantly dodging shill threads and shitting on shills and glowniggers.
I decided to do some self improvement, so I decide to come here to get book recommendations. I plan on going to /fit/ and /biz/ afterwards too.

>> No.18389036

>>18387452
We have global socialism worldwide though, if there is government there is socialism.

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>>18388948
>The internet as well has hastened the death of the Jewish (Western) Civilization; the Internet. Why? Because it provides content and information that exposes the globohomo, and robs them of the one thing that made them so effective in the past; it's secrecy.
4chan's alexa rank as of last year is 1042, not even in the top 1000 websites. Go on Wikipedia right now, you're going to see ideology presented as fact like in pic related. This is on top of media empires that are best case misleading and indecisive, worst case deliberate misinformation and propaganda, and social media outlet hosting the majority of communication selectively preserving "acceptable" opinion and thus manipulating speech outside of private conversations on a massive scale. As much of a shitshow as this site can be, this is one of the only (relatively) "free" places left on the internet, and there's honestly not very many of us.

>> No.18389063

>>18389028
Don't go to /fit/, just do starting strength and then transition to an intermediate routine. All you're going to get is /r9k/ blackpill demoralization at this point. You don't even need to go to /biz/ either, just buy ETH and LINK the next time the market dumps and wait for a few years.

>> No.18389065

>>18389045
>Modern science has shown race to be a social construct rather than a biological reality
How does the social construct theory explain the prevalence of sickle cell anemia in certain demographics?

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>>18389063
Sheeeit did those fags kill /fit/ as well?

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>>18389045
That is where you are mistaken, fren;
All of internet culture is downstream from 4chan.
The ideas and concepts here have gone on to form the cornerstone of popular internet culture, even mainstream culture.
Picrel.

>> No.18389107

The world we live in is what happens when people like these get a complete cultural victory

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6J2OlIpQgF8

>> No.18389132

>>18389084
This may have been true years ago, but it's not the case anymore, and I highly doubt anyone is going to start seeing through ideological subversion simply through wojack and pepe memes posted on facebook and twitter.

>> No.18389158

>>18389084
not true at all. tiktok and twitter are the most influential forces in the world today, the ideological headquarters of liberalism among the masses as well

>> No.18389168

>doomer faggots moping about how everything sucks because they're losers with no purpose in life
>"Everything's gonna collapse any day now! I swear it this time!"
>unironic /pol/tards
>unironically talking about taking (x)pills
>muh Rome! muh Weimar!
>DA JOOS
Terrible thread

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>>18389132
The reason as to why I believe that the opposite is true is due to the suffocating levels of apathy that are now dominating culture.
People are turning off from dominate culture. I have two examples from this year that highlight this. One, from Netflix. Jewflix has a feature where they can detect when a viewer pulls out of a video. They found that whenever a show had a scene with BLM, they would lose upwards of 79% of the viewers.
The other example is with the Oscars. This year, the Oscars had 9 million viewers at it's peak. This is one of the lowest it ever has been in history. A decade ago, the average concurrent viewers they could expect to get is 40 million.
People are unpluging and getting tired of the system they see around them.
Pic very much related

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>>18389168
Here come the shills.
This is what I like about /lit/, these faggots are way less common then on /pol/.

>> No.18389192

>>18389185
>muh shills
I do it for free because I'm tired of schizo /pol/tards like you shitting up the board.

Now take your meds

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>>18389158
Twitter is a cesspool, overrun with bots and literal window lickers.
Ticktok, however, is far more interesting to view going forward, considering now it's like a hybrid Chinese-Western operation.
To understate the importance of 4chan for it's size, however, would be foolish

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>>18389192
>He does it for free.
*ahem*
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>> No.18389226

>>18389176
>2017
Clearly, things didn't go as how they had in 1928. And while I think disillusionment with American culture is spreading in all races except African Americans, people here are pretty domesticated. I doubt anything will ever happen.

>> No.18389229

>>18389065
Ideology passed off as fact.

>> No.18389232

>>18389222
Wasted trips.

Go back >>>/pol/

>> No.18389236

>>18389226
I agree, except that if the bubble bursts and hyperinflation becomes a reality we might see that domestication fade quickly.

>> No.18389252
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>>18389232
Even kek could see that you are a faggot.
You are a sub-Janny. You do it for free, and yet you have absolutely no power here.

>> No.18389267

>>18389252
Not him, but he's right that it really didn't take much for you to go full blown "annoying /pol/tard" mode and I'm surprised you haven't started talking about trannies yet.

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>>18389226
I would agree with >>18389236
The west still has to much to lose, and therefore won't get off their asses to do anything.
However, when the economy does eventually tank, all that "domestication" as you say would go right out the window.

>> No.18389274

>>18389168
I have a 10% chance of these threads being good every time I make it ok the last one was decent

>> No.18389279

>>18389252
>Even kek
You're still stuck in 2016 if you think "praising kek" is a funny meme. Please go back to /r/thedonald or whatever shithole you came here from you absolute troglodyte.

>> No.18389284

>>18389267
I find it more annoying then anything, really.
Being called a /pol/tard and such.

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>>18389279
It's from the digit get you pretentious faggot.

>> No.18389317

>>18387725
Egypt would bomb the dam before having their country implode like that. They could make mincemeat out of those niggers with ease.

>> No.18389384

>>18389317
They would unironically lose

>> No.18389390

Now that was fun. However, lets get back on track.
Does anyone have a book recommendation for the further study of the Weimar republic and the failure of liberalism there?

>> No.18389396

>>18388189
I don't know if it's possible today for a true world power to ever collapse, necessarily. Globalism is driven by economic interests and it's been wildly successful in turning the world into one big interconnected shitshow, where everything worth propping up is propped up from every conceivable angle and kept afloat by the interests of billions. When the unsustainable social/economic game reaches the tipping point, people will just deny reality and bend the rules however necessary to keep playing. And they'll probably get away with it. It's going to take some kind of physical cataclysm for things to actually collapse, and that's hardly predictable. Liberalism will be somewhat responsible for making civilization so vulnerable, though. The complete failure of liberalism is going to be extremely gradual and history will revise that story to blame our collapse on whatever nails happened to go in the coffin and not the slow, creeping disease that actually killed us.

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>>18389396
This.
Right now, the whole system is being held up with the petro-dollar.
The way that the collapse to start within this decade is for a major event that makes the petro-dollar un-usable and worthless.
Otherwise, it could be decades before the true effects of printing infinite money for the next nugget cunny snuff orgy to manifest in the day to day lives of the average Joe.

>> No.18389445

>>18389396
>It's going to take some kind of physical cataclysm for things to actually collapse
So, climate change

>> No.18389448

>>18389445
Almost certainly not fast enough. Maybe. But I doubt it.

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>>18389445
No. I'm thinking more along the lines of a major power outage in, say, New York or Los Angles due to a natural disaster (Terrible Storm, Earthquake), should do.
Cutting the power at the heart for more then a week would be catastrophic for the globohomo.

>> No.18389490

>>18387452
Liberalism is a sin
Cf. Mirari Vos, Syllabus Errorum, etc.
Repent and Submit to the Pope

>> No.18389492

>>18389384
LOL, Egypt has one of the strongest militaries in the Middle East. They would crush those spear chuckers like a bug.

>> No.18389723

>>18389492
I dunno man.
Those wars with Israel left a black-eye on their reputation, and I don't believe with the presence of the kikes would Egypt be allowed to engage in such a war

>> No.18389810

>>18388980
So what was the nationalist right doing in that period? Where can I go to learn more?

>> No.18389831

>>18388646
Discussed enough that you don't have to read them

>> No.18389932

>>18389005
Haven't read the book but what you say is far from correct. Preference to an ingroup led to the failing of societies almost all the time.
Read Why Nations Fail by Acemoglu if you are interested.

>> No.18389944

>>18387693
Druid simping is dumb, Guenon >

>> No.18389981

>>18389492
Egypt is not in the middle east

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This book is correct