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Can depression really be cured or is it an inevitable part of some people's natures?

>> No.18569279

I had someone who worked as a mental health counselor once tell me that depression never actually goes away. I refused to believe it at the time but now I do think it’s unfortunately true. What you can do in light of that at least is 1) adapt 2) cope and 3) find some way to realize that things are worth it despite how depressing they might be.

>> No.18569294

>>18569279
Fuck all that gay shit. You literally just decide not to have it and it goes away. Once I realized how cringe it was and decided not to be depressed, I was no longer depressed. It’s maddeningly easy if you’re not addicted to self-pity.

>> No.18569307

>>18569294
>You literally just decide not to have it and it goes away.
I just don’t think it works that way. There’s probably a reason why you’re depressed and while you may be able to willfully ignore that reason and pretend it doesn’t exist, it does and as long as you’re aware of it, it can and probably will persist.

>> No.18569339

>>18569307
Being depressed and being sad because stuff sucks are not the same thing. If you understand what sucks, you can either do something about it or you can’t. Either way, you can live with it. It’s obsessing over your own misfortune that makes you depressed.

Anxiety and depression are caused by a lack of balance in the motivational factors: where fear of pain outweighs hope for fulfillment. It can become cyclic, sure, but the difference can be made by a literal conscious decision.

>> No.18569348

>>18569307
It's an obvious troll. If this nigga serious, he didn't have depression. He just felt bad or unknowingly changed his lifestyle in a way that assisted his problem and was too stupid to realize he actually helped himself.

>>18569279
This is correct.

>> No.18569354

>>18569294
Kek

>> No.18569359

Depression can also present itself in apathy which is hard to get rid of

>> No.18569363

>>18569339
Incredibly narrow view of depression/mental illness in general.
Classic "this was me so this is you too" mentality.

>> No.18569406

>>18569339
I don’t think that’s something you can universally say about it anxiety or depression.

Look, it doesn’t make me happy to say that I do think it’s forever. That’s a tough pill to swallow and I don’t want OP to suffer for it. Still, I think it would be better if I were honest with him and have him real opinions than tried to apply any sort of painting with a broad brush speculation on things which I don’t ultimately believe to be true. Yeah, I think there are a lot of things which can cause depression and many of those can be addressed and if not I eliminated completely than at least inhibited, but I still just believe that generally depression is a certain awareness about your life or the world and it’s an awareness of something that you really cannot change. You can just flee from it, or accept it and do the 3 things I mentioned.

>> No.18569417

>>18569359
I transformed chronic depression into apathy I think but then I also feel as though I’ve been apathetic for most of my life. I was 13 when I told my mom for the first time that I was bored with life and she reminds me of it all the time. She thinks it’s cute. I think it’s horrifying. I can agree that it’s harder to get rid of but I wonder if maybe that’s because it’s like a deeper sort of thing that’s there longer.

>> No.18569519

>>18569279
Here's another reminder that barely anyone in any thread on /lit/ actually knows what they're talking about and is instead relying on anecdote and midwit reasoning to propel their horseshit. It's abundantly clear depression can be cured from numerous studies of its treatment and the fact that anecdotes contrary to your teen depressive-realism exist, would you trust a pathologist specialising in bullet wounds to tell you that everyone dies from being shot?

>> No.18569547

>>18569519
I'm sorry. You must live a sad lonely life.

>> No.18569553

>>18569519
> muh studies
You should lobotomize yourself and not even because you’re wrong or pointed to studies but precisely because you replied to a statement of pure opinion, clearly, and responded not only as if it was a statement of objective fact but as if your abundant clearness actually refuted it a You are an idiot.

>> No.18569559

>>18569519
Also, we’ll take all those numerous studies whenever you’re ready.

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>>18569553
>You should lobotomize yourself
I can see from the way you type that you have taken your own advice.

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>>18569279

This guy has the best definition of depression I've heard (in the link below). He says it's basically caused by stressors that create a kind of learned helplessness when you're young. It's a case of the poor getting poorer because your sleep gets disrupted and you don't handle new stressors well.
>I've managed it in my life by eating lots of produce, meditating, keeping a strict routine, bright sunlight in the morning and near darkness after sundown.
If a person, place, or thing is dysfunctional cut it out. Always count your blessings and focus on interests that challenge you just enough that you can overcome.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NOAgplgTxfc

>> No.18569713

>>18569676
> I’ve managed it
So he copes?

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>>18569713
>> I’ve managed it
>So he copes?

I is me. I guess I don't really cope. I'm a reclusive NEET. I'm susceptible to stress and prone to irrational hatred over little things.
Though from doing the things I layed out, I don't feel that dragging undertow feeling in my chest and brain I used to feel.

>> No.18570105

>>18569268
Epicureanism
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