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19671127 No.19671127 [Reply] [Original]

what games do you think the buddha would not play in the current year? serious replies only
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_games_that_Buddha_would_not_play

>> No.19671146

>>19671127
Religion is a retarded farce.

>> No.19671165

>>19671127
I used to play board games by myself as a child, particularly Risk and Monopoly.

>> No.19671166

>>19671127
He'd only play roguelikes and walking simulators.

>> No.19671187

Anyone know any sutta's where he discusses game playing in general in the pali canon?

>> No.19671315
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>>19671127
How many swipes would buddah get?

>> No.19671324

>>19671315
>prince
he'd be swimming in it

>> No.19671391

"Any desire, passion, delight, or craving for form, feeling, perception, fabrications, or consciousness, Radha: when one is caught up there, tied up there, one is said to be 'a being.'
"Just as when boys or girls are playing with little sand castles: as long as they are not free from passion, desire, love, thirst, fever, & craving for those little sand castles, that's how long they have fun with those sand castles, enjoy them, treasure them, feel possessive of them. But when they become free from passion, desire, love, thirst, fever, & craving for those little sand castles, then they smash them, scatter them, demolish them with their hands or feet and make them unfit for play.
"In the same way, Radha, you too should smash, scatter, & demolish form, feeling, perception, fabrications, and consciousness, and make it unfit for play."
-Satta Sutta

The Buddha's game was to ruin every game, particularly the game that people don't realize they're always playing.

>> No.19671406

>>19671127
was the buddha autistic

>> No.19671424

>>19671146

Irreligion is no less a farce, and worse, it's a farce with incomprehensibly uglier houses of worship.

>> No.19671478

>>19671391
can you tell me more?

>> No.19671502

>>19671127
Given these rules, he'd unironically play videogames instead. But he would play more sandbox genres.

They have a common theme of restriction, and if the game has restrictions, I don't think he'll play them.

>> No.19671506

>>19671315
>>19671324
Already probably swam in it. Found it foul tasting and became Based Volcel instead.

>> No.19671603
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>>19671478
Not him but it helps to be familiar with Buddhism in general to read the Pali suttas, and the Walshe/Bodhi translations both include introductions and endnotes to explain the basic ideas. So for instance if we look at what is being said here, it is actually quite formulaic even if it becomes specific later in the text:
>"Any desire, passion, delight, or craving for form, feeling, perception, fabrications, or consciousness, Radha: when one is caught up there, tied up there, one is said to be 'a being.'
Here Buddha is referring to the five skandhas, or aggregates, factors which make up our experiences, experiences we reify as desirable things. Because none of these factors are permanent or enduring under analysis, from the perspective of Buddhist soteriology, attachment to them furthers a cycle of birth/arising and death/cessation. In other words, to derive a sense of being or imagine a self on the basis of these causal and temporary factors is to err, and one who realizes this error is able to destroy the factors of birth and death.
The metaphor of playing idle or frivilous or childish games for entertainment is used to illustrate this—imagining the ephemeral to be worthy of desire is for the immature.

>> No.19671607

>>19671165
Me 2

>> No.19671687

>>19671406
Most likely
Buddhism is almost machine-like

>> No.19671719

The Buddha, xXxLotusLoverxXx69, as we knew him back then, was an absolute beast of a CoD player.

>> No.19671737

>>19671719
Buddha used to spawn camp and immediately release sentient gamers from the server. When he was called out on this by some upset server admins, he sent them to the skybox and revealed that the entire map only existed as an endless cycle of respawning.

>> No.19671738

>>19671607
We're just two silly gooses.

>> No.19671786

The Buddha was Fez Whatley of Ron & Fez.

>> No.19672532

>>19671146
you probably unknowingly worship Mammon, faggot

>> No.19673360

>>19671406
Buddhism is the elevation of NEETdom to divine status.

>> No.19673494

But wanting to get rid of desire is a desire in itself. How does the Buddha explain this contradiction.

>> No.19673496

>>19671127
Buddha
>Calm strategy player
>Will defeat you, but not humiliate you, without prejudice
Christ
>Generous strategy player
>Will give you many chances to defeat him, many chances to give up, and may even throw just to teach a lesson
Muhammad
>Beats you up as fast and hard as he can, in and out of game
Stirner
>Stirs shit, has fun, "loses"
Schoopy
>Dies
Mainlander
>Dies

>> No.19673726

>>19671127
>what games do you think the buddha would not play in the current year?
>serious replies only
The coomer PNG slot machines known as g*cha """games""".

>> No.19674187

>>19671127
More importantly, what games would the Buddha play?

>> No.19674230

>>19671165
>risk and monopoly
more like rick and morty haha

>> No.19674427

>>19671127
>14. Guessing at letters traced with the finger in the air or on a friend's back.
Probably couldn't feel the pleasure from this because he was a fat incel

>> No.19674470

>>19673494
This kind of "gotcha" always reveals the spiritual poverty of those that are daimonically enthralled with the Faustian way of perceiving the world.
Cognition is not the only function of intellect, and metaphysical-intuitive intellect is superior, as it is the presupposition to any discursive, bi/multi polar thought process.
Meditation overcomes the duality-problem in cognition. You reveal yourself as just a gnome in a computer dome through your inability to understand , you fool

>> No.19674496

>>19671506
This is canonical. When he was living as a prince prior to the Awakening, he was supposedly encouraged by his father to indulge in fornication with harems, which he renounced. He also left behind a wife when he went onto the path of enlightenment. Biographies of the Buddha are often conflicting though.

>> No.19674540

>>19673494
Easy, just have that desire be the last to thing you get rid of. Is thinking of that really so difficult? Also, when people talk about the death of the ego they don't mean for you to rid yourself of all your desires/attachments to the world (that's the best way to stop being a functioning human being).

>> No.19674546

>>19674470
Okay, dumb it down for me?

>> No.19674558

>>19674540
>they don't mean for you to rid yourself of all your desires/attachments to the world
What do they mean then?

>> No.19674590

>>19674546
tl;dr desire =/= will. Stopping all desires includes the desire to stop desires. What's left? Will, and will is compassion.

In the Abrahamic tradition, you have a soul, and all things about the individual come from it, and all thoughts and actions come from conscious actions ordered by the soul. In Buddhism, that is absolutely NOT the case. A person is incredibly composite. A common criticism of Buddhism by Abrahamoids is that if you end desire, how can you do anything? But the parts of the mind that are responsible for desire are NOT responsible for the sum total of human life. "Desire" is only a fraction of what motivates a human. What makes a human do stuff when that human has moved past desire? The rest of what makes you human.

>> No.19674597

>>19671146
>t. tranny who curates Diversity chapters on Wikipedia
dilate

>> No.19674610

>>19674558
You gain a moment of clarity where your mind isn't distracted by the small desires that occup you most of the time and you can see the path you are to take (the goal all of the desires where always trying to lead you to, but, on their own, were never able to accomplish). You stop seeing things as "I want this and I want that" and just experience things as they are meant to. It's not breaking anything.

>> No.19674653

>>19674590
>>19674610
Thanks.

>> No.19674662

Might as well ask it here rather than making a new thread, which book to begin with for Buddhism?

>> No.19674671

>>19674590
Not me
>>19674470
Me

>>19674546
When you rest in awareness you let desire exhaust itself until it reveals itself to be purely illusion.
Desire is just as attached as hatred is, and both lead to an enslaved form of existence.
You dont go into meditation in a reactive manner, and you don't react with aversion or attachment to what appears. Thus you cut out the polarity and become yourself the axis around which everything spins.

>> No.19674687

>>19671391
>cut your dick

>> No.19674743

>>19674671
>You dont go into meditation in a reactive manner, and you don't react with aversion or attachment to what appears.
Does that mean that nothing you see has any possibility of being real?

>> No.19674750

Fortnite

>> No.19674769

>>19674743
>Does that mean that nothing you see has any possibility of being real?
No, Buddhism is quite empirical. Buddhism is more distrusting of language than actual empirically observed phenomena.

>> No.19674778

>>19674743
Any particular thing *cannot* be ultimately real, and is only transient, composite and illusory

>> No.19674794

>>19674610
>>19674671
I want this. Where do I begin?

>> No.19674979

>ploughing with a toy plough
What's the appeal of this game?

>> No.19674983

Just a reminder that any kind of monastery no matter the religion, was just the dumping ground of village idiots, schizos, or autists afflicted by OCD that can't deal with the evolutionary pressure of having sex

>> No.19675026

>>19674983
Hahahahaha what a loser hahahaha oh man :) you're sad anon :)

>> No.19675042

>>19675026
you still haven't refuted my point

>> No.19675056

>>19674794
Start with What the Buddha Taught, then read the Heart Sutra.

>> No.19675311
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19675311

>games the Buddha would DEFINITELY play

>> No.19675336

>>19671127
i'm reading this and think he was right
i will refrain from playing such games

>> No.19675345

>>19674470
yes, based…

>> No.19675473
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>>19674794
Start with the 'Jeets

>> No.19675487

>>19674983
Was also a means of consuming the surplus population in a non-destructive way, and in some cases also productive of art, philosophy, science, etc. if the surplus people were high quality

>> No.19675502

>>19671127
Buddha would stream League of Legends

>> No.19675505

>>19671719
based

>>19671737
based and ascendantpilled

>> No.19675511

>>19674470
based

>>19673494
*hits bong* damn bro...... buddhism btfo.....

>> No.19675534

>>19674671
>>19674470
bullshit, bullshit, bullshit. Fact of the matter is, you and every western cunt who is into buddhism wants to achieve certain things and that's why you started looking into it and meditating. You still do. No buddhist can refute this simple argument. The best you can do is say 'uh... well, there are some good desires'.

>> No.19675545

>>19675534
you're really stupid if you think a 2,500 year old tradition has never thought of your cretinous little gotcha

>> No.19675552

>>19675545
It did think about it. It just hasn't been able to refute it. Just like it hasn't been able to refute how all that shit about hungry ghosts and other obvious bullshit is gay.

>> No.19675556

>>19675552
Oh I really wish there was a way to range ban all Americans and their dogshit opinions

>> No.19675566

>>19675556
Me too. Fortunately I'm not American. You can start providing an actual argument at any time, by the way. Don't tell me you believe in all of the supernatural beings/realms nonsense too?

>> No.19675585

>>19675566
It's really not Buddhism's fault that your immediate impression of "supernatural realm" is, in all likelihood, something influenced by a movie or a video game.

>> No.19675606

>>19675585
Too embarrassed to admit buddhism is full of supernatural nonsense like that huh? It's ok, buddhism has a few good ideas mixed in amidst all the contradictions and superstition.

>> No.19675612

>>19675606
Yawn. Enjoy your winter break.

>> No.19675648

What book to begin with for Buddhism?

>> No.19675649

>>19675552
Buddhism has a funny relationship with devas, asuras, ghosts etc. It took them over from Indian theology but believes they are all capable of death and rebirth, like humans or other animals. So the existence of the supernatural is just another form of the natural rather than something transcendent and unknowable.

>> No.19675653

>>19675648
In terms of secondary lit, Stcherbatsky is old but better than any Californian

>> No.19675710

>>19675649
okay but let's be honest here, it's both bullshit and gay, isn't it?

>> No.19675721

>>19675710
>A world is not, however, a location so much as it is the beings which compose it; it is sustained by their karma and if the beings in a world all die or disappear, the world disappears too. Likewise, a world comes into existence when the first being is born into it. The physical separation is not so important as the difference in mental state; humans and animals, though they partially share the same physical environments, still belong to different worlds because their minds perceive and react to those environments differently.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buddhist_cosmology

Jesus Christ, imagine getting your shit pushed in by the Wikipedia article. Take your daily prescribed medication you fucking nonce

>> No.19675748

>>19675649
This is correct but it is also what Hinduism says and not unique to Buddhism. The only thing that is transcendent is the dharmakaya or cause-ground and its "energies" or manifestations like tathata, shunyata, nirvana etc etc.

>> No.19675765

>>19675748
It's entirely at odds with the western/monotheist notion of god, but even in the nikayas when Buddha speaks to Brahma he calls him ignorant of his past lives. So there is a major difference from the Vedic and Hindu religions too in that the gods are all cosmologically downgraded

>> No.19675800

>>19675765
The conceptions of devas/devis (gods) in Buddhism is entirely cosmologically compatible with Hinduism. Also there is a difference between Brahma (a deva who helped to create this universe) and Brahman (objective absolute, i.e. God). He is similar to the Platonic demiurge. Brahma is not worshipped in Hinduism, or Buddhism. If I remember correctly in all of India there is only one real temple to Brahma. The Dalai Lama once said "We do not worship Brahma. Buddhism does not have a creator God." Of course atheist instantly got an erection not understanding the distinction between Brahma and Brahman.

Yahweh would be classified as an asura (demon) within Hinduism and Buddhism. When reading the bible you will notice that yaweh is repeatedly described as wrathful, aggressive, scronful, punishing etc. Nevertheless many Christians still develop the correct intuition about God that is at least compatible with that of adherents of other religions.

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>>19675800
good post

>> No.19675856

>>19675042
Don't have to :)

>> No.19675883

>>19675534
You didn't engage with any of my arguments. I did not claim there are "good" or "bad" desires. I said there is aversionand attachment. Both of these keep you in the maelstrom cause they give you the illusion that any particular could be universal, or could even be what you think it is, at its core.
Simply letting these pass before your awareness is neither aversion nor attachment. You exhaust these. I mentioned this before.

>> No.19676032

>>19671127
Call of Duty is Haram, Sariputta

>> No.19676045

>>19671165
>>19671607
Did you also decide which side was you and which was the opponent and got disappointed when you lost?

>> No.19676051

>>19675800
Based and YWHW Angerpilled

>> No.19676287

>>19675800
>"We do not worship Brahma. Buddhism does not have a creator God." Of course atheist instantly got an erection not understanding the distinction between Brahma and Brahman.
This is true though, Buddhism is 'atheist' insofar as it does not believe the world is created and/or sustained by a transcendent creator god, whether that god is from the Vedas or the Torah or the Enneads. Its cosmology does include non-eternal gods so in that sense it is only atheism from the perspective of western religion. The survival of Brahma in Buddhist discourse in Tibet and not Hindu discourse in India is due to Buddhism preserving archaic forms of Indian polytheism. Another good example is Indra; an irrelevant figure today in Hindu theology while Mahayana Buddhists still use "Indra's Net" as a metaphor for emptiness and interdependence of phenomena, e.g. as in the Avatamsaka Sutra. Hindus have moved on to Vishnu/Krishna, Shiva, and Brahman

>> No.19676375

>>19676287
>Buddhism is 'atheist' insofar as it does not believe the world is created and/or sustained by a transcendent creator god.
Buddhism has a God conception. Your statement is only true if you remove the word 'transcendent'. Because technically in Buddhism the transcendent is the creator and God. There is just no material intermediating entity like a creator god that helps to create the world.

>> No.19676405

>>19676375
The correct description within the western framework would be: Buddhism is panentheist - not atheist.

>> No.19676441

>>19676045
I played different strategies with each side, but never got upset because the side I wanted to win, or I thought was superior, failed. I didn't play by the rules of Risk or Monopoly that people play by in accordance with the handbook.

>> No.19676664

I think Buddah would approve of my favorite video game Mountain Blade

>> No.19676837

>>19676375
>technically in Buddhism the transcendent is the creator and God
>>19676405
panentheist
There's a reason all the post-Buddhist Hindu theologians defined themselves against Buddhism. It's because Buddhism reduces gods to phenomena of samsara, which have the same ultimate reality, dharma, as everything else. That means there is no salvation through any god whatsoever. They just exist, empty of any way they are described by theologians, just as phenomena are empty of what the philosophers assign them

>> No.19676928

>>19676837
You are confused about Buddhist / Hindu terminology. I suggest staying away from /r/Zen and intellectual hippis. You missunderstand emptiness and you do not understand the difference between God and gods.

>> No.19677044

>>19676928
There's no God, as in the transcendent creator God of Western theology in Buddhism, and there's no God, as in the absolute reality principle of Brahman used in Hinduism, either. I don't see how you can make such an elementary error and then posture as if you better informed than Californians on the subject

>> No.19678037

>>19671127
This is retarded lol

>> No.19678062

>>19671127
That game were you all gather around a cookie and jerk off, the last person to dump their load on the cookie has to eat it. Fairly sure Buddha would not play that one.

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>>19678062
Because he knew Jesus would whoop his ass.

>> No.19678258

>>19675552
It has, see >>19674470

>> No.19678291

>>19675800
>Buddhism does not have a creator God
does Gautama (in pali canon) ever deny a creator? I haven't read a lot of it but feels like he'd just shrug it off honestly.

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>>19678291
When questioned about a creator God he explain this using 'skillful means'

https://encyclopediaofbuddhism.org/wiki/Parable_of_the_poisoned_arrow

>> No.19678435

>>19678291
You can't have a creator or first cause and have momentariness

>> No.19678506

>>19671127
This is just a list of all pastimes classifiable as "games" that existed back then.
He obviously doesn't want you playing any of them, computer games would've been included if they were around.

>> No.19678510

>>19672532
>unknowingly worship
I love when religious people make up the most retarded concepts