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What is the single most wrong book ever made?

>> No.18725044
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18725044

>>18725023
Released in 2001.

>> No.18725055

The Bible

>> No.18725061

das kapital

>> No.18725077

>>18725044
It will falter some with the collapse of the US, but they’ve opened up markets in the rest of Eurasia and Africa. Still, I could predict a decline by 2060, 2080. Their empire will be shorter than the US hegemony, but they won’t be making the same mistakes as the US. Next up? India? Iran? An African confederacy? Climate catastrophe coming right around there. There’s your End of History, Francis.

>> No.18725089

>>18725023
The Books.

>> No.18725092

>>18725077
You some kind of one-tranny think tank? Nobody asked

>> No.18725104

>>18725023
how was he wrong?

>> No.18725109

>>18725077
>Iran? Africa?
Lol no, never gonna happen. Foreign powers already bought the shit of Africa and Iran is just waiting for its own civil war (back to the good ole days of the late 70s).
At some point, there will be a total nuking of the concept of “world power”, when the world will enter its post-capitalistic phase.

Also, kys tripfag.

>> No.18725120

>>18725055
>>18725061
please, elaborate or leave.

>> No.18725134
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>>18725109
>Foreign powers already bought the shit of Africa
I’m talking about after 2090. What’s the world look like then? Anything is possible.
I of course would prefer a post-capitalist world. I want it tomorrow at the soonest.

Also, kys asshole

>> No.18725146

>>18725120
Genesis 6 6

>> No.18725147

>>18725109
stop engaging with him, jfc

>> No.18725155

The Bible

>> No.18725164
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18725164

created a panic circa 1972, projected doom and mass die-off by 2000, failed to allow for human innovation, feedback systems do not lend themselves to linear extrapolation

>> No.18725168

The Bible, Quran or any other silly fiction book written 3500 years ago, I value my intelligence and scientific fact over fairy tales

In this moment, I am euphoric. Not because of any phony god's blessing. But because, I am enlightened by my intelligence.

>> No.18725173

>>18725023
>USA on the path to become a neolib one-party state
>EU will try to unite into one country sooner rather than later
>China's demographic crisis means that their current state is as powerful as they will ever get
>Islamism fractured
He was right.

>> No.18725177

>>18725173
>China's demographic crisis
This cope is this old huh

>> No.18725186
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>>18725104
The book was written in 1992. Western liberal democracy is already dying, and won't even make it 50 years after he wrote his book. It's an ideology that celebrates weakness and decay, only held aloft by banker money that is backed by nothing and only has value as long as people believe it does. The rise of China and rapid decline of the US and Europe demonstrates that liberalism is a dead-end ideology.

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>>18725044
I suppose Xi Jinping is just another Mao with a 40 year reign, hard to believe. Unless there is a war over China's role in killing 50 million Westerners with the Covid lab leak. A nation of lies with an economy of lies would seem to be inherently weak.

>> No.18725193

>>18725173
>China is the state having a demographic crisis
Holy fucking cope

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>>18725023

>> No.18725207

>>18725173
It’s already a one party neolib state, but they’ll continue to pretend it’s two.
The EU is more divided than ever.
China and the others are going to make this a multipolar world with them in the lead. He predict that?
Is this why this hack is continually posted here?

>> No.18725211

>>18725177
>>18725193
Demographics do not lie. Unless they open the gates to mass immigration (in which I will be completely wrong), they are going to decline.

>> No.18725223

>>18725204
You win

>> No.18725235

>>18725134
Butters are you actually a tranny or a biological woman? I always imagine you as either one of the above and would like a confirmation

>> No.18725245
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>>18725211
Yeah, mass immigration is what made the USA so powerful. Where would they be without hordes of cheap coloured labour?

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>>18725235
I am actually a biological woman. I don’t even believe transitioning is real. I resemble a plainer version of Björk.

>> No.18725269

>>18725252
Post face, tits, wrist and feet or GTFO, femoid.

>> No.18725270

>>18725252
Based.

>> No.18725276

>>18725245
>Where would they be without hordes of cheap coloured labour?
A warmer version of Canada. Population = power, and if China wants to remain powerful they will open themselves up. They are in Africa for a reason, anon.

>> No.18725283

>>18725276
china has 1.5 billion people

>> No.18725284

>>18725245
>blogspot.com

>> No.18725290

>>18725188
>Unless there is a war over China's role in killing 50 million Westerners with the Covid lab leak
It has probably leaked from a USA lab btw

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>>18725269
I ain’t gotta do nuthin

>> No.18725302

>>18725284
Here is all the data and sources. Sorry there were no billionaire funded TV talking heads to relay you this information.

https://archive.fo/Gn69H

>> No.18725307

>>18725252
Too ugly for social media so you address your attention crave by being a tripfag? Fuck off attention whoring shit

>> No.18725319

>>18725302
>chud drivel
Kek.

>> No.18725323

>>18725283
It'll be dropping like a stone soon, and the working class will have to support a much bigger group of elderly. I am telling you, they will open up to immigration if they have any chance of making it. (That said, the PRC seems to be pushing for Han people and the people themselves seem to value ethnic homogeneity, so we will see).

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>>18725023
How come Fukuyama was so wrong and of all the people in the world, it was Krauthammer who got it right?

>> No.18725505

>>18725188
Xi isn't quite like Mao. Nobody can really be like Mao because Mao was like a God and these Chinese peasants were pretty superstitious back then. Or villagers didn't think "Mao Zedong" was a real person but a new title for the emperor. "So, who's the new Mao Zedong?" And then he throws down lightning bolts to make the world shake!

https://youtu.be/BxJ55gFvn5M?t=67

>>18725211
Sure. But look at Europe. Look at the projections of Hungary's population over the next few decades. They lose several million people without immigration. And by 2030, the European Union could fall to 12% of share of global GDP.

So, these China doomsday books are not totally wrong, they have a ton of problems in China, but look in the mirror.

Or they could really switch over to a command economy and replace labor with machines run by state-owned companies operated on a not-for-profit basis. I think that's something that could really happen.

>> No.18725537

>>18725120
Or what faggot?

>> No.18725632

>>18725505
>but look in the mirror.
There's a reason the EU is so pro-immigration/migration/refugee. They know this and are bringing people in to keep things going.

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>Kills the west

>> No.18726476

>china demographic collapse doesn't work in favor of growing trends
>china needs an open immigration policy, especially for useless violent deadbeats who are a net lifetime burden on the government.

lol cope retards

>> No.18726492

>>18725323
Nah, the Chinese will simply start a diaspora, you already see increasing numbers of Chinese living abroad and marrying with locals like in South America and Uganda.

>> No.18726527

>>18726492
What does Chinese people living abroad have to do with anything? In fact, that would hurt the PRC, as it means human capital is leaving the country.

>> No.18726564

>>18725641
Beat me to it.
When I read the Second Treatise for the first time, I was raging at how any rational person could take this seriously. This guy single handedly put western civilization back by about 500 or 600 years probably.
I mean, democracy was a good experiment, and it had good intentions behind it, but looking at in retrospect it's crazy how wrong Locke was about literally everything.

>> No.18726581

>>18726492
What do their kids look like? I've seen the Blasians.

>> No.18726895

>>18726527
China has a skewed gender ratio with more boys than girls because of the one child policy and boys being preferred.
The diaspora means that the men who would become incels and start trouble in China can now marry foreign women, this is also good because it increases China's influence and power projection in the world with ethnic enclaves much like Russia does in Eastern Europe.
Thanks to their political and economic system a lot of the capital made in investments abroad flows back to China.
Chinese have everything to gain from leaving their country and settling elsewhere.

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>>18725023
>>18725044
Fukuyama is blatantly wrong about the end of history but he deserves credit for not being a total moron like his intellectual descendants.

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>>18727034
Well that was a pretty good prediction

https://youtu.be/u--cQWrNO_4

>> No.18727092

>>18727069
Indeed. He was blinded by western triumphalism in the wake of the fall of the USSR but not completely. Reality shined through the cracks of his work anyway.

>> No.18727141

>>18725077
>>18725092
>>18725109
Keep in mind thats a fake buttercunt.

>> No.18727164

I guess we’re just supposed to pretend like the global youth aren’t universally woke and that social media isn’t liberalizing everyone? Liberalism is only getting stronger. The problem is that it fucking sucks and is inherently self-destructive. Wherever Western liberalism touches, only decadent and mediocrity follows, and after COVID, that’s the only way to describe the world. We’re the Last Men and Nietzsche had the last laugh.

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>>18725186
>It's an ideology that celebrates weakness and decay, only held aloft by banker money that is backed by nothing and only has value as long as people believe it does.
Well put, but you are putting the horse before the wagon. after a few hundred years even China will collapse. Decay comes from secularization and the philosophical models most of us base our presumptions on

>> No.18727191

>>18727164
>Wherever Western liberalism touches, only decadent and mediocrity follows
yes
>We’re the Last Men
end of history type faggotry, try being less gay

>> No.18727199

>>18725077
India will soon have a larger population than China, but it is far behind in economy. It also has spent very little on infrastructure, while China has invested heavily on this. I think they will be to China what China is to us

>> No.18727204

>>18727166
What about climate change and other ecological crises?

>> No.18727205

>>18725186
Its too soon to tell, really. For all we know, this current rise in authoritarianism could just be a reaction to an incurable virus (western degeneracy/whatever)

>> No.18727211

>>18727204
symptoms of the Faustian age of endless expansion where people look outward instead of looking inward

>> No.18727212

>>18725323
>>18726492
China has one of the largest diasporas in the world. They can merely encourage diaspora to move back if they want. As they improve, this will become more appealing. Still, I am assuming they eventually get on par with US,etc in terms of standard of living. This may never happen, which would mean the diaspora would not want to move back

>> No.18727231

>>18727166
>Decay comes from secularization and the philosophical models
China is a culture with an unusual tolerance for atheism and a materialist point of view historically. I wonder if that will give them more resilience in lasting through decline. Their natural authoritarianism and collectivism may also make for a much longer Caesarism just like it did before.

>> No.18727238

>>18725044
The Chinese century is dawning though.

>> No.18727248

>>18725077
>Their empire will be shorter than the US hegemony

China as a civilization has existed for six thousand years or so. You're a dumb tranny.

>> No.18727258

>>18725252
Are you in your forties or so?

>> No.18727264

>>18725298
Why do you persist her femoid? What do you get out of this?

>> No.18727276

>>18725284
>>18725319
Here are the sources, since reading is too difficult for you:

Immigration Impact Meta-Analysis:
http://dspace.ubvu.vu.nl/bitstream/handle/1871/9737/04134.pdf?sequence=1
Taxes paid by brackets:
http://www.ctj.org/pdf/taxday2014.pdf
Racial groups by income bracket:
https://www.census.gov/hhes/www/cpstables/032014/hhinc/hinc05R.xls
Medicaid Enrollment by race, projected from these numbers:
https://www.ccwdata.org/web/guest/medicaid-charts#a2_eligibility_race_2010
Welfare use by race:
http://www.statisticbrain.com/welfare-statistics/
Medicare Enrollment:
http://kff.org/report-section/income-and-assets-of-medicare-beneficiaries-2014-2030-tables/
Social Security Enrollment by race in 2014:
https://books.google.com/books?id=72kMCAAAQBAJ&pg=PA3324&lpg=PA3324&dq=Social+security+beneficiaries+2014+by+race+black+hispanic+white&source=bl&ots=IMvvS1GlQM&sig=Ry6RF3ZFXZ2lrIirsA2RClYSRE8&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjX6uzqydDMAhVr5oMKHX_JBaQ4ChDoAQg4MAQ#v=onepage&q=Social%20security%20beneficiaries%202014%20by%20race%20black%20hispanic%20white&f=false
Total US Government Spending at all levels 2014
http://www.usgovernmentspending.com/year_spending_2014USbt_17bs2n#usgs302
Total US Government Revenue of all types and at all levels 2014
http://www.usgovernmentrevenue.com/piechart_2014_US_total

>> No.18727280

>>18727248
The fuck is your problem?
I didn’t say they’d vanish from the earth. I’m talking about capitalism smiling on their good fortunes.
It jumps from place to place. From Venice to Genoa, to the Netherlands, to Britain, to the US, to China. There’re’ll be another after before the century’s out. But all these places still exist

>> No.18727442 [DELETED] 

>>18727280
How is it that you are posting here all day every day Butters? You a welfare leech or are you livin' off of child support payments from the guy you cheated on with Jamal?

How do you have nothing better to do? You're as persistent as herpes.

>> No.18727546

>>18725023
Jared Diamond Guns Germs and Steel

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>>18725023
Actually, this book is a far worse prediction of the future than Fukuyama.

Some highlights (courtesy of Wikipedia):
>In the 2020s and 2030s, three main powers will emerge in Eurasia: Turkey, Poland, and Japan. Initially supported by the United States, Turkey will expand its sphere of influence and become a regional power, much as it was during the time of the Ottoman Empire. The Turkish sphere of influence will extend into the Arab world, which will have increasingly fragmented by then, and north into Russia and other former Soviet countries. Israel will continue to be a powerful nation and will be the only country in the immediate region to remain outside the Turkish sphere of influence. However, Israel will be forced to come to an accommodation with Turkey due to Turkey's military and political power.
>Meanwhile, Japan will expand its economic influence to regions of coastal China, the Russian Far East, and many Pacific Islands. Friedman predicts that Japan will change its foreign policy during this time period, becoming more geopolitically aggressive, beginning a major military buildup. Friedman predicts that Japan will build military strength capable of regionally projecting power across East Asia during this time.
>Finally, Poland will continue to lead its military alliance, the "Polish Bloc." Poland and its allies will be a major power, much like the time of the Polish–Lithuanian Commonwealth. Now possessing substantial military strength, Poland will expand its economic influence into what was formerly European Russia, and will begin to compete with Turkey for influence in the important economic region of the Volga River Valley. Around this time, space programs for military use will begin to emerge, and Japan and Turkey will increasingly begin to develop military capabilities in space.
>In the mid-21st century, around the year 2050, a Third World War will take place, between the United States, the "Polish Bloc", the UK, India, and China on one side, and Turkey and Japan on the other, with Germany and France entering the war in its late stages on the side of Turkey and Japan. According to the book, the war will probably be started by a coordinated Turkish-Japanese sneak attack against the United States and its allies. In the book, Friedman predicts that the attack will take place at a time in which the US will be taken completely off guard, and hypothesizes 5:00 p.m. on November 24, 2050 (Thanksgiving Day) as a potential time.

>> No.18727673

>>18725276
>They are in Africa for a reason, anon.
Not for the niggers you completely brainwashed goytard

>> No.18727676

Who here has actually read Fukuyama's book? Be honest.

>> No.18727697

>>18725211
>Unless they open the gates to mass immigration (in which I will be completely wrong), they are going to decline

So a demographic pyramid-Ponzi scheme of sub human brown retards = prosperity, Rabbi?

How come 95% of everything man made was created by white men (0% diversity) and hordes of Latino Oompla Loompas and sub gorilla Africans have achieved -4.9% of everything man made? Outside of Jewish Globalist fantasy can you provide actual historical evidence that your goyslave programming is anything other than goyslave leftcuck programming?

>> No.18728190 [DELETED] 

>>18727697
Sup, /pol/ nigger?

>> No.18728198

>>18727697
Sup /pol/ nigger

>> No.18728238

>>18725186
He never said liberal democracy couldn't fail. Just that nothing new would come after it, but we could very well regress to other forms of government.

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>>18728238
>regress

>> No.18728308

>>18728198
I like how you don't bother to refute >>18727697. I mean you can't and you know this.

>> No.18728842

>>18727676
In grade 7 we did a comparative analysis of an excerpt from "The End of History" compared to Huntington's "Clash of Civilizations"
Never felt the need to read Fukuyama since if I'm being honest

>> No.18729383

>>18725023
The History of the Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire

>> No.18729436

>>18725077
India and the other large equatorial nations can't be contenders for global hegemon - those countries are not going to be habitable by 2060

>> No.18729466

>>18727141
How to tell the difference? What's real Butterfly's ID?

>> No.18730332

>>18729436
>not going to be habitable by 2060
You’re sure it’ll escalate that quickly? I’ve seen projections of about 2090 to 2120

>> No.18730713

>>18730332
Most Urban parts of India are >100 degrees farenheit and 100% humidity. Even 10 degrees hotter and it's already becoming a Sauna.

>> No.18730716

>>18728842
So no one, then, has actually read the book I take it.

>> No.18730724

>>18725109
>when the world will enter its post-capitalistic phase.
Yeah and Jesus is coming back any time now

>> No.18730776

>>18725204
kek

>> No.18730794

>>18725641
>>18726564
>democracy was a good experiment, and it had good intentions behind it, but looking at in retrospect it's crazy how wrong Locke was about literally everything.
Okay you guys got me interested. Can you give me a basic overview of some of his key points and how they were dead wrong?
Is it still an interesting read or should I skip Locke altogether?

>> No.18730808

>>18730713
Sounds like a good place to dilate then. I'm trans btw

>> No.18730811

>>18728291
Do you frequent Exarcheia and Pangrati by any chance?
I feel like I know at least half a dozen people like you

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18730865

I've heard anons on here suggest that China will succumb to Western degeneracy or whatever. What are the reasons for this pov? We know what happened the last time China's youth started acting like faggots and threatened national stability.

>> No.18730867

>>18730808
>PA9+bSFpT8S
You sure are.

>> No.18730887

>>18727572
>Poland
https://youtu.be/mahTGNIk4q4?t=26

>> No.18731613

>>18727141
Doesn't matter even if it was. Same dipshit mentally ill commie tranny degenerate posting.

>> No.18731659

>>18730865
What do you mean? China gatekeeps the worst of LGBT, but allows some faggotry for population control, like encouraging men to dress as women, letting state run media portray femboys as desirable.

LGBT parades and such are banned because they can disrupt Chinese enterprise with by allowing a funnel for more retarded garbage like: Muh Uighur rights, which while I disapprove of communist destruction of ethnics, probably isn't as bad as over-biased anti-Chinese propaganda sounds. Or muh black immigrants will save the economy, instead of being a net multi tens of thousands drain.

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>>18730808
Uh oh! Gottem!
Troll status - successful

>> No.18731797

>>18727572
To top it all off this book was written in... 2009