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I don't give a fuck what they are or where they're sourced, just post em.

>> No.18850177

>>18850134


IS THAT YOUR NOTION OF AN IMAGE EVOCATIVE OF «HORROR»?

>> No.18850178

there is literally nothing good but lovecraft

>> No.18850197

A Collapse of Horses, Brian Evenson

>> No.18850211

>>18850134
I've heard 'Penpal' by Dathan Auerbach is worth a read but I haven't looked into it at all.

Salem's Lot and pet semetary are legitimately good despite the author.

The Island of Doctor Moreau is the only book that has ever given me a visceral, I'm-being-chased/watched feeling.

>> No.18850290

>>18850134
Sheridan Le Fanu - In a Glass Darkly (1872)
Arthur Machen - The Hill of Dreams (1907)
C. Terry Cline Jr - Damon (1975)

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>>18850177
He should have used some of the numerous instances of Catholic horror

>> No.18850312

>>18850134
Dracula is one I love

>>18850177
God is as horrific as He is sublime

>> No.18850386

>>18850293


?

1. YOU MEAN: «"PROTESTANTISTIC" HORROR», OR «PAGANICAL HORROR», OR «INFIDEL HORROR»; IF YOU WILL DERIDE SOMETHING AT LEAST BE KNOWLEDGEABLE RE THE THING, AND WITH A BASIS OF TRUTH, OTHERWISE YOU APPEAR FOOLISH, TO PUT IT NICELY.

2. THAT DEVICE IN THE IMAGE ATTACHED TO YOUR POST WAS USED ON PERSONS ACCUSED OF CRIMES AGAINST THE STATE, NOT AGAINST THE CHURCH, AND USED ONLY IN GERMANY, FRANCE, AND ITALY, AND PREDOMINANTLY AMONGST «PROTESTANT» HERETICS.

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>>18850386
>1.
No.
>2.
Ah. The Roman Imperial Catholic Church preferred burning, and the rack. Not versed in such things.

>> No.18850413

>>18850134
creepypasta

>> No.18850425

Is horror worth getting into if I haven't read much to begin with?

>> No.18850427

>>18850134
HPL's dream cycle. Not really what he called it. Just a great collection.

>>18850312
Even the infinite perfection of God's love is terrifying.

>> No.18850437

>>18850386
Man, I even agree with you and I want you to shut the fuck up.

>> No.18850439

>>18850425
It's a (stale) genre tag that contains King at one end and Borges at the other - anything can be considered horror.

>> No.18850444

>>18850405
You shut the fuck up too.

>> No.18850448

>>18850405


APPROXIMATE NUMBER OF INDIVIDUALS BURNED AT THE STAKE IN HERETICAL ENGLAND ONLY IN XVII CENTURY: FIFTY THOUSAND (50000).

APPROXIMATE NUMBER OF INDIVIDUALS BURNED AT THE STAKE IN HERETICAL «GERMANY» ONLY IN XVII CENTURY: ONEHUNDRED THOUSAND (100000).

APPROXIMATE NUMBER OF INDIVIDUALS BURNED AT THE STAKE IN THE ENTIRETY OF THE UNIVERSAL CHRISTIAN EMPIRE OF THE HISPANICAL MONARCHY BETWEEN XVI, AND XVIII, CENTURIES: ONETHOUSAND THREE HUNDRED (1300).

>> No.18850451

>>18850437
>>18850444
Catholic murders, rapes and pedophilia are holy to you?

>> No.18850464

>>18850448
APPROXIMATE NUMBER OF INDIVIDUALS BURNED AT THE STAKE IN ANY CENTURY BY ATHEISTS: ZERO (0)

>> No.18850474

>>18850464


ATHEISTS PREFER WORSE METHODS, LIKE: MASSACRES, FAMINES, TRANSGENIC INTOXICATION, CLIMATICAL WEAPONIZATION, MURDER IN THE WOMB, ET CETERA.

>> No.18850477

>>18850451
Is murder/rape/pedophilia (assuming molestation, much) supposed to be representative of "le bad" acts? You do realize that having a fuckfest with a kid then killing said child aren't indefensible actions, right? There's no right/wrong predicate IRL, it's arbitrary and wholly reliant on disgust.
>>18850464
Talk about a false equivalency. Aren't you a communard?

>> No.18850484

>Abortion is worse than being tortured or molested by priests
Sick fuck. And you don’t even understand secularist religions aren’t atheist.

>18850477
The fuck is a pretzel maker doing here?

>> No.18850486

>>18850134

>Revenge by Yoko Ogawa
Eerie atmosphere/magical realism (very quick read)
>Ring by Koji Suzuki
Everyone knows about it from the films. It's a decent mystery with a few interesting but mishandled themes (e.g. mysogeny). I tried getting into the sequel (Spiral) but it didn't hold my attention as much. I'm going to give the series another try one day though.

>Exquisite Corpse by Poppy Z. Brite
Surprisingly well written. The gay shit is a little much but it's worth looking passed (especially if you consider all of the characters as degenerates). It makes sense that a ftm tranny, a couple of decades after writing this book, would do body horror and twisted/broken characterization so well. (For the record, I dislike Clive Barker but enjoyed this).

>The Woman in the Dunes by Kobo Abe
I think this book can be fairly classified as an existential horror. It's in the same vein as the film version of I'm Thinking of Ending Things (FYI Kaufman's adaptation is a lot better than the book...only bother with the novel if you're filtered by the film).

>Echoes: The Saga Anthology of Ghost Stories by Various
It's inconsistent in terms of quality but it presents a fairly good mix of (mostly) unknown authors doing different things within the genre. The editor did a good job keeping the stories tonally consistent but I'd of liked more diversity (i.e. the authorial voices are too similar).

Those are the most recent horror novels that I've read. (The only other one was Ararat by Christopher Browing...that book was fucking terrible). I tried using the Stoker Awards as a guide and quit after disliking Ararat (I also read Boy's Life based on it and a little research about the author--it was ok but not really horror in my opinion).

>> No.18850490

>>18850439
All I can think of is that I could easily read all these weird books and enjoy them, or I could explore the older books which played a part in inspiring them, and that kinds fucks up my decision making here

>> No.18850491

>>18850178
Ligotti is good

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>>18850290
Impeccable list, anon.

>> No.18850528

>>18850134
Ted the Caver is a fun little read

>> No.18850545

>>18850474
>>18850484
Me and cumgenius don’t get along often but are you really claiming that rape or molestation or killing of an adult is as bad as a mother voluntarily killing her child? If you truly believe this then you should be fine with stabbing the child yourself and should be fine with these mothers stabbing each fetus, better yet, eat them. What does all of that sound sickly and grotesque? Because it is, you’re supporting killing children.

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>> No.18850561

>>18850545
Honestly, I do in fact think there are cases where a mother or father are not only entitled to, but obligated to murder their children. For example, if a baby in the womb will have severe birth defects or genetic diseases which will make its life short and painful, it is better to kill it. I apply the same sort of logic to killing a person who say suffers from a terminal disease or something like brain death.

>> No.18850569

>>18850561
And yet...you live, despite your many deficits (get it, because normativity is a privilege component - which makes you ableist).

>> No.18850591

>>18850545
She's a college-girl socialist who never grew up, Frater. She has no moral agency.
When liberal arts colleges adopt the position that abortion is murder she'll believe that instead.

>> No.18850594

>>18850486
hey thanks for the recommendations, I appreciate this effortpost

>> No.18850602

>>18850569
>And yet...you live, despite your many deficits
Well sure, but none of my defects are life-destroying. I'm not talking about things like Down's Syndrome or the like here, I mean babies who suffer from stuff like Tay-Sachs disease, being born with vital organs missing, etc. Just murder them (aka abort) before they are born, you know that they aren't going to live long and what time they do have will be miserable.

>which makes you ableist
To some degree I am ableist, but not to an extent which I consider immoral. I only consider the very worst situations to be ones where such a position is warranted.

>> No.18850626

>>18850602
I'm against abortion as birth control, but for this, absolutely. No needs to have a harlequin fetus, and no one needs to be one.

>>18850569
Get over yourself.

>> No.18850631

>>18850545
Torturing a human being for writing about god in french. Is less a crime than terminating a fetus, deformed or not?

>>18850591
You know nothing about me. Never speak of me again.

>> No.18850637

>>18850631
100% torturing and killing an adult is far less cruel than a mother killing her own child for her own will and desire. Undoubtably. Go and eat a child if you don’t care.

>> No.18850638

>>18850602
I was joking anon (response appreciated, btw). I know quite a few medical professionals (mostly Nurses, some LIP) that share similar positions. They don't typically voice those opinions (understandably) amongst their cohort.
>>18850626
What a cunt.

>> No.18850639

>>18850561
I know. They’d prefer the women bring them into the world and then hand them over to sex starved priests.

>> No.18850653

>>18850637
You are 100% insane.

Now, about my earlier thread on Porete
>>/lit/thread/S18846941
How is she standard christian and yet worthy of torturing to death by this same faith?

>> No.18850657

>>18850638
The worst thing about self-righteous assholes is that they're wrong too.

>> No.18850813

>>18850653
Differing forms of Christianity any form of occult esoteric or mystic Christianity not under state authority got you killed, the idea that people pretended to be Christian to hide their other forms of mysticism is a-historical because there is more historical tolerance for Neoplatonism than variant forms of Christianity. Gadoligs today give it Nihil Obstat and Imprimatur.

Again it’s really not substantially different from the Catholic poetry of Angelus nor the contemplative lit of Molinos. Did you actually read the book and have you any other exposure to Christian mysticism? If not the antinomian “abandon all to love in god” idea may seem different and odd, but it’s actually just absolute adoration of Christ with the idea being such will make you immediately obey all of the biblical commandments.

Oh and on the insane remark, thank you!

“Surely insanity, insanity, insanity is better!” - ayin al quzat

>> No.18850821

>>18850813
Murder is justified in this case is what you’re saying

>> No.18850855

>>18850631
>you dun' know me!

This is exactly what stupid women —and only women— say when you've got their number.

>> No.18850924

>>18850821
I have no problems with the murder of children if it was desired by God, my problem is with people taking it on their own will and desire and saying by right of their own wills they ought kill their own children. If you convinced me it was God’s will to pass all of the world’s young into the fire as a burnt offering I would support it fully. I do not support whatsoever individuals by merit of their own will killing willy nilly, for me it requires the Will of God to be justified, for you it requires the Will of a disgruntled foolish overly emotional and likely Vile woman.

>> No.18850972

>>18850855
No, seriously. You’re 100% wrong there.

>>18850924
Why are you avoiding the question?
The murder of a woman by an institution, both supposedly of the same faith. You can’t properly square that.

>> No.18851010

>>18850972
Again I couldn’t care less, if I believed for a moment God desired it I would have no problem with the massacring of endless lives, why would I care? The institution kills on the grounds that they believe it accords with the Will of god, the women kill the children because it accords with what they will in that particular moment. As I have said, if I believed God desired children to be thrown into the fire I would be the first to throw them in, similarly if I believed God desired adults be slaughtered I would have no moral qualms with it for life is from God and if he so decides to remove and annihilate life and to remove life through us, what concern is that to me? My concern would be nothing but obeying his will.

>> No.18851021

>>18851010
Kys Gypsy

>> No.18851107

>>18850639
You make me pro choice every time you post

>> No.18851160

>>18851010
Cumgenius is annoying but at least he's smart, Butters is an atheist commutard but sort of endearing. You're just a nasty and humorless weirdo. Why do you even call yourself a christian when you're clearly not?

>> No.18851166

>>18851160
>shit testing the new trips
It’s all so tiresome.

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>half the thread filtered out because of tripfags
On topic, the short stories of Robert Aickman and Mark Samuels. I also enjoy Quentin S. Crisp, Mark Valentine, and Michael Cisco, but these straddle the blurry border of horror and "weird" fiction.

>> No.18851412

>>18850134
This thread is the scariest thread I've encountered. Be warned though: War of the Trips is absolutely disgusting I fainted multiple times reading this degenerate, mutilated thread.

I don't recommend. Just read Poe or Lovecraft, something nice.

>> No.18851446

>>18850177
>>18850293
>>18850386
>>18850405
>>18850448
>>18850451
>>18850464
>>18850474
>>18850484
>>18850545
>>18850631
>>18850639
>>18850653
>>18850813
>>18851010
>>18850972
May I please have an autograph?

>> No.18851453

>>18851010
How could you take any other stance as a christian? Based

>> No.18851463

The Elementals by Michael McDowell is a really good southern gothic horror.
When Darkness Loves Us by Elizabeth Engstrom is great, it's two novellas, the first one is the best and is very twisted with very good prose.

>> No.18852857

Bump

>> No.18852982

Tripfags yells into themselfs
/thread

>> No.18853026

>>18850134
Jon Padgett is good.

>> No.18853178

Not exactly on topic, but can anyone recommend me any books on Halloween, the history and/or cultural backgrounds for it. It doesn’t have to be narrow, it can take into account any other cultures that have similar celebrations in the same days.

>> No.18853326

>>18850134

Most horror novels are shit. It's hard to drag a concept out for a whole book. Short stories are the way.

The 13 Best Horror Stories of All Time by Leslie Pockett has a good compilation of some of the most influential short stories. I say influential and not best, because they're not very scary in these modern times.

>> No.18853377

>>18851446
how can a tripfag argue against abortion whilst being an argument for abortion?

>> No.18853384

Call of the Crocodile by F Gardner

>> No.18853459

>>18850134
>the box/the rifle by jack ketchum
first one is creative. second is intense. best ive read
>the haunting of hill house
subtle and well written. one of the more examplary ones in horror
>I have no mouth and I must scream
classic
>lovecraft
some of his "greatest hits" are a bit bloated. the best stories for me are whisperer and shadow over time. dont skip beyond the walls of sleep and statement of randolph carter

>> No.18853467

also ubik and the time machine have very good horror elements and theyre some of the best in their genres. some of the best ever for some

>> No.18853664

>>18850545
>oh you think murder is bad? guess you want to murder and eat babies then. you’re so evil
I don’t understand the “logic” here

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>schnib schnab