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What do you think of superior Eastern story structure?

>> No.19515222
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19515222

Better than the western story structure.

>> No.19515230

twists are almost always used to make up for a lack of skill.

>> No.19515234

Isn’t that how your average story works? It's not something exclusive to the east.

>> No.19515242

Ten is not "twist" it's not like a twilight zone episode

>> No.19515245

>>19515234
No, this is different.

The Aristotelian structure is Setup, rising action, climax, falling action, end. It's focused on a singular event. Kishotenketsu is different. Rather, you introduce some order, show how life proceeds in that order, !!chaos!! is introduced, establishment of a new order, demonstrate how life proceeds under the new order.

The Aristotelian structure not only focuses on a single event, whose completion wraps up all ill in the world, but also actually ends. The end is the end, there's nothing interesting that ever happens again, it's done. In Kishotenketsu, however, it's explicitly stated that not only does the story continue, but also that the new order has its own problems inherent to it, it's just a different order from the first.

>> No.19515304

>>19515245
You're just overthinking about it in the abstract lol
Go actually read something and you'll realize it's same shit lmao

>> No.19515321

>>19515245
>you introduce some order (introduction), show how life proceeds in that order (rising action), !!chaos!! is introduced (climax), establishment of a new order(falling action), demonstrate how life proceeds under the new order.(end)

wow, so different

>> No.19515469

>>19515245
>The Aristotelian structure is Setup, rising action, climax, falling action, end. It's focused on a singular event. Kishotenketsu is different. Rather, you introduce some order, show how life proceeds in that order, !!chaos!! is introduced, establishment of a new order, demonstrate how life proceeds under the new order.
Read what you wrote and you'll realize (if you have more than a single brain cell) that they are fundamentally the same

>> No.19515517

>>19515245
Just about every western novel has that sort of structure. Hence the epilogue, which is often the beginning of the next order after the first order falls apart during the climax and falling action.

>> No.19515565

>>19515220
seems interesting, finna try it out

>> No.19516301

>>19515220
You shouldn't limit storytelling to confined definitions of plot lines and storyboards. Just write the damn thing, and it works or it doesn't.

>> No.19516332

M Night Shamalam

>> No.19516388

I'm so fucking tired of conventional story structure. I blame Hollywood. Just write nigga.

>> No.19516788

>>19515220
>do something
>discover that you didn't know that the explanation is something different
>but it's ok, now you know
that is just the author abusing characters (and possibly readers)
in the West stories actually have a stake, or in the worst case they offer a great adventure
in comparison, Eastern stories are just reeeeeeeeeeeeeeally watered down philosophy
it's almost as if in the East, nobody wants to assume responsibility

>> No.19516889

>>19515245
pseud

>> No.19516925

>>19515245
weeb cope

>> No.19517059

>>19515469
See >>19515245

>>19515517
See >>19515245.

Just because you want everyone to be bland and homogeneous doesn't mean that they actually are. There are innate differences in people and cultures, and the results of their lives differ.