/lit/ Video Games

[Anonymous No.19178480]

Let's discuss /lit/ video games. I really like the dialogue and the other readables that appear in Deus Ex. They remind me of William Gibson's prose -- and not just because the game is somwhat cyber punk like Gibson's novels. Pic related is a quote from the game.

[Anonymous No.19178487]

Disco Elysium is extremely Pynchon-esque and I will always defend it on /lit/

[Anonymous No.19178496]

Deus Ex is a great game

[Anonymous No.19178500]

Fallout New Vegas and all the Soulsborne games are very /lit/.

[࿇ C Œ M G E N V S ࿇ !KNDY/Ar.iI No.19178608]

[Anonymous No.19178612]

Guess the persona series in terms of themes

[Anonymous No.19178618]

>>19178608
A person is not split between playing vidya 24/7 or not playing at all.

[࿇ C Œ M G E N V S ࿇ !KNDY/Ar.iI No.19178636]

>>19178618


WHAT DOES ONE GAIN BY PLAYING VIDEOGAMES? NOTHING; PLAYING VIDEOGAMES IS A TOTAL WASTE OF TIME, AND OF ENERGY: TWO THINGS THAT, AS AN ADULT, ONE CANNOT AFFORD TO SQUANDER.

[Anonymous No.19178676]

>>19178636
Here you go. My canned reply.

[Anonymous No.19178721]

>>19178480
>They remind me of William Gibson's prose -- and not just because the game is somwhat cyber punk like Gibson's novels.
Well that's no surprise, since Sheldon Pacotti (Deus Ex's main writer) repeatedly cites Gibson as his main literary influence in interviews.
In one interview he said his main philosophical influence when writing Deus Ex was Foucault, and I can totally see it in the game's themes. The Morpheus dialogue is very remniscient of Discipline and Punish (and the parts about "worship" remind md of Nietzsche, who Foucault was of course heavily influenced by), and biopower sheds light on the transhumanist commentary with Gunther etc.

[Anonymous No.19178730]

>>19178721
>md
*me

[Anonymous No.19178733]

>>19178636
>WHAT DOES ONE GAIN BY READING LITERATURE? NOTHING; READING LITERATURE IS A TOTAL WASTE OF TIME, AND OF ENERGY: TWO THINGS THAT, AS AN ADULT, ONE CANNOT AFFORD TO SQUANDER.

[Anonymous No.19178767]

Any Spiderweb Software game. Geneforge and Avadon are pure gems.

[Anonymous No.19178773]

>>19178480
To The Moon
Finding Paradise

[Anonymous No.19178781]

>>19178767
My nigger. Just started replaying Geneforge after Jeff dropped his new remake. Great series on many many levels.

[Anonymous No.19178785]

>>19178636
it's no worse than reading Harry Potter etc.

[Anonymous No.19178811]

>>19178721
Also GK Chesterton, I think there's even a few direct extracts of him in the game.

[Anonymous No.19178813]

>>19178500
>Fallout New Vegas
You should play the original Fallout, it's even more /lit/ somehow.

[Anonymous No.19178825]

>>19178811
Yeah, and I think the game is very influenced by Mill as well. Invisible War makes this (as well as Foucault) more explicit with direct quotes. Speaking of which you should all play it; despite its reputation, the writing remains quite good.

[Anonymous No.19178858]

What can change the nature of a man?

[Anonymous No.19178936]

>no mention of Pathologic 2, the most /lit/ games of all time

[Anonymous No.19178943]

This game is exactly what /lit/ would love

[Anonymous No.19178951]

>>19178813
fallout 1 is atmospheric kino, fallout new vegas in some ways didn't hit the same mark, but a great game regardless

[Anonymous No.19178999]

>>19178721
>Well that's no surprise, since Sheldon Pacotti (Deus Ex's main writer) repeatedly cites Gibson as his main literary influence in interviews.
Of course he would for a cyperpunk game.
Just as everyone involved in a scary videogame loves Lovecraft, even if they completely miss his points.

[Anonymous No.19179003]

Dear Esther, though it barely qualifies as game

[Anonymous No.19179010]

>>19178636
Wash your penis

[Anonymous No.19179098]

Bioshock.

“I believe in no God, no invisible man in the sky. But there is something more powerful than each of us, a combination of our efforts, a Great Chain of industry that unites us. But it is only when we struggle in our own interest that the chain pulls society in the right direction. The chain is too powerful and too mysterious for any government to guide. Any man who tells you different either has his hand in your pocket, or a pistol to your neck.”

"I came to this place to build the impossible. You came to rob what you could never build. A Hun, gaping at the gates of Rome. Even the air you breathe is sponged from my account. Well, breathe deep ... so later you might remember the taste."

[Anonymous No.19179105]

Buddhist in its themes, and Gnostic in temperament, this is the game of the decade for me, possibly an all-time GOAT. niggas don't know

[Anonymous No.19179109]

Kentucky route zero

[Anonymous No.19179111]

>>19178480
>tarnish
>fade in time
Absolutely atrocious.

[Anonymous No.19179249]

>>19178480
Gris

[Anonymous No.19179518]

>>19178936
>solved literature
>solved video games
>solved movies
How are Russians so based?

[Anonymous No.19179558]

>>19178487
Fpbp and the first two Fallout ganes as mentioned

[Anonymous No.19179562]

>>19178480
I used to collect books in Skyrim, even downloading mods to get more books. I never downloaded aesthetical mods for them, that's for pseuds

One of the saddest thing was a shelf that got bugged and made me unable to retrieve/rearrange the books

[Anonymous No.19179960]

Friends of Ringo Ishikawa

[Anonymous No.19180002]

>>19179109
Very kino but the story was underwhelming

[Anonymous No.19180021]

>>19178480
Morrowind

[Anonymous No.19180191]

>>19178936
Pathologic 1 is more /lit/, but the problem is that nobody's actually played either. Still incredible games for those who have though.

[Anonymous No.19180194]

>>19179562
Did you read them? Are there any good Skyrim books?

[Anonymous No.19180222]

>>19178636
WHAT DOES ONE GAIN BY BROWSING /LIT/? NOTHING; BROWSING /LIT/ IS A TOTAL WASTE OF TIME, AND OF ENERGY: TWO THINGS THAT, AS AN ADULT, ONE CANNOT AFFORD TO SQUANDER.

[Anonymous No.19180308]

>>19178487
the only /lit/ game

[Anonymous No.19180357]

>>19178487
pseud elysium more like

[Anonymous No.19180389]

>>19180222
trips of truth

[Anonymous No.19180416]

>>19178608
Imagine being an adult and still wasting your time on 4 chan haha

[Anonymous No.19180470]

>>19178721
>writer directly cites gibson
Very cool, didn't know how intentional the influence was.

[Anonymous No.19180521]

The Return of Obra Dinn. You spend the game filling out a book. And its great and /lit/ in other ways too

>>19179558
played all. 3 and NV are better

>>19179098
absolute kino

[Anonymous No.19180562]

>>19178480
The Danganronpa series is very /lit/.

[Anonymous No.19180943]

>>19178487
Fpbp. This is the only modern game I know of that is /lit/. Some of the boomer CRPG's are also pretty /lit/ - planescape torment and fallout in particular.

[Anonymous No.19180950]

The Stanley Parable is postmodern literature.

[Anonymous No.19180951]

>>19178636
pleasure and leisure. 1-2 hours aint shit bruh bruh

[Anonymous No.19181003]

no mention of infocom. what a surprise that all of you are ignorant plebs. you don't even deserve my literary vidyas, though i have at least a dozen, and no, they are not all infocom games, you're all just myopic ijits

[Anonymous No.19181013]

>>19178480
Bloodborne

[Anonymous No.19181019]

>>19181013
oops forgot pic

Also, besides the obvious Lovecraft influence, the lore and item descriptions are /lit/ as well

[Anonymous No.19181064]

>>19178636
Some games have better stories and characters than you think anon

[Anonymous No.19181215]

>>19180521
Fallout 3 is the worst, new vegas was pretty good

[Anonymous No.19181225]

>>19178480
Morrowind involves as much reading and lore as Tolkien but also you can hit shit and make magic spells.

[Anonymous No.19181230]

>>19179105
It's good and artistic but hardly literary, is it?

[Anonymous No.19181275]

>>19181064
It's a very, very small number >>19180943

[Anonymous No.19181325]

>>19178608
>>19178636
k

[Anonymous No.19181358]

>>19180194
You should read the lusty argonian maid

[Anonymous No.19181369]

>>19178608
Cumgenius, this is a very unwise post. We implore you to meditate on the responses to your post, as well as your own thoughts. Perhaps you may become more enlightened when you fully understand why this post indicates a lack of wisdom.

[Anonymous No.19181468]

Video games are not literature

[Anonymous No.19181487]

>>19178487
Everyone I know who likes that game isvan insufferable midwit.

[Anonymous No.19181496]

>>19178487
Everyone I know who likes that game is an insufferable midwit

[Anonymous No.19181531]

>Cumgenius, this is a very unwise post. We implore you to meditate on the responses to your post, as well as your own thoughts. Perhaps you may become more enlightened when you fully understand why this post indicates a lack of wisdom.

[Anonymous No.19181539]

>>19178721
Pacotti also conmpared his work to Pynchon in the game

[Anonymous No.19181560]

>>19179105
>Indiefag Metroidvania #4744f

[Anonymous No.19182193]

>>19181275
it's not really any different from film, but regardless a lot more than fallout 1/2 and planescape and disco elysium are /lit/. those games are all excellent, but there is more
some examples:
>what remains of edith finch
>demon's souls/dark souls/bloodborne (not dark souls 2 or 3)
>night in the woods
and deus ex as OP pointed out

[Anonymous No.19182367]

>>19178487
Nice choice

[Anonymous No.19182369]

>>19178858
Jews

[Anonymous No.19182646]

>>19180194
The adventures of Decemus scotti are great.

[Anonymous No.19182655]

>>19179098
>gets btfo by a retarded thug and a test tube baby

[Anonymous No.19182667]

>>19180222
true

[Anonymous No.19182676]

>>19178480
Silent Hill 2, Dark Souls, and Pathologic 2 are the only game with great stories. There are others which have artistic merit in other areas, but no other games are close in terms of storytelling

[Anonymous No.19182685]

>>19181369
your are becoming more infamous then the shadow you chase

[Anonymous No.19182751]

I've heard suda51 games are pretty /lit/, gonna try this one pretty soon

[Anonymous No.19183047]

https://store.steampowered.com/app/1255460/Space_Station_14/

[Anonymous No.19183256]

>>19178636
something to do while listening to an audiobook. it's pretty comfy

[Anοnymous No.19183394]

>>19178480
I skip all dialogue I encounter in a game.
I'm here to fuck up demons and do cool shit, not read some faggy fanfiction.
Then when I retire to bed I'll pull up the NRSV Bible or maybe some classic scifi and read until I fall asleep.

[Anonymous No.19183851]

>>19178480
Metroid (NES/FDS)

[Anonymous No.19183856]

>>19183851
Weird choice. Seems more of a /tv/ game.

[Anonymous No.19183862]

>>19183394
(You)

[Anonymous No.19183865]

>>19178480
MGS2 is pretty /lit/.

[Anonymous No.19183897]

Do visual novels count as books yet

[Anonymous No.19183959]

>>19178636
I leave /lit/ for a month and come back and this tripfag is still here? Are there any tripfags worse than this one? Why do you feel the need to capitalize every word you type? Is having a tripcode not enough for you?

[Anonymous No.19184548]

>>19181531
Unwise and despicable.

[Anonymous No.19184595]

Basado Cvm Genivs making all the bugmen and soibois seethe.

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[Anonymous No.19184640]

Hotline Miami would be a killer novel

[Anonymous No.19184641]

>>19178480
If you like dialogues, you gotta play both Pathologic 1 and 2. 2 is a remake of 1, but the writing style was changed. I think both games have good writing but I really like the first games in particular, pic related is one of the dialogues.

[Anonymous No.19184671]

gone home
the last of us
crusader kings 2
silent hill
earthbound
star control
syberia
beyond good and evil
myst
zork
dreamweb
bloodnet
out of this world
armed and delerious
sanitarium
grim fandango
bad mojo
tex murphy

[Anonymous No.19184678]

reminder this exists

[Anonymous No.19184682]

I liked Return of the Obra Dinn.

[Anonymous No.19184708]

>>19178480

[Anonymous No.19184766]

>>19180222
Based digitfag

[Anonymous No.19184772]

>>19178480
every time i remember deus ex i get an irrational urge to make a video game even though i haven't even played them in like a decade. i even have the skills to pull something small-scale off (i'm a competent writer, i have a programming background and some art skills) but i just don't give a shit about "gameplay" anymore. i don't want to shoot things or manage my inventory, that shit bores me to tears. i just want interactive storytelling.

is there a market for something that would be almost exclusively elaborate dialogue trees with no gameplay beyond "now go talk to the other guy"? or would i be eaten alive by purists whining that it's not a "real" game? i have no idea what video game culture is like anymore, i haven't even logged into steam in years.

[Anonymous No.19184783]

>>19178608
Based. Take amphetamine and read books. Video games are for manchildren.

[Anonymous No.19184788]

>>19184772
the essential gameplay loop is "monkey press button get reward and incentive to press button again"

[Anonymous No.19184847]

>>19184788
yes, but that's what drove me away from games and that's what i want to avoid. when i was a kid i would click on a character in a game i liked because i was legitimately interested in the fiction and my reward was the intrinsic one of getting to engage with it. then everything turned into achievements and points and all that skinner box bullshit. if that's what "gamers" care about then what's the point of putting effort into writing well for a video game? if it's just filler in between numbers increasing?

[Anonymous No.19184855]

>>19184772
Why not use the Visual Novel format at that point?

[Anonymous No.19184893]

>>19181230
>he hasnt read the lore pearls

>>19181560
No.

[Anonymous No.19184897]

>>19184772
Golden Treasure: The Great Green.

[Anonymous No.19184920]

>>19178636
It's not just about the story/characters/worldbuilding, but also about the actual game mechanics. What variables are there within the game? Take HP for example, what can you do with HP? You can lose it, gain it, recover it, donate it, etc. as a result of player -> player interactions, player -> enemy interactions, enemy -> player interactions, and very rarely enemy -> enemy interactions. What decisions does the player have regarding HP? They can block, they can attack, they can heal, etc. Does the game become more or less interesting with more decisions available to the player? Surely it would be more interesting, but at what point does it become too complicated? What games are able to strike this balance? What games do this well? Why? What makes them good at it? As a player, what do you find satisfying? Why? It's not really something that you can get out of other forms of media.

[Anonymous No.19184923]

>ctrl+f
>nier
wtf bros. NieR: Automata

[Anonymous No.19184929]

>>19184772
Just write a text game

[Anonymous No.19184947]

>>19181064
Name 15

[Anonymous No.19184994]

>>19184855
because they are the opposite of what i like and the opposite of a "literary" game. the potential in video games is to do something with writing you can't do on the page, make it reactive, modular, distribute it around a virtual space etc. visual novels as far as i can tell are just reading for the less literate. you write something extremely formally basic and you feed it to the "player" all chopped up into tiny chunks with a picture of whatever room the protagonist is in and whichever character is speaking. then the anime schoolgirl gets angry so you redundantly communicate the anger by switching the drawing for one where she's obviously mad and so on, as if i the reader was too dumb to grasp that from the way the lines are written. i don't see what the purpose of any of it is beyond helping the illiterate parse the writing and those on the spectrum parse the emotions. i'm not either of those things so i just find it insulting.

[Anonymous No.19185020]

>>19184897
>Three massive open-world areas to explore
>Full combat system with 70+ opponents and dozens of special abilities
>First-person labyrinths to explore, each with its own unique story and treasures
>Dozens of unique artifacts and ancient secrets to discover
so the exact opposite of what i said

[Anonymous No.19185195]

>>19184994
i don't know man. a game always has to have gameplay aside from the story. very few even manage to combine the two. do you mean to integrate them together but also cut out the bullshit annoying gamey stuff while still being a game. or do you mean a visual novel but more advanced.

[Anοnymous No.19186792]

>>19183862
Thanks for the dopamine, bro

[Anonymous No.19187754]

>>19178936

I've finished it, every two days I check for updated about the bachelor getting added, WHEN

Would strongly recommend to all /lit/bros, watch like the first half (to avoid big spoilers) of hbomberguys video on the original to learn what it about
https://youtu.be/FUnTI--SOxQ