Practically ALL fiction is escapism, even "dark" stories are better than reality

[Anonymous No.19044039]

To be fair, i don't blame authors for doing this, due to the following:

1 - The life of the vast majority of people is only becoming more and more commodified, predictable and limited with the consolidation of neoliberal globohomo, the scientific management of mankind and the culture of conformity;

2 - The average person (even atheists) is completely deluded about the nature of the World and wouldn't be able to enjoy truly realistic stories, chastising them for being, "cynical" or "boring";

3 - Not only are the truths of nihilism, determinism, and materialism finally beginning to reach the average person's ears, but there is also the fact that while we have yet to explore the Universe, it is unlikely that there will be intelligent life in a reachable distance, limiting the breadth of "exploration" to simply observing strange landscapes, not quite satisfactory.
Overall, stories focused on wonder, discovery and/or adventure are practically impossible to set in the Real World;

Even the vast majority of stories that are supposedly "dark" and "realistic" just because the characters suffer alot or the story is supposedly "set in the Real World", portray settings that are directly preferable to living in the Real World, since atleast in them life has some semblance of meaning, mystery/magic, freedom and/or novelty:
- Hints of transcendental good which to grant life meaning. IE: The christian nature of Dostoevsky's stories, any story made by the Greeks, etc.
- Hints of transcendental evil which to struggle against. IE: Judge Holden, Heart of Darkness, etc.
- Hints of mysterious things beyond the mundane World which to seek and discover. IE: Any story written by superstitious authors.
- Hints of free will, denying that we are slaves to our brain chemistry and equivalent to robots, the existential nightmare that our minds, our personalities, are simply chemical reactions and can and will be easily modified by external agents with or without consent as neuroscience advances. IE: Practically any story written before the 1900s.
- Characters with unrealistically or freakishly eventful lives. IE: Pynchon's novels, Ulysses, Kafka, American Psycho, etc.

It is dishonest to even claim any of these stories are even "set in the Real World" the Real World isn't just defined by its' suffering, but also by its' meaninglessness, predictability and lack of wonder and adventure

[バイポラーたん !Gh99z/1SzU No.19044073]

You're overthinking it.

Life is mostly mundane but intermediately punctuated by dramatic changes. Obviously, this would be uninteresting as fiction. Fiction must be manufactured, and this is true of any era.

[Anonymous No.19044075]

>>19044039
boring derivative post OP, not going to read all of this uninspired sophomoric trash. What is your point little naive boy?

[Anonymous No.19044082]

>>19044039
I was with you until
>Not only are the truths of nihilism, determinism, and materialism finally beginning to reach the average person's ears, but there is also the fact that while we have yet to explore the Universe, it is unlikely that there will be intelligent life in a reachable distance, limiting the breadth of "exploration" to simply observing strange landscapes, not quite satisfactory.
Overall, stories focused on wonder, discovery and/or adventure are practically impossible to set in the Real World;
You posted this. Cringe materialist/nihilist/determinist, go away

[Anonymous No.19044097]

>>19044075
>What is your point little naive boy?
It's ironic that you call me "naive" when you're the one who is desperately denying and avoiding harsh truths that make you uncomfortable
Don't tell me you're an "optimistic nihilist" or some other bullshit

[Anonymous No.19044134]

>>19044039
omg... Your a philosopher! so many philosophy people in this thread.

[Anonymous No.19044138]

>>19044097
I read philosophy. Which is not escapism, but practically putting yourself into the "shit".

[Anonymous No.19044164]

Everything is escapism, if you think about. Huge MILF titties

[Anonymous No.19044183]

>>19044164

[Anonymous No.19044185]

>>19044183
>Written by some out-of-touch boomer
Really makes you think.

[Anonymous No.19044195]

>>19044185
A world leader in sexual therapy and forensics, lol. I guess you don't read old literature since the authors are old and dead, and thus out of touch lmfao

[Anonymous No.19044198]

>>19044097
We've already lost, what's your point? People aren't going to change and you're just along for the ride. You do not matter, is that what you want me to say?

[Anonymous No.19044203]

>>19044195
I disregard the opinion of anyone who has a Twitter account. It is a policy that does wonders.

[Anonymous No.19044212]

>>19044203
I get it, you're an anime trannoid, and it hurts to be mogged like this, but I gotta go with the statistics on this one.

[Anonymous No.19044220]

>>19044212
Is there any work he has done that may interest a "scientific racist" such as I?

[Anonymous No.19044238]

>>19044195
>Another fag who is pushing the globalhomo agenda, lol
FTFY

[Anonymous No.19044242]

>>19044198
Why do you call me naive if you admit to the truths i advocate for all of a sudden? Where is your problem here?

I simply find that fiction books as a whole, even "dark" ones, even "masterpieces", are actually spreaders of dangerous delusions that there is meaning to be found in life, that there is hope for "Good", any transcendental or any hope of "progress"
One should turn to other options such as ascetic retreat and embracing the Unique and the Ego in of itself as the only real truth in order to atleast lower their suffering if possible

[Anonymous No.19044246]

I get the feeling OP is a retard who just graduated high school

[Anonymous No.19044249]

>>19044238
He's literally telling you to avoid anime because it makes you a tranny. I guess you want to be a tranny like Ash Ketchum or goku

[Anonymous No.19044252]

>>19044242
So wouldn't that make the Unique and the Ego the "meaning" to be found in life?

[Anonymous No.19044254]

>>19044242
Utopian shit especially makes me mad...
It's like so many people nowadays have never picked up a history book

[Anonymous No.19044270]

>>19044249
>Avoid Japanese animation because it'll make you gay
This faggot probably didn't even watch LoGH.

[Anonymous No.19044272]

>>19044039
>unironically typing globohomo
You live in the easiest times to ever exist and are still crying about it?

[Anonymous No.19044299]

>>19044097
My life is shit and there's nothing I can do about it. At least Sci fi/fantasy/video games/superhero movies help ease the ache and constant anxiety

[Anonymous No.19044302]

Is life really that bad? I find 21th-century NEETdom to be incredibly cushy. Obviously there's more to life than the pursuit of base pleasures or satiating every little craving, but I find ample meaning in my hobbies and nurturing my little corner of the world.

[Anonymous No.19044307]

>>19044272
I'm only even able to own a computer because i got extremely lucky throughout my life
I grew up poor, but now i'm relieved to make 200 dollars a month which might not sound like alot but it's more income than 95% of the world population, starvation is still rampant and people have longer workloads than medieval peasants did

We are not in the "easiest time in history", and even if we were, it would still not necessarily be the "best time in history" considering we're becoming consumeristic, depressed cattle with discoveries of harsh truths shaving off any sense of meaning or purpose in our lives that made medieval peasants able to appreciate theirs, just that the people who suffer the most from the shittiness of our time either don't have the means to speak cause they're poor, or are expected to "suck it up" because they are sold the myth of progress that people in the past always had these horrendous conditions, when in reality most people are still just as if not even unhappier and more overworked than peasants were

[Anonymous No.19044309]

>>19044039
>Practically ALL fiction is than reality
That's because none of it is real.

[Anonymous No.19044413]

>>19044307
Oh let me reiterate, easiest time in history for us in the first world lmao. And yes, it is the "best" time in history for the rich people too.
>"[we are becoming] depressed cattle with discoveries of harsh truths shaving off any sense of meaning or purpose in our lives that made medieval peasants able to appreciate theirs
Pic related, you whiney little bitch. First worlders live in unprecedented times. We have all of the world's information at our fingertips, the time to pursue our hobbies, and widespread resources to meet like-minded people. And like everything, it comes with issues, but far less issues than in history. Read a fucking book. Serfs in Russia did nothing but slave away their entire lives. Peasants in England had free time after their labor, but no money to do anything other than toil around in dirt. Do you know how many authors and writers we now have in the modern day compared to three hundred years ago? It's many orders of magnitudes greater.
I don't give a shit about your smelly spic nigger ass living in a third world country, you're right, your life is shit. Go cry some more. Funny part is I literally have hundreds of thousands of dollars in crypto and donating life changing money to you would be a drop in the bucket. But I would never do that since you're just a shitskin slave. Get back to work.

[Anonymous No.19044794]

>>19044097
>nihilism is the truth
>but if you’re an optimistic nihilist you’re Reddit!
Way to out yourself as an inconsistent troll

[Anonymous No.19044876]

None of these are insights. You're a whining child.

[Anonymous No.19044898]

>>19044876
>WAAH! WAAAAAH!
>t. you

[Anonymous No.19044930]

What was even the point of this thread?

[Anonymous No.19045050]

>>19044183
They took his account off of Medium. Have any idea where I can read the essay?

[Anonymous No.19045082]

>>19044039
> OP pic
> And that's a good thing!

[Anonymous No.19045141]

>>19044039
Oh no anon is escaping the unfulfilling technocratic world someone bring him back innnnnnnnnnnnn please!!!!!! WE CANT LET HIM GET AWAY WITH THIS

[Anonymous No.19045200]

>>19044272
But anon...
I don't really want to live in "easier times".

[Anonymous No.19045314]

>>19044413
>t. materialist

[Anonymous No.19045497]

>>19045314
"Money doesn't matter" is a cope for those without money.

[Anonymous No.19046519]

My fictional world and its characters are my sole escapism. I fear that other people would laugh at it and at them, therefore i dread to write it to existence. They wouldn’t get it anyway, i say to myself.

[Anonymous No.19047176]

>>19044082
those are some really fantastic looking tits. love the blouse-framed-by-a-vest look.

[Anonymous No.19047326]

>>19044039
pointless suffering kind of feels nice thought, like it's fun.