/lit/ - Literature

[Anonymous No.19561199]

book list on occultism/esotericism/gnosticism/alchemy/vril/etc?

[Anonymous No.19561225]

>>19561199
chemistry textbook

[Anonymous No.19561463]

>>19561225
thinking alchemy is proto-chemistry is midwit tier, mate. lead to gold is a metaphor.

[Anonymous No.19561563]

it's easy as shit to collect occult titles

what's worth perusing is GOOD occult books, which are much rarer

[Anonymous No.19561590]

>>19561463
thinking lead to gold is a metaphor is midwit tier, mate.

[Anonymous No.19561629]

[Anonymous No.19561632]

>>19561590
Cope and seethe

[Anonymous No.19561641]

>>19561590
actually the two are possible, internal and external alchemy (internal being superior because it deals with the immaterial)
see >>19561629

[Anonymous No.19561653]

Don't read this childish stuff. Occultists are fools who believe in magic, astrology etc

[Anonymous No.19561686]

>>19561199
Hegel was a 10th degree black magician

[Anonymous No.19561689]

>>19561686
This book puts into words what mystics say cannot be put into words.

[Anonymous No.19561716]

>>19561590
Name me one mainstream book on alchemy that doesn't claim it's a precursor to chemistry or gives a Jungian interpretation.

[Anonymous No.19561730]

>>19561716

[Anonymous No.19561758]

>>19561730
Never heard of it.

[Anonymous No.19561762]

>>19561758
of course you didn't that why it's occult

[Anonymous No.19561766]

>>19561199
http://www.occult-mysteries.org/books.html
>alchemy
http://www.occult-mysteries.org/alchemy.html
Their article on alchemy has good books listed and past alchemists worth studying. Just scroll to the bottom.

[Anonymous No.19561769]

>>19561563
well that's why i made this thread on /lit/ m8

[Anonymous No.19561770]

>>19561716
>mainstream
Lol

[Anonymous No.19561775]

>>19561770
He did say midwit though.

[Anonymous No.19561779]

>>19561769
wew

[Anonymous No.19561781]

>>19561653

[Anonymous No.19561805]

>>19561781
I tried to read Magick in Theory and Practice when I was 15 and got filtered hard. Still don’t really know what it means but I think it’s possible.

[Anonymous No.19561813]

>>19561716
harry potter

[Anonymous No.19561917]

>>19561813
Nicholas Flamel was an actual alchemist, but the Philosopher's Stone in the book is used to literally make an elixir of immortality and literally transmute lead into gold.

[Anonymous No.19562046]

>>19561199
Do gnostics ever consider forgiving the Demiurge for trying to be his own papa? I mean he's kinda like our own parents imperfect beings creating others out of wanting to create the beauty (and badness) of life. We can be good or bad, for sure suffer but we more often than not forgive our parents for it and even love them.
What kinda parenting style analogy is the demiurge?

[Anonymous No.19562073]

>>19561917
but harry potter's magic and alchemy is based on classical pre-frued metaphysics and is not pre-science

[Anonymous No.19562089]

>>19562073
How? It's magic is shooting fireballs out of my anus D&D tier.

[Anonymous No.19562383]

>>19561199
Check the sticky newfag

[Anonymous No.19562385]

>>19562383
>Rumi
>Coleman Barks
Fucking dropped.

[Anonymous No.19563472]

>>19561199
For Alchemy in specific? Your best couple entry points are Alchemy and Mystics by Roob, the Mytho-Hermetic Dictionary, and Meditations on the Tarot. The first two are reference dictionaries; one visual while the other is textual, Meditations on the Tarot is the best book I could give on getting into Western Esotericism the correct way. Those books will provide further names and works to look into.
A Suggestive Inquiry Into The Hermetic Mystery by Anne Atwood is an extensive alchemical text that takes decoding, and is a good test of skill

[Anonymous No.19564227]

>>19561199
For the amount of knowledge and research that has been done and is available on this stuff, at this point there should be someone that would have superpowers on earth right now. But there isn't. Those who try fail and most other people don't try at all. Either the seekers aren't trying hard enough, or it's all a lie.

[Anonymous No.19564584]

>>19561716
Lawrence Principe has spent decades complexifying this relation. The alchemy=protochemistry conflation is universally seen as a modernist misunderstanding these days. Assuming you are writing in good faith and are actually curious, which is almost certainly not the case, you might also check out Wouter Hanegraaf's treatment of the historiography of alchemy in his Esotericism and the Academy

[Anonymous No.19565453]

>>19561199
>>19561225
>>19561463
>>19561563
>>19561590
Start with the redditors

[Anonymous No.19565466]

>>19564227
>But there isn't.
Lol. Not that allknowing youfag know of.

[Anonymous No.19566565]

>>19565453
>>19561463
all alchemy has been completed by the natural sciences anyone who disagrees has been influenced by angled occult peddlers and has not read the foundational fathers of alchemy whose aims clearly parallel the natural sciences

[Anonymous No.19566618]

>>19562046
we shouldn't even have parents, good or bad. we should be one with the plenum.

[Anonymous No.19566631]

>>19566565
>either didn't read or didn't understand what he's responding to

[Anonymous No.19566638]

>>19562089
this is going to sound rude, but I'm asking this seriously and somewhat well meaningly. did you not read the books or are you an illiterate?

[Anonymous No.19566823]

Do you know any good academic books on the occult or demonology? Scientific studies that analyze pregnancy, development, background, etc.
Or the reference manuals within those fields for users of those subjects.

[Anonymous No.19566856]

>>19566638
cont.

inb4 ">imagine getting this butthurt" I don't love the books but I did read them and understand them. the books aren't deep, but I don't require children's fiction to be Ye High Lit and didn't when I was thirteen either.

the magic in HP is repeatedly implied to operate on classical and adjacent metaphysics and pointedly does not make sense physically. Throughout the book wizards are shown to have existed alongside real styled life British people with their various technolgies, wizard metaphysics and muggle physics, occasionally borrowing ideas from each other, but being crafts totally and at times cannot even exist in the same space. The potions are made out of symbolism and numerology, clearly not chemical, scoffing at physical cause-and-effect and law of conservation of mass alike but being able to turn people into werecats, while the wand work is explicitly Plutonic metaphysics, adding or subtracting adjectives from the target until the desired effect is reached, and its heritable transmogrification (vampirism, lycanthropy, the shit that made acromantula big, house elf shit) are similar to wand work in that they are conceptual as they operate on a blood curse logic instead of physical pathogens or sensible genetics (it sometimes works based on what JK Rowling thinks genetics is, but while she wrote the books her understanding of genetics was ignorant and loaded with magical beliefs, so it's not actually out of place in her novels, and anyway it doesn't often work "genetically" it's usually intentionally abstract). Magic is not "poorly understood old world science" in these novels it's explicitly abstract.

Throughout the book, Freud is nodded at, often with cheek, but not incorporated into the magic system, beyond the wand cores and... uh... the dementors and depression metaphors, but it's not in the magic it's just the author taking the piss. Jung is similar but references less, you could compare the way animal totems and the colors/effects of wandwork seem to vary in order to allow the author to parallel the spell to the character of the caster via word choice association to Jung's imago thing. But the references to his work, if there are any, still isn't in the setting.

If you feel you require more onus of proof from me, please read the fucking books or any of the unfortunately countless wikis sucking JK Rowling's dick please.


anyway suggesting Harry Potter as a book on alchemy which doesn't just recycle Jungian schizophrenia or reduce the pseudoscience astrology bullshit people used to do for money in England to "the old world's less modern chemistry" was probably a joke anyway since it's not really a book about alchemy.

[Anonymous No.19566916]

>>19561199
Here you go, retard. Next time, don’t be so ambiguous.

[Anonymous No.19567404]

>>19562383
>islam