/lit/ - Literature

[Anonymous No.18504963]

>>18488024 #
Mini-"to the lighthouse"
Thank you book binder anon for the inspiration
ITT your homemade books

[Anonymous No.18504964]

>>18504963

[Anonymous No.18505763]

Nice, I'm thinking of making a mini-Ecclesiastes myself.

[Anonymous No.18505775]

>>18504963
Can I pay you to do this for me?

[Anonymous No.18505925]

Any tutorials online on how to make these?

[Anonymous No.18506023]

>>18505925
Click the linked thread in the OP

[Anonymous No.18506064]

It's cute, but it serves no practical purpose, reading very small books is a pain in the ass

[Anonymous No.18506168]

>>18504963
How long did it take you to do this? I was on the original thread, but I missed the sequel (reading it right now)

[Anonymous No.18506429]

>>18506064
I'm doing it as an optical illusion to women to make me seem bigger

[Anonymous No.18506492]

>posting your fingertips on the internet

Thanks.
Kind regards,
Joshua Shekelstein

[Anonymous No.18507393]

>>18504963
I would like to do a lot of those but I could not understand the programing/edition part in the bookbinder anon explication :C

[Anonymous No.18507396]

>>18507393
But I tought now that I only need to make the first page side with the last, and the second page with the second last onward right ? I could make it manually I guess.

[Anonymous No.18507827]

>>18507393
I'm in the process of making a webpage where you can convert a given pdf to the appropriate format. I'll post the link in this thread if it's still up.

[Anonymous No.18509129]

>>18507827
Based I will wait anon. Bump.

[Anonymous No.18509676]

>>18509129
I'm sorry anon, this will take longer than anticipated. I'm not that well versed in web and, despite being at it for a few hours, setting up the proper stack to run pdf manipulation libraries on a server made me realize how much of a clusterfuck the web is. I'll just clean OP's code and make an installer with a nice little GUI for you guys (open source of course). I'll drop it either in this thread or something similar enough. I'm curious to know how the web side of it works though so I'll continue banging my head against that wall tonight.

[Anonymous No.18510867]

Boomp

[Anonymous No.18511820]

Bump

[Anonymous No.18511851]

Leather one in the middle is Men, Beasts, Gods bound in leather with illustrations by Guadalupe Posada. Ones on the end are Mon Live d'Heures by Frans Masereel.

[Anonymous No.18511860]

Reading through the linked thread and, wow, tiny book anon is a hero. I can't wait to try making some tiny books myself.

>>18511851
Close up of the signatures in Men, Beasts, Gods. I'm very proud of this one.

[Anonymous No.18511871]

Here's some chapbooks I've made. I staple together folios of five pages, then trim a tiny bit off the margin. Afterwards I staple all the folios together and print out a cover that I glue onto the book. It works nicely for making cheap books with less than 100 pages. The one on the left was really fun to work with, the story behind it is that a Japanese lord bought a microscope from the Netherlands in the late 1800s and tried to create a catalogue of every kind of snowflake.

[Anonymous No.18511881]

>>18511871
Pic related is an interior from a copy (not mine). Apparently these figures are still really popular in the Japanese textile industry.

[Anonymous No.18511940]

>>18507827
>>18509676
Extremely based. Thanks anon, I'll be making use of it when you're done.

[Anonymous No.18511960]

>>18511851
Good looking books. Tried paper marbling a couple of times but couldn't get the paint to stick on the paper good enough

[Anonymous No.18511984]

>>18506492
those are nice nails

[Anonymous No.18511994]

>>18511960
Thanks anon. I got really lucky and bought a bunch of decorative cloth for really cheap (20$ a spool) at a leather shop I used to frequent. It adds a lot of personality to the books I find, originally it was for wallpaper I believe.

And thats really cool. I've never tried marbling before but I'd like to get into it. Any advice for good resources? Last summer I was making paper a lot and I found that if I put dried herbs, crushed cinnamon, fragrant oils, etc. I could add an olfactory element to the process. Someday I'd like to make a series of books where the smell of the cover invokes sensations of the book-- a smell of sea water for Moby Dick, fine incense for 1001 Nights, and so on. Only problem is its really hard to make paper that doesn't crack when it bends. I've yet to find a solution for this.

[Anonymous No.18512002]

>>18511994
>Any advice for good resources?
Sorry, it was some years ago so I don't remember, besides I wasn't very successful with it.
>Someday I'd like to make a series of books where the smell of the cover invokes sensations of the book-- a smell of sea water for Moby Dick, fine incense for 1001 Nights, and so on
Great idea, hope you can realize it

[Anonymous No.18512011]

Do original translations count?
>>/lit/thread/S18477402

[Anonymous No.18512014]

>>18512002
Fair enough. Still its cool to play around with things like that. If you ever get back into paper marbling make a thread about it here it would be fun to see.

[Anonymous No.18512051]

To anyone who likes the idea of making your own books I will recommend to read a story called Ascendance of a Bookworm.

It's just a light novel, so not exactly high art or anything, but it's a fun story about making books.

[Anonymous No.18512251]

>>18504963
>>18504964
What fabric are you using for the cover? Very cool OP.

[Anonymous No.18512933]

>>18509676
No problem anon, keep it up. :D

[Anonymous No.18512969]

Anyone in favor of a Bookcraft general?

[Anonymous No.18513906]

>>18512969
yes please
could gift handmades to friends or even start to leave around public places

[Anonymous No.18514010]

>>18504963

[Anonymous No.18514222]

>>18511871
>>18511881
Very cool!

[Anonymous No.18514232]

>>18512011
Where can I find the Italian original?

[Anonymous No.18514243]

>>18512969
>>18513906
Yeah, just had an idea to make a microbook for a friend of mine. I wanted to borrow her a book, but it's honestly old and fragile, so maybe I'll make her one in the style of tiny book anon.

[Anonymous No.18514561]

>>18514232
http://digituno.unior.it/files/original/b4252f99b3e1a9d4ee1f4b3c9b88e623.pdf

[Anonymous No.18514734]

>>18504963
Do you need a two sided printer to make on of these? I'm guessing you do.
>>18509676
based, thank you anon.

[Anonymous No.18514753]

>>18514734
You only need a one sided printer. You can take the paper then print on the other side; in fact, that's what the instructions say to do.

[Anonymous No.18514771]

>>18514753
I'm stupid, thank you anon I'll give this a shot too then.

[Anonymous No.18514785]

>>18506064
>serves no practical purpose
What is art?

[Anonymous No.18515166]

>>18514561
>http://digituno.unior.it/files/original/b4252f99b3e1a9d4ee1f4b3c9b88e623.pdf
Damn, I don't have a pass for that :(

[Anonymous No.18515328]

>>18515166
My bad, it wasn't password protected before. Theres a copy on archive.org:
https://archive.org/details/la-guerra-italiana-vista-da-un-giapponese_202011

Or you can buy the English version on Lulu for the same price as a burger and fries:
https://www.lulu.com/en/us/shop/harukichi-shimoi-and-michael-paz/the-italian-war-as-seen-by-a-japanese/paperback/product-megpyn.html?page=1&pageSize=4

[Anonymous No.18515651]

>>18511940
>>18512933
>>18514734
Finished making a GUI application.
It's the .jar file in the zip. All you need to run it is java installed on your system. The source is also included in case you want to look at what you're installing and don't trust anons on the web.
In the future, I'd like the software to crop the pages and arrange them so that we don't have to mess with print options (Z layout, etc.), so be on the lookout for that if you're interested.

https://filebin.net/l8tuf4brsxaqelub

Also I haven't tested it on windows so do tell if you encounter any problems, but it should work fine if you have the latest version of Java.

[Anonymous No.18515681]

>>18504963
https://pastebin.com/ZY66a8PU
I compiled Tiny Book Anon's posts into pastebin so I can reference it later, posting here for any anons that might find useful

[Anonymous No.18515702]

>>18515681
>>18515651
Corrected some mistakes and added link to anons pdf converter thing
https://pastebin.com/TAbt99Pz

[Anonymous No.18515703]

>>18515651
Here's what it looks like.
Also, if you're on an old computer or the pdf is unusually large, it can take a few seconds to be done after you convert and save to file.

[Anonymous No.18515706]

>>18515651
>>18515681

[hungryman !!5BI0oSV9uvS No.18515714]

>>18515706
Holy Reddit, are all these posts because summer?

[Anonymous No.18515720]

>>18512011
I bought this
you're welcome

[Anonymous No.18515737]

>>18515328
>https://archive.org/details/la-guerra-italiana-vista-da-un-giapponese_202011
Thanks! This works like a charm
In fact, I'm wondering how you could get into the site of UniOrientale without a pass.

[Anonymous No.18515771]

>>18515714
Let me be nostalgic newfag.

>>18515720
Thanks friendo. Its people like you that help keep me unemployed.

>>18515737
I wish I knew anon. I'd bookmarked this link from almost a year ago and they must have put up a paywall since then. In general I haven't had much luck getting into European e-libraries, I had a similar problem looking for Max Ernst's Une semaine de bonté and the only place that has it is a German site that's hidden university access only and won't respond to any of my emails.

[Anonymous No.18515820]

>>18515771
>wish I knew anon. I'd bookmarked this link from almost a year ago and they must have put up a paywall since then.
It isn't so much a "real" paywall, as it is "only" a site accessible only to students/professors of *that* particular university. And this is not something recent, it was already like this since I first enrolled in college (2010 or so). Btw, how did you translate the book into English? I guess that you know Italian?
t. Italian

[Anonymous No.18515850]

>>18515771
Damn, it seems I found a free, no pass link to the same book on the University site anyway

http://digituno.unior.it/document/994

Go figure.

[Anonymous No.18515912]

>>18515820
>It isn't so much a "real" paywall, as it is "only" a site accessible only to students/professors of *that* particular university. And this is not something recent, it was already like this since I first enrolled in college (2010 or so).
Its a real shame how much information is locked up behind arbitrary barriers like that. If you're not enrolled in the right university its like you're completely cut off from a massive amount of historical information and research papers. There's no excuse for it either, given how easy it is to share information these days

>Btw, how did you translate the book into English? I guess that you know Italian?
I actually don't lol. Much of it was done with a translating software, then I went through and did a copious amount of editing and looking up individual words in the dictionary. I do know French, Spanish, and Latin, so it's not like I was working blind, I've read books in Italian before just through background knowledge of other Romance languages and free association, but it would be hard for me to have a conversation in it. Apparently Ezra Pound did the same thing for Chinese poetry.

>>18515850
How about that, weird. I'm sure that it was open access when I bookmarked the page.

[Anonymous No.18515965]

>>18515912
>Its a real shame how much information is locked up behind arbitrary barriers like that. If you're not enrolled in the right university its like you're completely cut off from a massive amount of historical information and research papers. There's no excuse for it either, given how easy it is to share information these days
Yeah, I agree, I wasn't justifying it, just telling you how it is. Also, I mean, that particular book was printed more than 100 years ago, even if the copyright hasn't expired (which I doubt) the present-day heirs probably barely know that their great-grandpa was in Italy during WWI.

>I actually don't lol. Much of it was done with a translating software, then I went through and did a copious amount of editing and looking up individual words in the dictionary. I do know French, Spanish, and Latin, so it's not like I was working blind, I've read books in Italian before just through background knowledge of other Romance languages and free association, but it would be hard for me to have a conversation in it.
Ah, cool. Yes, with those three you can probably understand a good 95% of any text in Italian

>Apparently Ezra Pound did the same thing for Chinese poetry.
For real? This sounds way harder

[Anonymous No.18516044]

>>18515965
>Yeah, I agree, I wasn't justifying it, just telling you how it is. Also, I mean, that particular book was printed more than 100 years ago, even if the copyright hasn't expired (which I doubt) the present-day heirs probably barely know that their great-grandpa was in Italy during WWI.
If my Japanese anime has taught me anything, its that Samurai families are a bunch of out-of-touch rich kids who own a scroll detailing their family's achievements for the last thousand years. But yeah, copyright is the author's lifetime+70 years so there's no excuse for sticking stuff from WW1 behind a paywall.

>Ah, cool. Yes, with those three you can probably understand a good 95% of any text in Italian
Yeah, ironically what trips me up most is the super simple words. particles and pronouns and so on. Once you get into any word with three or more syllables it's almost guaranteed to be identical to a word meaning the same thing in English or Latin.

>For real? This sounds way harder
Apparently he had studied Japanese, so he could understand basic Kanji and particles. Chinese is a weird language in that you can know how to read without having a single idea of how to speak it, and apparently there are a ton of different dialects in China which are mutually unintelligible but they all use the same writing system. That said I've heard Pound's translations are considered quite bad by most Oriental scholars today.

[Anonymous No.18516113]

>>18516044
>But yeah, copyright is the author's lifetime+70 years so there's no excuse for sticking stuff from WW1 behind a paywall.
Wiki says he died in 1954, so technically still copyrighted (but we found a free scan anyway). But again, it was published 100+ years ago, they literally have ONE copy in that one university because the dude taught there. It seems they reprinted it in a monography in 2018, and the site which lists all the libraries in my country lists one (1) copy of this reprint.
Also good luck finding the heirs and sending them like 1€ worth of rights.

>Yeah, ironically what trips me up most is the super simple words. particles and pronouns and so on. Once you get into any word with three or more syllables it's almost guaranteed to be identical to a word meaning the same thing in English or Latin.
Makes sense, also Italian has lots of those small particles (ci, ne, si may be difficult to understand without actually speaking the language, they have at least 3 or 4 different meanings depending on context)

>Apparently he had studied Japanese, so he could understand basic Kanji and particles. Chinese is a weird language in that you can know how to read without having a single idea of how to speak it, and apparently there are a ton of different dialects in China which are mutually unintelligible but they all use the same writing system.
I remember seeing a video in which they showed Chinese sentences/words to Japanese people, they somewhat understood basic things but not the whole meaning (="something with cat, eat, fish and lake, but was the cat who ate the fish or the fish that ate the cat?")

>That said I've heard Pound's translations are considered quite bad by most Oriental scholars today.
Not surprising

[Anonymous No.18516169]

>>18515651
>https://filebin.net/l8tuf4brsxaqelub
Thank you baste programmer

[Anonymous No.18516706]

>>18515328
>>18515651
>>18515681
>>18515702
>>18515703
Bless you anon. I'm gonna try making some tiny books right now.

[Anonymous No.18516741]

>>18515651
>>18515702
Thank you anon, these have been the best threads we've had in this board in a long time.

[Anonymous No.18516769]

Small bookbinder anon here. I'm so happy to see many anons enthusiastic about making mini books!
>>18504963
Your book is beautiful. I hope my instructions weren't too hard to follow.
>>18515702
Thank you for archiving my text and formatting it for easier reading.
>>18515651
>>18515651
>>18515651
And special thanks to you, anon. I'm only an amateur at computer programming (the algorithm to rearrange the PDF is more computer science, which I'm better at), so I am truly grateful you made a GUI app for all anons to enjoy.

[Anonymous No.18516786]

This is a good thread.

[Anonymous No.18518070]

>>18516786
Bump

[Anonymous No.18518267]

>>18514222
Thanks anon. Here's a peak at the interior, I'm making a couple more copies for fun. The calligraphy that makes up the authors scientific notes is as beautiful as the snowflake drawings are.

>>18516786
A very good thread indeed.

[Anonymous No.18519931]

bump

[Anonymous No.18520840]

[Anonymous No.18521704]

>>18518267
I don't think I've ever saw that kind of "cursive" Japanese. Interesting
The whole "Microscope + drawing" idea reminds of my grandpa, he used to draw bacteria he observed in water drops. I probably have his notebooks somewhere (I miss him so much)

>>18516769
I haven't tried yet, but I'm planning to! You actually inspired me and many others

To everybody: Any advice on what short (<100 pages) book I should print? For obvious reasons I'd prefer something relevant and that I don't already own.