/lit/ - Literature

[Anonymous No.18861433]

Books on the future of religion?

[Anonymous No.18861453]

utterly and unredeemably retarded pic

[Anonymous No.18861459]

>>18861433
Based
Larpers BTFO

[Anonymous No.18861472]

>>18861433
Based

[Anonymous No.18861475]

unironically Guenon’s Reign of Quantity

[Anonymous No.18861477]

fpbp

[Anonymous No.18861513]

>>18861433
The Noble Qur'an

[Anonymous No.18861526]

>>18861513
I do wonder how all the atheists will react in Europe once that continent becomes an Islamic one.

[Anonymous No.18861652]

>>18861513
>>18861526
Christianity doesn't offer people the spiritual refuge it used to.
Islam is clearly dominating in those areas. It's like when cats were introduced to Australia. They became wild and killed off many native species into extinction, but that's just order of the nature.
People seem to feel more at home with Islam in their hearts, so that just shows which religion appeals more to the modern believer. Christianity has lost its soul so another (superior) system comes along and takes its place.
In the west nobody's practising, let alone fighting for their religion anymore. Christians are demoralized pussies and won't even rise up to defend, they'll just let it happen. Half of them are practically atheists anyway. The west sucks at religion. The powerful stuff still comes from east.

[Anonymous No.18861663]

A quick rush, a sharp impact, a sudden burning sensation and a piercing sulfuric smell

[Anonymous No.18861726]

>>18861526
this is your brain on /pol/ and chicken nuggers

[Anonymous No.18861829]

>>18861433
I think the worst implication of that pic is the arrogance of being better than those before him

[Anonymous No.18861981]

Canticle for Leibowitz, but it's cheeky.

[Anonymous No.18861988]

[Anonymous No.18862006]

>growing up is realising Aten (PBUH) is the one true God
Based

[Anonymous No.18862007]

>>18861526
Europe will not become Islamic. If it does, it won't be "muh heckin based and redpilled trad Islamic society" but instead a corrupted egalitarian, liberal Islam that permits most of the things in western society that you take for granted. Why? Because no one except for perpetually online brain dead incel teenagers want to join "No fun allowed" the religion.

[Anonymous No.18862255]

>>18862007
It'll be like in Ottoman Empire, essentially like Sufism.

[Anonymous No.18862266]

>>18861526
Catholic missionaries will come from Africa and Asia and reconvert the European Muslims.

[Anonymous No.18862274]

>>18862007
People want wives and family more than they want tinder and weed

[Anonymous No.18862286]

I don't understand the way this site repeatedly counts out Christianity in the future of religion. Not only is it the planet's largest religion, it's still adding followers at a pretty brisk clip.

Hell, there are actually MUSLIM parts of the world where Christianity is growing. Christianity is exploding in the Muslim parts of Africa, for example, and it's even growing in Iran. The only parts of the Muslim world where Christianity isn't growing are the parts where it's literally illegal. And even then, there are secret coverts.

[Anonymous No.18862288]

>>18862274
There's nothing stopping you from having a family now. You don't need Islam to do that. What's stopping you?

[Anonymous No.18862289]

>>18862286
How many people go to church and believe in church dogma? How many who call themselves Christians actually believe in it, and do not just call themselves as such?

[Anonymous No.18862293]

>>18861526
A ridiculous claim. The new religion of Europe will basically be some political theology, muslim will join the jews in tge camps.

[Anonymous No.18862298]

>>18862289
Around the world? Literally billions. Like I said, you're underestimating Christianity. It's not as much of a pushover religion as you think it is.

[Anonymous No.18862299]

>>18862255
One thing that will disgust the average European more then the radical islam of isis is sufism. Mysticism is and has always been the hobby of a small hated minority in Europe.

[Anonymous No.18862303]

>>18861453

the amount of seethe here

[Anonymous No.18862374]

>>18862286
This. Christianity survived through worst and will continue to exist.

[Anonymous No.18862399]

>>18862288
There is lots stopping people, that's why they aren't doing it.

[Anonymous No.18862405]

>>18862289
News flash burger boy, your bumfuck town isnt representative of the whole world.

[Anonymous No.18862406]

>>18861433
Embarrassing.

[Anonymous No.18862414]

>>18862406
That's the Movieblob complain

[Anonymous No.18862415]

>>18862399
No, there's literally nothing stopping you.
>inb4 money
Doesn't stop poor Africans from shitting out a dozen kids.

[Anonymous No.18862463]

>>18862415
God you fucking stupid cocksucker moron

No fault divorce

Feminism


Hostile culture. Marriage and relationships undermined left and right in every way

There is nothing stopping you from calling everyone you meet a 'nigger' either, but we are talking about the reality of the situation. People desperately want families. If nobody is having them, most young men are incel, women are old and childless or else single mothers, etc. something is institutionally wrong.

[Anonymous No.18862465]

>>18861453
FPBP

[Anonymous No.18862519]

>>18862299
I don't know much about Western Europe, as it happens, I'm an Eastern European with little interest in West. Admittedly, I've read a little on Luther and he seemed to have been shaped by mystical literature, then people quite liked him.
Also I know that in early modernity, West Europeans were very fascinated by occultism, think of Theosophy and the fact that the majority of their beloved writers were influenced by that. It's also the period of maximum influence from Masonic orders... and just a little before that became mainstream, majority of guilds had occultism and esoteric practices as the norm.

[Anonymous No.18862580]

>>18862463
>No fault divorce
>Feminism
Fucking /pol/troon, those aren't stopping you from having a family either. Half my cousins are married with kids and at least 2-3 guys I knew in college are already married with kids. Get off the fucking internet and go outside.

[Anonymous No.18862601]

>>18862406
You really think all that money would have gone to something as cool as that? And not pissed down the drain for more gimmedats?

[Anonymous No.18862638]

>>18862463
"Men" are incels because they're socially retarded cowards with porn and vidya addictions.

Can't blame women for hooking up with actual men when most of their peers are worthless, this situation hurts women more actually because the tinder men won't commit to a relationship.

If you're a decent looking, confident and somewhat entertaining man, not a complete incel failure, there are so many good girls out there for you.

[Anonymous No.18862651]

>>18862298
Just the European variant

[Anonymous No.18862656]

>>18861433
So the guy in the last panel became a sun worshiper?

[Anonymous No.18862669]

>>18862298
Protestants are advertising gay clergy and pro-choice on tiktok, while catholics are licking feet of muslim migrants invading their countries. Christianity is cucked and hopeless.

[Anonymous No.18862678]

>>18862656
Yes. It's the highest form of religion and theology.

[Anonymous No.18862698]

>>18862669
And muslims are celebrating christmas, jews eating pork, buddhists marrying into churches and hindus killing cows.

[Anonymous No.18862724]

>>18862698
You're refering to behaviour of plebs, not official stances of religious institutions. If you insist on pointing out the commoner's hypocrisy, there are no worse offenders than the so-called christians. The average church girl racks up 15 different cocks before marriage.

[Anonymous No.18862741]

>>18861433
what a retarded image lmao

[Anonymous No.18862744]

>>18861652
Really ? Or is it just that people from backward parts are immigrating into an increasingly atheistic western culture ? I'm asking because I have not seen the converts one would expect.

[Anonymous No.18862781]

>>18862580
Not him but I wouldn't marry anyone who thinks no fault divorce is a sound concept.

[Anonymous No.18862783]

>>18862724
None of the religions cited are centralized like christianity is, and yet you can certainly find contradicting behaviour on multiple leaders of sects in them.
>there are no worse offenders than the so-called christians
Sure, but they aren't any better either, all religions are changing with the times, no exception among the big ones.
>The average church girl racks up 15 different cocks before marriage.
And you think chicks in Turkey are all virgins until marriage? Could you vouch for the virginity of Japanese, Korean and Indian girls?
All religions are being affected by the secular changes in society, in countries urbanized enough to matter.

[Anonymous No.18862785]

>>18862744
You're making a couple of bad assumptions here.

[Anonymous No.18862796]

>>18862007
>"No fun allowed" the religion
Christians don't even allow wives to suck off their husbands. Islam permits any sexual act (except anal) with your wives.

[Anonymous No.18862806]

>>18862785
What's bad about anal? Hygiene or something?

[Anonymous No.18862812]

>>18862785
Not the other guy, but there is virtually no conversion. On the contrary, some muslims become atheist privately. If Islam ever takes over in the west, it will be by out-breeding the natives.

[Anonymous No.18862818]

>>18862255
The Ottoman Islam was very lax and permissive, I mean remember all the Janissary homos even? Salafi extremist "no fun allowed" sect was a direct response to Ottoman and Persian "much fun allowed" approach.

[Anonymous No.18862821]

>>18862818

>>18862796

[Anonymous No.18862826]

>>18862406
>Why do you pay money to your religion?
>Pay to my religion instead and I will like you
Funding scientism from public funds is no different from paying jizya to Muslim overlords.

[Anonymous No.18862834]

>>18862806
AIDS and its disgusting

[Anonymous No.18862846]

>>18862580
>No fault divorce
>aren't stopping you from having a family either
You absolute mongrel. Few men have the balls to kill the unfaithful wife and her male relatives for the unfaithfulness, much less for the "I'm border I'm divorcing you" type degeneracy, which does not mean the lower class of servant men should not reproduce - who's gonna serve us then?
There will always be cowards and laybacks in servant roles, that is their life mission and they should have a cozy servitude.

[Anonymous No.18862853]

>>18861433
I hate when retarded illiterate poltroons walk into lit with their dumb threads.

[Anonymous No.18862866]

>>18861433
atheists really are the dumbest people on the planet. can't even bother to learn how religion evolves over time!

[Anonymous No.18862867]

>>18862846
>who's gonna serve us then?
There's enough Africans to last us for a generation or two. Beyond that - who cares, it's not like you're having children to pass on your legacy to, amirite?

[Anonymous No.18862894]

>>18861433
>The next phase I call the Second Religiousness. It appears in all Civilizations as soon as they have fully formed themselves as such and are beginning to pass, slowly and imperceptibly, into the non-historical state in which time-periods cease to mean anything. The material of the Second Religiousness is simply that of the first, genuine, young religiousness-- only otherwise experienced and expressed. It starts with Rationalism's fading out in helplessness, then the forms of the springtime become visible and finally the whole world of the primitive religion, which had receded before the grand forms of the early faith, returns to the foreground, powerful, in the guise of the popular syncretism that is to be found in every Culture at this phase.

The Second Religiousness began in the early 21st century when the "Four Horsemen" turned atheism into a religious cult. What is striking is that religion itself is ultimately secondary to the religious thinking that produces it. The return to religious thinking already pervades us. This is what we now see with Drumpftards and SJWs who both behave like children convinced of irrational ghost stories. Take either the unquestioning fanatical belief in science or the similarly fanatical belief in conspiracy theories. Both are mysticism.

Catholicism and Protestantism which have been the main historical forms of Christianity will cease to exist in favor of a new idiosyncratic Christianity of the type that Jordan Peterson promotes. Although it will resemble Gothic Catholicism far more than the rationalism of Protestantism. Today everyone is bored of rationalism. What they seek is a return to the mysterious mysticism of the time before rationalism i.e. the Catholic Middle Ages. This is the reason for the ubiquity of medieval themed media in popular culture since the time of Tolkien.

Our entire civilization is unconsciously willing a return to the Middle Ages. Very few today can recognize this. Everything that defined the period 1400-1900 is today disappearing; first and foremost rationalism, but also individualism, the nation state, high art, and of course, the book. Western Civilization is like an old man in his Second Childishness drifting into sleep.

[Anonymous No.18862906]

>>18862894
>most people are behaving like children
Honestly, wasn't this always the case?

[Anonymous No.18862918]

>>18862894
I agree with most of your post except where Catholicism is concerned. The Church is very resiliant and I think that any future Christianity would have a place for it. Peterson himself is interested in Catholicism. I do think Christianity will more resemble Medieval Christianity than what it looked like after the Enlightenment, but that just strengthens the hand of the future of the Church. After all, the Latin Mass is getting popular again.

[Anonymous No.18862922]

>>18862894
>Our entire civilization is unconsciously willing a return to the Middle Ages
Yeah I'm sure that women want nothing more than to give up their Tinder hookups and cozy HR jobs to become captive baby factories again.

[Anonymous No.18863025]

>>18862867
I am married though and plan on 2+ children. Negro blight never solved anything and is a total net loss, I mean look at the USA, how did that farming equipment go?

[Anonymous No.18863042]

>>18862918
>the Latin Mass is getting popular again
Didn't the Pope say to not do that

[Anonymous No.18863088]

>>18862922
Yes, because of course women in the Middle Ages were captive baby factories. I know because the award-winning documentary "The Handmaid's Tale" clued me in on the historical facts of the matter.

[Anonymous No.18863094]

>>18863025
The "you" was a second-person plural.

[Anonymous No.18863097]

>>18863094
Should have used ye. Thy fault.

[Anonymous No.18863098]

>>18861433
utterly and unredeemably based pic

[Anonymous No.18863122]

>>18862922
Yeah they do. They're in inauthentic despair. It's not possible for you to get this confession from them because as a straight white man, you are the "enemy" and she feels like in opening up to you she'd betray the collective. Her sin is her mindlessness in the face of sin. To move her into a more intense and immediate state of despair you have to get in into her mind that there is something eternal in her "self" that all her actions reflect against.

[Anonymous No.18863128]

>>18861513
This

[Anonymous No.18863134]

>>18863122
>>18863088
I can literally smell your virginities through the screen lol

[Anonymous No.18863135]

>>18863094
Modern English is so awkward, dost thou agreeth?

[Anonymous No.18863153]

>>18862656
>>18862678
This but unironically.

[Anonymous No.18863163]

>>18863134
And what do you make of it?

[Anonymous No.18863173]

>>18863134
> argument from muh holes
Anon, is "lol incel" your go-to reply on any topic that makes you confused?

[Anonymous No.18863190]

So what you're saying is that Catholicism will become more popular and we're going to see more converts?

[Anonymous No.18863208]

>>18861526
Even if it would happen and it would bother me at all, how exactly would being part of another retarded religion help me in this case?
So I can put a cardboard helmet on and larp as faggy templars with you faggots?

[Anonymous No.18863239]

>>18863042
Francis is old. All these anti-Latin bishops and cardinals are old. They're old men realizing they're running out of time, so they're lashing out. It's the death throes of a dream that was never fulfilled, and never will be.

[Anonymous No.18863345]

>>18861433
>LE everything evolves juts liek on discovery XD

Definitely the worst intellectual offense of Materialism.

[Anonymous No.18863410]

>>18861453
/thread

[Anonymous No.18863427]

>>18861453
This. Smells like 2012.

[Anonymous No.18863492]

>>18862007
Probably not desu, Muslim parents in Bongland are already rolling back LGBT lessons in schools because the vapid, braindead husk of liberalism has painted itself into a situation where Muslims are more oppressed than fudge packers.

[Anonymous No.18863494]

>>18862922
Tinder for women is porn for men, a caustic ersatz merely emulating the real deal.

[Anonymous No.18863515]

>>18862006
Based sun bro.

[Anonymous No.18863555]

>>18863515
the moon has already defeated the sun

[Anonymous No.18863563]

>>18863515
>>18862006
Uhhh, sunbros? Debunk this?!

[Anonymous No.18863593]

>>18861433
growing up is hugging trees?

[Anonymous No.18863656]

>>18861433
last panel should be "trust the science and take the jab"

[Anonymous No.18863667]

>>18863656
Taking the jab is anti-science tho. The only reason I don't believe in this whole scamdemic is because it's extremely unscientific.

[Anonymous No.18863682]

>>18863153
I wasn't being ironic

[Anonymous No.18863684]

>>18861433
I've never understood why atheists make fun of religious folk for worshiping someone "in the sky"? No Christian I know, no matter how trashy or ignorant, understands anything other than heaven being an entirely different realm. No one thinks God is in the sky, that's ridiculous.

[Anonymous No.18863688]

>>18861433
The growing up part is realizing that religion had more of a truth value than irreligion but that you still don't know where to go

[Anonymous No.18863701]

>>18862724
There must be NIGGERS here

[Anonymous No.18863710]

>>18862853
What are you talking about? He only asked for a book recommendation on a specific topic. What shit are you trying to pull from the air already, you fucking schizo?

[Anonymous No.18863725]

>>18861453
ahahahaha... don't be upset

[Anonymous No.18863734]

>>18863563
>>18863555
>look outside window
>sun
>only see moon when sun shines on it
Feeling pretty fucking good to be sun Chad.

[Anonymous No.18863757]

>>18863734
>Ask not the sun
>Why she sets
>Why she shrouds her light away
>Or why she hides her glowing gaze
>When nights turns crimson gold to grey
>For silent falls the guilty sun
>As day to dark does turn
>One simple truth she dare not speak
>Her light can only blind and burn
>No mercy for the guilty
>Bring down their lying sun
>Blood so silver black by night
>Upon their faces pale white
>Cruel moon bring the end
>The dawn will never rise again

[Anonymous No.18863839]

>>18863757
>Her light can only blind and burn
>No mercy for the guilty
Das rite.
>The dawn will never rise again
Kek alright. Call me again when that happens.

[Anonymous No.18863850]

>>18861453
This, polytheism mostly evolved out of ancestor worship.

[Anonymous No.18863853]

>>18861526
I am a fresh Christian convert, where do Christian sit in the to-behead list of Islamists? After the Jews, before the atheists? I need spiritual preparation

[Anonymous No.18863895]

>>18861433

[Anonymous No.18863966]

>>18863895
fixed

[Anonymous No.18863989]

>>18861433
Replace growing up with ideology and ideals. Or just 'concepts'

[Anonymous No.18864004]

>>18863853
Christians are "people of the Book" and in theory would be relatively okay since they both worship the same God. Hatred between the Abrahamic religions is relatively knew and mostly down to politics.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/People_of_the_Book
Case in point, same would go for Jews if the continued existence of Israel didn't fill Muslims everywhere with the fury of a thousand suns.

[Anonymous No.18864012]

>>18864004
Based Islam frens beheading me last

[Anonymous No.18864206]

Religion is exclusively a third world phenomenon, which is why it's disappearing in the civilized world. An extraordinary amount of military spending has led Americans to believe they're at the cultural forefront, when really it's a backwater.

[Anonymous No.18864251]

>>18864206
the new religions in the civilized world are femminism and other conspiracy theories

[Anonymous No.18864375]

>>18862405
Never said so

>>18862298
>literally billions
Just look at church attendance rates or pew polls or whatever you want on religious views of Christians and the like.

[Anonymous No.18864544]

now just add le cigarette smoking man as the sun

[Anonymous No.18864585]

>>18861433
woah... made me think!!

[Anonymous No.18865004]

>>18864206
>which is why it's disappearing in the civilized world
Because feminism, communism, libertarianism and the general plague of SJW mobs are not cult-like behaviors.

[Anonymous No.18865908]

>>18862406
Sounds like the cult of "scientific research" is shaping up to become just another religion.

[Anonymous No.18865959]

>>18862638
Yeah no, all girls I personally know backed off once their man asked if they could have a serious relationship. Obviously women are not to blame for the weakness of men, but they are the other half of the problem.

[Anonymous No.18866193]

>>18864004
>Hatred between the Abrahamic religions is relatively new
Most retarded post I have ever seen. Kys idiot.

[Anonymous No.18866340]

>>18862006
Based and sunpilled

[Anonymous No.18866666]

>>18862638
I hope you die irl

Girls like me fine. It is still dangerous and difficult to start a good family. And I am not talking about myself. I am talking about a society wide trend. You callous waste of oxygen.

[Anonymous No.18866674]

>>18862580
And how many people do you know who are divorced or childless? You fucking pea brain retard. Whether or not some people succeed it is still a massive social problem. How many people do you know who aren't heroin addicts? Does that mean heroin addiction isn't a big problem? idiot

[Anonymous No.18866678]

>>18862744
Yeah, islam is at odds with the western socratic tradition really. Whether christain or atheist, its equally unappealing.

[Anonymous No.18866688]

>>18861433
a lot of people dont understand the purpose of a higher power, its always
>NOT REAL
wisdom is greater than knowledge after a certain point

[Anonymous No.18866787]

>>18861453
The last square ruins it irredeemably