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>The Treachery of Words
What authors delve competently on this subject?

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Umineko no Kokoro Ni

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I miss Molymeme.

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>>19742221
Concerning the works of René Magritte, The Human Condition is pretty much Baudrillard's Simulacra and Simulation in painting form.

>> No.19742443

>>19742221
Nietzsche. Heidegger. Handful of literary theorists.

>> No.19742463 [DELETED] 

>>19742221
I saw the hare between her legs and said, "My dear, young girls shouldn't have hares between their legs." Τhe now hareless blonde sat gave me a toothy grin and said, "See, the hare's now outta my hair." This shameless jokestress had been using a hare to cover her hair!

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>>19742221
I saw the hare between her legs and said, "My dear, young girls shouldn't have hares between their legs." Τhe now hareless blonde sat back down, gave me a toothy grin and said, "See, the hare's now outta my hair!"

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>>19742221
I saw the hare between her legs and said, "My dear, young girls shouldn't have hares between their legs." Τhe now hareless blonde gave me a toothy grin and said, "See, the hare's now outta my hair!"

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>>19742221
EVERYONE UNDERSTANDS AN IMAGE IS A REPRESENTATION AND NOT AN OBJECT MAGRITTE YOU ABSOLUTE HACK YOU CHARLATAN YOU FUCKING POMPOUS HONKEY JESUS CHRIST I CAN'T BELIEVE MY LIT PROFESSORS THOUGHT THIS POMO SHIT WAS PROFOUND IN THE 90S OR EVER HOLY HELL I WANT MY GODDAMN MONEY BACK

>> No.19743423

>>19743344
*This is not a shitpost*

>> No.19743429

>>19743344
true enlightenment is deceptively simple

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>>19743423
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>>19743344
Based

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>>19743663

>> No.19743935

Second-era Wittgenstein and his stuff on Private Language

>> No.19743961

>>19743737
I truly hate you.

>> No.19743970

>>19743344
Prove it.

>> No.19743977

>>19743961
So what you're actually saying is you have a irrational longing for the papillon?

>> No.19743990

>>19742221
Pindar in his 8th Nemean Ode.

>> No.19743992

>>19742221
READ DERRIDA
READ DERRIDA
READ DERRIDA

>> No.19743996

>>19743935
I feel like first-era Wittgenstein talks about this too.

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>>19743344
>I CAN'T BELIEVE MY LIT PROFESSORS THOUGHT THIS POMO SHIT WAS PROFOUND IN THE 90S OR EVER
Lol, wut?

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>>19742221
>Ceci n'est pas une réalité

>> No.19745064

>>19742221
Maurice Blanchot is pretty good. If you like Derrida or Bataille diffidently check him out.

>> No.19746762 [DELETED] 

sneed

>> No.19747824

>>19743996
Not in a literary way, except the last few lines on Tractatus.

Okay, after writing that, I went to check the aforementioned last few lines. I couldn't stop reading in the reverse order for a while. I take what I wrote back. I must have forgotten how good a writer he was.

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>>19742221
>The Treachery of Words

There is no such thing; that title is nonsensical at least, and conflates "treachery" with transvertibility at most.

Beyond deliberate nonsense, like that in the image attached to your post, the fact is that the universal coherence of a significant is directly proportional to the integral transvertibility of its object/texture —id est: prerequisite for the coherence of what is interchangeable in appearence is the inherent crepuscle of what is transvertible in form.

Aesthetical harmony becomes/is in syncord with semantical accuracy; this syncord is what facilitates the poetical realization of the transvertible potential of language, and, therefore, is formally a constitutive part of what makes the best poetry philosophical, and the best philosophy poetical.

>> No.19749185

>>19742221
Machado de Assis.

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>>19748836
>Beyond deliberate nonsense, like that in the image attached to your post
A tripfag pleb: I am Jack's complete lack of surprise.
If you started to use less big words on the one hand and understand more of them on the other one, it'd be a first step towards real education. Honestly.

>> No.19749514

>>19748836
So what's your opinion on the theory that classical Sanskrit is the most perfected of the big three: ibid, Greek, Latin?

>> No.19749520

>>19749497
What he said makes sense, but is considered verboten in scientific linguistic discourse

>> No.19749566

>>19743344
magritte was pomo?

>> No.19749572

>>19749566
Magritte was written about by Foucault. But his argument is just a rehash of Borges

>> No.19749573

>>19743992
derrida isn't really about the treachery of words but the treachery of a metaphysics that finds itself asserted in places not afforded to it by right

>> No.19749588

>>19748836
>the universal coherence of a significant is directly proportional to the integral transvertibility of its object/texture

no it isn't

>object/texture
like written words lol

>> No.19749593

>>19749572
so was velasquez, now las meninas is pomo?

>> No.19749602

>>19749593
Sure, everything is pomo, which is style over substance

>> No.19749606

>>19749602
-____-;

>> No.19749793

>>19743344
I contend your assertion.

The vast majority will ask "Well, if it's not a pipe, then what is it?" when presented with that painting for the first time.

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>>19749588
>like written words lol

Texture pertains to the form of what is contected/synthesized, which is not limited to verbal text.


>>19749514

I do not know it, but from what I had glimpsed of it in the past, it seemed overly sinuous to me, and not as dexter as Greek, and Latin, which constitute a virtually perfect combination of these two qualities.

>> No.19750371

>>19749793
That's because they are really saying "Well, if it's not a painting of a pipe, then what is it a painting of?" Its status as a representation of an object and not the object itself is so obvious to any viewer that they would not at first consider the text to be a claim that is meant to affirm the images status as a representation.

Answering their question with "It is not a pipe, it is a painting of a pipe" will result in eyerolls just about every time because of how pedantic it is.

>> No.19750432

>>19750371
that very second nature of representation is the very thing Magritte is shining a light on.