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19854521 No.19854521 [Reply] [Original]

Was Redbeard, like Nietzsche (who he read), centuries ahead of his time? 100 years later literally billions of people cannot accept that "anti-racism" is impossible and see the truth right in front of them that all of life is war.

>> No.19854528

just because you're a racist that doesn't need a reason to stomp on a minority's face doesn't mean everyone else is being delusional.

>> No.19854531

>might is right
>Century's ahead
More like century's behind. It's an idea as old as time.

>> No.19854536

>>19854521
Most people grow out of their edgy phase. Uou will too unless you are a literal retard

>> No.19854540

>>19854521
Aside from the responses ITT I agree. You know who biggest identitarians are? Black people. But I bet this board's lefties will screech at me even if its true. That being said, why should you not be, genuine question?

>> No.19854544

>>19854521
t. hasn't even been in a school fight
What's with incels and war, is it the imagined glory?

>> No.19854572

>might is right bro
>nooooooooo u can't resort to XYZ to establish dominance, that's not right

>> No.19854589

>>19854572
Might is the arbitrator in all other forms of dominance.

>> No.19854598

Tanks and predator drones don’t see race. They don’t see humanity at all.

>> No.19854612

>>19854589
Cowering behind institutions built by the mighty generations ago isn't very mighty. Julius Caesar's dominance over the Senate is incompatible to the 8th generation Rothschild's dominance over his servants.

>> No.19854618

>>19854612
incomparable not incompatible

>> No.19854628

>>19854540
If you're talking about American blacks, why wouldn't they be identitarians though? If the entire majority culture in your country actively is against you for hundreds of years it just makes sense that you develop a unifying counter-ideology based on race.

>> No.19854658

>>19854612
Those institutions built by the mighty generations ago are sustained by might today. You make an interesting point with the Rothschilds but ultimately the only reason why they are able to keep the wealth that makes them powerful is through the force employed by the law. If one day a greater might than the state were to arise and were to demand the Rothschilds hand over their wealth, could they realistically say no?

>> No.19854661

>>19854528
You can't be a non-racist (or anti-racist).

You either support your race or you don't. There is no in-between.

>> No.19854688

>>19854658
2/2

For now I've concluded that the reason why most people can't accept that anti-racism is impossible is because they're degenerate. And notice how it's mostly White people, so this makes sense, as the West is the most degenerate place on Earth. Other peoples may be brutal (Chinese) or unintelligent (blacks) but they're not degenerate in the sense that they're ethnocentric, whereas Europeans are the superior (most capable) people whilst also being the most degenerate.

European peoples brains have degenerated such that they can't see the reality which is as plain as day to everybody else, which is that all of life is war and that there never is any true reprieve or reprieval or peace.

Other factors: Complacency, just world fallacy, no big war for 80 years, bread and circuses.

I don't mean to get too political here, but this is part philosophy part history part politics. I'm most interested in the philosophical discussion of whether anti-racism is possible or not.

>> No.19854692

>>19854688

My two posts are >>19854661 >>19854688

>> No.19854737

>>19854661
Learn to read and respond to my actual comment instead of just spewing ideological propaganda.

>> No.19854744

>>19854658
>Those institutions built by the mighty generations ago are sustained by might today.
They're not. They're sustained by good will and laws built up by the mighty generations ago. How can you be mighty if you've never overcome anything? You're just restorting to
>this guy is mighty because he's in charge and he's in charge because he's mighty
Which is circular logic.
>If one day a greater might than the state were to arise and were to demand the Rothschilds hand over their wealth, could they realistically say no?
Well that's kind of what happened in Russia. You kill a bunch of kulaks, surely then the revolutionaries were the mighty in that case right? The people the kulak (or the Tzar) dominated for the past X years of his life were all weaklings, until one day, when they all collectively overcame themselves and murdered him and took his land, right? I feel like you come to the point where you can only really say who's mightier than who after events, as soon as you leave the individual and move on to states. The senate killed Julius Caesar, therefore in a span of few years, Caesar became the weak. It just doesn't sit right with me.
In any case, it feels reductionist because it often applies might to the (undeserving) individual and not to the complex that made it happen. If you said The Rothschild dynasty is mighty barely anyone could disagree. The weak heirs doing cocaine and accomplishing nothing be damned.
Also lol at people making it about modern American race relations.

>> No.19854752

>>19854628
Blacks are funny people. They mostly use that counter ideology for victimhood, something Ragnar would scoff at. Neither him or Nietzsche supported victimhood of any kind.

>> No.19854765

>>19854752
>we're the victims so give us reparations and power
This is completely in line with exerting their will to power by using morality of the rabble as a tool. Or is it not cool when your opponent does it?

>> No.19854787

>>19854752
>>19854765
The part that Ragnar would scoff at is their use of manipulativeness rather than violence to get the job done. Violence is Aryan. Though a finer point here is that Ragnar doesn't mind, and generally people don't, when that violence is clandestine.

>> No.19854791

>>19854752
It just makes sense to appeal to people's empathy when you're the weaker party anon.

>> No.19854817

>>19854787
>what a bunch of losers for not running into the barrels of tanks and helicopters of an enemy state
Why would you scoff at that? It'd be suicidal.

>> No.19854819

>>19854521
>I need books to confirm and rationalise my irrational resentment against others
Read Nietzsche again without trying to fit his writings into your own worldview

>> No.19854820

>>19854521
What can be made of the fact that two of the most notable caricatures of Nietzschean death of God & will to power, were penned under pseudonyms [Ragnar Redbeard; Bronze Age Pervert]?
No matter how much it could be argued that they did so out of pragmatic, Machiavellian tact, it just goes to show that by their very own theses, they are weak and powerless. Unable to be the people they fancy themselves by sheer brawn, kept in check by the real power of realpolitik, hidden cabals and the military-industrial apparatus of nations and supranational organisations, they escape to a fairytale land in which people like them would in fact be able to be in charge.

>>19854544
It doesn't help when you bandy about words like "incel" that have no real bearing on the subject matter. As for the people who are drawn to these authors, they're the very people who likely have experienced schoolyard scraps and pub brawls and come out on top. Contrasting their physical prowess to their crushing defeats in other spheres of life (not necessarily romantic, however), they take refuge in the one form of power they feel they still have.

>> No.19854850

>>19854521
Get this man some pussy ASAP.

>> No.19855057

>>19854572
Why would you teach your children the wrong thing intentionally?

>> No.19855067

>>19854819
1. Intertribal antagonism is not irrational, it's rational

2. Conflict = / = Hate. You can squish bugs or genocide people without hating them.

>>19854817
It's just not the Aryan way of doing things. Less noble.

>>19854820
Did you read the book? He talks about how the state has become the ultimate vehicle of power that Nero or whoever could never have dreamed of. You are right in that he does somewhat lament the situation. I don't think it's exactly escapism though. Redbeard was proto-fascist in his support of eugenics - "the meek are only good for dog's meat". He's saying the weak SHOULD be destroyed, whoever they are, and there's no reason to think he'd exclude himself from that judgement. Though I also like the line "be dangerous, even in defeat". Also just watched Watchmen and thought of that line when Rorschach was cornered.

>> No.19855150
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>>19854521
>It's childish so it's wrong
>maturity is being a loyal wageslave who consumes products
>old idea means it's wrong
>no I won't present any other argument

>> No.19855166

>>19854820
*posts anonymously*
>nothing personal kid

>> No.19855355

The book is highly entertaining and worth a read no matter what ideology or religion you subscribe to.

>> No.19855377

>>19854737
>acting in your self interest is… le BAD
liberals only hate the idea of white nationalism because it was disprove the idea that all races are equal. their enlightenment era values are a religion to them

>> No.19855930

>>19854737
Did you reply to the right comment? I replied directly to what you said... You're using a word that's insubstantial.

>> No.19855951

>>19855150
He rips on wageslaves so hard. I loved those parts of the book. Screenshotted it and spread it around a few times but never really took off.

>> No.19855984

>>19854521
>centuries ahead of his time?
It's literally "me kill. me win". a caveman tier outlook.

>> No.19856025
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>> No.19856029

>>19854787
>Violence is Aryan.
Come on now

>> No.19856216

>>19855067
>This book is a reasoned negation of the Ten Commandments–the Golden Rule–the Sermon on the Mount–Republican Principles–Christian Principles–and "Principles" in general. It proclaims upon scientific evolutionary grounds, the unlimited absolutism of Might, and asserts that cut-and-dried moral codes are crude and immoral inventions, promotive of vice and vassalage.
>It's just not the Aryan way of doing things. Less noble.

>> No.19856239

>>19856025
Lmao that's great. A problem I have with a lot of right-wing commentators is instead of desiring to be aristocrats, they idolize peasants or "hard workers" too much.

>> No.19856841

>>19854536
>grow out
most people surrender to life's hardships and after they realize might makes right, they will slowly try to refute this irrefutable fact out of a cope for their patheticness.

>> No.19856851

>>19854572
Those that could become the right mighty are held back by their altruism. The weak Jew takes advantage of this

>> No.19856947

>>19856025
This image was made by someone living off EI. At the same time, I despise wagies like no other.

>> No.19857218

>>19855355
I think that "Evil strawman theory fiction" is a genre that should make a come back.

>> No.19857325

The Natural World Is A World Of War
The Natural Law Is Tooth And Claw
All Else Is Error

>> No.19857337

the best part is you can't argue with it. even if your argument was logically sound, I'd bash your head in with a rock. might is right, brainlet.

MiR > everything

>> No.19857379

>>19854521
Without Paul the apostle, no one would have every successfully subverted the concept of "might is right." He creates a shockwave through history that changed the world and caused the dominant Roman ethos to be turned on it's head.