book clubs

[Anonymous No.19335585]

does anyone here belong to book clubs?

[Anonymous No.19335597]

I wish to violate Kat.

[Anonymous No.19335634]

No, I just send autistic book monologues to my only online friend. He doesn't read books btw.

[Anonymous No.19335647]

>>19335585
What if the only members were myself and Kat.

[Anonymous No.19335838]

Me, my penis and Kat

[Anonymous No.19335845]

>>19335585
I would read her shit YA books just to smell her hair

[Anonymous No.19335867]

i'm in a book club with my my mum and a bunch of other people from the area, mostly old ladies although there are a couple more my age
i joined like a decade ago when i was living with my parents and we take it in turns to pick a book for everyone to read and discuss and host the evening
it's honestly one of the highlights of the month for me, reading and discussing something in depth with a bunch of people who miraculously aren't idiots is so nice. from other people i've talked to, ours is apparently quite rare in everyone actually reading all the books and bringing something to the table

[Anonymous No.19335879]

>>19335867
i would join something like that but it doesn't exist in my area
they didn't even have a book club at my university and I went to the biggest one in the country. complete joke

[Anonymous No.19336566]

i guess sort of. i help run a Dante reading group. Mostly self taught we started with reading the comedia but have since moved on to reading various supplementary books and commentaries so that we've branched into medieval philosophy in general

[Anonymous No.19336777]

>>19335585
What are those?

[Anonymous No.19336886]

>>19335585
Never, but I wish I did. Problem is that most reading groups around me are either hyperleftist that see everything through the lens of some critical theory, business types that read whatever the latest self-help book got released, or right-wing groups full of schizos.

[Anonymous No.19337573]

>>19335879
same here. No book club in university or in my city in general. Only one for immigrants lol

[Anonymous No.19337577]

>>19336886
last one sounds based

[Anonymous No.19337621]

>>19335585
Maybe, is /lit/ a book club?

[Anonymous No.19337683]

Every in person book club where I live is just 60 year old men who never started families of their own or got abandoned by them
I wish I had book clubs like in USA where it's just single girls looking forward to hooking up
Every day on /adv/ there's people reccomending them for finding girlfriends and I can't because there are no young girls at book clubs here. Just old miserable fucks.

[Anonymous No.19337733]

The one and only, naturally.

[Anonymous No.19337798]

>>19337621
We could organize one. Pick a book, make a general, and start discussing/commenting it?

[Anonymous No.19337816]

>>19337798
would there really be in depth discussion?
I'm down though.

I feel like these things usually fail because threads get drowned out. You'd almost need a set date and post schedule so that anons know when to expect the thread.

[Anonymous No.19337826]

>>19337733
Based

[Anonymous No.19338118]

>>19335585
Books clubs are dominated by women.

[Anonymous No.19338721]

>>19337733
Facts

[Anonymous No.19338824]

>>19337798
I'd love to be in, but it's probably going to be shit or we're going to choose Moby Dick 7 times in a row or something. I rather keep doing my thing

[Anonymous No.19338927]

>>19335879
>no book clubs
Are you 100% that’s correct? Boomer book clubs are not something you can google, you gotta call/hang out at a local library or speak to someone in the English department

[Anonymous No.19338932]

>>19337816
As much as I hate to admit it making a discord for it is probably the way to go

[Anonymous No.19338958]

>>19337733
For the coomers

[Anonymous No.19338996]

>>19338932
Fuck you normies I hope butters joins your discord

[Anonymous No.19339065]

>>19335585
Yea we just did Green
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0MzFgsIByv0

[Anonymous No.19339090]

Will this get me a gf?

[Anonymous No.19339246]

>>19338996
Discord servers don't HAVE to be nightmares.

[Anonymous No.19339261]

>>19335585
I don't know what it is about PBD but she makes me absolutely diamonds. Lovely plain girl-next-door look. Would wife.

[Anonymous No.19339268]

I live in a small town so the book club only is populated by elderly women talking about Romance novels and Thrillers. I would still join if I felt like I could belong there, but the gap is likely too large.

[Anonymous No.19339289]

>>19338996
It could be a listserv for all I care, the difficulty with groups is just the selection criteria and losers joining. Discord is just a tool

[Anonymous No.19339305]

>>19338958
>accidentally went into one of the 'women only' carriages when i was in japan
kek good times

[Anonymous No.19339318]

>>19335585
someone post it

[Anonymous No.19339345]

>>19339318
nigger

[Anonymous No.19339429]

>>19339268
Go for the memes.

[Anonymous No.19339469]

>>19337798
I thought Lit did this with Gravity's rainbow a few months back? Idk I wasn't apart of it because i was busy reading other stuff, but it's happened before. Don't let your memes be dreams, anon

[Anonymous No.19339478]

>>19339469
It used to happen somewhat regularly 4 or 5 years ago. I remember reading Monte Cristo with a bunch of anons in 2016. I think if the book is relatively short and the discussion is kept fairly unstructured it could work quite well, assuming enough anons actually bother to pick up the book.

[Anonymous No.19340433]

>>19335867
This sounds lovely. I’m glad for you.

[Anonymous No.19341116]

>>19339469
I’m sad I didn’t participate in the GR reading, it looked like anons were having a lot of fun

[Anonymous No.19341221]

>>19341116
you could always instigate another one fren :)

[Anonymous No.19341372]

>>19335585
I am in one but only at my 3rd book right now so i only went to 2 meetings. Both of which were a lot of fun even though i'm mostly awkward as hell.

As this anon says >>19335867 . It's mostly older ladies but even then immensely fun to just discuss a book everyone read. It is fun to hear how others have perceived a book and then maybe change your own perspective on the book or see how both your differing perspectives line up.

I'm also the youngest in my bookclub (~20) from what I can estimate most people were in their 30's. And most books we read are modern novels that generally focus on feminine narritives e.g. motherhood. That isn't a complete problem for me because it shows me a side of books I would probably never touch in my life otherwise.

Oh right as final note. In my first meeting at that bookclub I was talking to this guy that was around my age and it seemed like some of these e/lit/ist tards brainwashed this kid or that he is one of those people. Which was interesting to see in person to say the least

[Anonymous No.19341406]

Why would any true reader sacrifice reading (a private experience) for book clubbing (a social experience). To show off? At least on /lit/ I get to call people niggers and retards.

[Anonymous No.19341438]

>>19341406
it's to talk to other people about books because its fun and want to share the joy

[Anonymous No.19341448]

what are book clubs like for smut books?

[Anonymous No.19341452]

>>19339318

[Salaried Janitor No.19342078]

The World's Foremost Literary Society's Foremost Appendage is always happy to take in new members. 75% discord shitposting, 25% valuable /lit/ conversations. NSFW posts are quarantined and discord trannies receive no quarter. Join if you so please.

Automatic invite: https://www.goodreads.com/group/invite/1145736-neo--lit?invite_token=Yzk1MTg0ZDctYmNjYy00OTdiLWI1OGEtNzEyYTRlMzdhMWJi&utm_medium=email&utm_source=copypastegroup.

[Anonymous No.19342585]

>>19341452
Anyone still got the pic of her sister groping Kat's ass while they hug?

[Anonymous No.19342616]

holy YIKES this thread is just teeming with incels huh?

[Anonymous No.19342620]

>>19342616
There is nothing wrong with light simping.

[Anonymous No.19342641]

>>19342585

[Anonymous No.19342650]

>>19335585
I'm running my uni's literature club. Covid fucking wrecked us and after a year and a half of zoom meetings, it was pretty much gone.
There are new people interested, including two guys with a lot of potential. One who I can just tell he's a based deus vult sperg, and another who when I asked what he likes to read, listed a dozen Russian authors, and Russians alone.
That guy said he wanted to read next either The Gulag Archipelago, or Pride and Prejudice. Hope he didn't say the latter just to not sound weird, as I picked it to read next; we need some girls in the club too.

[Anonymous No.19342657]

>>19342641
Absolute wife tier. Brown hair blue eyes pale skin is the best combination.

[Anonymous No.19342726]

wasn't there a blacked/porn video of her somewhere?

[Anonymous No.19342729]

>>19342641
left is way more attractive damn

[Anonymous No.19342908]

>>19342726
there is a sex tape of her

[Anonymous No.19342921]

>>19342726
>>19342908
NO! It was a still of an OF model who looked vaguely like her in one photo. It's not Kat.

[Anonymous No.19342938]

>>19342078
I will join if you let me write down in my CV that I was one of the editors.

[Anonymous No.19343200]

>>19342921
>>19342641
does she have a bf?

[« Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ » !!bGBGaUpA8kS No.19343218]

>>19342641
She sure likes her sister’s ass

[Anonymous No.19343224]

>>19342938
>Why yes, I am an unpaid moderator of a goodreads/discord book club.

[Anonymous No.19343249]

>>19343224
>a Co-editor for the Unauthorized Critical Edition with Annotations and Commentary of Moby Dick - for the World's Foremost Literary Society
doesn't it sound cool on paper? I need a new job, you know how it is.

[Anonymous No.19343259]

>>19343218
I do too :)

[Anonymous No.19343278]

>>19335585
Many years ago, I was in a book club here in the UK.
When it was my second turn to choose what we all read I chose this, after my first choice John Wyndham's 'The Kraken Wakes' had gone down rather well.
It's an excellent, but challenging, apocalyptic sci-fi novel written in the early 1970s.
Everyone was initially pleased as one of the previous books that was well-received by the group had been 'War of the Worlds' by HG Wells, but after they'd read my choice and we met, I was asked to leave.

[Anonymous No.19343316]

>>19339261
Less intimidating than Stacies. Thats why youre more attracted to them

[Anonymous No.19343843]

I think she's cute but she has such a terrible taste in literature.

[Anonymous No.19343867]

>>19342641
I came.

[Anonymous No.19343872]

do zoomerettes fug their sisters?

[Anonymous No.19343883]

>>19343843
I can fix her.

[Anonymous No.19343948]

Me and a friend started one in college only the fuck girls. It worked.

[Anonymous No.19344103]

>>19343843
>>19343883
>Reads shitty YA and makes YouTube videos
vs
>Addicted to social media and casual sex
Lesser or two evils.

[Anonymous No.19344157]

>>19335634
based and same

[Anonymous No.19344174]

>>19335585
I'd like to be in a book club but I don't wanna read shit books that other people suggest, life is too short for books I don't like.

[Anonymous No.19344183]

>>19344174
for me, having to read books i wouldn't normally read myself is one of the chief benefits of being in a book group. sometimes i hate them, but sometimes i end up discovering something i love i would never have encountered otherwise. and it's interesting to get other people's perspectives on the things i don't normally read and see why other people read other types of books, and occasionally widen my horizons as a result

[Anonymous No.19344197]

>>19343218
Dakota is so beautiful

[Anonymous No.19344207]

HELLO WHERE DO I FIND BOOK CLUB???

[Anonymous No.19344299]

Yeah I'm in a Ballard one with a couple of friends and we hold meetings at weird places like hidden pool halls and drag race tracks.

The other is just me my gf and her friend reading poetry, plays and essays.

[Anonymous No.19344331]

>>19344197
who is she

[Anonymous No.19344365]

>>19344331
Dakota Warren
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC505hkZmukH32DjoqkPA8UQ

[Anonymous No.19344389]

>>19344365
Thanks. She is indeed beautiful.

[Anonymous No.19344395]

>>19344365
anyone got the pic where you can see her panties?

[Anonymous No.19344453]

>>19341372
Sounds cool, makes me want to join a book club now. Care to share more about that irl elitist?

[Anonymous No.19344473]

>>19342650
Did you found the club as well? How did you go about doing it, did you ask around until you had a couple of guaranteed friends and then started posting flyers or what? Any pros and cons about book clubs that you didn't expect?

[Anonymous No.19344536]

>>19344473
I didn't found it, though I joined when back when it was being founded. They were a group of friends, almost all gone now.
Most of the trouble setting it up had to do with the students' association, so it's going to be entirely different for anyone else. Technically we're entitled to some support, though we didn't see anything from the students' association back then. Now though, they have a room for the clubs and we're going to have our meetings there, so that's nice. No food or drinks, and need to reserve the room first though.
The most complicated part is dedicing on times and dates. If it's too early lots of people have classes, if it's too late everyone already went home. You can't please everybody.
Engagement in general is really hard, but that's with all clubs. Even the people who show up hardly ever reads the books.

[Anonymous No.19344630]

>>19339305
lol yeah me too. didn't consider different city's would have different women only schedules

[Anonymous No.19344686]

>>19335585
I hosted a book club once, it was a waste of time. Don't do it.

[Anonymous No.19344753]

goodreads book clubs count r-right?

[Anonymous No.19344768]

>>19341406
Human beings are social creatures. Literature itself is a form of communication.

[Anonymous No.19344970]

>>19344453
I've only spoken to him the one time 'cause he didn't attend the latest one but basically.

Basically he was very interested in religion but wasn't religious himself. He had read a lot about religion in the west and was busy increasing his knowledge about the eastern religions.

Besides that when I talked about my plan to start reading some dostoevsky he started talking about his interest in right wing literature and how he was quite interested in it himself. When it went towards right wing politics I quickly steered into some other topic I can't completely remember anymore solely for my fear that the conversation would go down some weird rabbit hole where i couldn't end the conversation anymore.

That's all maybe i'll have more in the future. Defs check out a book club its good fun ^_^

[Anonymous No.19345164]

>>19344395
Just go to her tiktok (sp3llb00k). It's the one where she's doing makeup. It's maybe the 10th or 15th video down from the top. She also posted on recently where you can see up her skirt, but the text in the lower left is blocking the view :(

[Anonymous No.19345248]

im thinking of joining a university book club im new to reading as a hobby so it could be a good way to expand my horizons

[Anonymous No.19345362]

>>19335585
>GAWK GAWK GAWK CHGRUHHH
>there. Keep it there
>GASP. GLURGH GLURGH-- chh
>almost there, baby
>GLUCCH GLRRRGH GRLMMPHHH
>is that too much?
>GLUGG URRGHH
>tell me
>no no no. Uh huh, GLUCK GLUCK GRURK

This is me throatfucking OP's pic, btw

[Anonymous No.19345483]

>>19345362
Impossible, pics don't speak.

[Anonymous No.19345978]

>>19342078
>Discord
Yeah, i bet half of you are "women" too

[Anonymous No.19346624]

>>19344536
>>19344970
Thanks for sharing, anons.

[Anonymous No.19347355]

>>19345978
There are a few women. No "women" afaik, though I'm not vetting. I'm not trying to see you here, bud. All I can say is that any typical "discord" shenanigans result in a ban. Fortunately there have only been a handful of such cases in ~8 months.

[Anonymous No.19348541]

>>19343218

[Anonymous No.19348781]

>>19335867
you're lucky, there are some good picks in there. my wife is in a book club and most of the picks are irredeemable trash. but i'm pretty sure they don't read or discuss most of the books anyway and probably just get drunk and complain about their husbands.

[Anonymous No.19348828]

>>19335634
>online
>friend
pick one

[Anonymous No.19348829]

>>19345362
Fucking kek

[Anonymous No.19348842]

>>19343218
>The trouble with being born
If being born is such a trouble, why don't you fucking kill yourself? This philosopher is for low life loser scum. Get a fucking rope and do it

[Anonymous No.19348854]

>>19343883
woah those are some pink tootsies

[Anonymous No.19348873]

>>19337577
t. 15 years old

[Anonymous No.19348891]

>>19348842

[Anonymous No.19348918]

>>19348891
Nice deflection. That anon is unironically correct

[Anonymous No.19348925]

>>19348918
>>19348842
Samefag and I'm going to guess fake Christian also.

[Anonymous No.19349182]

>>19343883
gross

[Anonymous No.19349355]

Does she want a /lit/ bf?

[Anonymous No.19349378]

>>19349355
kat is my bfgf

[Anonymous No.19349645]

>>19348925
Not samefag, and no I am just not a pathetic retard. I affirm life

[Anonymous No.19349667]

>>19349645
If that was the case you wouldn't be encouraging people to kill themselves you chinless four eyed faggot.

[Anonymous No.19349680]

>>19348781
yeah i consider myself so blessed that our sessions actually are all about discussing the book. it starts with whoever picked it talking about why and what they like about it etc, then we take turns saying what we thought, then we have a nice freeflowing discussing that naturally comes from that. it's usually a couple of hours
occasionally people end up talking about their own lives towards the end which i really don't care about but for the most part it actually is just a big nice discussion about a book with a bunch of people who like reading good books
people don't show up to the meet if they haven't read the book. for example barbara skipped satantango because she couldn't get past the cat killing lol

[Anonymous No.19349688]

>>19335585
that's a male

[Anonymous No.19349768]

>>19349680
>for example barbara skipped satantango because she couldn't get past the cat killing lol

lol

I've seen you post about your book club before. you are very lucky.

[Anonymous No.19349776]

>>19342078
I joined this club before and all the posts were old and there was nothing interesting in it. Is it really a discord group rather than a goodreads group?

[Anonymous No.19349806]

>>19349768
yeah i bring it up every few months when i've had too much to drink and there's a relevant conversation. i try and not spam it too much lol

[Anonymous No.19349981]

Yes, I was the one to get my club to read fiction every once in a while. I enjoy it, mosy of the guys are around my age but some are a bit older. We don't meet up and read or anything retarded like that, if we do meet up IRL it's to talk a bit about what we're all reading for a bit and drink and shoot the shit. It's kind of a drinking/social club but we emphasize books to deter stupid people.

[Anonymous No.19350171]

>>19349806
Yeah but you've been doing this for 3 years or more and always with the same image. You really want me to believe your book club has had the same reading schedule for over 3 fucking years??

[Anonymous No.19350212]

this thread has gone way off topic. can we please get back to Katposting?

[Anonymous No.19350367]

>>19350171
it's longer that that lol. there are always more books. we read a new one every 4 -6 weeks
ftr the next one is manservant and maidservant which is my choice which we are gonna read towards the end of this month. i strongly suspect some people are gonna hate it but i gotta share this strange fucking lady with everyone in the hope someone else is into it and just to hear why everyone else hates it so much
my goal is to to get everyone to read something they haven't read before, that isn't like something they've read before, that i think has worth. not necessarily something they'll like

[Anonymous No.19350386]

>>19350367
here i added the read date column for transparency because this is important

[Anonymous No.19350575]

>>19350386
Lol you know someone named Angus. And he's in a book club. And he got you guys to read At Swim, Two Boys. And his name is Angus.

[Anonymous No.19350639]

>>19350212
Bella
I want a kat bookworm gf

[Anonymous No.19350993]

>>19335585
>>19341452
>>19342641
Looks underage

[Anonymous No.19351571]

>>19341406
>Gen 2:19 KJV
The LORD God also said, “It is not good for the man to be alone.

[Anonymous No.19351769]

>>19348925
Other anon, not samefagging. Yet another deflection kek the absolute state of reddit DX nihilists

[Anonymous No.19351917]

>>19349776
its some Thiel bullshit

[Anonymous No.19352456]

>>19350575
Angus is such a fucking bro and at swim two boys was amazing. it's a great example of why book group is amazing, I'd likely have never read it otherwise.

[Anonymous No.19353669]

>>19343200
not like you have a chance

[Anonymous No.19353688]

>>19350993
I was born in 1999 actually

[Anonymous No.19353691]

>>19342921
Keep crying, pathetic simp

[Anonymous No.19353749]

>>19344753
Any good ones?

[Anonymous No.19354441]

>>19353669
t. FBI agent hoping to trigger anons

[Anonymous No.19354936]

>anon, your books are problematic and I'm breaking up with you

[Anonymous No.19354951]

>>19354936

[Anonymous No.19356202]

>>19354951
Do you actually think this? Violent much?

[Anonymous No.19356231]

>>19356202

[Anonymous No.19356392]

>>19348541
every time i see
>her
pictures, i can tell the smell is quite pungent indeed
when i see butters tripfag i often think to myself 'oh my, stinker posted again!'

[Anonymous No.19356800]

>>19356392
she also once told me she has hairy legs in some thread and I can presume hairy everything so I imagine she does indeed smell quite pungent

[Anonymous No.19357301]

>>19339261
please tell me who this is. why are you all referring to her by acronyms when i cant reverse image search her

[Anonymous No.19357316]

>>19357301
paperbackdreams on YouTube

[« Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ » !!bGBGaUpA8kS No.19357329]

>>19356800
Hair doesn’t emanate a scent. I keep clean, vulgar little boys.

[Anonymous No.19357344]

>>19357329
>old enough to be my mom

[Anonymous No.19357346]

>>19341452
>>19342585
Isn't there a picture of her being railed floating around, it might have been fake but it looks convincing?

[« Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ » !!bGBGaUpA8kS No.19357356]

>>19357346
Just a lookalike

[Anonymous No.19357494]

>>19357356

[Anonymous No.19358107]

What kinda dudes do you'll she's into?

[Anonymous No.19359245]

>>19341452
post more feet

[Anonymous No.19359260]

>>19357356
Why do you simps insist that it’s a lookalike when you can’t even find the alleged lookalike. Delusional retards

[« Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ » !!bGBGaUpA8kS No.19359394]

>>19359260
Cuz it doesn’t look like her.
Not a simp

[Anonymous No.19359397]

>>19359394
It really does, you mongoloid

[Anonymous No.19359479]

>>19335585
Currently have a book club with my brother and some friends. Fairly casual, we take turns suggesting one book to read a month, gather for beers and/food when we can and discuss the book we chose. The rules are simple: each person gets their turn to pick a book. It must be a book no-one has read before, not even the person picking it. For longer books we might read it over 2 months and discuss the halfway point; we're all fairly quick readers so it doesn't take us long to read through books.
It's nice because we all have different tastes, and there are books I've read that I would never have picked up in a million years that I found surprisingly enjoyable. Sometimes the discussion is shitting all over the book (you don't always know you're about to read a trash book), sometimes its some really deep discussions, sometimes its fluff discussions. It's weird but sometimes the deepest discussions come out of the simplest books.
It also keeps me on my reading game: I don't slack off reading, and I find I read a lot more with book-club forced reading: After reading the book club book, I will inevitably pick up another book I've been meaning to read and read that since I'm not in "book-reading mode". 10/10, good way to get to know people better too, or at least how they think about the world.

[Anonymous No.19359489]

>>19359479
>It also keeps me on my reading game: I don't slack off reading, and I find I read a lot more with book-club forced reading: After reading the book club book, I will inevitably pick up another book I've been meaning to read and read that since I'm not in "book-reading mode"
I had a stroke. I meant since I am in book reading mode.

[Anonymous No.19360356]

https://www.instagram.com/p/CTI07FkFwf2/

Stoned bathing with Katie.

BOTTOM TEXT

[Anonymous No.19361332]

>>19335867
I envy you so much,bro....I can barely say good morning to my mom but that's my own personal demons

[Anonymous No.19362733]

>>19360356
did this once. almost drowned while nutting as my head went underwater

[Anonymous No.19362952]

>>19335585
no one. because everyone here is a pseud.

[Anonymous No.19362961]

>>19341452
Someone please post the youtube comment

[Anonymous No.19362968]

>>19362961
she is seething

[Anonymous No.19362980]

>>19360356
Oh, Katie! Isnt she /lit/'s village whore?

[« Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ » !!bGBGaUpA8kS No.19362990]

>>19362980
Nude modeling

[Anonymous No.19363134]

>>19342078
LET ME IN

[Anonymous No.19363143]

>>19361332
same

[Anonymous No.19363378]

I'm in a Philosophy reading group which is basically a book club I guess except there were at least 4 women who came to our introductory meetings and all 4 of them left and never came back after we started actually discussing the book. I don't know what it is, we were very welcoming.

[Anonymous No.19363386]

>>19350212
nah, she looks like freaking quasimodo

[Anonymous No.19363576]

[Anonymous No.19363586]

>>19342641
Sister has a beautiful face, but her hair doesn't suits her at all.

[Salaried Janitor No.19363691]

>>19349776
Yes it is primarily a discord-based group now. I initially intended it to be goodreads only but, as you may know, goodreads' forum capabilities are severely lacking.
>>19363134
YOU'RE IN

[Anonymous No.19364398]

Come to our occult/spiritual server, there's a literature channel where you can organize book clubs
discord gg YUQscaYnkm

[Anonymous No.19364430]

>>19364398
lmfao

[Anonymous No.19364432]

test

[Anonymous No.19364437]

>>19364398
what is Operation Gladio?

[Anonymous No.19364943]

>>19335867
Sounds nice anon, happy for you
I got curious actually, reading your list. How was Alias Grace? GF wants me to read it along with her

[Anonymous No.19365008]

>>19337798
>>19337816
Make a couple generals before actually starting reading maybe