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I was raised catholic and the milk toast nature of the church and the creepy effeminate demeanour of most priests makes my skin crawl. The celebration of weakness and mourning is also one of the reasons i feel off put by these communities.

This being said i feel a great sense of disconnect with the modern world and am really craving connection to a community that has a sense of virtue and still respects beauty and being a better person. How do i find this alongside genuine masculine guidance. Are there gospels i can read that celebrate masculinity?
Or perhaps churches that are less depressing?

>> No.18621473

>milk toast


>> No.18621490

Orthodox chuch. watch out for the fake ones, like coptics , syryacs and such

>> No.18621520

Positive Christianity

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>> No.18621680

sensibly chuckled

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>> No.18621818

That's the whole point. Also the fact that you want to pick and choose a new religion like it's a buffet speaks volumes.

>> No.18621825

Can you explain?

Yeah i have thought about this but it would completely alienate me from my existing family and i also know so little about islam it wouldnt make sense to dive head first into an entirely different faith.

>> No.18621840

Actually looks tasty.

>> No.18621854

Volumes about what exactly?
I don't view it as a buffet and i'm not trying to pick a new religion. While i was raised catholic i was also brought up with the knowledge that it is the same god regardless of the religion and that coming to understand one's relationship with god takes many unexpected turns and is about a great deal more than merely ritual and if you eat fish on a friday or not.

This is about finding a community and a way to a better way to be in the world not about some petty tribalism.

>> No.18621858

>Can you explain?
The sect endorsed and basically created by the NSDAP

>Positive Christianity differed from mainstream Christianity in that positive Christianity:
>Rejected the Jewish-written parts of the Bible (including the entire Old Testament)
>Claimed "Aryanhood" and non-Jewishness for Christ
>Promoted the political objective of national unity, to overcome confessional differences, to eliminate Catholicism, and unite Protestantism into a single unitary positive Christian church[11]
>Also encouraged followers to support the creation of an Aryan Homeland
Obviously you won't be into this if you're not into the whole nazi thing

>> No.18621867

You don't believe in anything if you're so eager to find a new religion the moment your current one doesn't agree with you. Meekness is inherent to Christ and Christianity, have you not even read your religion's scriptures?

>> No.18621881

This is yet another reason i abhor dealing with christians. You preach about love and acceptance but use your faith as a mark of superiority and condescension. If you had any connection reality you would understand that there is a great deal more than simply pestering people or disapproving of their behaviour. Atheists are less insufferable.

>> No.18622083

You can start by reading this thread to learn more.
>The op was from a catholic family too

>> No.18622151

Read Might is Right. He BTFOs Christianity beyond repair. If you have even a small amount of brain left and are not completely brainwashed by this cuck doctrine, you won't have to do anything that has Christ name on it after that.

>> No.18622169

>Is there a less cucked version of Christianity?
No, it is a religion of cuckoldry.
>it is the same god regardless of the religion
Only if you go to another Abrahamic religion. If you leave Abrahamism behind, you can throw off the yoke of YHWH.

>> No.18622181

Judaism of course retard OP

>> No.18622206

Read the Old Testmant and stop trying to larp as a big tough man.

>> No.18622364

Its so frustrating how most people's spirituality (the few there are that are that way inclined- which is a big problem in itself in my books-), especially Christians, seems to depend on the community they want to be a part of. I understand we are social animals and what not but the whole point of spirituality is self transcendence. You should be looking for the truth. This is scriptural.
>seek and you shall find (matt)
>I love those who love me, and those who seek me diligently find me. (Proverbs 8:17)
>But from there you will seek the Lord your God and you will find him, if you search after him with all your heart and with all your soul. (Deuteronomy 4:29)
>The Lord is good to those who wait for him, to the soul who seeks him. (Lamentations)
Etc (https://www.openbible.info/topics/seeking_god).
You shouldn't be looking to be a part of something. What you will become a part of is a result of the seeking you will do.

That said, go back and read the bhagavad gita and the upanishads and stop being cucked by semitic weakness.

>> No.18622376

I’d say Orthodox Church but it doesn’t matter if it’s Eastern or Oriental. They’re both almost identical

>> No.18622381

>That said, go back and read the bhagavad gita and the upanishads and stop being cucked by semitic weakness.
Is becoming a fatalist the only alternative?

>> No.18622382

>milk toast
The state of LARPers

>> No.18622383

According to Judaism most Christians are going to heaven anyway https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seven_Laws_of_Noah. So there’s no reason to convert from Christianity to Judaism

>> No.18622391

I would tell you to just look into Orthodoxy since that’s really what you’re looking for but I can’t let it slide by without calling out the fact that you know, if you’re honest, that you’ve not read any scripture and neither have the people around you that you had so much as “milk toast” whatever. You know what you’re saying doesn’t even make sense, as if these people are the literal epitome of what? Catholicism? Cut me a break. It’s like assuming fitness is for fags because everyone in your little treadmill room happens to be gay.

>> No.18622431

>The LORD is my light and my salvation— whom shall I fear? The LORD is the stronghold of my life— of whom shall I be afraid? (Psalms 27:1)
>O best of the Bharatas, in strong persons, I am their strength devoid of desire and passion. I am sexual activity not conflicting with virtue or scriptural injunctions. (B.G 7.11)
>But what need there, Arjuna, for all this detailed knowledge? With a single fragment of Myself I pervade and support this entire universe. (B.G. 10.42)
In truth,
>All this is Brahman
Chandogya Upanishad 3.14.1
There are no parts OP. The desire for a sense of belonging expressed in OP is merely an expression of the ignorance of the oneness of God.

>> No.18622440

Wow. Powerfully ignorant assumption. The Self is free. The living being is only bound by ignorance.
>Do you still not understand?

>> No.18622446

No tard. Christianity is idolatry. Which contradicts premise one of that shit. Smfh. The ignorance seema willful here these days.

>> No.18622463

There's no idolatry, Moshe. Your misunderstanding, or incapability of understanding, the Trinity is all you have.

>> No.18622491

I thought the underlying theme of the bhagavad gita was that we are bound to the duties of our lives?

>> No.18622513

the trinity is pseudo-monotheism and no amount of intellectual sophistry will change that

>> No.18622519

Thats what the jews say, I should have specified. I dont reject Christianity bc of idolatry. I reject it bc vedanta is better and a more pure aryan spirituality, unmixed with semtic weakness.
Yes. Do you duty. You are responsible for your karma. Not
>god or jesus saves you from your sins.
Upnaishads are better imo.

>> No.18622571

This is the true answer

>> No.18622580

>Milk Toast
It's milquetoast you retard

>> No.18622584

You just have to find a good priest. Nearly every monk I've met has been obese/seemed homosexual and the priests I've seen arent much better. Fortunately I found an African priest who spent years evangelizing in dangerous, pagan parts of Africa, seems like they still have guys with fire in them over there

>> No.18622629

To be honest I've never understood how a Christian can be Catholic.
So-called "Reveverence" of the pope is clearly worshiping a false God, and the Idea that the pope speaks with the voice of God is blasphemy. No man is "infalable", and the only voice of God is the Metatron.
Also praying to wooden crucifixes and statues of the virgin Mary is idolatry. Hell, praying to Mary in itself breaks the first commandment.
And the way priests are treated is sickening. "It is easier for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle, than for a rich man to enter heaven", and yet priests are given bigger houses than most people will ever own, their churches are adorned with gold and treasures and they are placed above others who serve God through genuine charity. All this off the back of believers who are asked to donate their money to the richest organisation in the world to cleanse themselves of sin.
Can you tell me: when did Jesus ever ask for donation? When did he say that salvation can be bought? "give your money to the poor" he said. "Set aside your material possetions and follow me. You will have nothing, and you will be free.

>> No.18622657

It sounds like you would be interested in a Roman Catholic parish that primarily or exclusively celebrates the traditional Latin Mass. I would check the websites of The Institute of Christ the King Sovereign Priest, The Priestly Fraternity of St. Peter, and The Society of St. Pius X to see if they have a parish in your area.

If you have no idea what I'm talking about, pic related is a good start.

>> No.18622749

or just reach enlightenment. save you a lot of time reading someone elses extrapolations, made for and from their will

>> No.18622795

That's what the church used to be like, and the early protestants as well. Unfortunately that sort of Christianity doesn't exist today
>milk toast

>> No.18622992

Upanishads are the best part though.

>> No.18623002

>milk toast nature of the church and the creepy effeminate demeanour of most priests
These are both results of Vatican II and we're starting to fix them even in Novus Ordo communities. Find a comfy ethnic community like Irish Catholics or Maronites.

Also "milk toast" lmao mutt education

>> No.18623351

> Might is Right by "Ragnar Redbeard"
Yet another LARPer who can't handle that mighty Christianity assraped his weakfaggot paganism. Many such cases

>> No.18623363

Don’t try to bend the teachings of Christ to your desires. Also stay away from Catholicism, it is corrupt and worldly.

>> No.18623383

Liberation in the Gita is ultimately an act of grace resulting from total devotion and surrender to God

>> No.18623406

I've tried thinking about this when I thought of fixing my despair with God but then it occurred for me how sad it is to be shopping for a religion. You can't do that. You need to use what you have, or not use it. This is why Western Buddhism is shit. It's something that you get to while shopping for it.

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