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[Anonymous No.18783330]

Has anyone refuted his manifesto?

[Anonymous No.18783355]

the forbidden fruit cannot be uneaten. only christ can save us from this red hell

[Anonymous No.18783359]

You can't 'refute' schizophrenia OP.
Not even saying he's wrong, you just can't.

[Anonymous No.18783370]

>>18783330
>Has anyone refuted 1+1=2?
Literally the same question

[Anonymous No.18783385]

I imagine it's pretty easy to not agree if you have a strong transhumanist ethical foundation. But you can't really refute morality

[Anonymous No.18783390]

>>18783330
> pic related
Of course the source is more important than the advice itself in terms of if i will follow it or not. why its implied like its bad?

[Anonymous No.18783394]

the problem is boomers were anti tech without even understanding why tech is bad, they were just being boomers. and now they've mostly embraced tech

[Anonymous No.18783396]

>>18783330
I like surrogate activities.

Q.E.D.

[Anonymous No.18783403]

>>18783385
>But you can't really refute morality
Yeah, you can. Are you retarded?

[Anonymous No.18783406]

>>18783394
The reasoning of anti-tech hippies was largely the same as the reasoning of the anti-tech movement today, we've just been given more proof for the past 50 years.

>>18783390
Pseud

[Anonymous No.18783422]

>>18783390
why is a terrorist's source important than your grandfather's?

[Anonymous No.18783435]

>>18783406
do you even know the definition of that word?
>>18783422
I did not meet my granfathers

[Anonymous No.18783455]

>>18783403
Do it then

[Anonymous No.18783474]

>>18783406
the boomers in my own life who didnt allow me to have a phone or vidya as a kid had basically no reasoning other than "new bad" and that the screen would ruin my eyes. If they knew how bad tech actually was they'd have never let me get a phone. im not letting my kid get a smartphone

[Anonymous No.18783496]

>>18783474
They perhaps knew intuitively but did not have the means to articulate it, not that a brat kid would ever listen to, understand, or care about arguments about dopamine or whatever.

>>18783435
Caring more about source than content is peak pseud behavior.

[Anonymous No.18783503]

>>18783496
I guess thats fair.

[Anonymous No.18783672]

>>18783330
I'm going to go ahead and say ole' Una has some views that differ from the boomer dad stereotype

[Anonymous No.18783781]

>phone bad
>boomers

what? have you ever seen a boomer with a cell phone? there as bad as teenage girls.

[Anonymous No.18784266]

>>18783330
yes I have refuted him in multiple /lit/ posts

[Anonymous No.18784316]

>>18783330

Not the same. The boomer denies climate change, Papa Ted was our last chance to fix it.

[Anonymous No.18785464]

>>18783394
I get what you mean, but as far as I can tell, Boomers' brand of anti-tech is wholly different from Ted's brand of anti-tech. Boomers love their cars, lawnmowers, and ESPECIALLY television. They just tend to dislike tech that deviates from the life they lived when they were young.

To me, it's amazing that Ted was even capable of being disillusioned with modernity; he was born right at the end of WWII. His voice was truly never meant to be heard by Boomers or Gen X, and I imagine it resonates a lot more with later Millennials and Gen Z whose autonomy is demonstrably less than that of previous generations.

[Anonymous No.18785479]

>>18783781
Tell me about it. Going anywhere with my dad takes twice as long as it should. constantly stopping to text. I'll say just wait five minutes youre a grown ass man and he tells me to fuck off, lmao.

[Anonymous No.18785492]

>>18783330
No

[Anonymous No.18785547]

>>18783330
yeah, you refuted it by choosing to post on 4chan instead of going to live in the woods

[Anonymous No.18785591]

>>18785464
>resonates a lot more with later Millennials and Gen Z
Checking in

[Anonymous No.18786051]

>>18783403
>he doesn't know objective morality exists
AHAHAHAHAHAHA Ted knew this

[Anonymous No.18786071]

>>18783330
No one read it, but a couple of citations I've seen are laughably bad.
You cannot even make a simple decent meme out of his "manifesto". Phone bad? Really? That's it?

[Anonymous No.18786094]

>>18783781
>have you ever seen a boomer with a cell phone
My father and uncle have flip phones and cant use computers.

[Anonymous No.18786582]

>>18783330
how low has /lit/ fallen when images like this are in OP

[Anonymous No.18787746]

Refute what? I am a transhumanist and think technology is the greatest thing. Was everything Ted said correct? Yes. Technology does control our lives and forces us into certain behaviours, but that is a good thing.

[Anonymous No.18787758]

>>18783403
Outside religion morality is just an expression of personal taste. Maybe he doesn't have a religion, then you cannot refute it. You might make a moral claim like "killing and robbing children is morally good", and that means that people should do it even if they don't want to do it. But that would just be your personal taste. Someone else might think that killing and robbing children is morally wrong, the opposite. Or morally neutral, neither something people should or should not do. But outside religion there is no reason why any of those claims are true.

[Anonymous No.18787764]

>>18787746
Yikes, my dude.

[Anonymous No.18787774]

>>18787746
the words of a conquered male

[Anonymous No.18787793]

>>18783394
This. Hurrr covid vax is fake - posted on my facebook

[Anonymous No.18787796]

>refute

[Anonymous No.18787799]

>>18783496
>They perhaps knew intuitively but did not have the means to articulate it,
You're pedastalizing the elderly. They're not fucking shamans.

[Anonymous No.18787816]

>>18786094
What are we supposed to do with your very exceptional anecdote, nigger? If you run around a city and even most rural areas, you'll see everyone has embraced tech and even have the same debilitating addiction that tiktok teens have.

[Anonymous No.18787840]

>waah bommers bad, they fucked up the economy
no you stupid fucking adhd conzoomer, you're paying taxes for people to rule over you and systemically emprovrish you with interest. you're also being made to turn on your own people instead of looking for the real root of the problem.

misderection. their oldest trick.

[Anonymous No.18787856]

>>18787746
>"A gramme is better than a damn," said anon mechanically from behind her hands. "I wish I had my soma!"
fucking drone

[Anonymous No.18787981]

>>18783330
that pic is retarded, Ted K did not address communication technology, social media or the internet but the whole industrial framework
absolutely no boomer shares this point of view
person who made this image is a subhuman retard and he has not read the manifesto
please, whoever you are, rope to the neck

[Anonymous No.18788064]

>>18783330
>Has anyone refuted his manifesto?
Here

Man has become overspecialized- the very cognitive skills which nurtured our survival have over extended allowing us not only to build a safe physical environment but the ability to destroy our selves spiritually as we seek to find a purpose within the chaos that supposedly randomly spawned out existence.
We struggle with an unreasonable amount of reason- Having evolved our behaviour far beyond what biology could keep up with, leaving us stuck in the past striving yet beyond the what is now seen as the "basic" needs that were once the only concern.
There are two solutions as I see it- we can hope for transhumanism to act as the true second coming of god making man in our own idealized image- yet ironically the very thing it seeks to fix will prevent it ever coming to be as the human condition exploits this potential technology for their own benefit- those with might are right as has always been the case and true monstrosities which were once human would surface- this dystopic vision of humanity would be beyond the horrors our best writers could conceptualize and become our destiny.
So that will not happen! we hope!
The second solution is the very thing Ted Kaczynski the unabomber hoped to achieve- Returning the world to a preindustrial age more aligned with our natural evolutionary needs.
Obviously man would begin to discover the forbidden knowledge of silicon again returning us to where we started.
The thing that B O T H of these proposed solutions have in common is they fail in the exact same way- their downfall is the very thing they hope to correct.
The human condition.

[Anonymous No.18788294]

>>18783422
My grandpa was a manager in a tech company in the 70s
not the same anon btw

[Anonymous No.18788554]

>>18783330
yes. me.

[Anonymous No.18788836]

>>18788294
?

[Anonymous No.18788945]

>>18787840
>never read the manifesto

[Anonymous No.18789000]

>>18788945
explain

[Anonymous No.18789427]

>>18789000
The tedpill isn't about "muh economy" or "muh elites". In a way, it isn't even about technology. The tedpill is a rejection of civilization itself. Technology is nothing but a way to build up civilization, which is why Kaczynski rejects it. He wants to get rid of agriculture as well, but he just doesn't know how to do it.

[Anonymous No.18789437]

>>18783330
Ted is embarrassingly bad, the fact that he never questions what nature is a proof of that

[Anonymous No.18789498]

>>18789427
>you didn't take the "tedpill"
of course i fucking didn't.
>adopting the mindset of a victim of mkultra
>adopting anyone's mindset entirely at all

[Anonymous No.18789525]

>>18789437
Ted never had to question what counts as nature. Whether it's technically natural or not, technology is bad.

[Anonymous No.18789571]

>>18783781
This. They have even stopped telling kids that phones are bad now since their addiction to them is obvious for everyone.