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this is just such hilarious book at times. reading Ted's letter exchange with his bloom brother is so incredibly funny (and tragic). its also a very human book that is insightfully dealing with this meat grinder called 'nuclear family'. truly recommended. every bit of it is good

https://b-ok.asia/book/11338056/50d5c4
https://b-ok.asia/book/11338055/8db7fc?dsource=recommend

>> No.19634063

>>19634053

>As to the real reason why I stopped snuggling up to my aunt: Josephine was a good-looking woman; though she was over forty at the time of my brother':^ birth, she'd kept herself in shape and was still attractive. 1 don't know whether it was rlormal or female body. a/ Not long after my brother's birth, my family and 1 visited the apartment where Josephine lived with her mother (my paternal grandmother). My aunt and I were sitting on a couch, and, attracted by her breasts, I slid over against her, put my arm over her shoulder, and said, "Let's play girlfriend." Josephine laughed and put her arm around me, and I had the decided satisfaction of feeling her breast against my body. My aunt just thought it was cute, but my mother was sharp enough to see what was really going on. After a short interval she said, "I think I'll go to the store and get some ice cream" (or maybe it was candy or som-ething else), and she invited me to come with her. I deciined, but she insisted that I should come. As soon as she got me out of the house she gave me a tongue-lashing and a lecture on appropriate behavior with ladies. It will not surprise the reader that, from then on, I kept my distance from Josephine.

>> No.19634069

>>19634053
>My mother and brother have claimed that their motive for portraying me to the media as a sicko has been to save me from the death penalty, but at least as far as my mother is concerned it should be clear to the reader by now that this is a lie. Whether or not their portrayal of me would make the death penalty less likely in the event of my conviction, it obviously makes my conviction more likely. In fact, my mother and brother have indicated that they want me to be convicted. g' Moreover, if I were convicted, the fact that I was abused would win sympathy for me that would make the death penalty less likely, yet my mother has made every possible effort to conceal the fact of the abuse. Clearly, then, my mother is not trying to save me; she is trying to save herself from the embarrassment of having the abuse revealed. By representing me as a madman who was never really a part of the family (as in the Washington Post interview), she is trying to distance me from herself so as to preserve her image of respectability in the face of my arrest as the Unabomber. And by attributing my supposed abnormality to that hospital experience she is trying to escape responsibility for the harm she inflicted on me. As the letters quoted in Chapter IV show, she is well aware of how important it is to me to have the abuse acknowledged, and how painful it is to me to be represented as mentally ill or as having been warped by "that hospital experience." One may ask what kind of mother it is who will abuse her son and then, in order to avoid the embarrassment of having the abuse revealed, tell lies that subject him to public humiliation and at the same time increase his risk of being convicted and of getting the death penalty.

>> No.19634536

Hilarious that people idolize this boob

>> No.19634832

>>19634536
this boob has more intelligence, sensitivity, humor, willpower, integrity and determination in his clipped toenail then you have in your entire being

>> No.19635094

>>19634053
i hope ted is ok. i still have to letter him

>> No.19635169

Is this new?

>> No.19635281

>>19635169
not at all, it was written a couple years after they caught him and published in 1999, as a response about how they painted him in the media as a loony with the help of him mother and brother. he states at the beginning that its not an autobiography but im almost at the end of it and i would say its the closest thing to that. that got published. its very gookdkgmd.

>> No.19635285

>>19634053
>>19634832
>>19635094
You have to be eighteen to live here

>> No.19636292

>What then shall we make of David Kaczynski? Is he a hero or a villain? To the convinced and committed bourgeois, terrified by the social instability that threatens his comfortable servitude, Dave seems to be a hero. Many other people will feel equally strongly that he is a villain: Not only was he motivated by malice that grew in large part out of his own sense of inferiority to his brother, but his revenge was a despicable one that cost him neither risk nor effort, and he apparently has not even had the courage to face up to his own motive. To me the issue is not so simple. In the first place, while covert 53' malice was undoubtedly my brother's main motive for lying about me in the media, it may have been only part of his motive for denouncing me to the FBI. Since he readily absorbs the values of the people around him, it may be that after living for several years in an essentially conventional milieu he was sincerely shocked by the suspicion that I might be the Unabomber

>> No.19636300

>>19636292
>Moreover, my brother is for the most part a generous and kindly person. Statements and writings of his that I've quoted in this chapter and in Chapter X1V indicate that he has at times had fantasies of doing violence to people and to property, but in practice, as far as I know, he has never done harm of any kind to anyone but me. And as for what he's done to me, I can't claim it is completely unjustified. I suppose I ought to be excused for the way I abused him verbally during my adolescence, since I was too young to understand what I was doing. But the cruel things that I said to him on certain occasions in adulthood are another matter. Even though I didn't know how badly I was hurting him, 1 did know that I was hurting him. (See Chapter XI.) My brother's personality has its radically disparate aspects; when I think of him as the gentle, generous man who truly appreciated nature and wrote so beautifully in his letters about his experiences in the desert, I feel sharp regret at many of the things I said to him; my resentment is muted, and I feel that he had a right to retaliate against me. When I think about his ugly side, about the covertness of his resentment, about the way he has subordinated himself to a selfish, vindictive woman, about the lying, underhand nature of his revenge, and about the fact that his resentment grew at least in part out of his own self-inflicted psychological subordination to me, I feel very bitter against him. On balance I condemn him, because his revenge seems to me to be far out of proportion to my offense. At the same time, I realize that I am not in a position to judge him objectively. Some people who are sufficiently detached from the situation to be free of bias, and who understand the lasting pain and injury that can be inflicted by verbal cruelty, may well feel that my brother's retaliation has been no more than an eye for an eye.

>> No.19636310

>>19636300
>But Dave's personal betrayal of me is much less important than his betrayal of an ideal, his selling out to an evil kind of society that is destroying, among other things, the wilderness that gave him the richest experiences of his life. A traitor is always hated far more than a straight forward enemy, and is an object of contempt to everyone except those who expect their side to gain some advantage from his treason. I distinguish between a traitor and a defector. By a defector I understand one who (changes his ideology and his loyalty as a result of an extended period of serious soul searching. By a traitor I mean one who switches sides as a mere matter of convenience, or in order to gain some personal advantage, whether material or psychological. My brother is unquestionably a traitor. There is not the slightest evidence that he did any serious soul-searching before selling out. As soon as Linda Patrik offered him the opportunity, he unhesitatingly made himself her acolyte in order to satisfy his own peculiar psychological needs. In doing so he left the desert, promptly joined the consumer society, adopted its values, and even, as would appearfronjhis Bee interview, acquired "faith in the system." 13' His denouncing me to the FBI was not only a personal betrayal of me, it was an act of commitment to the system, its values, and its power. To those of us who regard the system as evil, my brother is another Judas Iscariot, except that, unlike the original Judas, he doesn't even have enough courage to go and hang himself.

>> No.19636332

>>19636310
>In a recent telephone conversation with one of my investigators, Dave asked whether it was possible that I could ever forgive him. But he did not offer to retract publicly the lies he had told about me or to do anything else to make up for what he had done. Repentance is cheap - even sincere repentance - if it is not accompanied by any difficult act of reparation. Some years ago I read the Spandau Diaries of the former Nazi Albert Speer. 56' Speer's ruminations about his own guilt were fairly impressive as evidence of thoughtfulness and sensitivity, but I did notice that the book gave no indication that Speer had done, or intended to do, anything to make up for his actions as a Nazi. He apparently was in a comfortable position financially and he might, for example, have devoted large amounts of money or of personal effort to helping former victims of the Nazi regime, or their families, or victims of tyranny in some other part of the world. It seemed to me that it must have been rather easy for Speer to sit in his safe and comfortable study and write a book about his guilt (for which he was probably well paid). To answer my brother question, -yes could forgive him -under certain conditions. Basically he would have to undo his treason by detaching himself permanently from the consumer society, from the system and everything that it represents. In order to do this he would have to break off all connection with Linda Patrik, because her dominance over him is such that he could never make a lasting change in himself as long as he maintained a relationship with her. Two possible courses of action would be open to him. He could go back to his Texas desert, rip the electrical wiring out of his cabin, and return to his former way of life; or he could join some group that is fighting the system -for example, some group of' radical environmentalists of the Earth First type. I think the second alternative would be the only safe one for him. My brother does not easily adhere to any consistent line of thought or action without support from other people. If he went back to Texas, it's more than possible that he would fall again under the influence of the people he knows there, such as the Episcopal priest. Or, if Linda Patrik wanted him back, she could go down there to fetch him, and it's not likely that he would resist her.

>> No.19636338

>>19636332
>But if he immersed himself in a radical milieu, the influence of the people around him would help him to stay on a steady course. In this way he would not only earn my personal forgiveness; 58' what is more important, he would be cleansed and redeemed of his treason against the values that he once held in common with me and many other people. I know how to put him in touch with environmental radicals, and I believe they would accept him if he came to them repentant. But, unfortunately, I think it's unlikely that my brother will break away from Linda Patrik or from the consumer society. I think his submerged hatred of me and his strange need for his servile relationship with Linda are too strong; and beyond that I think he is simply too lazy. If he does not redeem himself, then as far as I am concerned he is the lowest sort of scum and the sooner he dies, the better

>> No.19636344

>>19636338
>Yet the opportunity for redemption is there if he wants to take it. The wild
country is waiting for him, and it always forgives those who are truly repentant.

>> No.19636351

>>19636310
damn

>> No.19636841

>>19634063
has that Jean Jacques Rousseau vibe to it.
hot.

>> No.19636952

>>19636841
hes a free spirit

>The New York Times refers to my "odd metronomic habit of rocking back and forth on a chair" '3' as I studied. This apparently is another case of mistaken identity. When studying in my room (not in the library) I had a habit of tilting-my chair back and balancing in that position, controlling the angle of tilt with light pressure of my feet on the legs of my desk. In a few cases I pushed my luck too far and fell over backwards. Because I was balancing, I swayed back and forth. My former suitemates have described this as "rocking," but the term is not apt, because "rocking" implies a rhythmic movement and my swaying was an irregular, non-rhythmic, balancing motion that wa:; anything but metronomic. (See Appendix 3) The reference to my alleged "odd metronomic habit" is almost certainly based on confusion between me and another student of mathematics who did not tilt his chair but rocked his body back and forth rhythmically as he studied. The motion was so rigidly timed, mechanical, and persistent that it could indeed have been described as "metronomic," and it made this student conspicuous in the library. Though I remembered only the first name of this man, we succeeded in identifying him. He is now a professor at one of the four or five most distinguished universities in the United States, and he has confirmed to my investigators that he did have the habit I've described

>> No.19638084

Say what you like about him, his manifesto was 100% truthful and prophetic

>> No.19638461

If you want to be normal I reccomend not reading K.
However the bit about his mother scolding him for touching booba is exactly what causes lasting sexual shame and inactivity later in life.

>> No.19638486

>>19634832
lmao he's just a second rate pynchon kiddo

>> No.19638488

>>19638084
You need to read more. His manifesto, on top of being derivative, is just based on a strawman you fell for

>> No.19638503

>>19638488

Leftist detected. Low self-esteem and oversocialisation. Many such cases. Sad!

>> No.19638508

>>19638503
Yes, just like that lol

>> No.19638509

>>19634069
Really weird how his brother and mother are acting.

>> No.19638516

>>19638509
It's pretty weird to mail pipe bombs to people too

>> No.19638525

>>19638516
Not for long.

>> No.19638529

>>19638525
Perhaps, but this was in the past

>> No.19638533

>>19634053
Jesus, is writing is impressive. How can he manage to be so visceral and detailed while lucid and synthetic at the same time?

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19638542

>>19638533
>Jesus, is writing is impressive.

>> No.19638544

>>19638516
I bet they dont even check for that anymore, so it is prime time to become trendy again.
Same as anthrax letters.

>> No.19638547

>>19638544
Maybe you should take your meds first

>> No.19638579

>>19638542
Posting this image reveals your disgusting inner self. Begone retard.

>> No.19638700

>>19638547
but that would make me lose my impetus as it also makes me lose my libido.
No, I wish to keep both, mr. Rosenberg.

>> No.19638726

>>19634063
This is how mothers ruin their sons. Alpha behavior that would have served him well in his future was nipped in the bud right then and there.

>> No.19638806

>>19638726
dude, by the time you gonna get to the second part of the book (pdf2) you gonna know just how alpha Ted is. the true beta in the family is his brother. he's actually almost a literal cuckold and Ted explicitly mentions the word in regard to him.

skip to page 251 in the first pdf.

>> No.19638811

>>19634063
holy kino

>> No.19638821

>>19638579
>N-no you

I don't think anybody worried about their inner self would end up following the unibomber

>> No.19638832

>>19638806
So alpha he had to hide away from society in his cuckshed and became a tranny in prison because he is afraid of girls and airplane noises gave him headaches, c'mon...

>> No.19638883

>>19638832
dude took to the mountains instead of wage cucking and coomsuming and that makes him a beta in your eyes?

>became a tranny in prison
where do you get this shit from?

>because he is afraid of girls
that he was afraid of girls is somewhat true due to lack of experience but he didn't let that fear hold him back from making advances to woman, particularly to a woman called Ellen Tarrnichael about which he talk in the beginning of the second part of the book (second link, pdf 2). he overcame his fear and went up to her and tried to establish a relationship. that didn't work out and you can read the whole story for yourself. i thought he handled himself very well in this episode and he wrote her a good letter when the relationship failed to develop which you can read in the appendix.

>> No.19638888

>>19638883
>about which he READ

>> No.19638899

>>19638883
Yeah he pussed out because he couldn't deal

>where do you get this shit from?
lmao he doesn't know. Sounds like you're very well read and up to speed on your interests pmao

>> No.19638908

>>19634053
I love uncle Ted but you can never trust an autobiography

>> No.19638930

>>19638908
>I love uncle Ted
Because you're too stupid to read anything better

>> No.19638943

>>19638930
Do people still fall for flaming?

>> No.19638948

>>19638908
you can trust his autobiography he doesn't hide his own mistreatment of his brother and the ugly shit he did in regards with him. also he reveals some very embarrassing shit in his life (he talks about himself as being "sexually starved")

i mean. if i was writing a biography im not sure i would have been able to be so frank about my own fuckups and sex life (of the lack of thereof).

nah he doesn't hold back on the bad stuff, he writes about himself intending to beat the shit out of a woman who rejected him. (he didn't at the end).

he talks about himself as being frustrated and full of resentment. this is an actual biography not a PR stunt

>> No.19638955

>>19638899
>Yeah he pussed out because he couldn't deal

why would you want "to deal" with comfortable servitude? you actually mean "conform to" not "deal with

>> No.19638966

>>19638908
>>19638948

Socrates wrote that the unexamined life is not worth living. Ted life is extremely examined by himself.

>> No.19638969

>>19638948
All of us have seen/done crazy sex stuff in the age of internet. It's a pretty big deal to just come out and be straight with that stuff, I think most of us live in such anxiety about it we could literally be blackmailed by it all. Says something about the world we live in

>> No.19639050

>>19638943
It's not flaming if it's truth ;)

>> No.19639056

>>19638969
lmao could you suck his dick any harder? Though, judging from his new prison gender, he'd probably suck yours ;)

>> No.19639067

>>19639056
stop projecting faggot, the only guy who sucks dicks here is probably you and you dont even suck one for pleasure, you suck your employer dick for promotion

>> No.19639112

>>19638966
>Socrates wrote
xDDDDDDD

>> No.19639117

>>19638883
>where do you get this shit from?
Teddy had one appointment with an psychiatrist while he was in college about transitioning (but never showed up to that appointment).
That made some people think he would be a tranner. The transitioning in jail thing is just shitposting.

The truth is that Teddy was an incel back then (even though that term didn't exist yet), thought that he could never be happy in society as a man and got the idea to become a transwoman for some time before realizing that society was just sick and becoming a transwoman would solve nothing. The old incel-tranner thing, it's pretty common.

>> No.19639159

>>19639117
i read about the tranny thing but i never read Ted talking about that. i did read him talking about some crises that he had in collage but he never specified.

the trouble is that there is so much misinformation about him that its very hard to take seriously anything at all that is written about him since painting him as a freak was the media's, the prosecution's and the FBI's strategy to isolate him from whatever sympathetic base he has. its also a way to divert the discussion from his ideas and analysis of modern society and technology's role in it to his person. as if by painting him as a loony we can forget that technology is wreaking havoc on our society and planet

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>> No.19639190

>>19639159
That is just the normal procedure.
Take Anders Breivik, the Utoya guy. He admitted that everything he did was just PR to make people read his manifest (which is gibberish unlike Teddys). That manifest was therefore never mentioned in the media. Most people don't even know it exists.

You can't blame the system for trying to maintain the status quo.

But everything is getting more and more fucked up anyways, the whole thing will implode without you doing anything. When Ted wrote the manifest some surrogate activities for men still existed (like being the Dad for a family, paying for a house, a car, 3 children, good healthcare food and education for them (something that is impossible today for 9 out of 10 men)) but even those become dreams for the majority of people today. Without surrogate activities for the majority of men everything will go downhill faster and faster with every passing year. It's already over.

>> No.19639242

>>19639190
i disagree that you can just "lay back" and "watch it happen" as if this is some spectacle and you're just a guy sitting in the audience. actually this is spectacular logic, the kind Guy Debord talked about. "Those who are always watching
to see what happens next will never act: such must be the spectator's condition" (Comments on the society of the spectacle / Guy Debord).

and, some Italian anarchists wrote about this spectacular logic in critique beautiful and devastating critique of Antonio Negri & Michael Hardt book Empire:

>Whoever does not speak with me and like me has nothing to say. Whoever does not act with me and like me is sick with impotency. Whoever does not live with me and like me desires to kill herself. This is the teaching that the Empire spreads among its enemies from the mouths of the two emissaries. But the barbarians are deaf to such foolish warnings; their ears are sensitive only to the voices that call them to the assault against the Empire, to making a clean sweep of the existent. Their fury even inspires terror in many enemies of the Empire who indeed desire to defeat it, but with good manners. As civilized cutthroats, they share the dissent but not the hatred; they understand the indignation but not the rage; they hurl protests slogans but not war cries; they are ready to shed saliva but not blood. They too — it is clear — desire the end of the Empire, but they wait for it to happen spontaneously, as a natural phenomenon. Pushed by the certainty that the Empire is seriously ill, its most educated enemies hope that a collapse frees humanity from its cumbersome presence as soon as possible. Besides, no one can deny that it is much less dangerous to obtain freedom after the peaceful departure of the master, like a hereditary fortune, rather than conquering it in battle. This indisputable observation leads them to sit on the banks of the river waiting to see the corpses of their enemies pass by carried by the currents.

>The barbarian nature is quite different; it doesn’t know this gentle patience. In fact, the barbarians are persuaded that it is vain to wait for the death of the Empire, which above all might not be quite so imminent as its civil enemies hope. Besides, this all leaves one to assume that at the moment of its collapse the Empire will bury everything, really everything, under its ruins. Then what is the purpose of waiting? Isn’t it better to go in search of the enemy and do everything possible to get rid of it? This barbaric determination rouses horror. The two emissaries are horrified; according to them the identification of the enemy is “the first question of political philosophy” (pp. 210–211) and as such cannot be concerned with barbarians, who in their coarseness are able at best to move “round in such paradoxical circles” (p. 211).

https://theanarchistlibrary.org/library/crisso-and-odoteo-barbarians-the-disordered-insurgence

>> No.19639273

>>19639242
I can see your point from a philosophical point of view, but from the empires that actually collapsed (Rome, Ottoman, Persia pp.) we have learned that they collapse due to their own weight. The Barbarians just make it happen sooner but they are not what doomed them.

>> No.19639300

>>19639273
sure the internal contradictions reached a critical point but the barbarians helped.

but the problem is elsewhere, the problem is that if you're not a barbarian then you're a citizen, and living as a citizen is a bad way to live (if its even a "way" at all and not mere existence)

>> No.19639648

>There is yet another way in which the media purvey falsehood, and in this case there cannot be the slightest doubt that intentional slanting is involved. Journalists will make negative statements about an individual that are so vague that there is no way they can ever be definitely proved or disproved, yet by repeating such statements over and over again throughout an article they can give their readers a decidedly false impression of the individual in question. Robert D. McFadden's article in the New York Times provides an excellent example of this technique. The article appears under the headline, " The Tortured Genius of Theodore Kaczynski." " In reality I am neither tortured nor a genius. McFadden proceeds to assert that in my Montana cabin I "watched dying embers flicker visions of a wretched humanity." I did nothing of the kind. The next paragraph states that mathematics was the "sole passion of [my] life" and that it was "suddenly dead." Actually, mathematics was never the sole passion of my life, and my interest in it declined not suddenly but gradually, over a period of years. McFadden then describes my undergraduate days at Harvard as "humiliating." They had their bad points, certainly, but I never felt that they were humiliating. He describes the lines at the corners of my mouth as "obstinate," but there is no rational evidence that they have anything to do with obstinacy. In his fifth paragraph, McFadden speaks of my supposed "instabilities", "obsessions," and "rigidities" 8/ without presenting any rational evidence that I was unstable, obsessed, or rigid, and he goes on to say that I "deteriorated" until my family "did not recognize" me, which is sheer fantasy. The article rambles along endlessly in the same vein. Most of these assertions are so indefinite that it would be virtually impossible ever to prove them false. How would one prove that one has no "instabilities" or that one has not "deteriorated?" The words are just too vague. It might be possible to disprove a few of the assertions if one wanted to take the trouble; for example, I might be able to document that fact that mathematics was never the sole passion of my life. But I would have to devote several pages to this seemingly trivial point, and in doing so I would look ridiculous because I would appear to be making a mountain out of a molehill. I would look even more ridiculous if I tried to prove that 1 am not "tortured", since the word was never meant to be taken literally anyway; it was used only for its emotional impact. Yet emotional language and indefinite assertions of the kind used by McFadden, when repeated over and over, can quite successfully portray an individual as a repellent sicko.

>> No.19639691

>Before my arrest -- that is, before I had the opportunity to compare what I know to be the truth with what the media say - if someone had told me how dishonest the media are I would never have believed it. Since my arrest I have talked with a number of lawyers, investigators, jail personnel, and law enforcement officers who in their daily work have seen the difference between what they have personally experienced and what the media report, and they have all told me that most journalists have little regard for truth and little hesitation about embroidering their stories. As one very able lawyer expressed it to me, "These people are animals - animals!" (See Appendix 7)

>Why do journalists stretch the truth as far as they do? For one thing, the news media are supported mainly by advertising, and to sell advertising space they need a large audience. They know that the public is more attracted by a dramatic story that portrays someone as a hero or a villain than by a sober, careful, balanced account. For another thing, the media are controlled by people who are committed to the system because it is from their position in the system that they get their power and their status. Consequently, the media constitute a kind of cheerleading squad for the system and its values. Journalists who don't cooperate with the system's propaganda line are not hired by major news outlets and that is why the news media uniformly support the basic values of the system. It is also why they portray as a villain or a sicko anyone who appears to be a threat to those values. In my case, the FBI quickly succeeded in convincing the media (through dishonest tactics that we will discuss later) that I was probably the Unabomber. Journalists must have realized that my identification as the Unabomber was uncertain, since the FBI is known to have railroaded innocent people in the past, but they knew that they could attract a bigger audience by jumping on the bandwagon and trumpeting to the world the capture of the supposed Unabomber than by publishing a sober account that retained rational skepticism.

>> No.19639699

>Moreover, the Unabomber had attacked the basic values of the system in a strikingly effective way; hence, once they had accepted the assumption that I was the Unabomber, the media had to maintain the propaganda line by depicting me as a repellent sicko. During the first months following my arrest I repeatedly asked my lawyers about the possibility of suing same of these people for libel, but they told me that it probably wouldn't be worth the trouble, because the very volume of publicity about me had made me into a "public figure," and the libel laws concerning "public figures" made it very difficult for any such person to win a libel suit. The statement I made earlier, that the major news media uniformly support the basic values of the system, may be questioned by some readers who notice that it is not uncommon for the media to criticize various aspects of the system. But there is a difference between questioning aspects and questioning basic values of the system.

>> No.19639752

>>19639067
>he doesn't know

>> No.19639761

>>19639117
Uhh there's prison footage too lol

>> No.19639969

>>19639761
then post it bro

>> No.19640111

>>19639173

>IQ of 167
>Can't do joined up handwriting

>> No.19640430

Classic case of incel rage, with sexual energies redirected to intellectual pursuits and then- when that achieved nothing- against society itself.

His lack of self critical awareness is grotesque, and would be funny if it had not destroyed four lives (including his own) and maimed many more.

>> No.19640453

>Shitposters will make negative statements about an individual that are so vague that there is no way they can ever be definitely proved or disproved, yet by repeating such statements over and over again throughout a thread they can give the lurkers a decidedly false impression of the individual in question

>> No.19640458

>>19640430
pussy

>> No.19640535

>>19640430
>when that achieved nothing
>dude became a professor in his early 20's

>> No.19640603

>>19640430
he was smart = neet incel rage

do you tell yourself lies about attractive and rich people too? are they also only that way from being sad angry incels?