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bydlo, you have unlimited access to endless information, fucking Library of Babel right in your pocket, literally a monolith from a Space Odyssey that connects you to the noosphere, you can watch Metropolis or some avantgarde vietnamese movie anytime, learn any language, master any skill or even esoteric practice and all you do is complain about society on the Internet, yikes

What a wonderful era we are living in. Only 1000 ARISTOCRATS listened and really understood Beethoven's music, it was a privilege for the rich, while the peasants ate poop, now all the classics are available, so why do anon always complain? Are the descendants of the plebeians genetically incapable of perceiving the Logos?

>> No.19019535

>>19019530
I agree with this. I am very grateful to be born now. The only flaw is climate change, otherwise things would be perfect.

>> No.19019579

>>19019530
>you can watch Metropolis or some avantgarde vietnamese movie anytime, learn any language, master any skill or even esoteric practice
And yet none of this shit is guaranteed to land you a decent job. Fucking 19 century industrial workers had better chances to earn money than most of us.

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>>19019535

I watch Barry Lyndon every Christmas. Thackeray had this insignificant line in his book, and Kubrick brought it into an epilogue and made it an ominous prophecy. An epitaph. In a semantic link with the Monolith, it works flawlessly. Gnostic revolution after which we live in the kingdom of broken mirrors.

>>19019579

"Behold the fowls of the air: for they sow not, neither. do they reap, nor gather into barns; yet your heavenly. Father feedeth them."
Matthew 6:26

>> No.19019857

>>19019530
Exposure to porn happens at 10 years old. If you havent fug'd by 12 your are a looser. Girls have ruined their ability to pairbond before they are 14 years old. Sure this is lower class shit but still..

>> No.19019885

>>19019530
There's a reason God demolished the Tower of Babel.

>> No.19020028

The standards have changed, OP

>> No.19020052

Imagine a universal library of infinite knowledge, you're free to enter and learn whatever you want but for every second you spend in there your IQ drops. Eventually you'll become too stupid to learn anything. Also there's not just books in the library but naked women all over blocking you from the shelves, and you're now too dumb to even realize they're holograms.

>> No.19020091

>>19019530
>>19019535
These anon get it. Our era is unironically better then all others, the only difference is how fast we can spread complaints through the internet. We are biased thinking that past eras were better because it is mostly rich, well educated people who could write and document stuff. 99% of the population lived rotting in their own shit and couldn't even write about it. Be thankful you can spread your intellectual diarrhea on 4chin talking about "degeneracy", star wars and other fictional things from a place where you can most likely afford food, because that's a privilege before ww2.

>> No.19020102

>>19019530
The internet only increased the gap you speak of. Despite everyone having theoretical access to knowledge drive to know is something most people don't have. At the same time, there's infinitely more potent distractions now than ever before; the 21 century plebeian is more likely to watch the moronic tiktok video, his favorite youtuber playing minecraft, porn, food challenges or to shitpost on discord than to use the internet to improve himself. In the same way inane content is more likely to be made and spread on the front page as most people are inane and that has more immediate appeal to the plebeian and therefore is financially encouraged.

You have to go out of your way, away from the outdoors, to find the good stuff you speak of, but why would the plebeian do that? The outdoors are more than enough to excite his appetite.

In the end it's all about natural predilection. The aristocracy is genetic, not economic. People with talent and drive will make away from the outdoors and use the internet in all its glory. Normal people will be even more stuck in retardation than they were before.

>> No.19020189

>>19019530
>Only 1000 ARISTOCRATS listened and really understood Beethoven's music
Beethoven did fine with 1000 aristocrats but now if you want to make half a penny from your music you need 50 times as much
The problem is really that nothing you can do with dignity and integrity gets you anywhere in life anymore. Marketing matters more than your work. Hollywood spends like half of their movies' budget on marketing and since there is no organic, real-life scene for anything anymore you have to act the same. And it's as true for art as it is for dating or anything else. Everything you do is in function of selling yourself as a product rather than personal growth because society itself deems the latter useless. It's easy to say "be a Chad and do it for yourself!" but the whole idea of being a Chad and self-improving is just as much of a construct. What I mean is that people do not exist in a bubble, if certain things flowered in the past it was because society at large valued those things. Even if humanity was always corrupt and degenerate there used to be an idea of "good", today there is no such thing. People exclusively believe in the furthering of one's image, even the morality is largely for show.

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bydlo, you have unlimited access to endless speculum literature, you can read Hexenhammer or some avantgarde italian bestiarium anytime, learn any language, master any skill or even esoteric practice and all you do is complain about society on the marketplace, yikes

what a wonderful era we are living in. Only 1000 MONKS read and really understood Aristotle's treatises, it was a privilege for the rich, while the peasants ate poop, now all the classics are available, so why do anon always complain? Are the descendants of the plebeians genetically incapable of perceiving the Logos?

>> No.19020362

>>19019530
infinite books to read but zero opportunity for adventure, all purpose deliberately taken away from you

>> No.19020378

>>19019530
>How dare you be unhappy with so much to CONSOOM?! Your magnanimous lords granted you a magic black rectangle that let's you CONSOOM any time, anywhere, 24/7 CONSOOMING! Think about how lucky you are, ungrateful ape! And all these humble men ask in return is that you sit in your wagiecagie 50 hours a week and PERFORM. PERFORM. CONSOOM. PERFORM. CONSOOM.

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bydlo, you have unlimited access to endless psychedelic compounds, you can experience 5-MeO-DMT or some avantgarde AL-LAD anytime, learn any form, master any reducing valve or even esoteric practice and all you do is complain about society on the material realm, yikes

What a wonderful era we are living in. Only 1000 SHAMANS experienced and really understood Holotropic Breathwork, it was a privilege for the rich, while the peasants ate poop, now all the chemicals are available, so why do anon always complain? Are the descendants of the plebeians genetically incapable of perceiving the Logos?

>> No.19020406

>>19019530
>Are the descendants of the plebeians genetically incapable of perceiving the Logos?
Heraclitus said that the Logos is common to all, but the multitude lives as if each had his own intelligence.

>> No.19020427

>>19019530
>you can watch Metropolis or some avantgarde vietnamese movie anytime, learn any language, master any skill or even esoteric practice
Wrong!
The human brain loses almost all of it's plasticity when you become an adult, if you didn't study pay attention to maths class in school you will NEVER become substantially better at mental arithmetic, likewise if you start studying a language right now you will never pass for a native speaker unless it's a language that's closely related to one you already speak, you will never ever become a chess grand master or an Olympic sportsperson because they all started practicing young when their bodies were still molding.

>> No.19020488

>>19019530
OP, this exactly is the problem. It became to easy. Life's purpose is hustling, struggling, fighting, losing, wining. That's the essence of being alive. Today we're fed, we receive basic needs, live in a well regulated and safe environment and have most unpleasant things taken care of. We're demoralized tigers strolling up and down the bars of our prisons with red glassy eyes, distracted, uncalm, with no focus. Because there's no need for a focus.

>> No.19020501

>>19019535
Out of all the things that could threaten the world you choose climate change? America and Europe will be fine (America will actually probably have greater agricultural output with higher temperatures), it's the poor shitholes in that will suffer.

>> No.19020522
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>>19020427
That's why telling the emotionally stunted "to just go outside and talk to people" is not only empty advice in of itself, but also lacks any real world application.

>> No.19020564

>>19019530
OP, life doesn't significantly feel better just because you know things.

>> No.19020620

>>19020427
>>19020522
Both of you are embarrassingly uninformed, using pop science from 30 years ago to justify your own complacency.

>> No.19020633

>>19020620
How is Genie, pop science you actual retard?
The experimental evidence is literally infront of you.

>> No.19020641

>>19019530
>What a wonderful era we are living in. Only 1000 ARISTOCRATS listened and really understood Beethoven's music, it was a privilege for the rich,
Reddit be gone.

>> No.19020651

>>19020427
>The human brain loses almost all of it's plasticity when you become an adult
lol, the world would be a sorrow place of that were true

>> No.19020674

>>19020651
And it is. You should be glad you had good parents who spent time interacting/ socializing with you favorably at young age instead of leaving a pile of books on your bed and fucking off.

>> No.19020677

The modern world is an unmitigated disaster, an utter tragedy. I don’t care what you have to say if you don’t share that view.

>> No.19020683

>>19020674
>You should be glad you had good parents who spent time interacting/ socializing with you favorably at young age
lol, so what about all those professors or engineers or tradespeople?
I mean, they learned most of what they know as adults.

>> No.19020695

>>19020091
>99% of the population lived rotting in their own shit and couldn't even write about it.
cope. it's not even materially better in a lot ways.

>> No.19020703

>>19019530
Extremely based

>> No.19020708

>>19020683
That's surface knowledge. Not related one bit to mastery of your own self.

>> No.19020715

>>19020683
>I mean, they learned most of what they know as adults.
when they were 16-20 more like

>> No.19020716

>>19020091
>99% of the population lived rotting in their own shit and couldn't even write about it.

Explain what you mean by this. I cant take this seriously.

>> No.19020727

>>19020716
He Thinks that peasants worked for 30 hours a day and the king fucked the wife on the day of the marriage.

>> No.19020735

>>19020501
>>19020620
>>19020641
>>19020651
>>19020683
>>19020703
You're fucking retards if you think this is about learning stuff or living in peace. The exact counterpart is valid. It became to easy, it's about a lack of physicality, action and consequences. Life's purpose is hustling, struggling, fighting, losing, wining. That's the essence of being alive. Today we're fed, we receive basic needs, live in a well regulated and safe environment and have most unpleasant things taken care of. We're demoralized tigers strolling up and down the bars of our prisons with red glassy eyes, distracted, uncalm, with no focus. Because there's no need for a focus

>> No.19020738

>>19020735
Atleast delete the previous one if you're going to repost for attention you fuckin spaz.
But I do agree.

>> No.19020744
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Yeah but where’s the SOVL?

>> No.19020746

>>19020735
exactly this

>> No.19020763

>>19020738
i appologize myself deeply. However i couldn't believe this is irrelevant to most anons. It's not about conquering alleged symbols of intellectual superiority, like reading classic literature and listening to music reserved to rich people in former times. That is a simple form of striving for things considered artsy or avantgarde. Ffs life needs to be more than conquering some moral highground.

>> No.19020770

>>19020735
>>19020738
>>19020746
You could always just move to the third-world you know. But you won’t, because you wouldn’t last a day there.
The problem isn’t material so much as spiritual in nature.
Give religion a chance.

>> No.19020777

>>19020770
wow cool solution

>> No.19020789

>>19020770
Why would I shoot myself in the leg on purpose?

>> No.19020795

>>19020735
>lack of physicality, action and consequences. Life's purpose is hustling, struggling, fighting, losing, wining.
Shut the fuck up slave. I would rather ponder over philosophical questions than do whatever bullshite your capitalist lord has taught you, which you deem as necessary the purpose if life.

>> No.19020803

>>19020770
i don't argue religion. Spirituality has potential to help. But you should see yourself that winning isn't so much fun when you can't really lose (and this is a thing of general life situations). Plus unironically moving to a third world country could move yourself more towards the principle of physicality. And i don't even doubt third worlders feel more purpose in life than the average western wageslave.

>> No.19020807

>>19019530
Jacek, pszlease.
>you have unlimited access to endless information
What made you ever consider that to be a good thing? Good things are always rare, best things are singular, you don't WANT to sift through oceans of trash to get to even see them, much less read.
> you can watch Metropolis or some avantgarde vietnamese movie anytime
Consoom prodooct
> learn any language
Why do you need that, if you are not an aristocrat/trustfundee with endless money or actually prepping to move away.
>master any skill
No amount of theory will beat an hour of practice. Also like 90% of everything REQUIRE hands-on practice under supervision. You will never become a doctor by just reading.
>or even esoteric practice
>esoteric
>on the internet
Get endless money, for free, no strings attached! With just one weird trick...(click here)
>Are the descendants of the plebeians genetically incapable of perceiving the Logos?
You will burn in hell for pharisaic posturing, you know that, right?

>> No.19020822

>>19020795
you're a fucking moron if you understood my words in that way. The one pondering about philosophical questions in the evenings after 10hrs of a tiring wageslave office job is you.

>> No.19020829

>>19020822
No my dear wagie I am not. I am a postmodern aristocrat aka a NEET.

>> No.19020833

>>19020807
exactly this. OP is a simple retarded consoomer, except that he applies some artsy moral highground definition of consume.

>> No.19020834

>>19020091
>Our era is unironically better then all others
US and Euro wages in real buying potential stagnated in the 60's and started to descend in the 70's. You are literally poorer than 50 years ago. People supposedly walked on the Moon 50 years ago, yet can't repeat that with all the supposed new tech and riches. No. The lose to goatfuckers with AKs while burning away 2 trillion US dollars (6 lunar landings with 60's tech cost ~200 billion modern USD).
Our era is unironic decay, stagnation and rot.

>> No.19020841

>>19020829
then you're not even worth to speak to. you're the literal abomination of this society. the most useless part of it, the first one to get rid off

>> No.19020849

>>19020833
Watch moving pictures! Endless moving pictures! Disregard urban decay, environmental pollution, societal anomie and your own poverty, just watch moving pictures on the cave's wall. So many Marvelous pictures to watch in trance!

>> No.19020865

>>19020841
Kek, feel free to move a village a scratch your ass for 14 hours without modern tools to get everyday survival ration from your landlord. In your few tea breakers feel free to discuss Kant your neighbors bull. I don't need this shit, I am comfy.

>> No.19020867
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>>19020841
>NOOOO You must produce capital!!
>How will society function if you don't slave for it?!
>You want to be compensated for your efforts? Bootstraps loser!

>> No.19020876

>>19020865
no friend you're not comfy. I can sense that.

>> No.19020895
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>>19020876
He doesn't break a sweat for a single moment that he does not demand for himself.
He can sleep for as long as he wants, never in a hurry.
Free to do anything his heart desires.
The NEET is a King.

>> No.19020908

>>19020715
t. 21 year old defatist

>> No.19020910

>>19020895
Not the anon you're speaking with but I was a NEET for almost a decade. Reading shit like this is laughable with how wrong it is.

>> No.19020914

>>19020427
So what you can become better at chess lift more tommorrow than you can today speak a foreign language better.

Goddamn I bet your a fun person to be around.

>> No.19020921
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>>19020910
Don't fret bro. It's your parents fault they didn't provide you with proper upbringing at an early age to be able to navigate the real world once you were out on your own. You didn't miss out, it was taken from you by the people who selfishly ripped you out of the void.
You will get another roll of the dice or better yet if you're lucky you'll get to spend the rest of eternity one with the void.

>> No.19020930

>>19020921
I have no issues regarding "missing out" so I'm not sure why you've projected this onto me.

>> No.19020932

>>19020895
lmfao, a neet is the most dependant person in a society. Some would even say he's not part of it. It's basically the exact counterpart to being free. I'd go crazy if i was forced to be a neet. How low do your standards have to be if you're already satisfied with life when you can lie in bed while you assume others have horrible lifes earning money

>> No.19020933

>>19020876
I am comfy in comparison to that lifestyle. I have lived with peasants when I was a teenager. Philosophy doesn't concern them and they're happier(than hustling and grinding retards in cities who are high on the capitalist lie that they can become rich too with little more grinding and ready to sell whatever left of their ancestral lands and communities for becoming rich) because they don't have much expectations due to lack of intelligence granted by education and due to lack of financial security. They still suffer a lot but things like family and religion make them go through a shitty modern slavery which is a lifelong working condition. And poverty doesn't create noble men, poverty is locally known as a curse. I don't want that lifestyle.

I think I should visit them again this year.

>> No.19020936

>>19020841
>you're the literal abomination of this society.
You mean the society that burned 2 trillion dollars on a war with literal goatfuckers it has lost just recently? The one using tax dollars do murder babies, fund drug syndicates in Mexico, force LGBTQCIA degeneracy on us and foreigners, but can't be arsed to make a public healthcare system so one does not jump from the ambulance in terror of crippling debt?
Yeah nah, NEET are based.
NEETs are fighters for worker rights.
What do you do when the employer refuses to pay you a fair wage?
You don't work and sit it out, until he comes begging. Simple as.

>> No.19020948

>>19020936
You have to be 18 to post here

>> No.19020953

>>19020427
Your brain retains plasticity until death, it just changes at a slower pace - in turn, it gets betters that things it molded into doing with passing years. Better yet you MUST have more meaningful and varied experiences with age, else you get Alzheimers.
You just profess cripto-Calvinism where you are either a born winner or a born loser destined to hell for no reason by arbitrary chance. Just stop, don't be a neurotic mess.

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>>19019857
>If you havent fug'd by 12 your are a looser
loser* you fucking idiot. You're on a literature board
You somehow only connect quality of life with females, being a degenerate coombrain.
The whole point of this thread is to realise the intellectual opportunity at your fingertips

>> No.19020959

>>19020936
you don't have to think todays government actions or capitalist society as a whole is cool (i don't think that either). But neets are maggots, also in the most direct forms of living together like family friends or relatives. neets are without purpose. If you have a purpose, you're not a neet.

>> No.19020960

>>19020948
Correct, so suck my dick since your old enough to fuck, then fuck off since you are underage for 4chan. You'll get some practical experience with your society by age 30.

>> No.19020963

>>19020930
The american doesn't even know he himself is saying.
You said that you regret being a NEET and that it was a waste of time.

>> No.19020977

>>19020959
>neets are without purpose
NEETS are not in education, employment, or training. There is nothing about goals, and you know that, you literal glownigger. My goal is not to pay taxes on your paycheck, you abominable swine.

>> No.19020987

>>19019530
The West is dying and European people will be extinct within 200 years. There's no point in building anything as it'll just be inherited by Africans.

>> No.19020989

>>19020960
Nigga I wont suck ubderage dick so piss off and go back

>> No.19020994

>>19020977
you even forgot how to formulate things you want to say in a logical way. Anon, we're witnessing your complete retardation. Seek help

>> No.19021008

>>19020963
Irrelevant. I believe all things are predestined, so nothing could have been otherwise. Nothing can be "missed out" on.

>> No.19021020

>>19021008
Cope

>> No.19021029

the detriment to having any book at your finger tips is that you will only read it once

back in the middle ages philosophers read the same books over and over which is how they knew plato and artistotle by heart

>> No.19021039

>>19021020
You were predestined to say that so I will not fault you for it.

>> No.19021040

>>19021029
I know the grooves on my dick by heart.

>> No.19021073

>>19019530
So let me just walk through how insane this is. Where does happiness come from? Comfort living situation? Meat everyday? Wrong. It comes from faith and hopefully a family and a strong community. I don't think people who say we have great lives understand how sad our lives have become. My daily schedule:
>830 wake up and watch porn
>900 try to sleep another 30
>930 work from home and code monkey for 7.5 hours
>500 try to sign off or work another hour
>600 read
>700 wife returns and we talk
>dinner and maybe read until 11
My wife gets back from work at 7. From 830am - 7pm I have spoken to no one. I, really we, live in glorified solitary confinement. Even if I lived at home with my parents, I'd ONLY LIVE WITH MY PARENTS. The issue is that media, distance due to urban planning, and secularism has transformed our society from a family and meaning making device into a machine for getting you seamless and Amazon deliveries. I am financially well off for my age (part of the overpaid professional class) but this lie that our lives are better because of food is insane. This world is run by fools. New York City is a shithole and everyone in it has believed the lies. America is dead. God.

>> No.19021076

>>19020989
>>19020994
Cope sneed dilate glownigger

>> No.19021084
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if you are miserable as a neet you are probably a moron who has no hobbies
if i am miserable it's not because i am a neet. it's because i am living with my mother(who buys the food, and violates my privacy on a daily basis). i want to buy my own food

i bought crypto and hope to become rich some day so i can live on my own in some run down shack somewhere. i don't care about living luxuriously. luxury is for idiots

i plan to buy cock roach infested 20k home in some rural area. i just need a place to stay for life until i die
i'll tear the nasty carpet out(not replacing it) and buy roach traps

>> No.19021088

>>19021073
>830 wake up and watch porn
>700 wife returns and we talk
What. Why?

>> No.19021094

>>19021084
>if you are miserable as a neet you are probably a moron who has no hobbies
Work gives meaning to some. Also, not being able to provide for people is demeaning.

>> No.19021098

>>19021088
She has a job

>> No.19021103

>>19019530
>lol bro just try harder

>> No.19021104

>>19021098
Every woman in recent history has a job, they also have regular sex. You can fuck in the evening, or you can get up together with her and fuck then. Why even touch porn at that point.
Please don't tell me you are married yet have sex only on weekends.

>> No.19021110

>>19021104
Yeah my sex patterns are the problem.

>> No.19021115

>>19021094

>work gives meaning to some

i think those people are dumb

>> No.19021118

>>19020829
>I am a postmodern aristocrat aka a NEET.
Such a based post

>> No.19021127

>>19021104
Holy shit you're retarded

>> No.19021136

>>19021127
I am married, yet I have no idea why use porn if you have a wife you can use daily and she likes it. Explain this mystery to me. Are you terminally perverted or what? I watched porn before marriage alright, why after though.

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>>19019530
>we stripped the world of all mystery, adventure and meaning, why aren't you happy!?

Fuck off.

>> No.19021155

>>19021144
don't take your arrested development out on us

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The reasons that can help to make the modern world appreciable are exactly the consequences of those that make it detestable. What the anti-moderns regret is above all the disappearance of a traditional form of relationship to the world. Traditionally, a man is placed in the world, he perceives analogies between beings, he works and sweats for his community and his beloved family, he enjoys himself at festivals and grieves at funerals in an authentic way, his spiritual master offers him keys to read the world and teaches him how to reach eternal bliss, he knows how to find deep meaning and quality in what he sees in the world.
On the contrary, modernity reverses and subverts this mode of being and in the contemporary world there are only mechanical relationships between things, man is in himself for himself so that he never has fun and never grieves except virtually, he no longer has spirituality and therefore no morals, hope and blue sky, in short he has lost the sense of meaning and he only perceives quantitative and arbitrary relationships between beings.

>> No.19021178

>>19021155
Development into what. A nihilistic hedonistic consooming permanently depressed monkey that has to chug on pills to not off itself?

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>>19021164
This rationalist mechanization of the understanding of the world in modernity has generated, as a reaction to the spiritual mode of life, a particular interest in the physical and mathematical sciences deprived of their spiritual and symbolic content, and it is this practical secularization of the sciences that has allowed the insane acceleration of the establishment of contemporary technology which effectively allows unequalled comfort in all ages and a truly marvelous access to information. However, the question that we should ask ourselves is: should we prefer comfort or spirituality? For my part I want to assure that it is better for man to consider himself as an element of the organic and transcendent system of the cosmos than as a particle on a couch. It is also necessary to consider that the whole of modern technology is not essentially anti-traditional, and it seems to me that it is possible, provided that we manage to demodernize the paradigms of the people, to reorder it to the spiritual way of being in the world. This is why, in spite of a certain aversion to the present world, it is advisable not to fall into an absolute primitivism but to apply oneself to composing with the newness in order to re-establish the good way of being in souls and hearts.

>> No.19021182

>>19021164
simpleton

>> No.19021192

>>19021178
is that the only option? fucking faggot lmao

>> No.19021195

>>19019579
>wanting a job
>not scamming and grifting your way through life while doing as little work as possible
Lol, sucker

>> No.19021208

>>19021182
We are all more or less simpletons

>> No.19021221

>>19021179
Mashallah

>> No.19021222
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>>19021182
Yes

>> No.19021241

/lit/ - babies first existential crisis

>> No.19021259

>>19021241
What is grown up man's final crisis? Blowing your brains out? Yes I agree.

>> No.19021268

>>19021182
It is unironically a compliment

>> No.19021283

>>19021259
>grown mans final crisis
"I am a respected member of society, I rose through the ranks of my career, raised a family, left behind a legacy.
Was it all worth it?"

>> No.19021294

>>19021241
do you know what an existential crisis is? disliking modernity is irrelevant

>> No.19021333

>>19021192
>is that the only option?
You haven't listed anything else, so it is. Enjoy your overdevelopment into bugmanity.

>> No.19021347

Wouldn't our "problem of modernity" be solved on its own if we amassed a bit of money and moved to some village in the countryside?

>> No.19021354

>>19019530
>Beethoven

You mean that guy who most people know from the default sample that came on Windows Xp? That sample? The availiability of information has not made people more educated, it's just all noise to us.

>> No.19021385

>>19021283
Fool
He should have thought about it before raising a family.

>> No.19021406

>>19021347
while certainly an improvement that's just a small bubble of escape that's still entirely subjected to the systems around it. temporary at best and still leaves many problems unaddressed. saying that though, i still think it's a good idea to pursue

>> No.19021428

>>19021406
It's certainly an idea I'm entertaining. What are the unaddressed problems that you have in mind?

>> No.19021437

>>19021347
>and moved to some village in the countryside?
The Chinese factories and their aerial pollution aren't going anywhere, neither does all the city waste that makes the frogs gay and you a fat impotent. This is like hiding inna village from the nuclear war tier scenario - you will inhale nuclear fallout and deal with feral city dwellers anyway.

>> No.19021481

>>19021437
True, but you and I do not have the power to change that. We could however get as far away from the filth as possible.

>> No.19021489
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>unmatched material conditions
>doesn't matter because you're lonely and afraid
I believe our ancient forebearers warned us about the vapidity that is the life of absolute material indulgence. We can draw numerous parallels between the prototypical NEET and the story of King Midas. Yes I have unlimited access to all art, music, entertainment, and literature. I can eat almost anything I want at any time. I have a warm place to live, complete with plumbing and electricity. I can drink beer whenever I want, smoke weed whenever I want, stimulate my monkey brain with hardcore pornography whenever I want. I can even get pussy (with some added effort) almost free of charge. I simply need to press a few buttons on my bingbong phone machine and arrange to meet with a horny 19 year old girl incredibly easily. My ancestors would be green with envy if they could see the kind of conditions I (and billions of others) are able to live under. All this said, many are still unhappy. Why? Because they have nobody to share this with. They have no friends, no romantic connections, no deep-set family or community ties. We are atomized. This is the experience of millions of young men like me. I would prefer to live in 18th century material conditions if it meant I could have a reasonably stable family, social, and work life. Instead I sit alone in my mansion of gold.

>> No.19021492

>>19021283
>be autist
>completely blocked off from most of that list by normgroid persecution
>apparently being denied the basic cornerstones of life makes it impossible for me to experience existentialism

>> No.19021528

I've never lived in another lifetime, so I can't say if I prefer now or not.

>> No.19021541

>>19019530
Humans weren’t meant to have access to endless information.

Like Icarus, we have flown too close to the sun.

>> No.19021580

>>19020189
agreed anon, image triumphs everything in today's age, and this is why why people can excuse the corrupt morals of the majority of the popular figures out there as long as they still portray a favorable persona

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>>19021481
But You, Him and I together have the power to change that.
And it's extremely simple.

>> No.19021616

>>19019530
This isn't true
Your access to information and more importantly your ability to act on it is far more limited than you think

>> No.19021622

>>19021599
Does your solution entail masturbating under a table?

>> No.19021627

>>19020052
A true Klingsor's Garden

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>>19021622
That's the Primitivist way.

>> No.19021712

>>19021489
>I would prefer to live in 18th century material conditions if it meant I could have a reasonably stable family, social, and work life. Instead I sit alone in my mansion of gold.
The king Midas analogy is absolutely perfect anon, good work

>> No.19021718

>>19021489
Making friends is not hard you retarded bitch

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>>19021718
Yes it is!

>> No.19021729

>>19019530
Wrong. The best era was roughly 1990 to 2008, a little golden age peak, after that it's been an at first steady but now increasingly accelerating decline. For the west or what is commonly thought of as "first world" anyways, don't want to come off too mindlessly eurocentric here

>> No.19021785

>>19020501
Well, climate change will cause mass chaos and will lead to mass refugee movements, famines, sea level rise, etc. It's the only thing which could mess us up.

>> No.19021793

>Everything's great now, it's your fault if we oppress you

>> No.19021803

>>19021073
>It comes from faith and hopefully a family and a strong community.
this.
OP is a classic midwit

>> No.19021833

>>19021182
compliment for smart ones

>> No.19022473

>>19021144
Become a scientist,
Be the first to find out how this newlyfound species that lives under the antartic ice cap behaves.

Make medicinal production through microorganisms(like how it happens with insulin nowadays) more effective and help the lives of millions.


Prove a mathematical theorem which people have been trying to crack for centuries.

Contribute to developing a substance which is light and resistant that will help people in their daily lives and humanity to make it to Mars.

Find geological evindece that points to a revolutionary pattern in magma currents in the earth's mantle.

Develop a model that helps explain currency exchange variation more acurrately

Adevnture doesn't have to be finding about the weird cults the amerindians have, sneaking into Mecca or discovering the source of the nile. It's true enough that you cannot be sir Richard Francis Burton anymore. However, there might be even more important and exciting stuff to find out about.

Now get off your ass and do something. You might be 35 years old with an estabilished career, but you can find up to postgraduate level resources on the internet about any topic you desire.

Work, save up, go to college again during the night if you have to. Maybe don't even do that, think about a problem in your field you can solve. Think about how your work can perhaps help other fields in their work. There is always some contribution to make.

You can do it anon, we can do it.

>> No.19022566

>>19022473
Nice reddit spacing you retard
I bet you didn't even study STEM.

>> No.19022581

>>19022473
Not everyone can be a scientist and most scientists and researchers are overworked teachers advertising graduate programs to their students.

>> No.19022586

>>19019530
Too much virtuality not enough reality. The Virtual overwhelms the Real and creates a psychic disconnect.

>> No.19022596

>>19022566
Ok fattaboy, i am literally a vulcanologist. The pointo of the spacing was making alist. The one with two sapces was a typo.

>> No.19022608

>>19022473
None of these, except mathematics, is of any importance. Nobody cares about bugmen studying maya.

>> No.19022652

>>19022473
Why would I do any of that gay shit for a community that doesn't give enough of a fuck about me to provide me with a wife?
Why would I expend my efforts for somebody elses children?
Cuck mentality right there.

>> No.19022669

>>19022652
Lol whatever you troglodyte. Maybe if you weren't such a bitter little shit a wife would have been provided to you.

>> No.19022679

>>19022608
>medicine and better building materials are less important than solving a logic puzzle
Dude what

>> No.19022681

>>19022669
t. is white, tall and has rich parents

>> No.19022720

>>19022669
>weren't such a bitter little
Not in my control.

>> No.19022728

>>19022679
>>medicine and better building materials are less important than solving a logic puzzle
Precisely. Your "building materials" have not improved anything really. In fact, those simple, comfy, aesthetically pleasing buildings of some centuries ago are preferable to this new, soulless architecture. As for medicine, I'm tempted to reject it out of spite for modernity, but I do acknowledge its importance; only that, the health of the body is subordinate to the health of the soul, which you bugmen ignore anyway.

>> No.19022733

>>19019530
Have you considered it is human nature to never be complacent?

>> No.19022735

>>19020807
>Jacek
Быдлo is a Russian word. Please don't mix us Western Slavs with those subhumans thank you very much

>> No.19022756

>>19021073
>It comes from faith and hopefully a family and a strong community
>>830 wake up and watch porn
nice bait retard

>> No.19023839

>>19022756
Where may I find your glass house?

>> No.19023865

>>19020189
So what you’re saying is the domain of struggle has been extended?

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>bydlo, you have unlimited access to endless information, fucking Library of Babel right in your pocket, literally a monolith from a Space Odyssey that connects you to the noosphere, you can watch Metropolis or some avantgarde vietnamese movie anytime, learn any language, master any skill or even esoteric practice and all you do is complain about society on the Internet, yikes

>What a wonderful era we are living in. Only 1000 ARISTOCRATS listened and really understood Beethoven's music, it was a privilege for the rich, while the peasants ate poop, now all the classics are available, so why do anon always complain? Are the descendants of the plebeians genetically incapable of perceiving the Logos?

>> No.19023938

>>19019530
I want to do real things that actually matter not live in books and entertainment

>> No.19024132

>>19019530
You should write a book about it, anon.
Its a good theme.
Personally, I think the dissatisfaction comes from the isolated reality we live and the illusion the digital gives to us. I don't know what to call it, unconscious or whatever, but you know you can't look at a screen for hours, your brain rejects it. You crave more, and them it comes the dissatisfaction.

>> No.19024666

>>19023865
I think the context has changed and what the world, in the sense of "society", thinks affects the individual no matter the individual's independence or rejection of it. You can definitely learn a language or sculpting or advanced mathematics, but what are you going to do with those skills? In the end they will all apply to the same thing: producing a product to sell. Just look at science, it used to be something extremely noble. People engaged with it mainly because of a curiosity and will toward knowledge. Now the drive is just cash. You get a degree and fit into a production pipeline for pharmaceuticals or industrial goods. And I'm sure that someone will read this and think "it was always like this", same when someone says that art today is uninspired trash. "it was always like this", people think, because they cannot conceive that anybody at any point in time had some kind of morality or was driven by motives other than profit. And it's hard to find any use but that for all these wonderful things we can do today because those driving factors were part of a collective consciousness that is now magnetized somewhere else. You can surely try to be a good Christian man or a scientist whose work is fueled by that genuine thirst for knowledge, but it won't be the same. It's very much the same reason why being alone doing nothing in your room is not the same as being alone doing nothing in a padded cell.

>> No.19024775

>>19019579
Why is that your metric for success?

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>>19020959
>But neets are maggots
Another mad wagie

>> No.19024954

>>19019530
imperialormetric?
>ib4logos

>> No.19024955

>>19020959
>If you have a purpose, you're not a neet.
My purpose is avoiding the soul-destroying wagie hell at all costs, including taking my own life. I don't want to spend most of my waking time doing something I detest surrounded by people I hate.

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>>19019530
>Library of Babel

>> No.19025096

>he still thinks autodidactism is possible
Wisdom requires mentorship and initiation and context in reality. Cease with your Reddit Individualism. You have much knowledge but it is not systematized—you have no wisdom. The internet is an illusion

>> No.19025108

>>19019530
I partially agree, but I think you're undervaluing being able to understand one's place in the world and feel good about where things are heading. While that whiggish impulse to see history as constant progress is wrong, it's a nice feeling to have. Watching things get worse around you and not being able to position yourself within a narrative makes it all seem hollow. I have lots of opportunity to learn things, and I do. I'm teaching myself Latin, but at a different time, that skill would actually be valued and respected.

>> No.19025124

>>19020501
realistically speaking, coastal areas of America will get absolutely fucked (they already are), which is good for the rest of us

>> No.19025137

>>19019579
But that is wrong. There are more workplaces, more occupation then ever before, you can chose which ever you want. You couldn't do that back in the day you where forced in to one. You are wrong you fucking retard

>> No.19025428

>>19020954
>intellectual opportunity
>/lit/

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>>19019535

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>>19021039

>> No.19026575

>>19020362
This. Nobody believes in anything anyway. All those books are outdated. All those art works are form of entertainment. Scientists tell us what’s true on tv and newspapers and that’s all I need to know. There is no mystery, no exoterism. And if there is then you belong to /x/ either go nuts or go to a doctor. All wisdom is void. It is all so fucking tiresome. You are drown in age of information and consumption. Nothing matters anymore.

>> No.19026646

>>19019530
Modern life is soulless and most people are corrupt. It doesn’t matter how much Beethoven we can listen to or how we have access to instant fast food. The world owns us and we own nothing

>> No.19027076

>>19021164
good post

>> No.19027099

>>19019530
Even fewer people can understand Beethoven's music in today's global world than the handful of Aristocrats you describe. Information alone has no inherent value, this is even more profoundly true when the internet is a great mixture of information with falsities and mediocrity.

>> No.19027118

>>19022735
>is a Russian word
East Slavic dropped all d's before l's. You are a Jacek, a bydlak, and highly probable - a Szvejk. Which leads us to the indecency of this thread - a Polish snownigger rediscovering Late Antiquity's inundation in trash texts made by commentators of the commentators and emulators of the emulators.

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>>19019530
>>19019535
>>19020091
You guys are all idiots. Everything is pros and cons. To say we live in the "best time in human history" is an inherently stupid.

You bring up the internet, which over the last 10 years has become increasingly censored, information is becoming hard to find. It used to be far better when google was young and free, when wiki was corrupted, when there wasn't so many paid agents of propaganda or censorship on 4chan.

It's a miracle to be alive and imo such a shame to waste it with your head stuck in the sand (or up your own ass).

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>>19019530 (OP)
>>19019535
>>19020091
You guys are all idiots. Everything is pros and cons. To say we live in the "best time in human history" is an inherently stupid.

You bring up the internet, which over the last 10 years has become increasingly censored, information is becoming hard to find. It used to be far better when google was young and free, when wiki was corrupted, when there wasn't so many paid agents of propaganda or censorship on 4chan.

It's a miracle to be alive and imo such a shame to waste it with your head stuck in the sand (or up your own ass).

>> No.19027183

>>19027172
>when there wasn't so many paid agents of propaganda on 4chan
Redpill me on this

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As these anons allude to:
>>19026646
>>19020735
The progression of totalitarian control by governments in the "Western" world is counterproductive to human growth, arts and health. The nanny state supports vast swarms of parasites that leech of good men and women, and corrupt the minds of the youth. The human experience is a sickly thing in our modern era.

>>19020795
>the "unanswerable" questions
You haven't figured out the answers yet retard? Being completely opposed to suffering is to be a weak deluded parasite.

>>19027183
Here's one of many, many examples. There are lots of interest groups that work to subvert 4chan's intelligentsia", some do it for free, others get paid.

>> No.19027228

comfort convenience and replacing our living with nothing with frivolous arts no matter how cerebral they might be is still a form of deviancy and corrupts the human spirit

>> No.19027279

>>19025137
>You couldn't do that back in the day you where forced in to one.
Because you didn't need to. There weren't even such things.
Being proud of having multiple cages to choose from instead of none is bizarre.

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>>19019530

>> No.19028191

>>19028132
That explains why I have to watch trap porn after watching bbc porn.
But why do I still jack off all the same every day?
Tesla refuted.

>> No.19028224

>>19022473
It's amazing that the ingrained habit of pressing enter twice can completely out someone as having brain rot, useful though.

>> No.19029328

>>19020834
decay is the only constant and i love it

>> No.19029394

>>19019530
>you can consume media
Yes, and?

People are starving for human connections and a sense of purpose, not for more movies and Wikipedia articles. Trying to fill that void with Netflix and videogames is actually the thing that causes pic related.

Not to mention we're seeing the rise of technocratic authoritarianism right now. Anyone with half a brain can see that things aren't going well right now.

>> No.19029423

>>19020954
this desu, but judging by the amount of simp faggots that post lewd images and webms of whores on tiktok performing mating dances, /lit/ is no less of a congregation of pathetic degenerates as boards like /mu/ or /mlp/ are

>> No.19029436

>>19025137
>You couldn't do that back in the day you where forced in to one
Yes, back in the day you were more or less forced into a position in society. People could either accept it or rebel.

Now there's infinite possibilities, but the average guy realizes they're not really all open to him, and he has not enough time to do everything he wants. So he has to "choose" a less bad option.

In the first case the individual can be resentful against his circumstances and the State for his position. In the second case the individual can only be resentful against himself or society, which is worse psychologically.

>> No.19029560

>>19019530
Why do you think reading the words of the dead is a substitute for living in a cohesive society? The only metric that matters, self-reported general happiness, has been plummeting like a rock for decades. Books and movies on the shelves cannot replace virtuous human connection.

>> No.19029876

>>19029560
This.
The more disconnected you are from society the happier you will be.
This is NOT supposed to be normal, hermitism was supposed to be for nutjobs, not for normal people escaping from all the faggotry society tries to push down their throats.

>> No.19029915

>>19019593
I object to this image. Some lineages fathered by the men of those times are less equal than the others in virtue of how wealthy they are and how well they do.

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>>19021283
>respected
spook
>society
spookiety
>ranks
more like spooks amiright?
>career
spookeer
>family
spookily
>legacy
spookacy

>> No.19031280

>>19027207
>There are lots of interest groups that work to subvert 4chan's intelligentsia
Nice image but all I see is three soon-to-be redpilled white dudes.

>> No.19032524

>>19021195
this. except I want to build a house and I do not like work.

>> No.19032540

>>19029915
hurr durr

>> No.19032834

>>19026575
This is why I'm desperately trying to get closer to Christianity. But I'm afraid that the Borg conditioning is not reversible.

>> No.19032860

>>19020910
I don't understand why I am supposed to work a job I hate because "I owe it to society". Society treated me like shit all my life. If I have to work I want to work on something that doesn't crush my will to life. I don't understand why I have to accept that I have to be a burger flipper while I constantly see thieves, hacks, whores, hustlers, sociopaths easily get rewarded for their underhanded shit. If I cannot play another game where these people are rightfully kept out and given what they deserve then I refuse to play at all. This will probably mean killing myself but I don't care. I refuse to sacrifice my time working low level wagie shit I hate because I'm not a crook. Literally everyone I know who got in a position anywhere is a fucking fraud and got there through nepotism, cheating, scamming and sucking literal cock. I may have too much pride but I fucking refuse to participate in a society where these people are not only more successful but more well-respected because they "achieved" more. Fuck this.

>> No.19032868

>>19032860
Hilarious imitation of a base materialist. I love it

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>You live in the best time in human history!
NO.

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>>19020936
It might surprise you, but the majority of NEETs are not fighters, nor activists, nor do they seem to care about politics on the whole.

>> No.19032948

>>19032868
It's not about money but about the fact that there's no other metric in this society but money. It's not like I can be respected or "fit in" for anything else. I just have to earn. Poor = bad, rich = good. Virtue or whatever the fuck doesn't matter unless it's used to earn money, so even virtue has become some kind of marketing construct. People who climb the ladder almost inexorably lack all human qualities except being "hard working" which doesn't even translate into actual passion for one's work anymore but simply the ability to perform everything that needs to be done for the sake of ruthless social climbing. In this absolute fucking shit context I am required to participate to "contribute", all while being deemed largely inferior to all the hustling whores mentioned above. There is nothing I like and none of the rewards I seek here. I'm not a materialist I just don't fucking understand why I am supposed to give my life to this society.

>> No.19032998

>>19020959
>But neets are maggots
neets who have slaved away for years and now have a small fortune saved for personal pursuits are not maggots

>> No.19033036

>>19019530
The only thing you can do with this is start a youtube channel and become a regurgitator of information. You still need to jump the university hoops to do anything.

>> No.19033054

>>19019530
>you’re not allowed to complain or criticize because you can consoom!!!!
how are you any different from the fags that say “nooo don’t kill yourself what about the marvel movies you won’t get to see”

>> No.19033131

>>19019593
Hey, I also found that quote really poignant. Barry Lyndon is a great movie.

>> No.19033162

all the mystery has gone from life. they try and get me excited about scientific discoveries but things like the "higgs boson" might as well not be real. I can't understand it so why should I care?

What was it recently, the biggest sun ever has been found in space, as if this is supposed to be interesting?

>> No.19033168

>>19033162
yep

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>>19029423
>tfw the three boards i use the most (in order) are /mu/, /lit/, and /mlp/
should i just kill myself

>> No.19033187

>>19033162
I don't think it's about the lack of "mystery", it's just cynicism. If someone says "yeah SCIENCE we're going to EXPLORE SPACE" you'll probably think "lol no we're not, we're all gonna die here on an increasingly miserable planet we're too stupid to escape from and too irresponsible to keep hospitable"

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Science and technology provide the most important examples of surrogate activities. Some scientists claim that they are
motivated by “curiosity” or by a desire to “benefit humanity.” But it is easy to see that neither of these can be the principal
motive of most scientists. As for “curiosity,” that notion is simply absurd. Most scientists work on highly specialized problems
that are not the object of any normal curiosity. For example, is an astronomer, a mathematician or an entomologist curious
about the properties of isopropyltrimethylmethane? Of course not. Only a chemist is curious about such a thing, and he is
curious about it only because chemistry is his surrogate activity. Is the chemist curious about the appropriate classification of a
new species of beetle? No. That question is of interest only to the entomologist, and he is interested in it only because
entomology is his surrogate activity.

>> No.19033210

>>19033187
what mysery should we be looking forward to answering?

and yes you're right I'm definitely a cynic, as I would answer the only mystery we're looking forward to is how disastrous this mess is going to end

>> No.19033216

>>19022473
>>19033202

>> No.19033226

>>19033202
>motivated by “curiosity” or by a desire to “benefit humanity.”
The researchers I have met were mostly motivated by getting paid and some wanted to become famous from their work.

>> No.19033230

>>19033226
Of course, it’s not that simple. Other motives do play a role for many scientists. Money and status for example. Some
scientists may be persons of the type who have an insatiable drive for status (see paragraph 79) and this may provide much of
the motivation for their work.

>> No.19033234

>>19033210
>what mystery should we be looking forward to answering?
I think that if society develops a moral backbone and values human virtue, it's much easier to believe in things and get things done for the betterment of the collective. The problem is that virtue has a characteristic of being largely selfless, restrained and other forms of self-limitation or self-damage, but everyone today is trained to think of selfless or self-limiting things as stupid because in practice, without the idea that virtue is a quality, there's no use for virtue. In a world that doesn't believe in virtue, the virtuous person simply fails. You cannot win against the corrupt or the lying when the world doesn't care about integrity or truth.
So if you do something selfless you are not acting as a catalyst, you're just going to be thought of as a retard and exploited.
There would be a lot to do in this world and many problems to solve, the issue is that people simply don't give a fuck. Give anyone any problem and they'll answer either directly or in some roundabout way "but why should I care?" when there are no ethics there are no problems. There's no problem in delusion or stupidity either. Who cares if you're going to raise your children in a terrible world that you endorse? Just believe that they'll figure it out on their own. Who cares that our lifestyle is wasteful and damaging and exploitative and unsustainable? Just pretend that if I buy this specific product I will Save the Planet™ or that it's all a lie made up by the Jews or that technology will fix it like it fixed everything else. Nobody ever wants to think "is it right that I do this?" and since society largely doesn't give a shit, there's no issue against guilt tripping those who do try to care because they feel some sort of malaise into buying a specially branded product.

>> No.19033251

>>19033234
yeah it is frustrating to me as well that people are rewarded for acting unethically. unfortunately for many it's a matter of survival to act that way. That is why I don't think the system can be reformed in the way the environmentalist/green types believe it can be. They have band-aid solutions for something that requires total paradigm shift.

>> No.19033259

>>19033251
>unfortunately for many it's a matter of survival to act that way
not really, basically all career paths at any step now involve being a crook with zero moral obstacles in the way.

>> No.19033364

>>19020355

OP BTFO

>> No.19033371

>>19021073
>you stay home all day
>your wife goes to work
Men will literally never learn will they?

>> No.19033660

>>19021073
>830 wake up and watch porn
Jesus Christ

>> No.19033750

Because most people want to be happy

>> No.19033791

>>19020744
Not in gigachad spamming that's for sure.

>> No.19034052

>>19031280
what about the JIDF?

>> No.19034070

>>19019530
i unironically think most people are too dumb to use the internet properly. most can't handle it and just use it to waste time and surround themselves with other retards in echo chambers.

>> No.19034254

>>19027207
Isn't this illegal? As long as 4chan's content is not illegal, nobody is breaking the law no matter how /pol/ it gets. But these people are basically advocating spamming a website until the community gives up. Isn't this on the same terms as DDOSing and other malicious attacks?

>> No.19034514

>>19020189
Anon, "aristocrat" translates to "billionaire".

>> No.19034526

>>19020427
>sportsperson
First, kill yourself. Second, it's "athlete".

>> No.19034637

>>19034052
They are already nationalist and racist? Do you mean, why do Jews still screw around in foreign nations? One, it's different Jews. But making life hard for Jews outside Israel means more Jews support or return to Israel, known as aliyah.

>> No.19034696

>>19034254
Yeah, it's pretty much a DOS attack. In essence, anyway, but I assume the ones that were meant to read that were the ones making the laws, so. Technically, probably about as illegal as whipping up a frenzy about the flu and requiring "vaccine passports" to buy food.

>> No.19035870

Civilization peaked during agriculture, the Amish were right all along.
If you can get enough meaning and fulfillment out of a simple life you're superior to the modern man who never has enough.
I fucking hate industrial society and can't wait to get me some land.

>> No.19036028

What is bydlo?

>> No.19036111

>>19036028
Slav term for an uncultured and uneducated prole.

>> No.19036119

Many are too lazy or ignorant to take full advantage of the resources they have.

>> No.19036129

>>19036119
What do you want people to do? Do research oti 24/7?

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19037274

>>19033234
>>19033251
>>19033259
>I EXPECT to be reward for being virtuous
Living virtuously is it’s own reward.

>> No.19037409

>>19036111
Checked and thank you.

>> No.19037582

>>19027180
oh no the internet isnt as good as it was! id much rather die of the black plague

>> No.19038712

>>19037582
This but unironically

>> No.19038730

>>19019579
Read the Jungle, their lives were shit and work was often scarce

>> No.19038766

>>19022473
The ignorant, and overly confident proles don't deserve it.

>> No.19038777

>>19038730
>their lives were shit
Check
>work was often scarce
Check

Welcome to Generation X.

>> No.19039636

>>19037274
>Living virtuously is it’s own reward.
This was only possible because people were religious. We've killed off true belief a century ago.

>> No.19040165

>>19020189
pretty much, being a genius at something is worthless
people thinking that you're a genius at something is everything

>> No.19040183

>>19019530
And yet, the Logos bought you here, to start with /lit/ threads.

>> No.19041713

>>19021084
that scary face in the webm is awesome

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>>19019535
>climate change

>> No.19043691

>>19021073
You degenerate loser
>stop watching porn
>have babies
>your wife should be home while you're out
>start working out

There, fixed your life

>> No.19043936

>>19021073
>I am financially well off for my age (part of the overpaid professional class)

so it's your choice that you live like this.

>> No.19044282

>>19043556
You will never pass btw.

>> No.19044419

>>19019530
Might is right...

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