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Write some New-Age gobbledeguk and get published. Also, "WitchLit" hate thread I guess
"Witchcraft"
>Like a cookbook, but Recipes don't have to taste good
>Techniques and Rituals don't have to achieve any results ("your intention was impure" etc...)
>Crystals, incense, cauldrons, herbs..pad your page count with what essentially amounts to an Etsy shopping list
>Crystal/Herb/Talisman descriptions are even easier to bullshit than horoscopes (utterly unfalsifiable)
>Round out the remaining pages with some woke schlock essays about how white men are evil, how to 'decolonize your practice' and how to teach demons about climate justice.

even if Ms. Frankie wholeheartedly believes the retarded nonsense she memes on her Chinese malware app platform, I honestly respect her ability to bamboozle her way into the publishing industry and grift even bigger retards than her.
Well done you crazy bitch, well done.

>> No.18878794

>>18878435
It’s sad to see what middle class white women and gay men have done to witchcraft and occultism. Victorian era witchcraft and occultism - the Golden Dawn, Thelema, Gerald Gardner’s original witchcraft covens, etc. - was very based. Now witchcraft and occultism is just about mixing leftist politics with burning sage and meditating with crystals.

>> No.18878805

>>18878794
>gay men
It seems to be the exclusive domain of women. Where are you finding these homo-sexual wizards?

>> No.18878826

>>18878794
you should see the shit that witch-tumblr used to, and witch-twitter get up to. Bone stealing, auto-amputation, trying to mass hex the taliban... I only hear of these things peripherally, so I can only imagine what it's like in the thick of it.

>> No.18878831

>>18878805
The majority of men involved in modern occultism and witchcraft are gay. Look up any popular author of books on magic and the occult from the past few decades; 90% chance he is gay.

>> No.18878837

>>18878805
Naw, I've got some gays and witchcraft pamphlets from the 80s.

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>>18878794

>> No.18878861

>>18878846
This is very accurate

>> No.18878872

>>18878826
>trying to mass hex the taliban
Don't they literally carry around black banners with protective verses scrawled on them? Good luck with that, bored middle class white women.

>> No.18878881

>>18878826
>trying to mass hex the taliban
Kek, I’ve been following this. People started making posting about it on r/witchesvspatriarchy and they eventually made a whole new subreddit for it. Users from rdrama.net made troll posts there telling them they should travel to the Middle East because their spells will work better the closer they are to the Taliban.

>> No.18878894

>>18878435
This is just the female version of gnostic/evolatards kek

>> No.18878906

Anyone notice e-girls like IndigoWhite and Belle Delphine have very similar pagan / satanic designs to their apartments and clothing? It seems like most of them are satanists. And now also we have millions of demented girls claiming to be witches. It’s all very funny to see a girl who listens to Call Her Daddy and complain to her dad about college claim she’s a witch, but at the same time I can’t help but believe they really are witches. I’ve known several that have weird inherent obsessions with witchcraft and the history of witches as of recent, and some with interests in Ra and Egyptian occultism, and not just the semblance of an interest. It would explain a lot about where the world has gone, about the people you meet and their character, about the mobs of people who seem to be moving around like zombies, about the women who turn from their comfortable upbringing into bedazzled whores. If a girl tells me she’s a witch, I might just believe her.

>> No.18878909

>>18878846
i used to date a stoner chick in undergrad who was into wicca. crazy chicks having the best pussy is true

>> No.18878919

>>18878906
People are becoming more interested in alternative religions and spiritual practices (such as witchcraft) because of the decline of traditional religion and the fact that traditional religion seems to offer people nothing. If the Catholic Church were smart, they’d revive mystical and meditation practices (like the spiritual exercises of Ignatius of Loyola) and educate the public on them. A lot of people don’t realize traditional religion has much of what they seek in alternative religions. But of course, traditional religion (the Catholic Church especially) seems intent on killing itself.

>> No.18878929

>>18878919
Call me when they've revived the Eleusinian mysteries or maybe the cult of Antinous.

>> No.18878931

>>18878919
Do you think that’s why, or is it because those things I listed are evil and people nowadays are evil. They’re the opposition to normal religion.

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>>18878909

>> No.18878956

>>18878929
I’m really interested in ancient Greco-Roman mystery cults. It’s a shame they were completely stamped out. It’s very difficult to revive them because most of their beliefs and practices have been lost to time. The most successful effort to revive them was Victorian era occultism was an attempt to revive these sorts of traditions, which is why Victorian era occultism is so based. Unfortunately, occultism has become so watered down over the past few decades, it’s a shadow of its former self.
>>18878931
These practices aren’t evil, they’re people trying to seek spirituality in a spiritually dead world. And even if they were evil, their prevalence today couldn’t be because people today are especially evil. Humans have always been evil; human nature is essentially evil. The only thing that has changed is it is now socially acceptable to practice evilness publicly.

>> No.18878961

>>18878956
>The most successful effort to revive them was Victorian era occultism was an attempt to revive these sorts of traditions, which is why Victorian era occultism is so based.
*The most successful attempt to revive them was Victorian era occultism, which was people explicitly trying to revive these ancient mystery cults. That’s why Victorian era occultism is so based.

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>>18878956
>satanism isn’t evil
>witchcraft isn’t evil

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>>18878919
Although this may be hard for 2016iggers to understand, even though it applies to them, most native westerners (i.e. those not of recent immigrant stock) were not raised as devout Christians, and Christianity consists of buildings where people get married or have grandma's funeral, bad news headlines, and odd political controversies that seem to involve the rustic (or perhaps "pagan") population that lives outside cities taking issue with the latest advances in human or civil rights. And that's really it. But all the alternative religions, whether new ager or traditional practice, are not-Christianity, and as not-Christianity the spiritual seeker can project on to them all the things it wants that Christianity does not seem to offer. And not offering vs not seeming to offer are effectively the same thing for pragmatic minds, since who would bother to investigate what they already dislike?

>> No.18878974

>>18878956
I mean, paganism and druidism are also lost to time, and these idiots are all about that. They're easy to revive so long as you're willing to ignore or handwave the fact that they have nothing to do with the ancient practice.

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>>18878969

>> No.18879072

>>18878435
>how to teach demons about climate justice.
Based. Why should only humans suffer the environmentalists?

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>>18878435
Why would anyone bother teaching demons about climate change? Of course demons know about climate change; they caused it!

>> No.18879601

>>18878805
>Where are you finding these homo-sexual wizards?
>>>/r9k/

>> No.18879677

>>18878794
Gardner's original (and 'original' is the right word) coven was equally gay though

>> No.18879694

>>18879535
Yep, Mammon

>> No.18879749

>>18878931
Notice that the worship of Lilith among feminist witches has coincided with their weird celebratory attitude towards abortion. These people believe the demons were misrepresented by Christianity and Judaism, but regardless of the good goddess they're imagining, they still tend to end up mimicking the evil behaviour they're traditionally associated with, like killing babies. Satanists all act like arrogant assholes too.

>> No.18879788

>>18879749
I’ve wondered (as a non-Christian, so I might be completely wrong here) if things would be different if Christianity in America had placed more of an emphasis on the virgin Mary. Maybe if women felt like there was a “spiritual feminine” within their religion that they could connect with, they’d be happier within it and they wouldn’t pursue alternative religion. I get the feeling that if Gnosticism takes off in these circles, a lot of these women will like it because of Sophia’s importance.

>> No.18880185

>>18878837
Put up or shut up. Titles and/or publishing history.

>> No.18880191

>>18878435
I rather fuck her pussy good

>> No.18880199

>>18879677
Wrong. Gardner was based.

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>>18880185

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>>18878826
>>18878881
>when you fuck around and get cut down by Allah (swt) Himself

>> No.18881307

>>18878435
>WitchGrift instead of WitchGraft

You had one job.

>> No.18881340

>>18881295
I think this is the altered “demonic mushroom wojak” copypasta

>> No.18881349

>>18881295
>>18881340
Let's entertain the idea that this is true and that we can call entreat with suprahuman personalities to affect our world. Why would some dumb yuppie have any power over some entity that protects entire nations?

>> No.18881541

>>18878794
The Victorian were gay too

>> No.18881674

>>18880199
He wasn't, he was an autist who bullshitted a witchcraft lineage so he could do nudism with gullible hippies. His wife had zero interest in it which should tell you something about their sex life imo

>> No.18882010

>>18878919
Catholic Church is death process friend

We're going back to the 14thC when people are just going to do their own thing, the Church will get mad, but can't stop them producing good work

Hopefully it recovers like it did then though

>> No.18882019

>>18878435
>peddling devilry and false cures for the love of mammon
enjoy hell i guess

>> No.18882023

>>18878919
"traditional religion" includes heretical and suppressed beliefs anon

read carlo ginzburg

>> No.18882053

God I want those witchy zoomer sluts on my dick. What do?

Already read two books on tarot and ordered a deck. Growing long hair and goatee too.

>> No.18882242

>>18882053
just look good and talk to them

>> No.18882661

>>18879677
Gardner actually hated faggotry

>> No.18882730

>>18880873
I like that green man motif

>> No.18882959

>>18882053
Trick them into thinking you've cast an irrevocable love spell on them. You may end up getting your dick lopped off, but the sex up to that point will be worth it.

>> No.18883184

>>18878906
>Anyone notice e-girls like IndigoWhite and Belle Delphine have very similar pagan / satanic designs to their apartments and clothing? It seems like most of them are satanists.
I sincerely doubt they are actual satanists. It’s most likely just for an edgy dig at conservative christians. maybe they think it’s goth. or just shock value. you know, typical young people stuff. as for the pagan shit I’m sure they think it makes them look cool and interesting, I doubt they even know a single thing about any form of paganism. I cannot picture a legitimate satanist e-girl, they’re doing it for attention, not for the anti-christ. I can however picture a pagan one or at least an attempt at being pagan lol

>> No.18883400

>>18878962
>>18878976
kill yourself nigger

>> No.18884115

>>18881295
The paganlarpers in that thread are completely clueless on metaphysics, ontology, and theology. The literally believe magic works like it does in HP and D&D, and they can only think of its application in a social and political context.

>> No.18884133

>>18878435
Something about the intersection of her face, expression and pose makes me want to violently assault her. I keep coming back to this image just to get more and more angry. And no, this is not some variation of the 'hatefuck' - I simply have an urge to cause her physical bodily harm.

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>>18884133
careful anon
she's got DIANA on her side
>I know that feel
>I too, feel that feel
don't visit her tiktok anon, these are nowhere near the most insufferable ones

>> No.18884241

>>18881295
The stories they make themselves.

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>>18884133
not all bad though
I understand pillories, dunkings, hangings, burnings and the Inquisition a bit better now...
because I've experienced the same violent revulsion directly

>> No.18884247

>>18884239
Radical slacktivism meets slave morality

>> No.18884417

>>18884246
>I understand pillories, dunkings, hangings, burnings and the Inquisition a bit better now...
I have come to the conclusion that all of these were justified, and not in the Hobbesian sense either. I've also found out recently that the ancient druids burned witches, and many shamanist tribes forbade communing with the dead.

>> No.18884424

>>18878906
They're just lazy narcissists who spend too much time on the internet. I'm sure most are just roleplaying and keeping the illusion going. Egirls doing it is marketing. You realise many of these girls are running a business and are very aware of trends and how to game the internet, right? It's simple enough to assume the aesthetic and give a nod here and there.

>>18878919
Except there's no actual religious feeling or understanding. Their religious feeling, what little there is of it, only extends to things they already have deep faith in, the liberal-progressive orthodoxy of today derived from Christianity (as intellectualism is). However, as the name would indicate, very little depth is examined and so deeper topics and awareness are totally undeveloped in most of the population. That it is say, they are incapable of religiosity in the generous sense. I don't particularly like religion but this is a noticeable thing in an irreligious culture. It's why they are so prone to superstition, cults, and fanaticism- putting too much stock in their petty prejudices. One-dimensional and associative thinking. Even literature dies in these conditions. Religion cultivates and facilitates philosophical inquiry and spirituality. They are utterly devoid of these and only use it as a means to stroke their egos or profit.

>> No.18884448

>>18884247
Activism is inherently slave moralism.

>> No.18884880

>>18884424
>Their religious feeling, what little there is of it, only extends to things they already have deep faith in, the liberal-progressive orthodoxy of today
this is true
all 'witchtok' witchs seem to have the exact same political views.
I can't name any other religious movement like that. Even extremely devout 'conservative' religions have deep disagreements over doctrine, practice and dogma
not so with eWitchcraft

>> No.18885438

>>18884448
>>18884247
literally
>thoughts and prayers

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>>18878805
>Where are you finding these homo-sexual wizards?
reddit, where else

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seethe

>> No.18885547

>>18885449
>atheist
>magic
How can atheists sincerely practice magic and get results when they deny the metaphysical and the spiritual?

>> No.18885615

>>18885547
They accept a metaphysical system where magic works, but they don't believe in God(s). Spells rely on their personal energy and willpower, and the gods are just archetypes in their subconscious. Chaos magic is like that as far as I know

>> No.18885690

>>18885615
So they believe the universe is governed laws without a maker, lock a clock without a clock maker, and the laws just function perfectly that way because reasons?

>> No.18885702

>>18885690
>lock
like

>> No.18885705

>>18885449
Got banned from that subreddit for posting Galatians 5:19-21

>> No.18885863

>>18885473
Ancaps don't fall into any religious/secular tribe.

t. Schizo Ancap

>> No.18885879

>>18884239
>protection spells
Are they gonna cast protection spells on the government, police, and cops who killed Floyd? JESUS CHRIST I know what she means but could people talk properly. I'm currently having an argument with my sister because she refuses to speak English properly then gets pissed at me for not "catching her drift".

>> No.18885900

>>18885863
thats because you are a non entity

>> No.18885935

My gf is kind of getting into the crystal crap but minerals are based so I like it

>> No.18886136

>>18881295
Lmao praise the moon God هبل (Hubal)

>> No.18886988

>>18878919
>But of course, traditional religion (the Catholic Church especially) seems intent on killing itself.

the natural way of things

>> No.18888121

>>18885473
i honestly want to believe in magic but i can't even understand it. how could anyone believe in stuff like the law of attraction in this postmodernist world?

>> No.18888254

>>18888121
how can you be a materialist in this post-post-modern world?

>> No.18888303

I work at a library and we're buying dozens of these dumb things. I can't explain it. That and cozy mysteries that come with shitty recipes for some reason.

>> No.18888308

>>18879788
Catholicism honors Mary a lot. It's common, especially among the growing Hispanic population. This is just godless degenerates desperately grasping for meaning after having rejected every intellectual, cultural, and religious tradition with an actual history.

>> No.18888446

>>18885473
Styxhammer666 guy is a libertarian and probably the biggest pagan e-celeb.

>> No.18888457

>>18882053
>God I want those witchy zoomer sluts on my dick. What do?

Without crossing over in to edgy satanist territory set yourself up as a risk taking bad boy witch who isn't afraid to be a little "dark". Warrior spirituality is what you want to exude, rather than edgelord grimdark.

>> No.18888502

>>18888446
Civic nationalist.

>> No.18889114

>>18878435
Considering how much "esoteric" lit is posted it's a bit surprising that we don't see these books as well. But I guess it's because of "the wiminz".

>> No.18889157

>>18878919
For a lot it's just cool quirky aesthetics and nothing more, but then again you'd be a fool to expect a woman to do something with a deeper meaning.

>> No.18890467

>>18888303
women. women are the only ones who read books now therefore you get this

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>>18878805
>>18878435

>> No.18891208

>>18878435
how is this any different than you fags getting into esotericism and occultism and reading the vedas and shit

>> No.18891215

>>18889114
people on here post fash magick

>> No.18891267

Is it still late to get into this market? I mean making a whole fucking brand for witches where i will sell crystals and other shit to them.
Ill have some cute ass logo with a pride month, black history month specials. Ill me "in touch" with the community and post news and other shit as a native ad for selling them all of this dumb shit.

>> No.18891289

I used to be a herbarist (as in someone that takes care of a research herbarium, not a herbalist), bet I can get some schizo pussy with my knowledge of herbaceous plants

>> No.18891307

>>18891267
the profit off crystals is better than selling crack.

>> No.18891678

>>18891208
>Reading the Vedas is the same as reading some eWhores printed blogposts about why white people burning white sage is racist

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>>18878435
Witchcraft is the second religiosity. Spengler and Adorno warned of it

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>>18878435
WTF tradbros where is our magick movement?

>> No.18892215

>>18891898
>Tradbros
Most of Evola's corpus is esoteric in nature
it's only because REVOLT ended up on Steve Bannon's "Alt Right" reading list that /pol/tards started flocking to him en masse

>> No.18892679

>>18891898
The entirety of the history of Western Civilization.

>> No.18892786

>>18883400
seethe.

>> No.18893306

>>18891881
is second religiosity a kind of rebirth or is it a just a final act thing?

>> No.18893336

>"religion will vanish from the western world in the next 100 years"
>disillusioned white women: hold my blunt

>> No.18893372

>>18878794
Lol this nigga literally thinks he can do magic

>> No.18893378

>>18878906
take your meds bro

>> No.18893428

>>18891182
BUCKland

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>>18891898

>> No.18893553

>>18893306
Final act. It's Augustan era Roman Polytheism. The religion itself becomes a sham used to enact the point of the religion freed from the constraints of the religion. Essentially, it's the religion sans the piety. Wahhabist Islam is something similar. This isn't to say that people don't believe in the religion, they very much do, but they have unmoored themselves from any kind of grounding. Augustus did away with all of those pesky constraints about the piety of warfare in order to maximize the glory of roam. Wahhabism removes the piety of Islam in order to construct a grand econo-legal system. One no longer cares about the Gods or Allah but rather enacting "Roman Polytheism" or "Islam" and some kind of goal that these things encourage.

Constantine is something different; he, and the Christianization of Rome as a whole, is Magian man strangling Apollonian Man to death. The Second Religiosity will be Christianity, but gay. Woke brown refugee Jesus, but you actually pray to him. An enforcement of The Right Opinions across the globe. Realistically, we're seeing it right now. Imagine Shitlibs and BLM, but with an earnest belief in an afterlife achieved for attending a gay pride parade and dying in a car crash due to swerving off the road into the sidewalk to run down some guy in a Trump hat.

>> No.18893584

>>18888446
Styx is an atheist.

>>18893553
It's worth noting by the way that after this "Final Act", the religion just continues, albeit in an ossified form. Spengler is concerned with more than mere religions, but the religion of Faustian Man is Christianity. Faustian Man's nature means that in practice, however, Faustian Man's "final act" will be absolutely catastrophic for everyone else.

>> No.18893639

>>18893553
>>18893584
Is there any reason to take spenglerian chuuniposting seriously? How is this any different from say, the ever so whiney four ages/yugas doctrines clinged to by priestly types, who claim the world as it is is either at its lowest point or on the way there and that only the teachings of x can save us?

>> No.18893683

>>18893639
Spengler's theories are different in that he's not really trying to predict the course of time itself or something but rather the course of specific intellectual currents. For one, we can clearly see where these are born, live, and die, whereas we can't really see the prior yuga or the future one. We can see the birth, life, and death of Apollonian civilization. So, off the bat, that's a win for Spengler in my view. Secondly, Spengler's theories are, as a whole, quite impersonal. A man who wants to achieve greatness now in Faustian society can do so by technological greatness (see: Elon Musk), but there's absolutely nothing saying that you can't ship off to China and be remembered for writing the 700th commentary on the I Ching and be remembered forever for it.

We happen to be in a low point for Faustian Man, and while specific characteristics of Faustian Man make this a big deal for everyone, things haven't always been shit and won't be shit in the future (or reach a level so shitty that mankind dies out). Perhaps you might say
>Well how is that different from being in the Kali Yuga?
But I think "things were better for Faustian Man 1,000 years ago" is a tad different from "we didn't need to eat 100 trillion years ago".

I don't really see what the alternatives are as it's just empirically observable that the world is in a period of decline in many ways. We could say that everything is meaningless, but I think you can clearly see that's not the case. More importantly, Spengler's pessimism goes all the way down such that it loops back to optimism in a sense in that Spengler's rejection of certain brands of essentialism and his complete rejection of Whig History means that while yes, things are shit and will only get worse, those among us who are clever and can see the writing on the wall have a chance at unforeseen glories. The Kali Yuga is independent of men and cannot be changed by us and will fuck everyone over, but the march of culture and civilization is totally up to us and not everyone has to be fucked over by it.

>> No.18893768

>>18893683
It just smells like a new agey kind of millenarian soteriology but with his own idiosyncratic labelings. Musk is Faustian technological greatness? He's propelled by the market psycho-forces of investors quantifying their belief in his sales pitch. Heterogenous to the herd perhaps but does that make him a civilizational fulcrum? Someone has always had to do exceptionally well under any system, the people who do best under ours aren't the least bit interested in "the march of culture and civilization," that's for people like you who need to cope with not being on top

>> No.18893888

>>18893768
It's not about what propels him. He's not a "civilizational fulcrum", he's just a man who happens to want glory, and he happens to be doing it the right way: by building the biggest toy. That's what the Colosseum, the circuses, the aqueducts, and the roads of Rome were built for. What propels men to do it is really irrelevant, the point is the same. You don't think that men like Augustus and Qin Shi Huangdi weren't the same?

>culture and civilization
These are technical terms in Spengler's thought. You don't have to be aware of them. If you're taking Spengler as a Great Man theorist, you are absolutely wrong.

>> No.18893900

>>18893888
I should add: "building the biggest toy" is how you achieve glory at this stage in the culture-civilization's life. In prior eras, it was things like "the prettiest poem" or "foundational religious doctrine".

>> No.18894083

>>18893888
"Glory" is an after-image for those who don't participate in actual sovereignty and power; all those things were built for tangible purposes to benefit the society and its powerful. So if he isn't a great man theorist is he a great stuff theorist? Great stuff has to come from somewhere. If in any period we can just point to the most extreme examples of excessive exuberance and consider it glory then there is never any decline to speak of, unless a society is blasted down to subsistence or totally subordinated to another society, which itself takes over glorious-stuff procurement. So if the west is still producing glorious stuff what's the decline? The stuff is faustian instead of apollonian? An autobahn puts a Roman road to shame anyway

>> No.18895405

>>18878906
meds, now

>> No.18895456

>>18893768
You should probably actually read Spengler, and actually Hegel as well, to see what they've actually argued.
>>18894083
>"Glory" is an after-image for those who don't participate in actual sovereignty and power
Glory is the literal point of power. No one would want power if it didn't come with something so rewarding in exchange for the cost of extreme responsibility. Hedonism and pleasure can be easily acquired without power, so the reward for power must be something even greater than these motives (ultimately, the same motive/impulse that drives people towards the achievement of immortality in the religious plane). Power allows you to immortalize yourself, or at least temporarily experience what that would be like, and project your image onto reality and people's hearts and minds for longer than most people would be capable of.

>> No.18895504

It's incredible how many times you can repackage law of attraction.
New age, new thought, new you: might as well go back to worshiping funny looking rocks, it's less obtuse.

>> No.18895519

People still think the Taliban are the bad guys.

>> No.18895812

>>18891182
>wicca.webm
>not nicca.webm
Are you even racist?

>> No.18895875 [DELETED] 

>>18895519
They are. And the taliban is not the Afghan people either.

>> No.18895954

>>18878435
The spiritual connection Westerners have created to "witchcraft"/new age practice/paganism etc. I think is concerning, not because rituals that occupy themselves with the natural world are necessarily harmful or "unchristian" but because they represent a fake shell of a spirituality that once was. In the story of the golden calf, it's worth noting that the idol was not worshipped as a depiction of God or a symbol of religious devotion, but rather worshipped as God in itself. That's why I respect and even love many aspects of other religions who seek connection to God but no time for worship that begins and ends in our current material reality; this is when it becomes an idol. Astrology, tarot, spells, and the like are mostly not used in a way which is intended to increase spiritual consciousness or ones connection to nature/humanity, but rather are superstitions which hope to achieve material gain for practitioners. I'm sure these practices once had merits and I know for some they still do. But we must remember that when strip away the aesthetics, personal benefits, and identity we find in ritual, we must be left with God, i.e. a meaning of some kind to fill that void.

>> No.18896342

>>18895954
Christianity has become obsolete, the dogma has no intellectual appeal to educated populace and it lacks the edgy mystery of occultism.