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Dragon Hunting edition

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The prose is pretty good so far, I just picked up The Last Wish. What’s his best work?

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Does anyone have a list of self-published authors? Been wanting to support a few of them by buying their books.

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I recently read some old-time space operas, tuf voyaging by grrm and the planet of adventure by jack vance, and the atmosphere that they have created is mesmerising though they cover different aspects.
Tuf voyaging is martin's self-avowed homage to vance, more so than the songs of dying earth, and it can be observed in the interaction of the characters, and in the stilted, baroque dialogue. It is set in the 1000 worlds like his other stories: dying of the light, song for lya, sandkings and windhaven to name a few.
I have tracked down and read all the works in this setting, and have found them to be extremely well written; martin has this capacity of writing from a myriad of viewpoints and this tone oozes through all of his work.
So, the dying of the light and windhaven are melancholic, whereas tuf voyaging focusses on the ecological aspects of the planets and their manipulation.
The loosely-connected series stands incomplete; many do not know that martin was supposed to tie-up his manrealm saga, as they are called, with a series (mostly a trilogy) on Avalon, a planet that is in the background of most of his stories, when he conceived asoiaf.

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Vance's planet of adventure feels akin to the world in cugel's saga; it is alien world with a brown sun with humans enslaved by different species, interspersed with free human. Those who have enjoyed cugel's roaming about, exploring the rich world, would enjoy it, as this series has that aplenty, along with the trademark vance's haggling dialogues.
My biggest fear while reading vance's works is the knowledge that they eventually end, thankfully he has many works and i am perusing them leisurely.

>> No.19145309

>>19144897
you can pretty much start anywhere honestly, he has a very consistent style and quality. his best standalones are Sharps and The Folding Knife in my opinion, if you prefer something longer you could try the engineer trilogy or even jump into his latest series (sort of) which is a lot of fun - the next and (i think?) last one is expected to come out in january
https://www.goodreads.com/series/289412-the-siege

>> No.19145555

>>19144868
Are you morons so unimaginative that you can't imagine certain things as plot points? You can even make the act of staring at a screen all day long a plot point if you try hard enough. I don't even care about rape but holy shit how can someone be so stupid?

>> No.19145614

>>19145149
Most of them are degenerate-coom shit with a subpar story.

>> No.19145618

>>19144841
>What are some non-meme and non-nigger-related ways to include rape in a story?
Include it solely as fap material for the reader.

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>Sixteen Ways to Defend a Walled City
What's the point in reading this shit then? Author can only do the one thing but can't actually do it apparently

>> No.19145682

>>19144913
Just finished Robin Hobb's Farseer Trilogy. I liked it a good bit. Specifically, I liked her prose, and overall the experience of reading it was pretty comfy.

Next up in the genre, I'm considering The Wheel of Time or The Stormlight Archive. I'd really like to start ASOIAF but I refuse to until he finishes the damn series. I don't want to end up waiting for sequels again in an unfinished series. It's frustrating enough waiting for another Kingkiller Chronicle book.

>> No.19145693

>>19145682
if you want finished then go wheel of time cos stormlight isn't even halfway done

>> No.19145696

>>19145693
Oh. Well that makes it easier then.

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So all of my manuscripts have been rejected by almost every SFF publisher out there, so I'm going the self publishing route. I'm currently teaching myself oil painting so I can make covers for my books, not shitty Empress Theresa-tier covers either, we're talking Michael Whelan, Daniel Horne, Frank Frazetta-level paintings (although I know I could never be as masterful as them, I can still try); I already have lots of drawing experience and was pleasantly surprised to learn that a lot of it transfers over to painting, which is nice, still grinding that Loomis though. I estimate about six months before I can paint a decent landscape, and maybe a year before I can paint a decent nude figure. Wish me luck

>> No.19145727

>>19145717
good luck anon i believe in you

>> No.19145736

>>19144913
All /sffg/fags must hang

>> No.19145761

>>19145682
Why dont you continue with the Tawny Man Trilogy by Robin Hobb? Also, if you like her prose consider reading the Riftwar cycle by Raymond Feist.

>> No.19145775

>>19145761
That's open for consideration too. Although I didn't know if I'd want to follow The Fool as a protagonist. Not even sure if he is but I assumed that from the title. Either way I will almost certainly go back to her someday. I just have an instinct to change things up after reading 3 books by the same author.

>> No.19145776

>>19145682
If you care at all about prose DO NOT read anything by Sanderson. He writes like an autistic kid tells a story, a vomit of information that gets bogged down in irrelevant details constantly.
Wheel of Time is somewhat better in that is actually has prose, but it is and was intended to be a big fat 80's anime, and it never tries to be anything else.

If you want something more Hobb like (albei without all the misery porn) try the Penric series by Bujold.

>> No.19145782

>>19145776
I've read the Mistborn trilogy so I'm familiar with his writing. It's not particularly good. I can tolerate it, but I definitely don't enjoy it.

>> No.19145784

>>19145776
>Penric series
Hit reply early. Sounds interesting, I'll add it to my list at the very least, thanks.

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>>19145782
It gets legitimately horrific in Stormlight. The Mistborn books are at least kind of brief for Sanderson, but with the Stormlight books, I think they average like 1100 pages between them, and you could easily cut 600 of them and lose nothing but horrendous exposition or retreading the same shit that's already been exposed.

>>19145784
The Penric series is great, just be prepared for the author being a lusty old broad. I think the only thing Bujold likes more than a lithe, strapping pretty boy, is a dashing, burly daddy.

>> No.19145800

>>19145676
That title would lead me to think that it's a fantastical story and not something historically accurate.

>> No.19145821

>>19145798
Haha wow. Fucking audibly laughed at that excerpt. And yeah, Mistborn 1 I enjoyed for the plot but then 2 and 3 were kind of eh and I only finished them to see what happened at the end of the trilogy. I didn't consider that he could get worse in another series.

Lusty old broad, I can probably tolerate that. It's when you have neckbeardy guys writing supplicant women that it gets cringy.

>> No.19145833

>>19145821
>Lusty old broad, I can probably tolerate that
I honestly found in refreshing. All these other authors try to subvert your expectations, then along comes Bujold with an absolute CHAD in shining armor on a literal white horse, rescuing a woman, who instantly starts getting hot for him only to be massively disappointed five pages later when he introduces her to his hot as fuck wife who is half his age.
This actually happens in one of her books (Paladin of Souls) and it was both hilarious and completely honest with what it was. Bujold loves men and it really shows in her work.

>> No.19145878

>>19145676
If some random on Goodreads says so, it must be true.

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>>19145798
That image will never not make me wince. Grim.

>> No.19145889

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_knausEgv3A&t=775s

sci-fi about theme parks? not jurassic park or westwold, but like bastard labryinthian theme parks that are meant to satisfy the weird masochist taste for living in a dystopia, have lots of awesome animatronics (that aren't sentient) and 3000rpm spinning rides that take you for a spin if your not careful. maybe set in some dystopian country like ching chong disney baskteball man resort pyongyang? with weird chinese food and shit, all the cultures in dystopias smashed together into one resort?

>> No.19145895

>>19145889
I'd rather have a book about the perils of the future Chinese factories that make the theme park equipment, wouldn't you?

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/rape/ - Rape General

Hard Gay Edition

Previous Thread:>>19127548

>Recommended reading charts (Look here before asking for vague recs)
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>>>>/t/1023504

>Discord
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>> No.19145962

>>19145957
Wow. Better than the Anime Troon edition with sjw art.

>> No.19145969

>>19145962
If it doesn't have a muscular ass in the OP, its sjw edition.

>> No.19146011

>>19144913
>not!Book Club
now: the scar https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/68497.The_Scar
spooktober:
songs of a dead dreamer and grimscribe https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/24611567-songs-of-a-dead-dreamer-and-grimscribe
the dark eidolon and other fantasies https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/18143067-the-dark-eidolon-and-other-fantasies
nov 1: assassin's apprentice https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/77197.Assassin_s_Apprentice

>> No.19146039

>>19145895
amazing idea perhaps i shall re-write for an 8th draft

>> No.19146731

>>19145962
You don’t even know what anime even is.

>> No.19146897

>>19145149
I really need to get around to updating this. Read hundreds of self pubbed books since I made this.

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Is he the most redpilled fantasy author? The Daenerys, Cersei and Arianne storylines each seem like a case study in why women shouldn't be allowed to rule.

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>>19146898

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>>19144675
Try Iron Prince. It's a thousand pages of fight scenes. The book doesn't even get to the tournament at the end of the first year of school. That will have to wait for the sequel I guess.

>> No.19147228

>>19146991
magna cum loudly

>> No.19147236

I started reading the mars trilogy. I'm liking it so far. Have any of you actually read that?

>> No.19147447

>>19145149
Tao Wong is good even though his latest System Apocalypse book is pure clickbait for the final book of the series. There are also a few good writers at Royalroad.

>> No.19147510

>>19145149
>Daniel Greene read Unsouled, disliked it
>Didn't even attempt to make a joke about being Unsold on Unsouled
This is why I can't take him seriously. Also Unsouled was good.

>> No.19147555

Does anybody have an epub download for Logan Jacobs' Stealing Starships? He released a sequel this week and I could find the sequel but not the first one at any of the usual places.

>> No.19147595

>>19147510
>Greene

>> No.19147605

>Gene Wolfe is our James Joyce; BOTNS is our Ulysses
Who is our Pynchon, and what is our Gravity's Rainbow?

>> No.19147636

>>19146898
If that's your criteria then Jordan would be hard to beat.

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>>19147636
>ancient order of female wizards
>consistently been fucking up every single country on the continent (for thousands of years) so they get to act like princesses
Aes Sedai, not even once.

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>>19145149
Check out Crimson Tower. I wrote it, also has a soundtrack for free on youtube. Sort of a fantasy/mystery kind of deal.

Writing the sequel right now. Gunna be more like a light novel compared to the first.

>> No.19147854

>>19145149
>>19147838
Also anyone interested in a free copy can hit me up. crimsontower77@gmail

>> No.19147896

>>19145717
Fiverr has a lot of good artists if you have like...50-100 dollars to spend depending on what kind of cover you want. But I can respect learning art to draw your own covers. I say do both.

Either way good luck, man.

>> No.19147928

I need an idea quick, can anybody think of a material that will be valuable enough for coinage in a setting with common asteroid mining?

>coins
>space

Yes, I know. Can't have government digital currencies or blockchain cryptos in a universe with no unified government or FTL radio.

>> No.19147961

>>19147928
A made up mineral that has all the properties you want it to have.

>> No.19148011

>>19147236
>I started reading the mars trilogy. I'm liking it so far. Have any of you actually read that?

I read the first book, you will get sick of it soon enough. What felt like a full third of the book is the description of imaginary geological features on Mars, unbearable. The various confusing time jumps and flashbacks didnt make it any better.

>> No.19148032

>>19147928
Booze, or cigarettes made from earth grown tobacco ... or some special drug, like the soma in Brave New World. That is just the shit miners would love.

>> No.19148085

>>19147928
like this anon said >>19148032 food portions or some other kind of consumable would probably take the place of traditional currency; it's happened before in history
>Cacao beans that are used to make chocolate are a food that was once used as currency. Historians believe that cacao has been in existence for at least 2,000 years, and records show evidence of cacao beans being used for trading or purchasing of items by the Mayans and Aztecs in Latin America in the 1500s.
>Salt has been used as a form of currency throughout history, and the word “salary” is derived from the Latin world “salarium”, Roman for “money used to buy salt.” In East Africa through the Middle Ages, salt was the primary form of currency. Roman soldiers received their salaries in salt.
>Tea bricks were used in Central Asia. In Mongolia, these tea bricks were the favorite form of payment because they could be brewed or eaten.
>Academics sometimes research food stamps as a currency, as they represent more than $10 billion in personal income. Some say that, indeed, food stamps can substitute for what is generally considered money.

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>>19148085
>money doesn't grow on trees
mongolian:

>> No.19148469

>>19147928
Dirt. Good old fashioned planting soil with all the microbes and minerals needed to grow food.

>> No.19148688

I got duckweed into reading Swords Of Shannara. I threw it in the dumpster after the brutal LotR copy paste about how the elf stones work LMFAO

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>>19148688
come to the light side

>> No.19148874

>>19147928
Digital currencies. Each government has its own, and exchange rates are constantly in flux. Not everyone will accept them all either, so you could end up with millions that you can't spend without leaving the galaxy.

>> No.19148904

>>19147928
If you want to have it realistic make currency backed up by violence like in current year. Not sure if there's any material good worthy enough to be currency in age of space resource harvesting, perhaps only antimatter with how difficult it is to procure. And there is a basic but plausible way of treating energy as currency.

>> No.19148944

>>19147928
>>19148904
Also barter would be commonplace in a setting where civilization is scattered and decentralized. Weapons, fuel, exotic commodities, objects of art, valuable knowledge or just fresh information that travelers carry, anything can be used in transaction.

>> No.19148962

>>19148709
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oqGfr_stmxg

>> No.19149084

>>19148709
post your top 3 chinkshit NOW

>> No.19149102

>>19149084
I've never actually read any I just think it's funny

>> No.19149118

>>19149102
I thought it was funny too the first time I saw it, five years ago. Why the fuck do retards insist on running a joke into the ground so hard? It's been reposted thousands of times, why do you feel the need to keep posting it?

>> No.19149166

>>19144913
Shadow of the Torturer Excerpt containing Spoilers
>Now I must write something that still shames me, even after all that has
occurred. The watches of that afternoon were the happiest of my life. All my old
hatred of the guild had vanished, and my love for it, for Master Palaemon, my
brothers, and even the apprentices, my love for its lore and usages, my love
which had never wholly died, was all that remained. I was leaving all those
things I loved, after having disgraced them utterly. I should have wept.
I did not. Something in me soared, and when the wind whipped my cloak out behind
me like wings, I felt I might have flown.

Really enjoying this so far. The letter format annoyed me at first. It felt like a shitty pointless plot device but it's growing on me.

>> No.19149749

>>19145177
Grrm didn’t finish a series? You must be kidding me.

>> No.19149767

>>19145693
Yes but it will be. Say one thing for Brando Sando but he pumps out work like no one else

>> No.19149913

>>19146898
That's what I always thought. He has a pretty realistic portrayal on women despite his feminist views. The smart ones (Catelyn) aren't snarky know-it-all cunts and the weak ones (like Sansa) are human enough for you to feel genuine sympathy for them. Even Brienne who was the tough lady character isn't an unbeatable powerhouse like every other character following her trope

I hate this womyn power ""subversion"" trend and at least GRRM seems to avoid it. I can only imagine neckbeards reading books featuring girl power then clapping and guffawing every time a woman says a forced witty one-liner that no real woman on the planet could ever think of on the spot

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>>19147510
>taking Daniel ((Greene)) seriously in any context whatsoever

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>>19148709
Are there any books similar to Thunderbolt Fantasy?

>> No.19149954

>>19147595
>>19149923
he's unironically the only watchable booktuber

>> No.19149958

>>19149933
I've watched some chinese cartoons, none are as pure chad as Thunderbolt Fantasy

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>>19149958
Ironically, it's probably because of the well known japanese writer more than anything.

>> No.19150054

>>19149913
catelyn is actually a bit of a retard

>> No.19150056

>>19150054
She's responsible for at least half of the problems in ASOIAF

>> No.19150549

>>19150054
>>19150056
Catelyn actually became really smart all of a sudden after she released Jamie Lannister, like this final act of stupidity used up all of her retard power and left her a sane, competent person for the first time. Too bad by that point the damage was done, her credibility was squandered and there was nobody left to listen to her or take her seriously.

>> No.19150565

How do you think all of the fans of Arthur felt when the OC Lancelot character became part of canon, overtook all of the knights in power, became the focus of all the new chapters, and finally cucked the main character?

>> No.19150578

>>19150549
It’s a well known fact that Martin needed the Lannisters to win. It’s why he makes everyone else retarded and makes them win when they shouldn’t. Shit, just take a look at Stannis campaign. He dispatch soldiers that lived near the kingswood around king’s landing and they lost to Tyrion’s mountain clans.

>> No.19150580

>>19150565
they got their revenge with galahad who is a legitimately cool character imo

>> No.19150592

>>19150578
maybe in the show but in the books he could have just given them 50k more troops or something, he's the author he doesn't need to do stuff like that to make the lannisters win, stannis is a fag anyway and fuck stannisfans

>> No.19150616

so I'm currently reading book 5 of The Expanse, thinking they'd be better than the TV show, but they're just as bad.
Just like the series, book 1 was the best, and then got progressively worse.
Is there something like The Expanse, but better?

>> No.19150620

>>19150578
The Lannisters have arguably the most retarded person in a position of power ever though: Cersei. She's such an over the top despicable person that it strains the suspension of disbelief that she would be allowed to continue on as she did. The follies of the Starks are as nothing next to her.

>>19150578
>in the books he could have just given them 50k more troops
Martins' armies are already grossly over inflated for the kind of society he is trying to depict. Granted it's fantasy so it can be whatever, but both he and his fans yammer on about how "medieval" his setting is, when it's really anything but.

>> No.19150636

>>19150620
GRRM wrote a metal setting. The TV show doesn't capture this aspect very well at all, but that's what he wrote. The castles are giant fucking mountains, the armies are fuck huge and people like the Mountain and Jaime mow them down like its musou, there's a giant stone fucking wall miles high across an entire continent, the Dothraki are mongols who raid ALL THE FUCKING TIME, the Ironborn are vikings who never trade or farm they just RAID ALL THE TIME, everyone wears metal album covers for helmets, the setting is so over the top its insane

>> No.19150644

>>19150636
Can't forget the iron throne itself, which is described as being a giant 50 foot block of spiked melted steel you need to climb up to sit on

>> No.19150659

>>19145717
Submitting straight to a publishing house can be rough, maybe try a literary agent to help?

I’m not a expert though, but I’ve heard somewhere lit agents can help the process. Whatever you do good luck! Let us know where you publish it.

>> No.19150721

>>19145696
Sanderson isn't a two-bit hack faggot and actually puts out TSA books at an acceptable pace, unlike Rothfuss.

>> No.19150736

>>19145833
>I found reading about strapping young lads refreshing

kys faggot

>> No.19150774

>>19150636
Don't forget the time scale everything operates on, like everything else you mentioned it's larger than life. Dynasties that lasted for thousands of years, somehow.

>> No.19150779

>>19145696
You can rest assured it will be finished. I'm not sure if you can consider it a virtue given his output but Sanderson is reliable when it comes to finishing books. His idea of a break from writing a series is to start a new series.

>> No.19150787

>>19145717
>So all of my manuscripts have been rejected by almost every SFF publisher out there
Did you submit directly to a publisher? Because most big publishers do not accept unsolicited manuscripts as a general rule. They won't even read it. You need an agent to submit it, or get some kind of inside track, for a publisher to actually consider you.

>> No.19150791

>>19150659
Lit agents are required to submit to many big publishers. There are a few that don't need them, but they often have stipulations about when and how you can submit. The important thing is to always read the conditions for submitting a resume anywhere and to follow the instructions exactly. If you don't submit according to the rules of the Publisher or Literary Agency they will not even bother looking at your submission.

>> No.19150822

>>19145798
How is sanderboy writing the only lantino pov is the most idiotic way possible anything but based. Also making latinos crab mutts too.

>> No.19151111

>>19150787
>>19150791
Imagine spending countless hours on manuscripts just to skip reading how to properly query and submit your works to an agent first. I wonder if any books nowadays come from the publishers’ own slush piles.

I am giving him the benefit of a doubt and say his writing is good, plot is interesting etc. If no one reads your manuscript it’s not going to get published. If you are intern at a publishing house you are going to read hundreds of manuscripts and sometimes you are just unlucky.

But it might also be that your manuscripts suck ass. Can you provide any samples of your writing?

>> No.19151121

>>19149954
He is the least AND the most watchable booktuber. In all earnestness, one should NOT watch any of them.

>> No.19151131

>>19147693
Also fuck Bene Gesserit
Also fuck wizards in Witcher universe

All the spellcasters only cause problems

>> No.19151136

>>19147838
How much money have you made with your book?

>> No.19151152

>>19151111
>Imagine spending countless hours on manuscripts just to skip reading how to properly query and submit your works to an agent first.
It happens a lot, surprisingly. I wouldn't have known the reality if I didn't a publishing course in college as part of my writing minor.

>> No.19151170

>>19151152
Look at the books published today, most of them aren’t even that good. Most are mediocre at best. It’s about marketing.

>> No.19151224

>>19147510
I liked unsouled as well, do you have any recommendations for other series?

>> No.19151246

>>19145736
After you

>> No.19151260

>>19145878
his profile has him reading nonfiction books on military stuff and he gave specific examples so i'm inclined to believe he's right

>> No.19151270

>>19149913
it's simply about having some kind of cause-and-effect for a character's actions. the unbearable female characters usually written today do not have this.

>> No.19151296

>>19145676
I would say you read it. That guy is a hack; the author is a goddamn engineer. This guys fantasy career is built on this kinda stuff, and he knows it by heart.

The ending is shite tho, if you want a satisfactory conclusion you have to read the next one. Theres a third one on the way, but I cannot tell you anything about it.

>> No.19151407

>>19145149
Sword of Kaigen was fun, if not schlock like the rest of this list

>> No.19151765

>>19151260
I'd believe KJ Parker over some random, Parker writes about what he knows - engineering, woodworking, fencing, sieges. Here's an article he wrote about sieges back in 2009.
https://subterraneanpress.com/magazine/summer_2009/on_sieges_by_k_j_parker

>> No.19152210

There's an essay in Ursula K Le Guin's book 'Language of the Night' that talks about science fiction and fantasy books in relation to 'real literary novels,' and asks the question: can SFF writers write an actual novel? I know serious discussion of these kinds of things is discouraged here but I highly recommend reading the essay

>> No.19152978

>>19149166
Keep going anon! Be sure to read carefully and enjoy the prose craft.

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reading though threads on r/Fantasy genuinely scares me; all these people talking about how they can't stand descriptions of anything longer than a sentence or two, they can't finish a book if they can't relate to/see themselves in the main character, they'd rather read about long battle scenes and magic instead of scenes with emotional character development, etc etc. I understand that a lot of these people read purely for entertainment but come on, if you aren't going to enjoy the 'book' part of a 'fantasy book,' then why read in the first place? Why not play video games or watch anime? Genuine question

>> No.19153188

>>19153028
They probably never wanted to read in first place but someone told them they would become smarter, or at least appear smarter, if they do.
>they can't finish a book if they can't relate to/see themselves in the main character
This particular part is complete enigma to me. Why would you do that? Understanding characters is as much imagination related activity as building a picture that is described by book's text. I can't stand a fucking self insert blank protags, they make me feel like author doesn't take the reader seriously, but apparently those are very important for this kind of audience.

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>read fairly generic old SF book
>main character has a fictional philosophy that seems to be space stoicism more or less
>chapters start with quotes from fictional philosophy books

Any other books like this?

>> No.19153260

>>19153028
>reddit
there's your problem. every larger subreddt on there is garbage, r/books, r/literature. r/fantasy especially, are all awful places for discussing books. the only good ones are r/truelit (because it is heavily moderated ironically, they wont let you discuss genre fiction though) and r/bookscirclejerk (because they make fun of the other subreddits)

>> No.19153383

>>19153228
Bakker unironically

>> No.19153412

>>19147928
Assuming this isnt some space socialist utopia, there should be some sort of stratification between spacers and the planetbound. Spacers could deal almost exclusively in practical goods and the barter system, with certain high-cost-of-manufacture materials being used in place of currency and can be exchanged for for planetary fiat currency only valuable with the govt the spacer is working with or allied govts.

Metallic hydrogen maybe?

>> No.19153654

>>19153412
Don't worry, there is a socialist uropis, because if you say its not you go to space gulag. Wouldn't metallic hydrogen need technobabble bullshit to not explosively sublimate at room temperature?

>> No.19153826

>read The Thousandfold Thought with no spoilers or preconceptions
>find Kellhus Anasûrimbor and Cnaiür urs Skiötha deeply relatable
What does this mean?

>> No.19153845

>>19153028
>go to r/Fantasy
>people asking for dumber books
>go to r/haremfantasynovels
>people asking for more character development and more believable odds for the main character
heh, KDP trash wins again

>> No.19153937

>>19153845
>go to r/Fantasy
your first mistake

>> No.19154004

>>19153028
>>19153260
>>19153845
>r/fantasy
it's trash that's ruled by a cabal of cat lady bugmen moderators that shill their own books continually and stickied a thread where they falsely accused an author of rape (which was hurriedly covered up after it turned out the rape allegations were bullshit)
If you criticise these people or expose the fact that they accused a guy of rape you will get banned off the entire site within a few hours

>> No.19154079

>>19153937
>>19154004
I posted there a few years ago in a more reddit-browsing era. I got some ok recommendations but also some truly awful recommendations. I seriously have no idea how people read some of the shit they do. Also, how they mention great series and shit series in the same breath.

>> No.19154083

Just read Novik's Deadly Education/Last Graduate because I was bored.
Not particularly good, but despite myself I now give a shit about these characters. I hate having to wait for new books to come out.

>> No.19154225

>>19154004
>>19154079
Beyond the specific cultural problems of r/Fantasy itself, the entire Reddit structure is designed to disincentivize interesting discussion. Upvotes ensure that everything that goes to the top is lowest common denominator bullshit (which is why they're constantly whining about Sanderson being over-recced) and when you disagree with someone, well, why bother engaging them in a debate you could potentially lose when it's so much easier to hit downvote? The rush of dopamine is the same.
4chan has its own problems but if you want to disagree with someone at least you have to actually buck up and call them a faggot to their face.

>> No.19154439

>>19151136
Around $50. It's really hard to get people to buy a book with no author/book recognition. I've had so many people click on my ads but barely anyone ends up buying it. Hopefully once I slowly build up an audience it will get easier.

>> No.19154701

>>19153028
>all these people talking about how they can't stand descriptions of anything longer than a sentence or two
Genuinely based.
>they can't finish a book if they can't relate to/see themselves in the main character
Genuinely gay.
>they'd rather read about long battle scenes and magic instead of scenes with emotional character development, etc etc.
Genuinely based.
>I understand that a lot of these people read purely for entertainment but come on, if you aren't going to enjoy the 'book' part of a 'fantasy book,' then why read in the first place? Why not play video games or watch anime? Genuine question
You might be retarded, anon. Do you think adventure-style fantasy never existed until "video games or anime?" Have you never read a short story before? Did you not even know short stories are a thing???

>> No.19154789

>>19153651

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k9pP6G-AAHw

>> No.19154804

>>19153028
>instead of scenes with emotional character development
I don't read fantasy for emotional shit. If I want that I would go for romance or some general fiction. I want people doing shit, keep your "muh emotions are what makes me human" shit for the trash.

>> No.19154840

>>19154439
I've noticed a lot of the smaller fantasy reddits have a pretty decent community of trying everyone's books, so you might try that if you haven't already. Also I don't know what you have to do to get on Kindle Unlimited but go for it if you can. Many of the people who read just any KDP have it and are likely to at least give it a shot that way. Not sure how the compensation to the author is calculated but it's better than nothing.

>> No.19155181

>>19153028
Reddit is for fags, including you since yo go there, but
> instead of scenes with emotional character development
Only fags and women read fantasy for this.

>> No.19155346

>>19154840
Ay thanks for the advice man. I appreciate it.

>> No.19155378

>>19153228
Bakker's Second Apocalypse series is full of this stuff

>> No.19155521

>>19155346
No problem. Good luck to ya

>> No.19155554

>>19145798
It's shocking that Bujould hasn't gone for broke and written a series about an emotionally damaged pretty boy fucking an emotionally damaged older man. She was halfway there with Ethan of Athos.

>> No.19155555

>>19144931
"Last Wish" isn't part of the Witcher saga.

Blood of elves is the first book of the Witcher Saga.

>> No.19155562

>>19155555
check'd

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>>19155554
Ethan of Athos was fucking great, if just for the ending
>Ethan fuck me RIGHT NOW I'm ovulating
>No way fag, women suck, I'm going back to the gay planet

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>>19154701
>>19154804
>>19155181
>I READ FANTASY FOR LE EPIN SWORDFIGHTS!!!!

>> No.19155778

ok I downloaded a fuckton of books from the SFF torrents, what's an easy way to automatically select one at random?

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>>19155768
yes

>> No.19155841

>>19155778
RNG a letter and a number for book title and number of that book, or something along those lines.

>> No.19155888

>>19153826
you have autism and anger issues?

>> No.19155911

>>19154083
I wish that the series had started with the first year at the school in order to distribute the constant exposition dump over a few more books, but I do get the merit of jumping in where the first book does.

>> No.19156291

>>19153826
ur based

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>tfw finally started Prince of Nothing after it was on backlog from the circlejerk in these threads from several years ago
>tfw read about half of it on the first 2 days

I'm normally a sci fi only type of guy but Bakker is so far truly excellent. Tell me his quality doesn't drop, bros.

>> No.19156455

>>19156388
if you like it now it just gets better desu
there are some lulls in book iii and books iv-v but for the most part he runs a tight ship. nothing like the slog of time

>> No.19156746

>>19156388
Most people don't get hooked until the end of the first book, so it's pretty much uphill from there in my opinion.

>> No.19156786

How the fuck can I find something new to read? Everywhere I look is just spammed with retarded garbage and/or erotica for middle aged wine aunts.

>> No.19156847
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>>19156786
maybe try lowering your standards

>> No.19156851

>>19155181
>>19154804
YA fags please leave

>> No.19156852

>>19156786
For me, it's wandering around high quality second hand book stores.

Have you read "Vast" by Linda Nagata? It's an interesting take on the future and well developed characters. Elevator pitch is humanity colonizes the galaxy but changes towards posthuman in the process. Die hard "pure" human frontiersmen type are forced to the very edge. Then the center of the galaxy goes dark, and rolls out, The frontiersmen look back and every single posthuman civilization has collapsed. They send a ship to investigate why.

>> No.19156958

>>19156852
I looked it up because the premise is a bit interesting, and it's part of a long series by a white woman pretending to be asian, who also writes nothing but Hugobait.

>> No.19156997

>>19156455
>he runs a tight ship
are you kidding? the entire first two books are a massive slog

>> No.19157043

>>19156997
I think the only book i'd consider a slog is The Judging Eye and maybe TDTCB but only because there's so much info to digest on a first reading.

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Non-english speaking bros, can you recommend some fantasy (preferably with medieval setting) written by authors from your country or some other country that isn't US or UK? I only know the witcher and only because of the video game desu

>> No.19157058

>>19157054
by non-englsih speaking i obviously mean ESL btw

>> No.19157101

Just finished Wisdom of Crowds. Abercrombie good.

>> No.19157170

>>19153260
Trouble empathizing with others because they're so self-centered.

>> No.19157250

>>19156958
>white woman pretending to be asian
Reeeing about a woman taking her husband's surname.

>> No.19157264
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>the Wheel weaves as the Wheel wills

>> No.19157283

>>19157264
Should I read Wheel of Time? That's a lot of book

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>>19157264
>>19157283
>read EOTW
>it's okay i guess
>read TGH
>don't really like it but I maybe I will be hooked when I read the next one
>read TDR
>okay I don't enjoy this at all but there's no way the series would be this popular if they were bad, I need to continue
>read half of TSR
>fuck this

I can thank Wheel of Time for teaching me not to bother with series if the first book is shit

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>the Wheel weaves as the Wheel wills
>>19157283
Yes

>> No.19157304

>>19157283
Do you like 80's anime? Both questions have the same answer.

>> No.19157315

>>19157304
Name some examples.

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>>19157304
Empathic yes

>> No.19157320

>>19157317
Then you'll probably like Wheel of Time.

>> No.19157325

>>19157320
I'm okay with this.

>> No.19157333

i hate WOT so much that I'm also starting to hate people that like the series. Like what the fuck is wrong with you? Why can't you have good taste?

>> No.19157334

>>19157333
Go on, recommend something that you consider to be in good taste.

>> No.19157363

>>19157334
>spoonfeed me
nah, fuck off wotnigger

>> No.19157376

>>19145717
how exactly does one self publish? Do you just upload your book on some internet platform?

>> No.19157530

>>19157363
Pathetic.

>> No.19157620

>>19157376
yeah to amazon as far as i know, there's also people you can pay like a couple thousand bucks and they will print a few thousand phyiscal copies of ur book but good luck selling those

>> No.19157623

>>19156786
have you read bakker yet

>> No.19157633

>>19157620
so I guess the only people doing this are the ones whose works are rejected by all publishers? Getting a bigger cut from selling your work doesn't mean anything if it doesn't sell to begin with

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>bakker

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picked this up last night and finished it this morning. unironically good self-published military sci-fi

>> No.19157929

>>19147510
>Daniel Greene

Is this Shit-lib seriously going to be /sffg/'s new favorite book tuber?

You do know this guy is the epitome of everything wrong with Zoomers? His rainbow dong is already demonstrates this.

>> No.19157939

>>19149954

I'd rather just read walls of texts in Book reads rather than watch this honkey

>> No.19157946

>>19157939

**walls of review posts in Good reads

>> No.19157994

>>19157929
He's annoying and he didn't like Berserk, what a doo-doo head.

>> No.19158014

>>19157283
I cannot in good faith recommend it.

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>>19147510
>>19147595
>>19149923
>>19157929
Wow, I regret looking up this guy now. Why are we even talking about him here?

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>>19158135
Wow. That’s a valid point

>> No.19158187

>>19158135
Nobody likes looking at niggers. We really should just drop the semantics at this point. White people (and some asians) are beautiful and built for the big screen. Making every third character or extra a big, burly-lipped, nog saps all believability and entertainment out of the scenes in which they make themselves present.

>> No.19158200

https://twitter.com/PatrickRothfuss/status/1442938556855427074

lol
>Can I write the entirety of book three as a series of bulleted lists

>> No.19158207

>>19158200
Who even wants another book from him at this point?

>> No.19158235

>>19158135
>implying people weren't shitting on game of thrones since they deviated form he books.
Only those who hadn't read the books were defending the show way before the "dreaded 8 season"... because the changes made the story a lot worse.

>> No.19158253

>>19158135
A work needing changes to adapt it to a different medium has nothing to do with the 100% politically motivate step of replacing characters who woulds have been white with other races.

>> No.19158329

>>19157363
Lmao you're such a bitch.

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>>19158135
Should have at least cast attractive negresses.

>> No.19158384

>>19158200
Is he still streaming and banning people who ever mention the book?

>> No.19158471

>daniel (((greene)))
r*ddit faggot who thinks mistborn and WOT are high literature and hates sword and sorcery because it's sexist and "outdated"

>> No.19158535

How are they going to justify Rand's cope of "I am TOTALLY an Emond's Fielder like my dad 100%" if he's the only white guy in the entire village? Everyone else in the village is black. Is he going to be like Steve Martin in The Jerk?

>> No.19158641

>>19158535
Emond's Field is a diverse multicultural village, so being an inhabitant means nothing more than a occupying a certain spaciotemporal location, okay sweety?

>> No.19158736

>>19149084
Reverend Insanity and Martial World. There may be couple others that barely qualify as readable.

>> No.19158978

>>19158471
Why do WOT and Mushoku Tensei get a pass but everything else is problematic?

>> No.19158995

>>19158978
Asians did so it's ok.

>> No.19159012

I'm so confused by the Foundation. Gaale only shows up for like 1 chapter and some references in the dictionary but she's the main character in the TV show so far, and Hari gets murdered by some street kid he took in so how does he have time to record his messages? Is it explained in later books?

>> No.19159039

what are some fantasy books that liberals and leftists hate?

>> No.19159070

I finished Carnival Row and was kind of pissed that it wasn't based off of a book. The show was mediocre but I loved the victorian england/industrial revolution/whatever mixed with fantasy with other races and ritualistic magic and the like. Is there any thing else that's good in a similar setting? It was a nice change from medieval fantasy and even the occasional modern fantasy.

>> No.19159129

>>19158736
i mostly agree unfortunately. Lord of mysteries was pretty decent and i have a soft spot for all of IET's novels like desolate era and xue ying but those are probably the best two. Especially RI.

>> No.19159145

I don't care about the Wheel of Time adaptation, and haven't seen anything from it nor do I plan to, but I've recently read the first book and both Egwene and Nynaeve are explicitly stated to have dark skin. Judging by the illustrations I've seen I am fairly confident all the people complaining about muh ess jay double wouldn't consider them white in the first place. But of course rightoid are fucking hypocrites and tan people like Greeks and Italians are only considered white when it suits them.
I hate the far-right so goddamn much. If they were to collectively commit suicide overnight nothing of value would be lost, suck my fucking dick all of you.

>> No.19159210

Fantasy that rips off Shakespeare plots instead of Tolkien?

>> No.19159269

>>19159070
There's a number of Flintlock Fantasy novels like Powermage (which is only just ok) and Shadow Campaigns (the first one is really good but the second takes a massive shitdive). You should also read or read Jonathan Strange & Mister Norrel

>> No.19159270

>>19159039
Most liberals would be fine with most fantasy series, since fantasy tends to commend the ideals they extol, and condemn the vices and flaws they despise. Leftists, as in people who don't identify as liberal but as some far-left ideology, have endless complaints about any and all literature that does not address class struggle, which for fantasy is most of it.

>> No.19159279

>>19159145
Is this a LARP or a pasta? Theybare described as having dark hair and eyes, not dark skin. Either way, greeks and italians aren't black.

>> No.19159282

>>19159279
It's a copypasta I've seen on /tv/ before.

>> No.19159286

>>19159282
>21 second reply
DAMN anon you got some quick fingers. Hope they get good use.

>> No.19159299

>>19158535
Rand's claim was already considered ridiculous when he made it to Morgase in Caemlyn, since he was the "spitting image of an Aeilman" as Gawyn put it, while Emond's Fielders looked very different from him.

>> No.19159312

>>19159269
>Jonathan Strange & Mister Norrel
Thank you for reminding me. I watched the show years ago and forgot about it so that's another book to read.
>Flintlock Fantasy
And thanks for the search term as well I'm sure it will make finding more easier
>Powermage
>has a harem
Altogether an incredibly based post 10/10

>> No.19159315

>>19158135
I was lambasting the show for its shitty changes since season 1.

>> No.19159318

>>19159312
>Powermage
>has a harem
>Altogether an incredibly based post 10/10
I'm 99% sure he typo'd and meant to type Powdermage. As in gunpowder.

>> No.19159323

>>19159318
kek a single letter almost sent me to an entirely different series. Thanks anon

>> No.19159458

>>19158135
Not only is this a straw man, but it's a straw man that doesn't even make sense. Changing or dropping things from a book series to better fit a live-action adaption isn't comparable at all to changing the actual RACE of main characters purely for marxist reasons. So not only is this kike a leftist piece of shit, but he's also a RETARDED leftist piece of shit who can't even do a straw man properly.

>> No.19159569

>>19159270
>Most liberals would be fine with most fantasy series, since fantasy tends to commend the ideals they extol, and condemn the vices and flaws they despise.
surely there are some fantasy books that are racist and sexist

>> No.19159579

>>19159569
>and sexist
Might I interest you in the wonderful world of harem literature?

>> No.19159612

Should I read Locke Lamora?

>> No.19159626

>>19159612
Yeah

>> No.19159654

>>19159270
lol this isn't remotely true.

>> No.19159669

>>19159039
Any series where virtuous warriors justifiably expel or slaughter hostile invaders to protect their people.

>> No.19159734

I'm reading Dune, reached the 'The Prophet' book. I have to say I was expecting way more political intrigue and way less spiritual and psychological mumble jumble, but it's alright. I'm not sure I'll want to read the sequels, maybe it's not for me.

>> No.19159825

>>19159612
Meh I read book 1 and I thought it was excessive. Didn't feel like reading anything else of the series.

>> No.19159828

>>19159825
theyre all worse than the first one anyway

>> No.19159841

>>19157363
Lol pathetic faggot

>> No.19159867

>>19145192
I've only read Tales of the Dying Earth and a few other short stories by Vance but I liked them a lot, so I might pick these up next.

>> No.19159869

>>19158014
Seconded.

>> No.19160011

>>19158535
Rand's a dumb teenager at the start of the books and didn't even realize he was adopted despite looking nothing like anyone else.
Basically: ignorant peasant boy everyone's been lying to out of sympathy.

>>19159279
I always figured them for Turks or Arabs in my head, but it's all about the same darkness.

What race did everyone think the following were:
Min?
Saldean-Faile?
Emond's Field?
Elayne-Andor?
Borderlanders-Lan?
Moiraine-Cairhienen?
Siuan-Tairen?
Ebou Dari?
Seanchan?

Personally:
SEA
Indian
Arab
English-Slavic
Japanese
German
Italian-Spanish
Brazilian-Latam
Amerimutts

Casting is dipping hard into black, aborigine, and Jew, so we'll see. I have very low expectations for this not being just pure Leftist revisionism of the novels, despite the producer.

>> No.19160024

>>19160011
In Rand's defense he just thought he took after his mother.

>> No.19160050

>>19159129
I am sorry I don't understand how people can read IET work. An illiterate ten year old is probably capable of being a better writer than IET. I tried reading several works of IET, most were just absolutely bad but the one were he attempted to write western characters had the worst story structure, worst dialogue and worst characters probably in all self published work I ever read.

>> No.19160218

>>19159734
>spiritual and psychological mumble jumble
its about a family that goes to an extremely hostile planet with barely any water. they have to learn how to live amongst the natives in order to survive
wtf did you except ?

>> No.19160326

Jehreg series

>> No.19160327

>>19160218
I have no problem with that, I was talking about Paul's prescience, Jessica's collective consciousness experiences and all the trippy descriptions that follows. It gets really tiresome to read. My favorite chapter was the one with the Atreides dinner party, all the mind games, all the players, it was great. I wanted more of that.

>> No.19160418

>>19160327
And I'm sorry for comparing it to ASOIAF, but I couldn't stop thinking that despite being a smaller book, it feels like a lot more happens in AGOT than Dune. More characters, locations, cultures, relationships and drama, factions and action. All in a coherent structure and pleasant pace. Dune drags A LOT by comparison.

>> No.19160439

>>19157304
I don't like anime and wheel of time is 10 times worse than any 80's anime.
It's a hot pile of garbage and any adaptation can only better the shit that is already there, but it's pretty irredeemable either way.

>> No.19160636

I liked wheel of time...

>> No.19160772

Wheel of Time is only good because of a few Blind Guardian songs.

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>>19158736
>Reverend Insanity
There is no way that counts as readable. I tried it back when it was shilled hard and it reads like google translate teamed up with an especially dogshit A.I to write it.

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>>19159039
Unironically Bakker. If he was less of a schizo and wrote something more palatable he might have had a good relationship with his publisher and been a bit more popular.

Good thing he didn't do that, though.

>> No.19160800

>>19160778
Bakker's female characters are interesting if a bit sparse and he's pretty sympathetic towards them. don't know what this bitch who can't follow a simply story is talking about.

>> No.19160805

>they're all slaves or prostitutes, and it was degrading, offensive, and sick
Instant five stars

>> No.19160883

>>19160778
Incredibly based coworker giving this roastie a mental breakdown with a book recommendation

>> No.19160968

>>19145889
Questland by Carrie Vaughn is a bit like that. I actually just started it, haven't gotten that far so don't really have an opinion other than the premise was interesting enough for me to get the book.

>> No.19160998

>>19160050
desu i feel like most chinkshit is super low quality i just like reading them because theyre mindless and have a lot of chapters. I dont see how martial world is significantly better than an IET novel

>> No.19161009

>>19160773
a bad translation doesnt mean the work itself is bad. Most translated lit suffers heavily in the prose department because its impossible to translate something perfectly even from like french to english not to mention chinese. Also the translators are usually chinks who dont even speak fluent english and have no sense of prose so the translation is shit. The work itself is good though, certainly its a masterpiece compared to other chinkshit

>> No.19161050

>>19160418
Dune is 2/3 the length of agot. 188k vs 298k words

>> No.19161092

>>19160778
all right NOW I have to read this

>> No.19161119

>>19160778
I had no difficulty following the plot and was invested immediately. What's Lauren's problem?

>> No.19161136

>>19147236
I dropped the first book when they started singing as a form of protest

>> No.19161151

>>19157054
Only one "high" fantasy saga written in Venezuela and it was shit, so better go for the safe choices:

1-The Wandering Unicorn by Manuel Mujica Lainez.
2-Baudolino by Umberto Eco.

Two of the best fantasy books I ever read, and genuine literature by their own right. One was written by an argie and the second by an italian.

>> No.19161196

>Chinese cartoons have 8 minute long episodes
>2 minutes is the opening sequence
>4 minutes is the ending sequence
Goddamn I just want some cool xianxia bullshit.

>> No.19161245

>>19161119
She's womanish

>> No.19161306

>>19161151
real argie, or argie jew like borges?

>> No.19161415

>>19158736
>Martial World
Once he starts harvesting blood in that multilevel tower it became dogshit for me.
Also, the part where they go from their hometown sect to the big one and are being told "if you eat at the restaurant food everyday you get to master level (compared to their hometown) automatically in time" made me call bullshit immediately.

>> No.19161609

>>19157101
People were talking about that book. Seems it has mixed to good reviews about it.

>> No.19161640

>>19161306
Real argie as far as I am aware.

>> No.19161667

>>19161609
"universal acclamation" isn't really a thing here, so that's about the best you'll get.

>> No.19161668

>>19159070
LITERALLY perdido street station, exactly what ur looking for

>> No.19161710

>>19161667
Nah, even in the mixed reviews, people were okay with it, which is unheard of on here.

>> No.19161727

>>19161668
that book made me feel like a brainlet, I just couldn't get into it

>> No.19161736

>>19145192
Ive been reading Vance for over 30 years. Recently discovered some short stories of his I'd never read before. And there's a couple of his detective stories I haven't gotten around to as well.

>> No.19161742

>>19147928
Ayy foreskins, my nigga. Thank me with 2% royalties

>> No.19161775

>>19161727
How?

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>>19158736
>>19159129
>Reverend Insanity
Based. Gonna go check out Martial World now since you mentioned it

>> No.19161822

>>19161736
>Vance
Is he good? I keep seeing his name being posted here.

>> No.19161831

>>19161822
He was the single biggest influence on D&D besides arguably Tolkien, for whatever that's worth

>> No.19161834

>>19156997
>the slog of slogs! to the coffers, boys!

>> No.19161906

>>19159654
Said the man with nothing to add to the conversation.

>> No.19161913

what are some fantasy books that triggers the libs and destroy left wings?

>> No.19161919

>>19161821
Check out A Record of a Mortal’s Journey to Immortality

>> No.19161922

>>19161913
The Prince of Nothing by Scott Bakker

>> No.19161928

>>19161922
How would a leftist author destroy libs and left wings?

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>>19161928
filtered by king Bakker the owner of libs and destroyer of left wings

>> No.19161942

libs OWNED
left wings DESTROYED
YUP! it's Bakker time

>> No.19161944

>>19161942
Holy Based! Bakker is king, wubba lubba dub dub!

>> No.19161947

>>19161928
There is no bigger antagonist to lefties than other, slightly different, lefties.

>> No.19161954

>>19161947
You owned him with facts and logic, they don't care about his feelings, total destruction

>> No.19161959

>>19161928
He wouldn't. Bakker is reddit supreme. Don't know why that anon recommended him. Personally, I would recommend Robert A. Heinlein, but he isn't a fantasy writer. His book, Starship Troopers should suffice.

>> No.19161960

Ironic shitposting is still shitposting.

>> No.19161967

>>19161928
wtf? I thought he was based..

>> No.19162019

>>19161967
Bakker is based supreme, he is the owner of the lefties and women

>> No.19162037

>>19161710
It's a good book, man.

>> No.19162087

>>19162037
Not saying it isn't. Just surprised people talked good about it since that almost never happens.

>> No.19162092

>>19162087
It has mommy-milkers in it, people like mommy-milkers

>> No.19162108

>>19162092
That would explain it.

>> No.19162140

>>19158736
Link for the stories?

>> No.19162155

>>19149084
My yandere succubus daughter is mommy-warrior's natural enemy

>> No.19162163

>>19149084
I real more Japanese web novels. And I’m trying to find the two I was reading.

>> No.19162202

>>19149084
I read more western Xianxia. I’m currently reading one that’s Greco-Roman.

>> No.19162207

>>19162202
>Greco-Roman
Virtuous Sons: A Greco Roman Xianxia? I hear that one is good. Been meaning to read more stories on Royal Road.

>> No.19162229

>>19162207
That’s the one. For other stories to read, read Defiance of the Fall, Beware of Chicken, and Saga of the Cosmic Heroes. The last one is written from someone from /lit/.

>> No.19162241

>>19162229
>Defiance of the Fall, Beware of Chicken
I've seen Beware of Chicken being posted hear before, isn't that the one where the author subverts your expectations or something?

>> No.19162244

>>19162241
Eh, it’s more of a slice of life story than anything else.

>> No.19162251

>>19162244
>slice of life story
Really? How did it get so big then if its just a slice of life story?

>> No.19162255

>>19162251
It’s a nice change of pace in other stories, at least that’s my opinion on it.

>> No.19162265

i hate sex scenes

>> No.19162275

>>19162265
Okay? Why are you telling us this?

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>>19162265

>> No.19162284

>>19162265
I like sex scenes that get interrupted.

>> No.19162285

>>19145149
Buy these books:
M.A.G.I. Hunters
Reborn as a Fire Mage!
Mage Assassin
Towers of Acalia
Savage Ascension
Divine Arsenal
Werepanther

>> No.19162286

>>19162275
I feel like it's just me and crazy feminist women that are like this. Everyone else always söyfaces over nudity and sex scenes
Don't want to see the skin
Oh and I'm telling you this because I don't have anyone else to talk to

>> No.19162292

>>19162286
You might just be gay, anon.

>> No.19162296

>>19162285
Would buy them just for the cover alone.

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>>19162296
It's why I recommended them in the first place.

>> No.19162302

>>19162292
I don't like gay sex scenes either. Straight sex is just boring to me, gay sex is outright repulsive

>> No.19162308

>>19162299
I always wondered if these books sell just enough to make a living off them. Or if the market is just that big.

>> No.19162310

>>19162308
Fire mage is #1 in Humorous Graphic Novels (Kindle Store), #1 in Everyday Life Graphic Novels, #2 in Romance Graphic Novels (Kindle Store) and this shit came out like in June 26, 2021. The author is earning money from this.

>> No.19162311

>>19162302
Okay? But why?

>> No.19162315

>>19162310
Also forgot to mentioned that the author also has another series that's a Cultivator story that hovers around in the 100-300 range

>> No.19162316

>>19162299
>>19162310
>>19162315
I should write my own story on this. Seems like a quick way to earn money.

>> No.19162320

>>19162311
Why do I not get aroused by sex scenes? I don't know, maybe porn permanently damaged my brain or maybe I'm being asexual (being asexual is very rare though so I doubt it)

>> No.19162321

New thread
>>19162319

>> No.19162322

>>19162320
>I don't know, maybe porn permanently damaged my brain
I watch porn and Instill get aroused by sex scenes in books.

>> No.19162332

>>19162322
well I don't get aroused by them in movies either so if your implication is that I'm not able to recreate sex scene image in my head as I'm reading it, you're wrong

>> No.19162342

>>19162332
You might be asexual

>> No.19162420

>>19161415
Well cultivation is all about resources, people in higher worlds reach divine sea almost automatically because the energy there (ambient and also in things like ingredients) is just that much more concentrated. Martial world was fun because it actually had a plot and couple plot twists, which most chink shit novels normally do not have.

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>stumbled upon author's Twitter

Now I don't even want to read the rest of the books

>> No.19162926

>>19158135
Not even remotely the same thing

>> No.19162936

>>19159039
lord of the ring

>> No.19163442

>>19158978
Wait, this retard actually watched Mushoku Tensei and gave it a pass cuz “le asians”

HAHAHAHHA HOLY SHIT WHAT A DICK HEAD. We need to seriously stop discussing his stupidity here.