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>"modernism is le bad, now look at my very traditional paintings" -Julius Evola

>> No.19181396

>>19180809
modernity =/= modernism

>> No.19181424

>>19180809
evola should have been more active with the fascists. they all thought he was a weirdo

>> No.19181431

wow that's a terrible painting, evolabros got too cocky desu

>> No.19181454

>>19180809
Are the big E's for Evola? This is bad anyone who could paint that is a pseud

>> No.19181472

>>19181454
Life is a celebration, and Evola's part of the confetti

>> No.19181533
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>>19180809
As was the style at the time
he was just riding the tiger bro

>> No.19181557

seems like he thought about going futurist but then 2spooked and did a 180

>> No.19181641

>>19180809
He talked about his early artistic phase in that video interview. He basically saw it as a confused means by which one might transcend the limitations of bourgeois lifestyle. These were done when he was a teenager. I like seeing how much seething Evola is bringing about at this time, tradchads are dominating this board, and it is only going to grow. As the forces of darkness multiply and consolidate their power, the forces of light will also multiply. A metaphysical law.

>> No.19181678

>>19181641
I like Evola, I just found out about his paintings and thought that it did not fit with traditionalism

>> No.19181696

>>19180809
>"Unironically"

>> No.19181716

>>19181454
How can someone write such an awfully-worded post on a board about literature? There's people here that are literally writing at the level of 10 year olds

>> No.19181727

>>19181716
Not him, but you know this is objectively false, eat shit, sophist.

>> No.19181729

>>19181716
Esl

>> No.19181746

>>19181727
I don't like nitpicking grammar but I shouldn't have to read a post for 5 seconds longer than I should just so I can decipher it. It's not as if commas are difficult to use... Oh wait, you don't know how to use them either :giggle:

>>19181729
Yeah maybe, but you should still understand how commas work if you speak a language like Spanish. There's not really much excuse for this, it's just retarded
Not to mention that you might as well put a little bit more effort into your posts (if ESL) to improve your English skills, even if you do struggle.

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>>19181746
>:giggle:

>> No.19181768

>>19181678
>I just found out about his paintings and thought that it did not fit with traditionalism
Modernism is unironically the most traditionalist art movement, half of it is mystic symbolism and the other half violence.

>> No.19181774

>>19181760
>An awkward cough

>> No.19181785

>>19180809
Of course he was an avant-garde artfag twink in his youth then he got his buck broken by Persuasion and Rhetoric after which he contemplated suicide for few years and then he developed self induced schizophrenia to cope with his broken buck.

His avantfag phase was his best phase. Fuck his later /pol/tardation

>> No.19181792

>>19181716
good point

>>19181727
3rd world retard or one of their redditor simps detected

>> No.19181806

>>19181785
Next time just say his racism and sexism and anti-jewishness offend you so we don't have to read all your self-important bullshit

>> No.19181810
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>>19181641
>it is only going to grow.
>As the forces of darkness multiply and consolidate their power, the forces of light will also multiply.
If two things grow in response to one another it's basically an equilibrium. In other words, your shit is going nowhere

>> No.19181814

It shows that Evola was a futurist before he was a traditionalist.

>> No.19181817

>>19181810
I think that was his idea anon

>> No.19181838
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>>19181814
Definitely not futurism

>> No.19181839

>>19181785
>Schizophrenia is to cope
You might be wrong, but you also might not be. But, you probably are.

>> No.19181856

>>19181806
I don't give a shit. Evola called Michelstaedter an Aryan spirit but I don't care. His working class, anti-bourgeois, avant-garde spirit was cool. Today avant-garde has been totally dominated by rich cunts with their expensive art school degrees. We need to bring back this sort of old spirit.

>> No.19181860

>>19180809
This is fake like the sperm quote. Trannies will do anything to discredit Evola.

>> No.19181872

>>19181838
Yeah sure thing genius.

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>>19181872
Are you blind?

>> No.19181885

evola’s traditionalism and critique of modernity is modernist indeed. does this make it less valid. not to me.

>> No.19181896

>>19181839
Yeah, it's cope but an interesting one. My Buck also got broken after reading Michelstaedter and Cioran. I have been thinking about doing some mental magic exercises to wander into the valley of schizophrenia because depression is just gloomy boredom and death meditation. I might get to see some cool shit.

>> No.19181910

>>19181810
Do you feel smart for recognising that I was talking about equilibrium? don't, because your "in other words" is retarded, since going nowhere and growing are not at all the same. As for where the world is going, up to 2030 "fascism" is going to increase, what is happening in australia will come to the rest of the West, and the elites are going to try to implement a "nwo" where everything you do is tracked, the vax passport is the beginning of this but it will extend to carbon and other things. Hundreds of millions of 3rd world retards will be forced into our countries as the 3rd world totally collapses (Western nations will no longer be able to support them, this is already beginning to happen), they will be used as social enforcers for the "elites" against the remaining Westerners who haven't died off and who aren't complying. Probably around 2030 it will all come to an end, possibly because of a catastrophic event like an meteor, sun flair, earthquake or whatever (this may start happening before then), and then there may be centuries of darkness before the dawn of a new golden age. No predictions about the return of Christ / anti-christ although of course it all ties in to this, also AI plays an important role (possibly as the anti-Christ, your computer and the whole system is already "demonic"). Tradchads who go far enough down the rabbit hole will be leaders through these times.

Enjoy your gay anime, stay comfortable, tranny.

>> No.19181913

>>19181860
This is real, the fake sperm quote is pretty obviously fake because whatever midwit wrote it was bad at emulating Evola's writing style.

>> No.19181933

>>19181913
That painting looks like something a child did with clip art. There is no way Evola did it.

>> No.19181934

>>19181883
It even fits the changes they advocated in the usage of language with the flying letters.

I hate Americans so much.

>> No.19181951

>>19181933
Ah, the classic

>Yeah man my 4 years old nephew could do better

>> No.19181957

>>19181910
>Tradchads who go far enough down the rabbit hole will be leaders through these times.
Where's your nomad war machine? Are you a bad enough dude to be Lord Humungus? No you're klacking away on the literature board of an anime porn website about your ressentiment filled fantasies against the high and mighty. You are all the worst traits of christers and marxists rolled into one steaming taco bell bag and run over by a car.

>> No.19181987

>>19180809
this was on the cover of his book on theosophy

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>>19181934
>I hate Americans so much.
vaffanculo
i suoi dipinti non sono dinamici. sono semplicemente astrazioni.
https://www.futurismo.org/manifesto-pittura-futurista/
non capisci l'arte. non capisci il futurismo

>> No.19182015

>>19181996
OK I submit.

>> No.19182021
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>>19181957

>> No.19182028

>>19182015
He is much more DADA than futurist

>> No.19182037

>>19181987
evola was actually a liberal

t. modern day prophet and a genius

>> No.19182042

>>19181957
You seem much more resentful than he does to bh

>> No.19182045

>>19182015
>>19182028
He also said in his interviews his paintings were DADA. Maybe futurists influenced him—they influenced everyone but if he was actually a 'futurist' painter he would have also said so himself and maybe even joined them.

>> No.19182050

>>19180809
Traditionalism was refuted by Engels.

>> No.19182053

>>19182050
how's 9th grade?

>> No.19182055

>>19182053
Cope chud.

>> No.19182056

>>19182037
hitler was a neoliberal

>> No.19182065

>>19182056
>Marxism has no right to disguise itself as socialism. Socialism, unlike Marxism, does not repudiate private property. Unlike Marxism, it involves no negation of personality, and unlike Marxism, it is patriotic. We might have called ourselves the Liberal Party. We chose to call ourselves the National Socialists.

>> No.19182083

>>19182056
marx was a cuck

>> No.19182088

>>19181910
based 2016 post

>> No.19182090

>>19182042
He wants everyone he disagrees with destroyed by... societal collapse over time? So that he can become the new nobility? Do you even know what ressentiment is?

>> No.19182104

>>19182055
see>>19182021

>> No.19182113

>>19182090
You sound like a butthurt tranny, he sounds like he pays attention to the news and follows traditional doctrines of cycles. You're pretty stupid too.

>> No.19182118

>>19182088
2016iggers are never leaving. They're like Visigoths. The best we can hope for is that the next wave of invaders wipes them out root, stem, and branch.

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>>19181957
>its the "christers" fag

>> No.19182133

>>19182113
Let's assume for a minute that he is correct about cycles. Why should he be confident he isn't part of the trash that's getting thrown out? Lots of people are "against" the present time. He sounds like he's autistic and therefore a bad liar, so in all likelihood when the wheel turns and grinds the little people who were living off the old elite, he will have a hard time kissing the new ass royal. Unless of course, he thinks he's the conqueror. In which case, by all means glow as brightly as you can, makes you easier to spot.

>> No.19182135

>>19182088
been here since 2010 unfortunately

>> No.19182139

>>19182118
I may be a 16igger but i make good posts.
I was 15 then how much earlier should i have started posting?

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19182144

>>19182131
You best turn those cheeks boy

>> No.19182159

>>19182133
You are making so many assumptions

>> No.19182167

>>19182159
No I think cyclical time and autism are fair assumptions for the sake of argument

>> No.19182174

>>19182167
You're assuming he thinks he will survive too, which destroys your entire dumb argument. Bye, dummie.

>> No.19182182

>>19182174
Ok so he isn't even planning to survive. It's just nihilism in a dress.

>> No.19182183

In the age of dissolution, aping traditional art, thereby clinging to the regime of residues, is a futile act. There is nothing uglier than a modern museum full of traditional paintings.

>> No.19182189

>>19181641
Your moron, you cretin... as one flows the other ebbs! You have no understanding of the metaphysical dance of light and darkness. It's like tides. Goodness and light is hopeless until the end when the fatal flaw of evil surfaces and the negative defeats itself, and finally a new dawn comes and the cycle shifts.

>> No.19182198

>>19182055
cope

>> No.19182216

>>19182189
>as one flows the other ebbs!
Yes, up to an inflection point, and we are now at that point. You have no more than an entry level understanding apparently, but you tell others they don't know.

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>>19181641
Sir, this is a wendy's

>> No.19182291

>>19182144
>anti-Christ talking about sodomy
nothing out of the ordinary

>> No.19182294

>>19182182
Traditionlism is the complete opposite of nihilism you dimwit

>> No.19182305

>>19181533
This one has better composition. And the shading on the cones and cylinders in the OP pic looks like shit

>> No.19182311

>>19182056
Someone finally understood GR, I see

>> No.19182319

>>19182294
Why? Because you say so? You want society to collapse and take you with it, and that's not nihilism?

>> No.19182323

>>19182294
>Traditionlism is the complete opposite of nihilism you dimwit
Traditionalism is just nihilist cope. It stands in relation to nihilism in the same way that new sincerity stands in relation to post-modernity;.

>> No.19182347

>>19182319
Why don't you actually learn what Traditionalism is instead of just being retarded?

>>19182323
That's your opinion.

>> No.19182370

Traditionalism is unironically a very modernist ideology, though.

>> No.19182379

>>19182347
You can dismiss it as my opnion but both situations are based around people trying to fill an absent center with synthetic notions of "natural" living. Not different from crystal hippies either, now that I think about it.

>> No.19182385

>>19181896
Yeah meditation is pretty based, transcend the cope

>> No.19182419

>>19182347
>grrrr you don't understand traditionalism
Whoever it is I am responding to at this point, if you are capable of following this thread, please note that the defender of traditionalism claimed society would collapse such that people reading the traditionalists would benefit, then when pressed as to why he considered such people among The Elect, said he did not assume he would survive this collapse. It's the same otherworldly nihilism of christers and marxists. They don't care what is left of the actual world after their revolution, just that it gets negated. And if they get negated in the process it does nothing to change their minds. All that matters is that "the cycle" crushes the people he doesn't like in the long run. It's ressentiment plain and simple, fit for slavish little bugmen

>> No.19182429

>>19182379
You are cherry-picking superficial similarities.

>> No.19182436

>>19182429
Oh you mean like your indo-sufi theosophists do?

>> No.19182442

>>19182436
Nope, nothing superficial there.

>> No.19182688

>>19181716
Name some 10-year-old writing for comparison

>> No.19182732

>>19182688
I'm comparing it to my own writing at 10. I suppose that is unfair, seeing as I was tested by a professional as having 99th percentile language abilities for my age (as a 12 year old)

Point still stands that there isn't much of an excuse to be making such poor posts as an adult on a literature board. Minor grammar errors can of course be overlooked, but the sheer amount of incomprehensible nonsense posted here is staggering

I don't really care desu, it's just weird to see. I don't use this board much anyway

>> No.19182908

>>19182347
Making up Qtard tier prophecies for the future is not traditionalism either, fag

>> No.19182934

>>19181716
That's true, but you yourself mistakenly hyphenated 'awfully worded', and you used 'There's' when it should be 'There are' or 'They're' if you wanted to use a more colloquial contraction. Your sin is pretty much equal to his.

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>>19181768
It's almost like there are certain material conditions required for a genuine expression of earlier social modes

>> No.19182977

>>19182934
*there're. I knew I fucked up.

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>>19180809
You just don't get it, do you? My art expresses the chaos of modernity and is therefore good art, since as we all know good art is what expresses the artist's own age and not perennial and universal tru- hmm let me think this one through...

>> No.19184280

>>19181817
not that anon, but if two things are growing proportionally, then none of them is actually overcoming the other, then it's impossible to say that "darkness is growing", since both arte co-dependent, in order for darkness to grow light must at least remain still or even better get smaller

>> No.19184286

>>19182379

this

>> No.19185351

>>19182305
That's a Kandinsky

>> No.19185362

>>19180809
Read Schnapp's "Bad Dada (Evola)" which (despite the title) is a good analysis of Evola's art and to what extent he was a dadaist

>> No.19185373

>>19182953
This makes no sense you marxtard

>> No.19185403

>>19182934
>>19182977
Lol, fucking retard. The point was that some posts are hard to read because people don't know how to use commas. The point about grammatical nitpicking being bad was made more than clear - the issue is people making almost indecipherable posts. I don't want to have to pore over a single-sentence post for longer than I should have because a retard doesn't understand how commas work