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[Anonymous No.18539959]

I have disavowed the left and would like to learn more about Fascism and the Third Position. Besides Mosley, Evola, Hitler, Gentile, who else should I read? Leftists need not post in this thread.

[Anonymous No.18539977]

Evola wasn't a fascist.
Anything that Mussolini wrote is better than what Hitler could even imagine, so I'd say go with that too.

[Anonymous No.18540133]

>>18539959
Fascism is dead and cringe start with the neo reactionaries. Start with but don’t end with Moldbug and expand from there.

[Anonymous No.18540140]

>>18540133
Neoreaction is top tier cringe

[Anonymous No.18540154]

>>18540133
>>18540140
both of these are cringe. invent your own shit and call it "Ultra Autism".

[Anonymous No.18540164]

Ideologies are cringe desu.

[Anonymous No.18540186]

>>18539959
Henri de Man, Georges Valois, Ugo Spirito, Jose Antonio Primo De Rivera, Maurice Bardèche

[Anonymous No.18540200]

>>18540164
Everybody has an ideology

[Anonymous No.18540204]

>>18540200
Sneed

[Anonymous No.18540207]

>>18540164
Yes

[Anonymous No.18540216]

>>18540133
>start with the neo reactionaries
start with the French New Right, and Alain de Benoist specifically.

[Anonymous No.18540224]

>>18539959
Evola wasn't a fascist. Also, seconding this >>18540186. Cornelius Codreanu (For My Legionaries) is also worth looking into.

Fascism is organic, so it does manifest itself differently - compare, for example, Codreanu against José Antonio. I welcome and hope you find your way, brother.

[Anonymous No.18540229]

>>18539959
Secondary sources are going to shed the most insight on what fascism's practitioners wanted it to be as well as what it actually was. Read James Gregor, Charles Maier, Paul Gottfried, David Roberts, and Zeev Sternhall's books on the subject. Comparative fascism is a useful field

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[Anonymous No.18540256]

>>18540200
Ideologies are secular religions.

[Anonymous No.18540270]

Imperium, Camp of Saints
>>18540256
National Socialism being religious in nature is one of its greatest strengths.

[Anonymous No.18540272]

>>18540256
This statement is itself a part of an ideology

[Anonymous No.18540296]

>Sternhell, Neither Left nor Right
>Gregor, The Ideology of Fascism
The more you know about leftism the more you will realize that fascism and third positionism are legitimate extensions of it. For the related thesis that fascism is modernism done right, not a return to tradition or mere reaction, and not totalitarianism, read Griffin, Modernism and Fascism. Also read about the movement called the conservative revolution.

For right-wing anticapitalism that combines the best of theory and praxis, read these four articles:
https://www.counter-currents.com/tag/breaking-the-bondage-of-interest/

And these if you want:
https://counter-currents.com/2014/10/kerry-boltons-the-banking-swindle/
https://counter-currents.com/2014/11/central-banking-and-human-bondage/

From there you can pretty much go anywhere. Some form of social credit or integralism, Italian fascism or national socialism, Falangism, Peronism, National Bolshevism. However I recommend that above all you read Samuel T. Francis, Leviathan and its Enemies. First read about Buchanan and Buchananism (he was his friend and advisor) and then read Francis' short article "From Household to Nation," then ideally learn a bit about Burnham's managerial class thesis and Mosca's and Pareto's "circulation of elites" theories (https://counter-currents.com/2018/04/the-ruling-class/)), then read Leviathan. It is a comprehensive guide to right-socialist populism to resist the coming war with the elites.

Another interesting thing to look into is Paul Piccone, who moved toward synthesizing the post-Soviet Left (not the New Left, which is progressive astroturf) with the New Right. I highly recommend this overview:
https://c2cjournal.ca/2009/06/where-marx-and-conservatives-meet-the-writings-of-paul-piccone/

I also recommend reading Christopher Lasch's Revolt of the Elites, possibly before reading Francis' Leviathan.

In terms of resisting the coming total war with capital, which is allying with all kinds of hideous technology oligarchs and has already allied with technology itself, the right is definitely the way to go. But there is nothing wrong with taking all the theory leftism has to offer if it's useful. French social theory is very useful for understanding technologies of control and how to break free of them and create counter-movements. Marxist theory is invaluable for understanding class warfare, it's just wrong about its Hegelian eschatology. The best Marxists and anarchists are very useful theorists of how to create and sustain praxis-oriented movements (Gramsci) and blanquist vanguards (Leninism), and Marxism has a century and a half of self-critique of these tendencies and their pitfalls that the right can learn a lot from. It's even best to understand fascism as a product of the failures of Marxism and the unresolved antinomies of the Second International. That's certainly how Mussolini, a Second International Marxist turned fascist, saw it.

[Anonymous No.18540313]

>>18539959
>would like to learn more about Fascism and the Third Position
https://www.academia.edu/10354251/_On_Fascism_by_Alain_de_Benoist

Innumerable definitions of Fascism have been proposed. The simplest is still the best: Fascism is a revolutionary political form, characterized by the fusion of three principal elements: a nationalism of the Jacobin type, a non-democratic socialism, and the authoritarian call to the mobilization of the masses.

At its foundation, Fascism is based upon the modern trilogy: State-People-Nation. All its effort is directed to making synonyms of these three terms, which are nowadays separated. Born over the sign of the Fasces, before anything else Fascism has wanted to appear like it. Thus it had wanted to bring together the social classes and the political families, opposed in another epoch, to consolidate the unity of the nation. This was at the same time its strength and its weakness. Obsessed by the unity, it has been the centralizer.

Pretending to avert the specter of civil war, it has engendered absolute hatreds, left as a fractured, irreparable heritage. Its Jacobinism, its subjective nationalism, is the source of all its failures: the one who tends to that unity necessarily excludes that one who does not allow himself to be driven to the unity.

That spirit of community, which has profoundly marked Fascism, does not permit Fascism to characterize it as its own. Fascism has not produced anything more than a particular version. In Fascism, the idea of community is vitiated by the conviction that that it must be animated and directed from the above, in a statist perspective, whereas a true community spirit is incompatible with statism.

The 20th century has without doubt been the century of Fascisms and of Communisms. Fascism was born of war and died in war. Communism was born of a political and social explosion and died in a political and social implosion. It could not have been Fascism if not in a given stage of the process of modernization and industrialization, a stage which now belongs to the past, at least in the countries of Western Europe. The time of Fascism and of Communism is finished.
In Western Europe, all “Fascism” today cannot be anything other than a parody. And the same occurs with the residual “anti-Fascism,” which responds to this phantasm with even more anachronistic words. It is because the time of the Fascisms has passed away that today it is possible to speak of it without moral indignation or complacent nostalgia, as one of the central pages of the history of the century which has just ended.

[Anonymous No.18540344]

>>18540229
Great post. Paul Gottfried's books are really useful for understanding why "conservatism" is a failed ideology that never gelled, and was soon parasitized by neocon crypto-progressives. Even the utopian paleoconservatism that never happened is open to critique, because it simply didn't anticipate the rise of the managerial class. Neocons weren't a historically contingent happening, they were a determinate function of managerial capitalism shifting gears into world domination mode after the last impediments to it, the fascist nations, were removed.

>>18540296
Adding to my post here. I also recommend reading The Beast Reawakens by Martin Lee. It will teach you how post-war right wing history works and also show you what flavors of crazy exist in subaltern movements.

The most valuable teaching it has, though, is that the Cold War has taught us all to see the world in terms of two axes: the Anglo-Sphere (Orwell's Oceania) and Eurasia. Europe itself is either vassalized or fought over by the other two in this understanding. But the fascists specifically wanted to create a "Third Space," with its own autarkic economic system, and its own way of life (European, organic, fascism) to survive against the dehumanized Anglo-American sphere and the dehumanized Soviet sphere. That is why WW2 was really fought (read Buchanan's book on the subject), and from Lee's book you will learn that after WW2, all the best minds were trying to create this space again. Finally the time might be right. Somehow Europe has just survived being raped by Anglo finance and Russian imperialism for 70 years.

>>18540313
Seconding this, highly recommend Benoist.

[Anonymous No.18540360]

>>18540296
>>18540313
Not OP, but good posts bros

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[Anonymous No.18540422]

>>18539959
Fascism is not the way to go, my friend. Read Leo Strauss and Alasdair MacIntyre instead.

[Anonymous No.18540452]

>>18539959
I would read the Ha-Joon Chang books first, as they are both quite short and easy to read. They basically critique the current narrative in economics and point to an alternative. He points out the flaws in the usual narrative about free market capitalism and shows how protectionism can be good. Free Trade Doesn't Work by Fletcher is a good companion book. Then read The Entrepreneurial State, which shows how the state plays a decisive role in economic development. Sombart is a good addition for your reading list too.

https://archive.org/details/economic-nationalism/page/5/mode/2up

[Anonymous No.18540465]

>>18540422
Strauss was an ardent Zionist who only allowed nationalism for Jews, and Straussian political theory after his death basically resolves into "liberal democracies are ideal because nothing is ideal but at least no one is killing Jews under this system." They just want to live under the Fatimids forever and be atheistic wise men behind the throne. Most are neocons. Gottfried has a book on them.

MacIntyre is fine but Catholicism is either compatible with fascism (many English and Irish Catholics flirted with it) or it's current liberal progressive capitalism which might as well be atheism. The new conservative Catholic movements are moving too slow and are dying at the mass movement level.

[Anonymous No.18540487]

>>18539959
>>18540422
Better yet start with the Greeks and just ditch the isms. Go Plato.

[Anonymous No.18540958]

>>18540465
it's hard to have "movement Catholic conservatism" when the West is <10% Christian of any denomination, let alone Catholic, in reality. The clergy being mostly left-wing doesn't help either...

[Anonymous No.18541182]

>>18539959
>disavowed the left
>still going towards socialism
Bro

[Anonymous No.18542108]

First hand account of the Italian front, author was friends with D'Annunzio and Mussolini.
Not really theoretical at all, but its a good primary source on what Italy was like at the time. The author thought fascism was just a logical extension of Italian unification and nation-building.

[Anonymous No.18542118]

>books about extremist opinion I have picked up
>anyone know any books about thing I already agree with
>can someone recommend books defending my latest zinger against well-adjusted people
>looking for books about the made up thing I want other people to buy into

[Anonymous No.18543060]

>>18542118
I said no leftists, dumb fuck

[Anonymous No.18543077]

>>18541182
Yes.

[Anonymous No.18543093]

>>18540224
>>18539977
http://www.fatuma.net/text/evola-autodifesa

> I have defended, and I still defend, “fascist ideas,” not inasmuch as they are “fascist” but in the measure that they revive ideas superior and anterior to Fascism. As such they belong to the heritage of the hierarchical, aristocratic, and traditional conception of the State, a conception having a universal character and maintained in Europe up to the French Revolution. In fact, the position that I have defended and continue to defend, as an independent man—because I have never been enrolled in any party, not in the PNF [Partito Nazionale Fascista], the PRF [Partito Repubblicano Fascista], or the MSI—should not be called “fascist” but traditional and counterrevolutionary.

>The kind of racism I have defended, far from being an “extremism,” belongs within the efforts I made, also in other fields, to rectify the ideas that were developing in a deviant direction in Fascism, as well as in National Socialism. Thus, I countered the racism that was materialistic and vulgarly anti-Semitic with a spiritual racism, introducing the concept of “race of the spirit” and developing an original doctrine on that basis.

ITS NOT FASCISM ITS SUPER FASCISM!~~~~

[Anonymous No.18543099]

>>18539959
>I have disavowed the left
>would like to learn more about Fascism and the Third Position
This is not how to disavow the left.

[Anonymous No.18543113]

>>18539959
Just watch murdoch murdoch's rabbit hole episode.
https://cheekyvideos.net/murdoch/The%20Rabbit%20Hole.html

[Anonymous No.18543119]

>>18539959
Read Hegel and Marx, read A. James Gregor

[Anonymous No.18543183]

>>18543060
You're just looking for new dogma. You'll never be a competent thinker if you don't remove this fear of 'wrongtthink'.

[Anonymous No.18543187]

you have to be over 18 to post on this website

[Anonymous No.18543201]

Read Naskar, his views are far out.

[Anonymous No.18543235]

>>18540344
>Crypto progressives
Anon the founders of neo conservatism in america were literally trotskyite initially kek

[Anonymous No.18543301]

>>18539959
Origin of Species
Imperium The Philosophy of History and Politics
The lightning and the sun was interesting and so was the ideas in William Pierce's Cosmotheism Trilogy

I would also look for anything on Cro-magnon and watch channels like Edward Dutton and Keith Woods

[Anonymous No.18544009]

>>18539959
look how happy they're standing next to uncle hitler