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>history is written by the victors

>> No.18866704

>>18866702
Yes that is true

>> No.18866767

>>18866702
I don't know where this retarded platitude comes from. Literally talk to any academic historian and they will explain how it isn't true.

>> No.18866771

>>18866767
>Literally talk to any academic historian and they will explain how it isn't true.

Name 3

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Every history book I had to read in school, the good guys always won. What are the odds?

>> No.18866856

>>18866771
Dr. Terance Mayer, Dr. Rachel Cornell, and Dr. Lacy Martin

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>>18866856
>2 are women

>> No.18866882

>>18866767
Why would they be honest about it kek

>> No.18866901

>>18866876
nice goalpost move faggot.

>> No.18866902

>>18866702
Ancient histories were mostly by the equivalent of /int/posters as far as I can tell.

>> No.18866906

>>18866901
kys

>> No.18866910

>>18866882
lol what does this even mean?

>> No.18866922

>>18866767
What are some situations where the losers had the biggest impact?

>> No.18866933

>>18866702
Obviously there's an exception here if the victors are illiterate and the losers are not.

>> No.18866939

>>18866922
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_the_Allia

>> No.18866953

>>18866906
Wanna know a secret? I actually just made those names up because I wanted to see your reaction after I named 3.

>> No.18867058

>>18866851
As a Canadian looking back on how our many Great Canadian Conflicts were taught to us:
>British vs. Natives
balanced if not in favour of the natives
>British vs. Quebecois French
balanced
>1812
in favour of the British
>WW1
balanced
>WW2
in favour of the allies

>> No.18867131

>>18866702
He literally shipped for Sparta though

>> No.18867173

>>18867131
yeah thucydides is a terrible example
better is caesar, some have labeled his conquests genocidal
thucydides was happy that athens lost because he was exiled by the athenians

>> No.18867232

>>18866702
Bullshit. Custer was a hero up until recently after Little Big Horn, and William Wallace is still a hero in Scotland.

>> No.18868392

>>18867173
Is Caesar the only good general who wrote historical memoirs? Thucydides and Josephus were garbage generals

>> No.18868413

>>18866702
>history is written by the queer theorist feminist antifascist neomarxists

>> No.18868417

>>18867232
Custer isn't a great example because his side won the war.

>> No.18868754

>>18868392
I mean it’s a few millennia off but Grant wrote good memoirs. It’s mostly been the trend through history that while great generals are often no doubt intelligent people, it’s not usually the type of intelligence that’s of a literary bent. Which is why I think it’s only natural that the best memoirs in history are often from those people who are writers or poets already, with memoirs being incidentally only a part of their literary output. Like Grant’s writing was good for his time but it has nothing on a truly literary memoir/autobiography by his contemporary Henry Adams for example who was a real man of letters

>> No.18868756

History is written by historians lol.