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“There are many social-media-savvy people who are choking on sanctimony and lacking in compassion, who can fluidly pontificate on Twitter about kindness but are unable to actually show kindness. People whose social media lives are case studies in emotional aridity. People for whom friendship, and its expectations of loyalty and compassion and support, no longer matter. People who claim to love literature – the messy stories of our humanity – but are also monomaniacally obsessed with whatever is the prevailing ideological orthodoxy. People who demand that you denounce your friends for flimsy reasons in order to remain a member of the chosen puritan class.

People who ask you to ‘educate’ yourself while not having actually read any books themselves, while not being able to intelligently defend their own ideological positions, because by ‘educate,’ they actually mean ‘parrot what I say, flatten all nuance, wish away complexity.’

People who do not recognize that what they call a sophisticated take is really a simplistic mix of abstraction and orthodoxy – sophistication in this case being a showing-off of how au fait they are on the current version of ideological orthodoxy.

People who wield the words ‘violence’ and ‘weaponize’ like tarnished pitchforks. People who depend on obfuscation, who have no compassion for anybody genuinely curious or confused. Ask them a question and you are told that the answer is to repeat a mantra. Ask again for clarity and be accused of violence. (How ironic, speaking of violence, that it is one of these two who encouraged Twitter followers to pick up machetes and attack me.)

And so we have a generation of young people on social media so terrified of having the wrong opinions that they have robbed themselves of the opportunity to think and to learn and to grow.

I have spoken to young people who tell me they are terrified to tweet anything, that they read and re-read their tweets because they fear they will be attacked by their own. The assumption of good faith is dead. What matters is not goodness but the appearance of goodness. We are no longer human beings. We are now angels jostling to out-angel one another. God help us. It is obscene.”

https://www.chimamanda.com/

>> No.18465035

>>18465032
dnrd a single iota

>> No.18465051

>>18465032
Jesus just don't use twitter?

>> No.18465062

>>18465051
read the entire website dumb dumb
she took a young writer under her wing who later threw her under the bus and sabotaged her career for not being woke enough on trans issues and accused her of “murder”

>> No.18465076

>>18465062
>not being woke enough on trans issues
but I thought African Americans place higher on the minority scale?

>> No.18465084

>>18465076
No longer

>> No.18465088
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>>18465062
She shouldn't associate with woke'ists.
>Get woke go broke

>> No.18465135

>>18465076
>>18465062
Chimamanda is a based TERF and has spoken out eloquently against the tranny menace.

>> No.18465148

>>18465135
Is she still uber woke about race and gender or does she extend this same inclination towards charity to those subjects as well?

>> No.18465153

Not based, eating their own. This woman was part of the annoying "feminist" movement of the 2010s and called everyone racist. Also, twitter has always been garbage and people who use it should be purged from society like Trump.

>> No.18465165

>>18465135
>Chimamanda
I read that as Chimpamanda and thought you were joking for a sec.

>> No.18465172

>>18465135
Can we get a TERF chart? I don’t read women but I want to know which ones are based and redpilled

>> No.18465178

>>18465153
Exactly. The Twitterati and Twitter itself is a scourge on intellectual curiosity. No discussion can be had without retards butting in to whine about some irrelevant detail.

>> No.18465186

>>18465153
The difference is that women and all races deserve rights. Trannys need therapy.

>> No.18465230

I don’t care, over-socialised people will be over-socialised.

>> No.18465238

Lotta words to say virtue signaling gay

>> No.18465250

>>18465186
lol, no.

>> No.18465256

>>18465186
Theyre all 3 the exact same ideology 'everyone is the same'

>> No.18465264

>>18465172
I have trouble respecting TERFs, who were totally fine with all of this woke ideology and oppression olympics stuff until women stopped being the ones who benefited from it the most. I see the rise of transwomen and the like as the natural progression of feminism. When a social movement wins but keeps going, it will begin to champion smaller and stranger groups of people.

>> No.18465265

>>18465250
>>18465256
Seek help trannies. Cutting your dicks off won’t bring you happiness.

>> No.18465301

>nigga finds out about a thesaurus for the first time

>> No.18465309

>>18465265
I hate trannies too, retard.

>> No.18465318

>>18465265
Thinking that men and women or the races are the same is just as delusional as thinking that you are a guy in a girls body. It's even the same genre of delusion based around equality and 'socially constructed identity'

>> No.18465461

>>18465318
They are no where the same retard. Trannies are defined by their mental illness while race IQ is based on AVERAGES which misleads poltards to conclude every african is inferior. We can do the same shit between people who live in the city and who live in the country and claim all ruralist as morons.

>> No.18465474

>>18465318
Being the same is not the same as both having rights, what are you on about?

>> No.18465497

>>18465461
Race and sex are defined by genetics, the races and sexes are definitionally distinct. Transgenders claim they have a female/male mind, feminists claim men and women have the same mind, antiracists that the races have the same mind. In all 3 cases the same claim of equality is being made counter to available evidence and without providing for itself any evidence.

>> No.18465507

>>18465474
Feminists and antiracists claim they are the same, hence affirmative action, which is opposed to equal rights.

>> No.18465527

>>18465032
Finally a negress who appreciates the White man's gift of literacy and civilization.

>> No.18465532

>>18465507
Not really

>> No.18465547

>>18465532
Yes really. Affirmative action is based on noting disparities between races/sexes and claiming that they must be due to oppression because the races/sexes are the same, so AA is needed to balance the scales. If they are not the same then the disparities are explained and there is no need for AA.

>> No.18465558

>>18465547
This is very black and white thinking.

>> No.18465580

>>18465558
You dont appear to be explaining how I'm wrong though. This is in fact the fundamental chain of logic used to defend AA, it's not like this is a secret.

>> No.18465589

>>18465547
I'm as rascist as they come but you have to consider affirmative action a teleological suspension of ethics from their perspective.

>> No.18465606

>>18465497
I can't imagine being this retarded

>> No.18465616

>>18465032
>social-media-savvy people
cool it with the antisemitic remarks

>> No.18465625

>>18465606
You can't imagine making an actual argument either apparently

>> No.18465653
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>>18465625
Yes. I don't argue with poltards

>> No.18465694

>>18465653
Very ironic considering this thread is about a woman decrying her opponents' unwillingness to actually engage in discourse.

>> No.18465698

>>18465694
Start with the greeks

>> No.18465704

>>18465698
The Greeks were well aware that men and women and races were different

>> No.18465729

>>18465704
kek and filtered

>> No.18465772

>>18465729
Embarrassing.

>> No.18465785

>>18465580
Are you saying oppression has contributed to no inequality in the world whatsoever?

>> No.18465788

Who is this and why should i care about her?

>> No.18465802
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>>18465772

>> No.18465892

>>18465788
one of the most famous contemporary authors in the world

>> No.18465894

>>18465785
No I think it definitely has, and even now I'm sure it plays a role, but given the existence of AA for 60 years I can't say I find it that plausible that it's discrimination causing the disparities at this point. Of course it still could be, one can't be sure about issues this complex and hard to measure.

One thing people dont think about enough is that discrimination will often appear specifically because there is a real difference, so it compounds the problem. If you're a member of a group who on average have x tendency you'll be unfairly judged even if you don't have it yourself.

>> No.18465966

>>18465264
TERFs have actually drawn a line in the sand, though. it's the reactionary-type feminist who gets dragged down the slippery slope

>> No.18465992

>>18465301
Imagine getting assblasted over simple words

>> No.18466006

>>18465894
>the existence of AA for 60 years
This says nothing about how widely or how well it has been implemented. AA may not even be the best way to tackle past oppression. I think you’re too prone to jump from one end of thinking to the opposite.
I agree with your second paragraph in theory, though we probably have different views of what it means in practice.

>> No.18466012

>>18466006
What do you think would tackle past oppression? If they had some example of a strategy that had evidence it worked I'd be all for it.

>> No.18466076

>>18465802
you got utterly btfo bitch

>> No.18466083

>>18466012
No idea.

>> No.18466086

>>18465992
>nigga that used transmogrify in his last essay

>> No.18466141

>>18465461
Averages don't even determine what is most common or general, why does no one ever mention, mode. /Pol/ is retarded.

>> No.18466158

>>18465186
they already have rights

>> No.18466176

>>18466141
Because iq is a bell curve...

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18466303

>>18465032
Actually based thank you anon. I think this gets at the core of this whole shit and the reason why so much polemicism took place in its modern form. in irl, some of the most sjw people I know are the worst in a personal to person space. snide and self important. Ready at a moments notice to ascribe something to a vague yet miopic social phenomenon rather that treating people as people first rather than demographs. Lacking in an essential good will.

Of course, not that those wider social phenomenon's are not a thing, just that its a particular venue of things in a macroscale that is best understood with various other pieces of context rather than reduced to an insipid singularity. I actually really jive with some good "Social justice" authors who actually see this ,and try to understand how things are instead of accusing and building a partially true stawman, and usuing its partial true to sustain a bad faith narritive. Its really hard for me because I appreciate aspects of social justice movements, but it largely feels like slime whos very conceptualization is based on antithesis rather than a purer wider empathy for various parties involved. Shitty praxis for the assertation of a good, that necissarily, rather than circumstantially REQUIRES a boggyman to servive. Its not that there isnt unfairness out there, but its that the conceptualization WILL find unfairness regardless. It has its thesis already preset before engaging in the reseach or exploring differences in ontology.

And I feel people who have recognized this slimeyness, but were not introspective enough to exactly pinpoint it, went to the extreme opposite in reaction, at first in jest, and then in some regards in actuality, which is just as infuriating. In some respects CREATING the bogyman they wanted so desperately to fight. And them playing right into it. Unironically i think 95% of /pol/tards would not be poltards, and just milktoast centrist swing liberals if SJW or whatever you want to call them didnt have the subtly and nuance of a jackhammer in their decent goals. Its a fucking manifest truth.

I think I personally first felt it when I was in grade school and there was a headline "Black boy got shoot". I thought, why not just say "Boy" got shot? if later on in the investigation it might turn out to be racially motivated, fine, but its assumed a prioi its because he is black. And in a way, saying as such makes it a manifest, apodictic retroactive truth socially rather than a well founded, well rounded one. As if something in the very color was the cause and not a contextual one with a variety of factors, and a potential, main one maybe being a racial bias.

>> No.18466329

>>18465032
Wtf I love black people now

>> No.18466354

>>18465032
Nigerians are eternally the most based of all nationalities. So this isn't surprising.

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18466430

>>18466076
sneed and seethe

>> No.18466446

>>18466430
keep acting nonchalant buck
you've been broken

>> No.18466481

>>18466430
Formerly Chucks