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Thomas S. Cowan, in this book, talks about the germ theory, and why it is wrong. For him, germs have never been proven to be the cause of the disease, and he gives examples as to how the terrain induce the disease, not the germ. A bad terrain leads to toxicity, which needs to be detoxified. The germ, whether bacteria, or virus, is only something that manifest itself to detoxify the body. Viruses are exosomes produced by the cells of a diseases person, in order to detoxify the body.
Anons, do you still believe in the germ theory of disease?

>> No.18987511

What does he mean terrain?

>> No.18987550

>>18987511
>What does he mean terrain?
diseased tissue attracts germs rather than being caused by it.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Germ_theory_denialism
I checked about a year ago, the terrain theory had it's own wikipedia page. Short, but still.
Now, the wikipedia page about the Terrain theory has been renamed Germ theory denialism.

>> No.18987558

>>18987550
>renamed Germ theory denialism.
just makes me believe it more desu

>> No.18987596

>>18987550
>Now, the wikipedia page about the Terrain theory has been renamed Germ theory denialism.
Who could be behind this?

>> No.18987600

>>18987558
lol, this. high iq. I hate wiki liberals so much.

>>18987550
Okay, but then what IS disease? And what about infections?

>> No.18987628

>>18987600
Disease is a condition caused by your body being toxified. It's toxified by: food, unsanitary air, water, insects, and last, but not least, electromagnetic fields (comets in the past, today, radio, Cell towers, cell phones, television antennas, satellites, smartphones, wifi, high voltage lines, and many other sources).
When you body is toxified, it needs to detoxify itself. So either a bacteria, which is already inside your body, do the job, or, if it's not a bacteria, your body cells create exosomes, which are produced to detoxify the cells. It's those exosomes, that mainstream Capitalistic science, calls "viruses".

>> No.18987632

>>18987628
Pretty based, but it feels like this toxicity is inescapable, especially today. What do?

>> No.18987634

the action of detoxification makes you sick. But it also purifies your body. So, being sick, is, unironically, a good thing. Except when you are way overweight, very old. Then sickness can kill you.

>> No.18987639

>>18987634
based body
fuck medicine and fuck 'doctors'

>> No.18987644

>>18987632
use your body’s organone to induce a solar flare and wipe out technology

>> No.18987645

>>18987632
>Pretty based, but it feels like this toxicity is inescapable, especially today. What do?
Switch of all electromagnetic fields. All of them. They fuck up the Schuman resonnance, and kill birds and bees anyway.
Stop eating junk food, and (that's an ideal), only eat fresh food, fresh vegetables). Live a life with less stress.

>> No.18987651

>>18987645
Check on the vegetables and less stress. I'll cut down on screens.

>> No.18987677

>>18987651
Screens, like almost all electronic devices, emit electromagnetic fields. However, the device that emits the most electromagnetic fields is the hairdryer. But that's not the worst, since you only use it for a short period of time.

>> No.18987856

>>18987550
>Germ theory denialism
do they not understand how science works lol? i guess it works by labelling opponents as denialists or psuedoscience advocates apparently

>> No.18988412

>>18987628
So you would accept to be innoculated with anthrax I suppose.

>> No.18988559

>>18987628
how do you explain the fact that if a healthy person is exposed to a virus he gets sick without any "terrain" having been changed

>> No.18988844

>>18987628
Ok, but what actually is "toxicity"?

>> No.18988857

I have crystals that will detoxify your terrain, paypal me $19.99 and i will mail it to you no refundsd

>> No.18988908

>>18987499
>psuedoscience /x/shit is spreading from /x/ to /sci/ to /lit/


Interesting. The disease is growing exponentially more contagious

>> No.18989247

>>18987856
Characterizing something as denialism isn't anti science. More to your point, something as concrete, well studied and observed as germ theory isn't contentious in the slightest. "Denialist" is just a polite way of saying "retard," e.g. >>18987628
>>18987558
and the buffoon in OP. I'm guessing the author is one of the types that claim to have stumbled upon some grand medicine conspiracy, even though they preach things that fly in the face of common sense. That's usually the case for a lot of the anti vax literature out there... These books should have their own genre; calling it fiction just doesn't do it the imaginative justice.

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18989262

>even though they preach things that fly in the face of common sense. That's usually the case for a lot of the anti vax literature out there

>> No.18989274

>>18988559
>how do you explain the fact that if a healthy person is exposed to a virus he gets sick without any "terrain" having been changed
Airborne contagion has never, ever been proved. Not in human, nor in animals.
Here is an experiment made:
"Incarcerated soldiers quarantined at Boston and San Francisco volunteered as subjects in a series of trials aimed at studying the effects of influenza. The volunteers were repeatedly exposed to hospital patients exhibiting influenza-like symptoms in an attempt to make them contract the disease. Although the 118 men failed to develop influenza, they all received full pardons in recognition of their participation."
Source: Public Health Service (US). Hygienic Laboratory. Bulletin 1921 Feb (123): 1-97.

>> No.18989294

>>18989262
Go back >>>/sci/
>>18989274
We can't physically see most of the phenomenon explained by modern science, that doesn't make it any less real.
>an experiment from 100 years ago
Definitely a strong case.

>> No.18989300

>>18989294
hey faggot arent you gonna be late for your third jab? dont wanna catch the mu variant!

>> No.18989315

>>18987628
I’ve always believed that, for example, obesity wasn’t merely a disease of overconsumption or a mechanism to insulate from cold, but also a method to absorb toxic elements in the body. Fat cells store poison.

>> No.18989341

>>18989315
When the cope is massive

>> No.18989592

>>18987499
>>18987628
>toxins
>detoxify
Woman mode. Also how does bad terrain spread ? Like with COVID

>> No.18989643

>>18989300
Since when did criticizing germ theory deniers get associated with taking the jab? talk about rent free. Honestly buddy, I think >>>/sci/ is way more your style. You'd fit right in

>> No.18989685

>>18989247
>concrete, well studied and observed
it isn't though. indeed, no scientific model is because reality doesn't work like that. it is best determined by usefulness. when you lock yourself in one model you kill this. also, all you've got is dogma and shitty loaded slurs lmao. reinforcing dogma by requiring everything be interpreted as it is not proof of anything. it is a restriction of terms and ultimately stagnation.

>> No.18989708

>>18989685
Terrain one isn’t very useful

>> No.18990006

>>18987628
alright so how antibiotics by killing bacteria make people feel better if bacteria are there just to detoxify you?

>> No.18990227

>>18989685
>it isn't though
Why not? Surely any inconsistencies in the theory would have been ironed out by now, ir at least identified. The biggest medical developments of the twentieth century rely on these theories and our approaches to treating microorganisms. We can see these microbes infecting cells under a microscope, and we've gotten to the point where individual genes and molecular structures correspond to very specific functions that all agree perfectly with the "dogma" of germ theory.

Speaking of dogma, a well articulated theory that is consistent with our observations in nature (of which we have over a century's worth) isn't dogmatic. No one calls the theory of gravity dogmatic. Stop trying to politicize the issue of subscribing to a long established theory because you have the scientific acumen of a serf.
>ultimately stagnation blah blah
Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence, of which the deniers ITT have provided zilch. You and your ilk are no heliocentrists, just schizo retards that really should go back to >>>/sci/

>> No.18990255

>>18990243
P

>> No.18990256

>>18987499
I think parasites are more problematic because they mess with the biofilm and weaken immune system.
Detoxing helps but requires a lot of planning ahead of time. Most people in USA have candida infection.

>> No.18990407

>>18987499
>Anons, do you still believe in the germ theory of disease?
yes cause i'm not a dumb fuck schizo

>> No.18990418

>>18987856
>do they not understand how science works lol?
lol do you schizo?

>> No.18990777

Germ and terrain theory are two sides of the same coin revealing that causality is totally reversible and absurd.

>> No.18990905

The obvious counterpoint to this is that antibiotics have been proven to cure infections and diseases, even if you claim the diseases weren't caused by bacteria. So why do antibiotics work if the bacteria it kills is simply there because of toxic terrain?

>> No.18991521

>>18990777
>and absurd
yes it is absurd when you reverse it

and it is even more absurd when you start touting it as fact

>> No.18991635

Uh huh. And the proof for this theory is...?

>> No.18991772

>>18989592
>Also how does bad terrain spread ? Like with COVID
Electromagnetic fields. Probably 5G.

>> No.18991785

>>18990006
>alright so how antibiotics by killing bacteria make people feel better if bacteria are there just to detoxify you?
Getting sick to detoxify is a good thing. Even better: work seriously on the terrain. I've never in my whole life been in a situation when antibiotics saved my life. Sure that happens for people, when bacterias goes rampage in your body, probably due to a lot of toxicity.
Apart from this, there exist non big pharma antibiotics, like colloidal silver, which work, and is way less toxic for the body and your gut bacterias.

>> No.18991790

>>18990777
Well in some extreme cases, you need to kill the germ.
But that wouldn't have happened, if the person had kept a good terrain. So the terrain is dominant.

>> No.18991803

>>18990905
Antibiotics work, but if you don't let the sickness go it's way, you won't completely detoxify your body.
Again, i've never needed antibiotics in my whole life to save my life. Every time i had a cold, i never took big pharma medicine. I just let it pass. I even had some pretty bad ones. No big pharma, and of course no antibiotics. I'm still here.
Antibiotics might be useful if someone is really dying or something.

>> No.18992104

Wait, so if bacteria don't cause symptoms of disease, why does killing bacteria in a sick person alleviate symptoms?

>> No.18992209

>>18992104
Placebo and mass hypnosis

>> No.18992290

>>18992104
You don't get it, if i may say so. The disease is not bad. The disease is your body destroying toxicity in your body. Your cells detoxifying themselves. Someone who never detoxify with a bacteria or a self produced exosome (what mainstream Capitalistic science calls virus) would end in trouble.
Now yes, disease kill, but often it's people who are in very bad health from the start, so very bad terrain, lots of toxicity, and weak organs. Overweight people, people of very old age.
Now i don't deny that antibiotics might be useful, for very particular cases, but for the average healthy person in good health, they should just let the sickness do it's job. Especially if it's a cold, flu, stomach flu.
Way more studies should be done on what cause the disease, what element on the terrain is bad. For example, regarding covid, it's electromagnetic fields. So instead of giving poisonous vax to people, we should switch of 5G, wifi, and the most EMF possible. Best would be no EMF at all (internet and communication can work with optical fiber).

>> No.18992296

>>18991803
So your lack of needing medication means the entire theory is flawed? Wow Pasteur btfo

>> No.18992306

>>18992290
>Someone who never detoxify with a bacteria or a self produced exosome (what mainstream Capitalistic science calls virus) would end in trouble.
So HIV detoxifies me from my white blood cells?
Now yes, disease kill, but often it's people who are in very bad health from the start, so very bad terrain, lots of toxicity, and weak organs. Overweight people, people of very old age.
I guess malaria didn't get the memo since it primarily kills infants. Guess they don't have good "terrain."
>Way more studies should be done on what cause the disease
Way ahead of you pal, that's kind of how we got here with germ theory
>muh vax poison muh 5G muh emf
Holy fuck this is pants-on-head retarded. Take your lithium

>> No.18992325

>>18992290
>they should just let the sickness do it's job.
So like HIV, rabies, polio, ebola, etc.?
>just let the sickness do its job bro

>> No.18992348

Just a bunch of retarded mutts shitposting.
Germ theory is real, and pretty much of the Disease is caused by them, and genetic characteristic.

>> No.18992357
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18992357

>>18987550
>denialism

>> No.18992541

>>18992296
>Wow Pasteur btfo
Pasteur on his deathbed:
“The Microbe is Nothing. The Terrain is Everything.”

>> No.18992593

>>18992290
So why do healthy people get sick?

>> No.18992610

>>18992306
>So HIV detoxifies me from my white blood cells?
HIV doesn't exist. It was, is caused mainly by poppers drugs. AZT drug, in it's era, killed more aids patient than a non existent HIV.
>I guess malaria didn't get the memo since it primarily kills infants. Guess they don't have good "terrain."
Malaria exist mainly around swamps. Toxicity from the swamps. Bad terrain.
>>18992325
>So like HIV, rabies, polio, ebola, etc.?
HIV doesn't exist. I mean about HIV it's almost mainstream, there are tons of studies about this subject. So does rabies.
"The most likely cause of rabies is a form of tetanus or botulism -both are associated with clostridium toxins that the bacteria produce under anerobic conditions, as in puncture wounds. Doctors in Pasteur's day had excellent results treating dog bites by cauterizing them with carbolic acid. One doctor reported cauterization of about four hundred dog bite victims without one developing a case of hydrophobia (rabies)." Source: Thomas S. Cowan, The truth about contagion.

>> No.18992617

>>18992593
Very few people are really totally healthy. Food, EMF, air pollution, emotional stress etc.. Healthy people have a good terrain, but not a perfect one.

>> No.18992627
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18992627

>>18992610
I present to you The HIV.
Fucking brainlet.
One of the most retarded takes ever written in this site.
Are you the autor of the book?

>> No.18992770

>>18992627
Does this photograph proves anything? What you are showing me can be anything. Exosomes from human cells, for example.

>> No.18992875

>>18989300
>future name on this winter’s ICU waitlist to get intubated

At first I thought 1-3% mortality was too low to eradicate the idiots, but then they started taking equine ivermectin to finish the job. Shame we have to share medical resources, though.

>> No.18992936

>>18992875
>equine
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA like clockwork
keep slopping the media's knob faggot.
the documents from the CDC and FDA already show they know ivermectin is effective

>> No.18992959

>>18992875
also i wont be going to your gay little hospital to get anal tubed and butchered then chalked up to a 'covid' death because i live innawoods
cry more oversocialized soiboy

>> No.18994016

>>18992610
You are a profound idiot.
>cites the book in OP
with clinical tunnel vision as well I suppose. If you're the kind of person to so heavily accept the contents of a single book, something tells me you're not the sharpest tool in the shed.

>> No.18994422

>>18987499
Are people really believing this? I surely hope this is just a big troll thread. I don't even know where to start.

>muscles to go floppy
>must be the bad terrain
>find C. botulinum in the food
>must be the curative germ
>toxin from C. botulinum makes muscles go floppy
>?

Do someone really believe this thing?

>> No.18994576

>>18994422
Not everybody exposed to c. botulinum develop the disease. In fact, probably only a minority.

>> No.18994801

>>18989685
>reality doesn't work like that
Reading this phrase represents the instant I realise the one who's writing is an uneducated retard

>> No.18994922

>>18994576
Have you even read? When you inject the toxin in a muscle, the muscle doesn't contract anymore, it happens always, it's generally a cosmetic procedure.
And guess where the toxin come from? Bingo, from your fucking curative germ.
And guess what? It's the same toxin that causes botulism when you eat food contaminated with your curative germ.

>Not everybody exposed to c. botulinum develop the disease. In fact, probably only a minority
And this seems wrong anyway, I'll need a source

>> No.18994965

this thread... wow. well at least we're getting closer to activating the survival of the fit part of evolution again, so that's good.

>> No.18995076

OP is based

>> No.18995101

>>18987499
>Cowan
Hmmm

>> No.18995124

>using crystals
Its 2020 chud, we have a compendium of healing spells collected over the span of 50,000 years of human history, and you’re still using reddit rocks.

>> No.18995136

>>18995124
>>18988857

>> No.18995145

>>18987499
kek

>> No.18995389

>>18994922
>Have you even read? When you inject the toxin in a muscle
That is not a convincing way to proving infection. Louis Pasteur did this. Extracting pus from dead animals, and injecting in the brain of living, healthy animals. The injected animals died. Pasteur concluded that the virus was responsible. Was it the virus, or the pus?
Going back to your example, sure if you inject some bad components, into a healthy body, it will get sick.
However, with a clean terrain, good food, good air, clean water, botulism would not be something real.
In fact, almost all epidemics are caused by bad terrain. Bad water, bad food, bad air, and recently, electromagnetic fields.

>>Not everybody exposed to c. botulinum develop the disease. In fact, probably only a minority
>And this seems wrong anyway, I'll need a source
I repost what i posted before:
Here is an experiment made:
"Incarcerated soldiers quarantined at Boston and San Francisco volunteered as subjects in a series of trials aimed at studying the effects of influenza. The volunteers were repeatedly exposed to hospital patients exhibiting influenza-like symptoms in an attempt to make them contract the disease. Although the 118 men failed to develop influenza, they all received full pardons in recognition of their participation."
Source: Public Health Service (US). Hygienic Laboratory. Bulletin 1921 Feb (123): 1-97.

>> No.18995396

>>18995389
>you could inject pus into something's brain in a merry pasture in England and it wouldn't die
lol

>> No.18995560

>>18995389
At this point you can only be trolling, my bad that I fed you untill now, but this is my last message for people that may read this thread without much knowledge about this.

>sure if you inject some bad components, into a healthy body, it will get sick.
Then OP is wrong, because he said that diseases come only from bad terrain
And you have totally ignored my point: why does the germ that is found in botulism produces the toxin that causes the effects of botulism itself? In other words, why your curative germ produces something that makes muscles floppy if it is supposed to cure muscle floppies?

If you don't like the example of botulinum, take attenuated vaccines. Do you know why they aren't widely used anymore? Because the germ can riactivate and surprise, it gives the same manifestations of the disease that, in your opinion, simply "attracts" it. That's not an experiment made centuries ago, this is something that still happens today, for example in the treatment of bladder carcinoma with BCG (which is made inoculation a bacterium in the bladder). If your objection is that the eccipients of the drug are a bad terrain, you still should explain why the manifestations of the pathology are the same of when it occurs naturally, without those eccipient specifically making the bad terrain.

About your experiment, how the fuck does that relate with botulism? You haven't said how they were exposed to the influenza, and still that doesn't say anything about the possible different infection rate of the two germs.

>> No.18996574

>>18995560
Listen i'm not a specialist. But since you insist with botulism, i'll copy the passage from the book which talk about botulism:
"If you take aerobic bacteria—bacteria that need oxygen—and put them
in an anaerobic environment in which their oxygen supply is reduced, they
often produce poisons. Clostridia is a family of bacteria that under healthy
circumstances ferments carbohydrates in the lower bowel to produce
important compounds like butyric acid; but under anaerobic conditions, this
bacteria produces poisons that can cause botulism. It’s the poisons, not thebacteria itself, that make people sick; or more fundamentally, it’s the
environment or terrain that cause the bacteria to create the poisons."
"Life is a complex dance of nature, microbes, and organisms.
Oxygenated water produces the conditions in which the healthiest microbes
flourish and produce robust, vibrant, disease-resistant people, plants, and
animals. Microorganisms that don’t have enough oxygen become anaerobic
and produce toxins that cause diseases like botulism, tetanus, cholera, and
typhus."

>> No.18996580

"Even in Pasteur’s day, physicians doubted that hydrophobia was a
specific disease; dogs became vicious through starvation and neglect; and
neurological disease leading to insanity could happen in the aftermath ofany kind of wound, especially a puncture wound. The most likely cause of
rabies is a form of tetanus or botulism—both are associated with
clostridium toxins that the bacteria produce under anerobic conditions, as in
puncture wounds."

>> No.18996712

>>18992627
I think you need to watch this

https://youtu.be/BsT4GrimfLQ

>> No.18996756

>>18992875
Do you really believe this or are you just trying to get an epic own?

>> No.18997712

>>18996574
So now it does be the germ that causes the disease, but only if there is a bad terrain. Y'all change idea pretty quickly lmao.

I can't find anything about this supposed aerobic C. botulinum, guess it's made up

>> No.18997727

Thread theme related, if only indirectly
https://youtu.be/Bkcp04z8pE4

>> No.18997729

>>18987499
This is the kind of book to read when you want to get retard-pilled

>> No.18998235

>>18997712
Yes that was the idea since the begining, but many in the thread didn't get it. Perhaps i'm not excellent at explanation.
The terrain is toxic. The body needs to get rid of toxicity. A germ is already in the body (many germs in the body indeed). It do something positive to detoxify the body. This action, attacking the toxicity in the body, cause sickness (pain, fever). Once the toxicity has been get rid of, everything goes bad to normal.

>> No.18998275

>>18997727
Ah butterfly. Listen. The tendency of the rate of profit to fall, as well as the cyclical crisis of the Capital (each 10-12 years), caused an inevitable economical crisis in 2020.
The undeniable furerunners of this 2020 inevitable crisis were the automn 2019 phantom menace of negative interest rates. If you don't remember, do a search engine search with "negative interest rates" setting date between september 2019 and end december 2019. So warning signs of a major economical crisis were here, already by end 2019. By janurary 2020, what happened? This masquerade disease. The cover up. The smoking screen for the major economical crisis. With a bat found in a market in wuhan and the whole narrative we know.
In fact, it's not a virus which create this respiratory distress symptoms. It's a conjunction of graphene oxyde in the body, injected through vaccine, and electromagnetic fields. Wuhan was a city with many people where injected with the flu vaccine, late 2019. We suspect that "they" injected the people with oxyde graphene loaded in the flu vaccine. Wuhan was also a city test for 5G. The graphene oxyde transform the body into an antenna. Connact this antenna to 5G. Covid 19.
In fact, giving the covid 19 vaccine, loaded in oxyde graphene (that's perfectly documented on the web, and easy to find), transform people into antennas. Then it's really easy to induce every kind of health symptoms. You can give the flu on demand. Create epidemics in a few hours.
All this mess was done in order to hide the 2020 economical crisis, which was inevitable. They succeeded to do it. Congrats deep state. A second benefit is to control the proletariat even more with this, since you can control their health. You can give them disease at will.

>> No.18998302

>>18991790
>>18987499
>So the terrain is dominant
Sooo main factors of any disease are genes and environment.
When people are sick they die not due to germs, but due to inflammation.
Wow. What else is new?

t. physician

>> No.18998351

>>18998235
I believe you are confused.
"Terrain theory" does not cover ALL diseases, but only the infectious ones. For some reason you are arguing about ALL the diseases.

Modern medicine knows everything about the importance of genetical and environmental factors. The term "toxicity" has long been dissected to many factors.

>This action, attacking the toxicity in the body, cause sickness (pain, fever)
This is called inflammation. People indeed do die to inflammation when we are talking about infectious diseases (most of the times. Not always)

>The terrain is toxic
"toxic" is not the same thing as [toxins]. [Toxins] are produced by germs (bacterias) and sometimes animals and parasites.
Cl.Botulini indeed produces paralysing [toxins]. However, we can kill all the Clostridias in the world and there won't be any toxins anymore.

>> No.18998379

>>18998302
If you are a physician, read the book. Get an interest in Thomas S. Cowan publications, as well as Stefan Lanka.
https://tokentube.net/v/2509654755/Dr-Stefan-Lanka---Pandemic-Theater--History-of-the-infection-theory

>> No.18998395

>>18998351
>Cl.Botulini
This bacteria probably exist in the body of many healthy people. It's only in bad terrain condition, when the bacteria switch from an aerobic mode, to an anaerobic mode, that the bacteria produce this toxin.

>> No.18998403

>>18998379
>>18998395
All people are to a certain extent predisposed to a certain diseases - this is what you call "terrain toxicity". Same goes with bacterias and viruses - not all people get sick after exposure to HIV.
However, HIV really does exist and we can treat it. We can also improve environmental factors, so the person doesn't get sick.

You are confused yourself and you counfuse other people. There is nothing "groundbraking" in your claims. You just say things in roundabout way AND this has nothing to do with Germ theory denial.

>> No.18998411

>>18991785
Colds are viral infections you wouldn't take antibiotics for them anyway. It's obvious you know nothing about germ theory while claiming you've disproved it.

>> No.18998412

>>18987550
Germ theory is an absolute truth that cannot be refuted, only denied.

>> No.18998415

>>18998395
>This bacteria probably exist in the body of many healthy people. It's only in bad terrain condition, when the bacteria switch from an aerobic mode, to an anaerobic mode, that the bacteria produce this toxin.
Yes. Now answer me, why do you claim that [germs are not at fault] while it is clear that without the clostridia there would be no disease at all?

Not related, but there normally is Cl.Difficile in our gut, not the Botulini one

>> No.18998423

>>18989247
>Characterizing something as denialism isn't anti science.
lol

>> No.18998428

>>18989294
>We can't physically see most of the phenomenon explained by modern science, that doesn't make it any less real.
Made me laugh.

>> No.18998435

>>18989643
>germ theory deniers
Is germ theory an absolute truth?

>> No.18998436

>>18998403
>HIV really does exist and we can treat it.
http://reducetheburden.org/dr-luc-montagnier-on-getting-rid-of-hiv-naturally/comment-page-1/
>Colds are viral infections you wouldn't take antibiotics for them anyway. It's obvious you know nothing about germ theory while claiming you've disproved it.
I was talking about colloidal silver, which apparently works with both bacterias and viruses. Yes, i know that big pharma antibiotics don't work about viruses.
This medicine you are talking about, it's a cash register. It's about making profit. Capital accumulation. It's not about health. Don't lie to yourself, it never ends well.

>> No.18998437

>>18989708
It's not useful for allopathic medicine, that's for sure!

>> No.18998440

>>18990227
Very funny post!

>> No.18998444

>>18990407
lol

>> No.18998445

>>18998415
>why do you claim that [germs are not at fault] while it is clear that without the clostridia there would be no disease at all?
Yes, without the clostridia, there would be no disease, but the terrain problem in the body which cause the bacteria to switch from aerobic to anaerobic remain.
Same for the flu, if your body is toxified with toxicity, not getting sick, not getting the flu, is NOT a good thing. Your body needs to create exosomes (viruses), which acts like soap, in order to detoxify your body.
If you don't get sick, you are left with a toxic body.

>> No.18998451

>>18990418
lol

>> No.18998457

Seriously to the physicist in this thread, watch (and better read) Thomas S. Cowan and Stefan Lanka. I'm just a guy who reads books, in many subjects. I'm not a specialist. Specialists should listen and talk to specialists.

>> No.18998464

>>18992348
>Germ theory is real
So is any other theory you could name. Not much of a statement.

>> No.18998466

>>18998445
>Same for the flu, if your body is toxified with toxicity, not getting sick, not getting the flu, is NOT a good thing. Your body needs to create exosomes (viruses), which acts like soap, in order to detoxify your body.
>If you don't get sick, you are left with a toxic body.
Oh. Interesting claim.

Last question from me - what is:
>toxified with toxicity
I'm sorry if you have been asked before. You can just give the the link to the post.

>> No.18998472

>>18998457
Ok, ok. His claims are not the typical pathophysiological mainstream, that's for sure.
Don't want to offend you, but it sounds like a bunch of bullshit. I will watch at least one of his lectures.

>> No.18999083

>>18998466
>toxified with toxicity
Food (industrial), air (air pollution, even natural, like swamps), electromagnetic fields (there is an enormous lot of these, before artificial EMF, an hypothesis is that it was comets generated EMFs). Bad emotions: stress, depression. fear. Insects bites.
Those toxify the body. And then, the body create an exosome (virus, in mainstream science), to clean up the toxicity). The virus is a "soap". This action of detoxification, makes you sick. But it's a good thing.
Most people who have chronic sickness, probably have a constantly bad terrain. It is useless to treat them with big pharma. They need to improve, sometime seriously improve, their terrain. Then the sickness will most likely disappear, or be less serious.

>> No.18999138

>>18989294
Yes science stops working the longer it has existed for.

>> No.18999507

>>18998472
>His claims are not the typical pathophysiological mainstream
Mainstreamism will only lead you to one thing: drive you to the slaughterhouse. The last 20 years are proof enough of this. Lies after lies after lies.

>> No.18999660

>>18998275
> All this mess was done in order to hide the 2020 economical crisis
And thin the population (China’s motivation)
And make lots of money. Hence why they’re not letting cheap ivermectin replace their rushed and risky vaccines.
I knew about the economic crash, and the stimulus now done frequently by the Fed. I’m watching.
The vaccines are not what’s causing the virus

>> No.18999672

>>18989247
>Characterizing something as denialism isn't anti science
Sure it is, are you under the impression that science has proved anything about the natural world beyond any inquiry or doubt?

>> No.18999872

>>18999660
Why did they let cheap dexamethasone become a treatment then?

>> No.18999895

reminder that the phthalates are to blame for everything

>> No.19000010

>>18988908
back to pleddit faggot

>> No.19000030

>>18999872
Where? I haven’t caught wind of this stuff replacing vaccination. It’s a big planet though, and I’m not following it that closely anymore. Some people are getting their hands on ivermectin I’m sure. But the point is that big pharma doesn’t want these alternatives to bite into their profits

>> No.19000067

>>18987596
Big Germ

>> No.19000173

>>18999660
Butterfly, there are no viruses, AT ALL. Viruses are exosomes produced by a human body, in order to detoxify the body. Flu are mostly caused by electromagnetic fields.
1918: installation of radio: Spanish flu
1957: Powerful radars installations around the world: Asian flu.
1968: Initial defense communication satellite program: launch of many communication satellites around the world: Hong Kong flu.
2019: Elon Musk long range radio satellites, and 5G deployment: Corona.
If you are a reader of many book, read the book: The truth about contagion, by Thomas S. Cowan.

>> No.19000269

>>19000030
Well socialised healthcare systems ran trials showing dex worked (as well as tocilizumab which is of course very expensive) and it is now routinely used. Ivermectin is being tested in the PRINCIPLE trial (Oxford). I'd also point out that even the most flattering sketchy small Ivermectin trials would hardly be enough to prevent the perceived necessity of vaccines. I don't have an opinion on whether Ivermectin works, but the idea that it will cure COVID to the extent that it will affect drug companies' bottom lines is a brainlet take.

>> No.19000299

>>18987550
I'm not against germ theory, but i'm starting to realize just how primitive medical science really is