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[Anonymous No.19006301]

I'm new to philosophy and I'm really interested in it especially in philosophy of science, metaphysics ,logic and epistemology.
plz provide a a guide(apart from the obvious "start with the Greeks bro") or reading lists that can help noobs like me.
Merci.

[Anonymous No.19006397]

>>>/his/
>>>/sci/

[Anonymous No.19006401]

>>19006301
also that diagram is a pisstake
the metaphysical subsumes the logical not the otherway around

[Anonymous No.19006406]

>>19006301
Everything after descartes can be written off. Study the scholastics and read your bible

[Anonymous No.19006437]

>>19006301
Start with the Greeks
>>19006406
This. Although Heidegger can be fun.

[Anonymous No.19006444]

>>19006397
ah c'mon
>>19006401
wdym,plz elaborate since i don't have a clue what u're talking .the only philosophy i know is from this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VDiyQub6vpw&list=PLwxNMb28XmpeypJMHfNbJ4RAFkRtmAN3P
and perhaps this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SyopcVoK0EA
>>19006406
even goedel and russell?

[Anonymous No.19006468]

oh and btw this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aVnlNb0EIRA
is what motivated me ponder about the topics of philosophy that i'd mentioned(assuming gabriel is telling the truth that is)

[Anonymous No.19006489]

>>19006444
logic deals with a really small subset of things, precisely those which can be turned into predicates
metaphysics deals with anything that you can hold a notion about including the subconscious 'nature' that logic cant get at

[Anonymous No.19006497]

>>19006468
>I should get two nobel prizes
Oh, sweatty...

[Anonymous No.19006606]

>>19006489
> those which can be turned into predicates
u mean 1s or 0s and true or false right?
>metaphysics deals with anything that you can hold a notion about
no idea what ure talkin about.

anyways plz recommend reading materials,lectures,learning path(charts) or heck even university curriculums.other anons are most welcome in doing so.

>>19006497
>>I should get two nobel prizes
?
I just wish to get a better sense of everything around me including myself from a "scientific" and verifiable perspective b4 i die.

[Anonymous No.19006646]

>>19006444
A succinct take on the history of epistemology

[Anonymous No.19006696]

>>19006646
thanx and i hope its friendly to newfags

[Anonymous No.19006793]

>>19006696
You should have a basic understanding of philosophy first. It doesnt take much but it'll help a lot. You should look into intro texts like The Story of Philosophy by Durant first. If you dont understand the basics of modern epistemology, a lot of what's in the book I reccomended will go over your head

[Anonymous No.19006799]

>>19006301
/lit/ isn't a philosophy board. Take it to /his/

[Anonymous No.19006824]

>>19006301
Coppleston's manuals

[Anonymous No.19006837]

>>19006799
Cope

[Anonymous No.19006851]

>>19006397
cope, he's asking for books

[Anonymous No.19006856]

>>19006301
First things first, logic is a subset of metaphysics, not the other way around.

[Anonymous No.19006859]

>>19006856
could you elaborate?

[Anonymous No.19006891]

>>19006856
y do u anons keep saying this again and again?

[Anonymous No.19006931]

>>19006301
First things first: metaphysics is a subset of natural human discourse. Learn anthropology first.

[Anonymous No.19007053]

>>19006793
k

[Anonymous No.19007056]

>>19006891
Because it's true

[Anonymous No.19007116]

>>19007056
this
only a positivist would claim otherwise, and their entire performance should have ended with godel.

[Anonymous No.19007131]

>>19006931
you still dont get being-together without the metaphysical world. get back in line anthronigger

[Anonymous No.19007158]

>>19006931
It's impossible to alter reality by altering discourse. Ergo, and trivially, reality (metaphysics) ⊃ discourse.

[Anonymous No.19007190]

>>19007158
>using a logical statement to prove the order of something supposedly superlogical
shouldn't you be stating it as a metaphysical argument?

[Anonymous No.19007193]

>>19006444
Godel and Russel only work within the tiny domain which is consistent systems of formal logic, which are a small subset of philosophy. And don’t read Russels philosophy outside of his logic, he is retarded

[Anonymous No.19007230]

>>19006444
>c'mon
>wdym
>plz
>u're
I fucking hate zoomers. Start with traditional aristotelian logic.

[Anonymous No.19007231]

>>19007190
I am using language to demonstrate the relationships of something greater than language. Would you like me to use telepathy to make you magically understand so that you aren't deceived by the scary symbols?

[Anonymous No.19007257]

>>19006301
Start with the 'jeets

[Anonymous No.19007263]

>>19007231
sophistry

[Anonymous No.19007269]

>>19007263
There is nothing sophistic about the fact that language is subsumed by greater reality/

[Anonymous No.19007278]

>>19007230
k
>>19007269
>>19007263
>>19007231
>>19007190
>>19007158
cut it out.this isn't a debate thread.

[Anonymous No.19007281]

>>19007278
sneed

[Anonymous No.19007287]

>>19007281
breed

[Anonymous No.19007323]

>>19007287
touch grass

[Anonymous No.19007391]

>>19007323
have sex

[Anonymous No.19007416]

>>19006301
logical subsumes none

[Anonymous No.19007422]

>>19007391
don't invite other shit posts anon.

[Anonymous No.19007423]

>>19007422
dilate

[Anonymous No.19007484]

>>19007391
Dilate

[Anonymous No.19008171]

>>19007190
Being must be the utmost precedent principle of all things,logic included

[Anonymous No.19008371]

>>19007484
ywnbaw

[Anonymous No.19008462]

>>19006301
Maybe take a college class.
Starting out with the Greeks: five Socratic dialogues surrounding his trial and death. Euthyphro, the Apology, Crito, Meno, and Phaedo. Some say you need to read the Iliad, need to know about Theseus, need to know the presocratics. But not really, and a lot presocratic material is lost. If you read further Platonic dialogues, Socrates will become more of a literary device or character for Plato, though for various reasons the five mentioned are associated with the authentic Socrates, by some scholars. This will give you a basic introduction to the beginnings of western philosophy.

[Anonymous No.19008472]

>>19006301
This one is pretty great

It's just a number of essays and excerpts from major developments in philosophy of science. You could read through this in order, and learn a lot. The Cartwright paper was my favorite.

[Anonymous No.19008511]

>>19007278
God you are such a fucking faggot
Don’t bother reading philosophy, it’s clear that you won’t get very far.