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19040931 No.19040931 [Reply] [Original]

>b-but consciousness is real
Illusion
>Y-you can't just say that. It's self-evident
Prove it
>muh P-Zombies
Yes and?

>> No.19041733
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>>19040931

>> No.19041969

>>19040931
do you know what self-evident means?

>> No.19041986

>>19040931
>self-evident
dude, trust me

>> No.19042003

>>19040931
OK, its all an illusion, what now?

>> No.19042013

>>19040931
Its absolutely certain that consciousness exists. Consciousness is the conditions by which we are able to access objects, nothing in the appearances can disprove the existence of the transcendental conditions of their appearing. Husserl wins again.

>> No.19042028

>>19040931
Nice bait thread OP. Here’s your (you).

>> No.19042036

>Consciousness
I think there isn't a more overloaded term than this. I don't care what dennett says because I don't even know what he's actually referring to and on close inspection you'll see he doesn't either. This is the state of the "hard problem" though the difficulty arises first because no one discussing it even knows what they are really discussing.

>> No.19042046

>>19042013
Shankara agrees with this reasoning too

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>>19040931
Dennett is an NPC

http://www.jaronlanier.com/zombie.html

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>>19040931
https://qualiacomputing.com/2020/08/06/that-time-daniel-dennett-took-200-micrograms-of-lsd/