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What books I can read to deradicalize me? I used to be a socialist and I was deradicalized by watching Destiny and became a liberal but then I became radicalized again by this board when I started reading light conservative works like Scruton, Putnam, and Murray that I felt had a good understanding of the modern world before moving to the heavier stuff like Benoist, Evola, Faye, Bowden and now I'm a radical again but on the other side and I'd like to read something that can deradicalize me back to the center

>> No.18983693

>>18983680
>by watching Destiny
Your political views were shaped by literally watching a single youtuber? Off yourself anon, there's no hope for you.

>> No.18983725

>>18983680
>deradicalize me back to the center
Get a job and become a single-issue voter, i.e. lower taxes. Your political phantasies will be just as impotent as any direction-brain but at least you'll be able to commiserate with normal individuals instead of the CIA

>> No.18983728

>>18983693
This was a long time ago when I was uneducated and had just started reading. People underestimate Destiny who is actually a real good debater with a decent enough understanding of economics and philosophy to the point where he can play the pragmatist and breakdown why everything you believe is either wrong or not feasible at all and 99% when they talk to him are incapable of refuting him. He shows that most people don't really think about what their believes entail in any meaningful way. Along with this he is just a good thing to throw on in the car or while doing chores and get Econ101 in the confines of a debate. Now that I'm older I politically disagree him on most things but I'm still nostalgic and see the value in bringing your politics into the real world instead of utopian larp land.

>> No.18983732

>>18983693
This.
You're the scum of this earth, OP. I feel disgusted just by being in the same board as you. I deeply hope this is bait.

>> No.18983736

>>18983732
You never watched Youtube as a teen?

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>>18983728
>People underestimate Destiny who is actually a real good debater with a decent enough understanding of economics and philosophy to the point where he can play the pragmatist and breakdown why everything you believe is either wrong or not feasible at all and 99% when they talk to him are incapable of refuting him. He shows that most people don't really think about what their believes entail in any meaningful way. Along with this he is just a good thing to throw on in the car or while doing chores and get Econ101 in the confines of a debate
this has to be bait

>> No.18983743

>>18983728
>bringing your politics into the real world
Are you a millionaire or something? What political issue do you have that you are able to manifest into policy simply by believing in it? It's all a larp. You are either commanding the useful idiots or you are one of them. Since you're here, you're one of the idiots.

>> No.18983744

>>18983740
What's bait about it? Do you think you could debate him lol I could get you on if you want. It's harder than you think. Watch those viewer call ins 99% of people who try to debate him end up like a mumbling retard.

>> No.18983747

>>18983743
To actually believe the communist revolution is coming tomorrow is for children. You work within the current system and work for feasible change. Sitting in your bedroom writing fanfiction about the future revolution is retarded

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>>18983744
>>18983747
>What's bait about it? Do you think you could debate him lol I could get you on if you want. It's harder than you think. Watch those viewer call ins 99% of people who try to debate him end up like a mumbling retard.
>To actually believe the communist revolution is coming tomorrow is for children. You work within the current system and work for feasible change. Sitting in your bedroom writing fanfiction about the future revolution is retarded

>> No.18983756

>>18983744
>he can't win a debate
Start from the premise that your opponent is wrong and work from there. If you believe that by itself you can argue for it. You don't need to believe any other position except not-what-he-said.

>> No.18983757

>>18983755
Great argument.

>> No.18983759

>>18983680
Top bait, OP.

>> No.18983763

>>18983756
It's easier said than done.

>> No.18983767

>>18983747
Sure. I'm not a communist though. But you could say the same thing for the other spergpol movements like libertarians or neofascists or whoever else is outside the norm of generating income for the government and its business partners.

>> No.18983770
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>>18983757
>online debating
You faggots should go and hang.

>> No.18983774

>>18983763
It takes practice/experience but it's no different than sales. You just sell an idea instead of a product. (inb4 whats the difference)

>> No.18983780

>>18983770
It's the same shit as school debating. Useless bad faith popularity fagness.

>> No.18983803

>>18983728
Destiny presents the nouveau intellectual of the post 2010s, where they aren't read in any sense and rely on the memorization of off-hand statistics and scant Wikipedia-tier knowledge to gish gallop the opposition in a numbers game. Destiny famously puts words in people's mouths with the classic, "You believe X, so you must believe Y," which is a shameful straw man he relies on, but not a lot of people catch it, which makes it effective. Any expertise overcomes the Destiny and Vaush types that. Martin Shekelsburg clubbed Destiny like a seal in a way that has to be seen to believe, and this was due to Destiny's expertise. Being aware of the tricks can entirely stuff his arguments, much like how Metokur walloped him simply by locking down on his tricks and asking for more information. None of this is debating either, it's just arguments for entertainment. Debate comes from a place of wanting to understand your opposition and fairly make a case, not to jam on them with gotchas. That being said, Destiny is good at what he does, whatever that is, and I agree with the occasional thing he says.

>> No.18983808

>>18983803
>it's just arguments for entertainment
this. Op, you're a massive faggot.

>> No.18983809

>>18983774
Try it out then. Go on discord and ask for a debate. You might be the guy to end his career

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>>18983809
>Try it out then. Go on discord and ask for a debate. You might be the guy to end his career

>> No.18983817

>>18983803
>Debate comes from a place of wanting to understand your opposition and fairly make a case
Lol you will never win a debate. You are confusing a cute dialectic between two intellectuals with political bludgeoning, which is for winning over enough support to humble the opponent into submission

>> No.18983819

>>18983803
I think you're wrong because he literally says during the debate that "I'm not trying to put words in your mouth if you don't think I've understood your argument tell me". I don't care about Destiny though I don't know why the thread devolved into shit. Did anyone read the rest of the OP?

>> No.18983821

>>18983809
Don't know or give a crap who "Destiny" is, but anyone with a handle like that is probably full of shit.

>> No.18983822

>>18983817
Have you never had a proper mediated debate?

>> No.18983823

>>18983759
It's not bait

>> No.18983826

>>18983819
>think you're wrong because he literally says during the debate that "I'm not trying to put words in your mouth if you don't think I've understood your argument tell me".
Why do you think he says this, anon? It's because he famously does it constantly and has been called out for it.

>> No.18983830

>>18983826
No it's because who lose like to say that is "intellectually dishonest" so to stop this he started saying this so no one could say that. Which you can't now.

>> No.18983835

>>18983728
10/10

>> No.18983836

>>18983822
That's high school level. Real debate is attempting to make an ass of the person who doesn't share your idea so your position advances. Or if you're really gullible and don't actually plan to win you can be "fair" and assume the opponent can make a legitimate case against you (since you don't actually intend to win and have the luxury of not winning)

>> No.18983837

Again can we get off the topic off of Destiny. I don't care about Destiny. I'm looking for books to deradicalize me from my right wing views brought on by this board.

>> No.18983839

>>18983830
And why would they say strawmanning and making up arguments to demean your opponent by making his position look worse be intellectually dishonest?

>> No.18983840

>>18983835
It's really not bait. Someone who is baiting could not tell you what happens in every single Debate Destiny had done almost argument for argument.

>> No.18983844

>>18983836
>That's high school level. Real debate is attempting to make an ass of the person who doesn't share your idea so your position advances. Or if you're really gullible and don't actually plan to win you can be "fair" and assume the opponent can make a legitimate case against you (since you don't actually intend to win and have the luxury of not winning)
That's high school/internet minded level. To quote something you'll understand: touch grass.

>> No.18983848

>>18983680
Theres no reason to deradicalize yourself after you have chosen the right path.

Center view politics/religious beliefs are milk toast for pussies who cant handle the fact that certain groups of people are evil and can only be dealt with using extremist philosophy.

The jews themselves are extremists who have no mercy for their victims to such an extent they control the media and education system and medical system so that the moment you are born you are circumsized and fucked up then their child psychologists go to work programming your mind to be a slave drone.

Thats not a type of people you fight with an attitude of cant we all just get along, its the same attitude that got us here in the first place.

Basically deradicalizing yourself is the same as turning yourself into a homogenized melting pot of conflicting ideas that will just make you a pussy. Its why I dont accept any abramaic religions because I think they are all spiritual cancer and practice greek hellinism.

>> No.18983849

>>18983836
So you haven't. Okay.

>> No.18983852

>>18983839
He doesn't actually do that and he has said to them please show me any example of me being intellectually dishonest and no one has been able to do it. He used to be a fast talker in 2016 which might have confused people but he toned down and now does what I said where he says "Interrupt me if I don't understand you correct"

>> No.18983853

>>18983837
Oh that's easy. You've never considered that you might be wrong. Start with people who disagree with you. Eventually you'll recognize the same dumb patterns in all polemic where what the author potentially benefits from is good and what he doesn't is bad.

>> No.18983858

>>18983848
I slightly disagree with you. I thought the same thing when I was a Marxist but eventually the walls break down and you realize that you're on the wrong path. I just want to make sure I'm not doing it again.

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>>18983844
No high school is you have an actual judge declaring a winner. Adults don't have that. They have the mob, i.e. society. You've never had to win an argument that mattered.

>> No.18983864

>>18983852
I've seen him do it. I don't know what to tell you. I've not really seen much of him either and I've seen that.

>> No.18983867

>>18983853
I used to be a Marxist so I've read all the authors. I've read some centrist stuff. Some econ books and political philosophy but nothing that tries to refute the central claims of the right wing. Something refuting the right wing ideas on tradition, culture, immigration, etc would be a good start. Any books like that?

>> No.18983871

Just stop breathing if you want to deradicalize.

>> No.18983873

>>18983848
>certain groups of people are evil and can only be dealt with using extremist philosophy.
Milktoast people do this. They've declared that (You) need to be banned from accessing financial services, regular employment, etc. and if need be imprisoned before you attack a Wal-Mart

>> No.18983893

>>18983867
The ideas are all self-refuting. The society we had previously had those ideas and dumped them all one by one. It's interesting as historical study but it can't be taken seriously. Consider, if you are radically anti-immigration from some kind of ethnocentric or nationalistic pov, how many of your own "kind" are going to line up to stop you on behalf of their friends, neighbors, employees, coworkers, spouses, children, grandchildren, etc. It's over Cletus.

>> No.18983897

>>18983893
America is done for but Europe still has a chance.

>> No.18983911

>>18983897
Yes in a hundred years there will still be villages in Carpathia with the same gene pool as under the Hapsburgs, but all the young people will have emigrated to northern Europe to be with Klaus and Khalid.

>> No.18983921

>>18983680
Why do you want to be "deradicalized"? Your beliefs are probably pretty average/centrist for a pre-WW2 man.

>> No.18983927

>>18983921
I should rephrase I don't want to be deradicalized but I'd like to read some literature that tries to deradicalize and see if it can move me more to the center.

>> No.18983932

>>18983927
What beliefs in particular do you want to not hold?

>> No.18983936

>>18983932
I'd like to read counter arguments to the beliefs of the right like immigration, tradition, culture, nationalism.

>> No.18983954

>>18983680
Judge people as individuals, but realize the reality of problems and certain trends. European white demographics are in danger due to rapidly growing Muslim populations, largely thanks to Jews pushing mass migration, and the simple bloodless solution is pronatalist laws for whites and antinatalist laws for non-whites (e.g. monetary incentive for whites to have children and banning procreation with nonwhites). Such a solution could not work with USA though. USA, unlike Europe, is beyond saving, which is fine.
Judge people as individuals and be suspicious of anything touted by mainstream media like the scamdemic.
A lot of minorities are fine with a more far-right government as long as their assets aren't seized and they can still land respectable jobs through their own merit.

>> No.18983964

>>18983936
You're looking for marxist and libertarian authors then. Those should be easy to find as plenty more have been published than far-right.

>> No.18983974

>>18983954
>fine with a more far-right government as long as their assets aren't seized and they can still land respectable jobs through their own merit.
Lmao see how long that lasts when you're blocked from promotion or turned away at a maternity ward because the government declared you "resident non-Aryan subclass 2"

>> No.18983975

>>18983680
You seem very impressionable to whatever you read. If I were you I'd unironically start with the Greeks. Read something from a culture that doesn't share you same a priori assumptions about the world and think about why you believe the things you do rather than trying to read your way to a particular viewpoint.

>> No.18983976

>>18983964
I'd rather to go from extreme to another.

>> No.18983982

>>18983680
>I used to be a socialist and I was deradicalized by watching Destiny and became a liberal but then I became radicalized again by this board
I think it's time to take a break from the computer

>> No.18983984

>>18983974
Passing pronatalist laws for whites and antinatalist ones for non-whites should be sufficient in appeasing the far-right. The problem should fix itself within a few generations.

>> No.18983985

>>18983936
Well, all arguments in favor of third-world immigration, or in favor of "anti-traditionalism", "cultural marxism", or "anti-nationalism", or other things right-wingers dislike nowadays, depend, at their core, on a belief that WW2 was a theological event, a moral revelation, as opposed to a mere historical event, that calls us to reaffirm belief in human equality and concern for victims and the marginalized as our highest values. Contemporary culture wars, from the left-wing side, are just radicalizations of this principle. To be right-wing is simply to reject the aforementioned belief system and deny that WW2 was a moral revelation.

>> No.18983989

>>18983975
Yes I'm sure the autochthonous yeoman democracy of athens will really jolt the OP out of extremely online fascism

>> No.18983997

>>18983984
There's nothing to appease. The "far" right are totally controlled from the state's perspective. You just monitor and jail them, and sometimes poke them with a glowstick if you need the bogeyman back for an election cycle.

>> No.18984018

If you're swinging between radical left and right you just have a personality type that favors extreme ideologies
You should read Industrial Society and Its Future, which combines left and right radicalism into a balanced central radicalism

>> No.18984028

>>18984018
>central radicalism
What is that, raising my taxes to pay for the extermination of welfare recipients?

>> No.18984050

>>18984018
I don't have a personality that favors extreme ideologies in fact it's the opposite. I'm very pragmatic and only about realistic and feasible solutions.

>> No.18984107

>>18983997
I don't like the far left. They get in the way of my literary aspirations.
I find the far right easier to negotiate with. Whites have a demographic crisis, and I think implementing pronatalist laws for whites and antinatalist ones for nonwhites can help benefit everyone.
However, USA is unique in that Balkanization is inevitable and there is no bloodless solution here. The far left is unhinged in the USA and destroying everything from publishing to the sciences. USA is too Jewish in spirit especially given it's founders were Freemasons.

>> No.18984113

>>18984107
>it's founders
its founders*

>> No.18984291

>>18983680
The fact you were easily persuaded by a youtuber and flip flopped ideologies so readily by reading extremists makes it abundantly clear to me that you lack critical thinking skills, and if you remained a liberal, there is no mistaking that you would've gotten the vax and fall for the state propaganda that tells you the unvaccinated are uneducated and evil. Congratulations on finding out that you're an NPC.

>> No.18984297

>>18983680
Shut up with your gay politics shit that's how you get deradicalized

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>>18983680
Although I never had a liberal phase, I was once a libertarian socialist and now am third position. It sounds like I flip flopped but it actually makes a lot of sense because I was never into the anti-white/trad stuff. I just wanted to get rid of economic exploitation, global warming, poverty, that sort of stuff. My advice is to accept that your current beliefs are your current beliefs and then to just disengage from politics. Yes, there are many bad things happening in the world but unless you're interested in making politics a huge part of your life (which it sounds like you aren't) then I would suggest focusing on other passions. Improve yourself. In a way, you are still helping the cause because hopefully your self-improvement will result in you getting a wife and popping out some White babies that you can raise according to the right values.

>> No.18984311

>>18983844
That's actually how debates work in the real world. If the 2016 and 2020 Presidential debates didn't tip you off on this, then you're a certified retard.

>> No.18984409

>>18984291
I already said the influence from Destiny was in my youth. I guarantee I've read more books than you.

>> No.18984443

>>18984409
O rly? You're still naive on the actuality of debate, and if you were critical of extremist ideas, you would point out things you can pick apart, instead of accepting them wholesale while having this vague sense of "I don't like this". You are projecting and still have a lot to learn.

>> No.18984449

Destiny is a gay faggot and so r u

>> No.18984461

>>18983680
You just have to grow up, your ideas will then stabilize. I've been a Fascist since I was born.

>> No.18984467

>>18984461
You will never accomplish state capture.

>> No.18984491

>>18984467
Maybe, but I still want to BELIEVE.

>> No.18984493

>>18983728
He's a centrist Ben Shapiro.
Seriously, I don't want to sound rude but if your political opinions are flailing around that wildly you're either an easily persuaded retard or a 16 year old. Nobody else goes commie > centrist liberal > fash.
Remember me when you deside you're an anarchist or a monarchist or whatever.

>> No.18984506

>>18984493
I never said I was fascist. I just said I was right wing. Not a big jump.

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>>18983755
>he actually thinks the revolution is coming

>> No.18984521

>>18983821
Wow so you're actually full of shit

>> No.18985518

>>18983680
>plz make me mindless

>(((radical)))
Wtf does this even mean? Retard how about you learn to critically think, learn to be pragmatic and sensible.

>> No.18985532

>>18984409
As if that means anything you low IQ parasite

>> No.18985541

>>18983728
God I hate zoomers so fucking much, I really have never hated a younger generation before until now but I fucking hate zoomers. Disgusting little faggots. I don't get it, I was raised by the internet too, I know plenty of people who were maladjusted internet retards in the 90s too, why is it only zoomers who are so bad? Why the massive acceleration in gayness?

>> No.18985656

>>18983680
Read Guenon. You could say that his views are "radical" but still inoffensive.

>> No.18985728

>>18985541
maladjusted internet retards in the 90s : based and high IQ

The internet was commercialized and reduced to the lowest common denominator, just wait for the kids who were burn in the 2010s to grow up.

>> No.18985732

check this channel
https://www.youtube.com/c/newdiscourses/videos
You also have to understand that people don't have ideologies, ideologies have people. Read Gulag Archipelago. Just learn history ffs, it's self evident. I don't understand how can you be socialist and far left when this ideology literally killed the most amount of people in 20th sentry, and every implementation of these crackpot ideas across different cultures led to similar results: totalitarianism, mass murder and famine. Not the sharpest tool in the shed aren't you? If that not helps - move to socialist states like Cuba, Venezuela or North Korea and build bright future in the end of the communist rainbow with like minded people, let the sane people live in peace and develop.

>> No.18985734

>>18983848
>Center view politics/religious beliefs are milk toast for pussies who cant handle the fact that certain groups of people are evil and can only be dealt with using extremist philosophy.
No, center view people realize that extremists like you are bad, and they keep the police on speed dial to deal with you

>> No.18985746
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>>18985734
Kike

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>this thread
embarrassing

>> No.18987419

>>18983680
Read speeches and essays by distinguished historical figures. They will ground you in reality. To get you started:

Pericles' Funeral Oration
https://sourcebooks.fordham.edu/ancient/pericles-funeralspeech.asp

Benjamin Franklin - Observations Concerning the Increase of Mankind, 1751
https://founders.archives.gov/documents/Franklin/01-04-02-0080

Theodore Roosevelt - The Duties of American Citizenship
https://glc.yale.edu/duties-american-citizenship

Aristotle - Politics
https://classicalwisdom.com/greek_books/politics-by-aristotle-book-iii/5/

The Federalist Papers
https://avalon.law.yale.edu/18th_century/fed02.asp

Plutarch - The Training of Children
https://sourcebooks.fordham.edu/ancient/plutarch-education.asp

>> No.18987453

>>18983848
>Center view politics/religious beliefs are milk toast for pussies who cant handle the fact that certain groups of people are evil and can only be dealt with using extremist philosophy.
I don't think that's true. I'm centrist and I do agree some people have to be eliminated. In the end politics comes down to who exactly gets eliminated and centrists side with the house instead of the drunk rabble.

>> No.18987471

This thread is a good example of good Bait. Good job, OP.

>> No.18987506

>>18987453
>I'm centrist and I do agree some people have to be eliminated.

This made me smile.

>> No.18987542

>>18983680

Hey i used to be in your position but i read some authors, watched some youtube videos covering their work, which helped me deradicalize. you'll want to check out Peter Hitchens, Curtis Yarvin, Nick Land, Mosca, Pareto, Michels, Burnham, they all set me straight and helped me see things in a less extreme way.

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>>18983680
Almost all the attempts ive had to 'deradicalize' me only made me more radical. Most of their arguments boil down to "yes they are technically correct, but it's actually a good thing!" or "just don't think about it".
Worst is when i argue with someone and they say "Contra has a good video on this". I wish i could murder whoever says that through the internet.

ive tried to get into far left politics to see that maybe my disenfranchisement was due to other causes, but most of them seem to be no different from regular neoliberalism, while still pretending theyre the same radicals that were suppressed in the 19th century.

>> No.18987648

>>18987616
>i'm actually quite moderate and multifaceted and some of my "radical" views always don't sit right even with me
>open about this
>would be easy to get me to admit this and "deradicalize" me
>some liberal takes it upon themselves to deradicalize me
>has no interest what i think or what i have to say
>acts like a condescending faggot
>reveals 90% of his opinions are his opinions because "the herd punishes those who dissent"
>disgusted that such a slimy craven ugly way of life exists
>find myself wanting to read and explore more radical ideas just to spite it, and to defend them from philistines like this who would gladly suppress and smother them if possible

>> No.18987796

>>18983680
You clearly have a natural inclination towards radical politics. Embrace it, the world is made to be changed.

>> No.18987841

>>18983736
YouTube didn't exist when I was a teen

>> No.18987872

>>18983680
Read Mein Kampf

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>>18983728
thanks for the laff lad

>> No.18988378

On the flip side to all of this, I don't understand how someone like a philosophy professor can expose himself to so many disparate and opposed ideas and still end up being a milquetoast liberal like everyone else.

>> No.18988392

>>18988378
Because they dont really expose themselves to that many dangerous ideas. Plenty of them support cencorship and are opposed to the idea of even reading certain authors with political or philosophical views that are unacceptable. It's similar to religious thinking.
Also if they didnt become milquetoast liberals, they would get fired

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Hey OP, I've been in a somewhat similar situation. Reading picrel made me aware of the capriciousness of my ideology. It's a great book.

>> No.18988471

>>18987419
>Theodore Roosevelt - The Duties of American Citizenship
>Of course, in one sense, the first essential for a man’s being a good citizen is his possession of the home virtues of which we think when we call a man by the emphatic adjective of manly. No man can be a good citizen who is not a good husband and a good father, who is not honest in his dealings with other men and women, faithful to his friends and fearless in the presence of his foes, who has not got a sound heart, a sound mind, and a sound body; exactly as no amount of attention to civil duties will save a nation if the domestic life is undermined, or there is lack of the rude military virtues which alone can assure a country’s position in the world. In a free republic the ideal citizen must be one willing and able to take arms for the defense of the flag, exactly as the ideal citizen must be the father of many healthy children. A race must be strong and vigorous; it must be a race of good fighters and good breeders, else its wisdom will come to naught and its virtue be ineffective; and no sweetness and delicacy, no love for and appreciation of beauty in art or literature, no capacity for building up material prosperity can possibly atone for the lack of the great virile virtues.

This sounds like rightwing extremism to me

>> No.18988534

>>18983680
All I know about Destiny is that Vaush and his fans are perpetually butthurt about him. What's the juicy gossip about this drama?

>> No.18988648

>>18983680
You seem a bit retarded anon, have you tried going to school?cyr

>> No.18988663

>>18983744
Wow debunking random retards. Truly amazing

>> No.18989012

>>18988378
In my experience most philosophy lecturers in the West are too autistically focused on their own research to care much about politics, so just adopt whatever's popular so they're not disturbed by the university.

>> No.18989285

>>18987648
I think it's contextual. Radical vs moderate are relative if we're defining moderate as supporting anything that's well established in a culture. Sometimes a radical view on a particular topic is correct in certain settings/times in others not so much. For instance a proponent of democracy wouldve been seen as a radical in 1600s, but that position today is seen as moderate. T8GR

>> No.18989312

>>18985732
I'm confused ....you're recommending a Marxist channel while complaining about socialism.

>> No.18989324

>>18989012
>just adopt whatever's popular so they're not disturbed by the university.
Really, if you do anything else you're hopelessly autistic.

>> No.18989345

>>18989324
t.Npc

>> No.18989419

>>18988471
no this is based
>t. far left
>>18989012
all of my profs were subtly pretty opinionated, just not in a gibbering way. they showed it by giving marx similar attention to Hegel in modern philosophy, embedding a detailed discussion of disability studies on bioethics
nothing shoe horned but you could see what they had their own opinions about what was ibteresting/concerning

>> No.18989443

>>18983680
>I'm a radical again
You're easily susceptible to propaganda.
You're probably 14.
Just care about yourself.

>> No.18990805

>>18983680
Read Ayn Rand.

You'll nod along through 80%
If you're sane you'll see where she jumps the shark. You'll laugh, and you'll be fine.

>> No.18990872

>>18987471
It's not bait
>>18987542
I do have to check out some Peter Hitchens
>>18988534
Destiny btfoes Vaush on the daily
>>18989443
>If it's from a centrist thinktank it's not propaganda.