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any non-frenchies here who speak and read french? how did you learn it until you got to a level where you could read french lit?

>> No.18489603

>>18487892
duolingo than went straight to french lit with an online dictionary and google. Not the best way to go about it admittedly since duolingo is trash, but I'm able to read Baudelaire who is my favorite poet now.

>> No.18489618

>>18487892
I took 6 semesters of it in high school, and only began to take it seriously during semester 5 when my MILF french teacher told me to take books from her mini library in the back of the room, and continued to read in it and listen to it throughout uni.

>> No.18490761

>>18489603
cool, I should do that too. thanks
>>18489618
I also took french in school for about 3 years but don't remember much of it despite having good grades.

>> No.18490835

I used various ways (Duolingo, similar apps, Anki...), but I never really used the language itself. I'm installing Fallout 4 to play it in French.

>> No.18491097

>>18487892
Well I'm still pretty bad at it but Michel Thomas, Babbel, Duolingo and Memrise have all been used.

>> No.18492052

bump

>> No.18492896

>>18487892
bumping too, I'm able to recognise random quotes if I put myself to it but reading novels still is a pain, impossible without checking words every sentence. Barely know any grammar, couldn't tell apart most tenses.

>> No.18493297

>>18487892
Please don't harm yourself by reading before you've listened enough to have a right pronunciation in mind. Otherwise you're gonna internally impose your begginer-tier pronunciation on the text and thus acquire an accent you can NEVER LOSE.

>> No.18493299

>>18487892
Used duolingo as well as listening to music and other auditory media, then started with French harry potter and a notebook. Usually I would write ten words I didn't recognize each chapter, or if a word kept coming up I'd research it. Also helps if you listen to the audio voice over of harry potter as you read along. You can also this with basically any entry level/children's lit if you can find q French translation. Alternatively you could start with French lit like le Rouge et le noir, but you may be frustrated with how long it takes to have a basic understanding. my advice is you keep reading even if you don't understand, try to infer what certain words mean. If you stop on every word you don't understand it will be awful for you.

>> No.18493427

>>18489618
Post pics of milf teacher

>> No.18493496

>>18493297
Underrated advice. This actually happened to me. I severely neglected listening and speaking and ended up being a pretty good reader but a poor listener.

I eventually sorted it out, but it took extra time. Just do it correctly from the beginning.

>> No.18493516

>>18493297
>>18493496
I'll shill some good content:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3wJPerjTgeU

>> No.18493529

OP, listen to >>18493297, for real.

>> No.18493540

>>18493516
Every time I think this guy’s a fraud, I realize that he’s genuinely just one of the most talented people on YouTube. No joke.

>> No.18493597

>>18493516
thanks man.I had no ideia this existed.

>> No.18493651

>>18493540
I haven't watched it yet, but I want to say that he looks like a serial rapist. But even if he is huge thanks to him for doing something like this.

>> No.18493675

>>18487892
I can read French well enough; the furthest back in time I've gone so far has been 19th century texts. I did it by completing the Duolingo tree, then watched a single podcast, and finally jumped right into French literature. Stared with something easy, Camus, and then moved on to other authors. I was able to read Victor Hugo a while ago and understand almost everything without a dictionary.

>> No.18493679

>>18493675
which podcast, good sir?

>> No.18493712

>>18493679
Innerfrench. The guy who does it is a pretty good teacher; amazingly enough I can understand every word he says. He speaks of a wide array of subjects, slow enough to be understood but not quite enough to be condescending. As you go in deeper and deeper he starts getting faster so gradually you don't even realize it. He also has some interviews now and then with other French speakers which are more difficult. I cannot recommend him enough; after getting familiar enough with the basic grammar and acquiring some vocabulary he gave me the confidence to start reading on my own. He even includes a script of his podcasts in case you ever get lost.
I'm not a shill, I swear, he did really help me that much.

>> No.18493733

>>18493516
>>18493712
Thanks for sharing these. I’ve been using Duolingo and wondering about other resources I can expand to once I get a somewhat decent foundation.

>> No.18493849

>>18493733
Good luck on your endeavors, anon. With a an attitude as positive as yours you shouldn't have any trouble learning, specially if you couple it with regularity and rigor. An hour a day of exposure will do wonders in surprisingly little time.

>> No.18493880

>>18493516
>>18493540
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NyBp501lntU
wtf in his intro video he claims to
- "change his vision back to 20/20
- "was able to learn the japanese language within a matter of month
Think this guy might be a fraud after all

>> No.18493998

>>18493880
On /fit/ there is always a schizo eye improvement thread up. Never tried it, but there are some anons that swear by it.
And about learning Japanese in a matter of months, you have to see what he means by learning it. But you can definitely go to a pretty high level if you know what you are doing and spend various hours per day.
Anyway, all the info I got from his channel can be backed up by other sources so I'm not very anxious about it.

>> No.18494011

>>18493880
his latin videos are great though

>> No.18494065

>>18487892
Learn the whole grammar
Learn pronunciation rules with IPA
Then read books while flipping a dictionary thrice every line
This is the only right way to learn a language.
>Duolingocucks and Amerimutts need not apply.

>> No.18494073

>>18494065
Any good resource to learn IPA?

>> No.18494092

The more exposure you get the better. While grammar can be an excellent starting point, as soon as you get the gist of it what you need to do is learn the same way you learnt English as a child. Read, listen, write and speak. Over and over again, make it a habit, make it so that it doesn't feel like a duty but a pleasure. Combine your own interests with the language.

>> No.18494096
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18494096

Brazilian here. Got admitted to Ecole polytechnique without speaking French, so for my first-period internship, they just sent me to a FSL school. There I studied the language all day and was hosted by a French family, so I learned pretty quickly. Besides, French and Portuguese share a lot of their grammar and word roots, so it wasn't that hard.

At the Ecole I don't have much time to read, so I still haven't gotten to any actual French litterature, but I did read a book of American short stories translated to French. I plan to do a Balzac next, and some other things this summer.

>> No.18494110

>>18494096
we don't want you monkeys here

>> No.18494117

>>18494110
You guys prefer the African ones, correct?

>> No.18494147

>>18494110
I'll kkkkkk at you when you become my employee, Frenchy

>> No.18494175

>>18494110
Jamal, be nice

>> No.18494178

>>18489603
How long did that take you?

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18494604

>>18493427

>> No.18495784

>how did you learn it until you got to a level where you could read french lit?

I studied it weekly for two years straight, sometimes having classes 5 days a week for one/two months. Worth it.

>> No.18495811

>>18494110
Pierre, you know your country is basically done and there's no hope for it. Just accept your irrelevance and be done with it.

>> No.18495910

>>18494110
no, only the explosive ones hehe

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18496923

>>18487892
Started learning French when I was about 12, didn't really obtain a high level until a couple years ago. My technique was just to read texts in the original and in translation at the same time, look up any words I had semantic doubts about, and repeat. Took months for me to develop a serious vocabulary but I can read and understand about 90% of anything I read now. The other 10% is just daily language study I do after I read. The biggest thing for me though was listening. Once I started listening to French 1-2 hours a day, I felt like I was actually taking on the language as my own. I've read some of the major French poets and novelists. One of the best decisions I made was taking this language seriously. Basically endless literary adventure.