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As the /lit/ board sure someone here as the best argument for sola scriptura.

>> No.18879356

A place to start for the secular.

>> No.18879389

Imagine if every American had the authority to decide what the US constitution means. Each person could do as he wished, saying that his actions fell under his own interpretation of "freedom of religion" or "freedom of association." What would come of this approach? Anarchy. Fortunately, the founding fathers created an institution called the Supreme Court that was entrusted with interpreting the Constitution. That way, through the court's decisions, a uniform legal code would be created that would treat all citizens equally. Just as a personal interpretation of the constitution would lead to chaos for the rule of law, relying solely on one's personal interpretation of the bible as a guide to Christian doctrine leads to chaos for the rule of faith.

If Americas founding fathers were wise enough to foresee the dangers of individuals engaging in private constitutional interpretation, then wouldn't the church's "founding fathers," or Christ and the apostles, see the danger in relegating Christian authority to private biblical interpretation? We read in Peter 1:20 that "no prophecy of scripture is a matter of one's own interpretation," and the author later warns his readers that some passages in the bible are "hard to understand, which the ignorant and the unstable twist to their own destruction, as they do the other scriptures" (2 Pet. 3:16)

>> No.18879436

>>18879389
holy shit. I'm going to catholic mass this sunday

>> No.18879549

>>18879389
Unironically a great argument. The only problems are that I don't respect today's Supreme Court or today's Church of Rome

>> No.18879578

>>18879549
>The only problems are that I don't respect today's Supreme Court or today's Church of Rome
What this anon said goes for me as well.

>> No.18879645

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>> No.18880016

>>18879549
Just because the Vatican is compromised doesn’t mean the early church was. So the safest bet is to stick to the patristic tradition of the first millennium up until seventh ecumenical council.

>> No.18880071

The problem with the more reasonable Protestants is that they moderate the whole sola scriptura thing until it ends up being just the denial of the infallibility of Tradition. This is hard to refute considering early manuscripts confirm the continuity of Scripture throughout the centuries.

What I tend to respond is that the idea of writing being the only historically durable medium of conveying truth is a tremendously myopic opinion, one which is totally symptomatic of the Gutenbergian age (as McLuhan would call it). The ultimate problem with the five solas is that they isolate certain media as divine and throw out all the rest as not being tied back to universal manifestation.

>> No.18880166

>>18879389
So you think the Word of God needs a man to enforce it? Surely you are mentally retarded? You think the Father our Lord has such little power that he needs Men to interpret his laws for other Men? You must surely have downs syndrome.

>> No.18880242

>>18880166
You’re kinda right. The part when the Lord tell us not to judge or condemn and forgive instead, so we can be forgiven. Makes perfect sense to me, it doesn’t need any further exegesis.

>> No.18880254

>>18879389
I asked for "the best argument for sola scriptura"

>> No.18880260

>>18880166
Science (the body of knowledge which interprets God's creation) is not open to every faggot's interpretation either; people are retarded and smart people have to interpret it for you (not that it isn't sufficiently objective enough for anyone to theoretically understand it but that it so complex that it will take some prior knowledge which, if you ignore the body of work already done in that area, will leave you in a very bad place, not to mention that it will take some genius to reproduce insights which is better excirsed trying to find new ones.). Of course, if the body of knowledge already accumulated in that area is wrong or flawed other interpretations will be needed but some scripture seems to leave no real space for serious interpretations of our religion.

>> No.18880268

>>18880260
> some scripture
*sola scriptura
Sorry phone-posting.

>> No.18880272

>>18880071
>The problem with more reasonable Protestants is that they define sola scriptura how Protestants have always defined it.

>> No.18880352

>>18880071
>The problem with the more reasonable Protestants is that they moderate the whole sola scriptura thing until it ends up being just the denial of the infallibility of Tradition.
Not at all. Scripture is part of the tradition left by the apostles. It is the only part of tradition indisputably left by the apostles, and the only segment of tradition which actually accords to the standard of dogma - something believed in always, everywhere, by all. If a council or a papal encyclical contradicts scripture, then we have every right to question whether or not it actually articulates the original and constant teaching of the church. This isn't to say that the traditions which have accreted since the days of the apostles are bad things, but they can't be the ultimate authority by which we judge what is true and what must be believed. They must be in agreement with scripture, the final authority on what God has spoken to us.

>> No.18880399

Somehow I can't imagine Paul approving of the Catholic Church or most Orthodox churches today.