/lit/ - Literature

[Anonymous No.20089765]

Philosophy bros, we got too cocky...

[Anonymous No.20089780]

Every single one of those people in the comment section is dead weight. Their opinions are inconsequential to me. I am 100% serious.

[Anonymous No.20089837]

>450k in debt
literally how?

[Anonymous No.20089858]

>>20089780
The actual view expressed is reasonable but the way they do it makes it clear that they are coping retards who couldn't succeed in school. Also, trade schooling is not that common, I don't think almost any of these people have done it. They're just regurgitating a silly meme.

[Anonymous No.20089871]

>>20089837
took out loans for all his schooling, PhD program wasn't funded, hasn't paid back any of his loans or at least only a minimal amount, is probably accruing around 7.5% interest yearly, and he's 36 now. That's completely understandable. If he had like 250k in debt at the end of his education he'd be there no problem

[Anonymous No.20089881]

>>20089837
>>20089871
It's almost definitely not true. Note that it was posted at the height of the 2016 election, when the whole 'dunk on the liberal nerds' meme was popular.

At 36 and with any kind of degree, he could at least get some job as an office lackey. The idea that he would actually work in fast food is ridiculous and blows the cover of this larp.

[Anonymous No.20089883]

>>20089780
They're firing off goofy memes that the uneducated always fire off as a form of cope. It's a kind of socially ritualized affirmation of their own ignorance.

[Anonymous No.20089886]

>>20089780
This, these people really believe that philosophy, the history of thought, the discoveries that led to math, engineering, science, and the ethics that form the laws of their land is just some hippy, dippy new age non-area of study, akin to astrology. These are the people who'd rather have us live in a machine society where the only rule of the land should be progress for the sake of progress and economic monarchy where we all praise the rich for being stellar examples of humanity, looking to them as a way out of our endless squalor while some how holding the idea they work harder than us as we have to break OSHA standards just to have time to go home and see our wives while they fuck school children in Mar-a-Lago. There really is a chance that some actually unique perspective and knowledge might die with this doctorate working wageslave jobs, and all those parasites care about is telling him off to seem clever and lauding themselves as salt of the Earth industrial men who more likely than not also work unfufilling jobs, but have just tricked themselves into forgetting any passion they might of had for real life, art, love, or anything other than a dirty piece of green paper.

[Anonymous No.20089891]

>>20089765
Imagine going to university to learn how to think, lol, lmao even.

[Anonymous No.20089892]

>>20089780
Philosophers are dead weight. Any dumbass who experiences hardship in their life becomes as good a philosopher as any when they elect not to kill themselves. You fags are the definition of useless.

[Anonymous No.20089896]

>>20089892
Yeah, no. The boomers I know who dealt with hardship are completely braindead, they've lost all their energy and courage.

It's not like you're even out of high school, anyway.

[Anonymous No.20089898]

Im one of those regretful nomads who transitioned from history to CS mid their first semester, and while my job is nothing if not dull, i have always in front of me the example of my friend who stayed there till the bitter end.

Now he was someone who lived his life the way your repents told you to live yours. He did all the clubs, played piano, studied hard, never touched drugs, got some smarty pants superachiever award upon finishing school, and then, being able to go anywhere he wanted to, and do anything with a scholarship to boot, he chose to make the first big boy independent decision of his life and go study history, against his mothers will that he become a doctor or something.
Well he's graduated with honors and probably could have gotten a goof job somewhere if not for the rotten luck of his bad health which put him out of commission for something like 5 - 6 years where he couldn't even get out of bed most days. ( We spent all that time playing eve together, have been extremely close ever since.)
Anyway, these days with the illness (mostly) over with and real life resumed he's been unable to find a job, even in academia, for like 3 years now, and has been doing brain dead translating work to make ends meet.

So there! let that be a cautionary warning to all you fucker with dreams and whatnot.

[Anonymous No.20089909]

>>20089898
didn't ask, faggot

[Anonymous No.20089918]

>>20089765
>450k in debt
Literally just declare bankruptcy at that point, and work your way back. Am I wrong?

[Anonymous No.20089926]

>>20089898
If he studied engineering, and after uni did nothing for 5 years, he would be in the same place retard.

[Anonymous No.20089928]

>>20089918
Student debt is exempted from bankruptcy proceedings. You have to pay it back no matter what so long as you are still alive and not a quadriplegic.

[Anonymous No.20089931]

>>20089918
Because he is a human, not a company. If he has enough money to stay alive, he cannot be bankrupt. He becomes bankrupt only when he dies.

[Anonymous No.20089933]

>>20089898
So the moral of the story is not to get a permanently disabling illness, amazing.

[Anonymous No.20089935]

>>20089765
I've been there. Literally just go abroad and teach English, which anyone can do, and then use that as a resume start for an office job on your return.

Like a shitty data analyst pencil-pushing office job. Then use that as experience for a higher-paying job elsewhere, and THIS is where he can start leveraging the PhD as part of his expertise. This whole process will probably take him about 10 years but it can be done. He just has to abandon the universities and get some non-fast-food jobs on his resume. Teaching English abroad is the easiest barrier to entry for this that I'm aware of.

It's easy to leverage "teaching skills" as a "business communication and managerial experience" in an interview (I know because I've done it). You just have to sound very passionate.

[Anonymous No.20089937]

>>20089931
You don't understand the concept at all.

[Anonymous No.20089948]

>>20089935
Maybe he doesn't know a second language.

[Anonymous No.20089956]

>>20089935
In 10 years he can be making 100k+ and potentially starting a family but he has to start calling every single office in the country (literally thousands) and email the directors directly explaining that he would be a good fit.

A lot of directors in offices have 5-10 hiring managers beneath them, so when you email them your resume, they forward to whichever hiring managers are actively hiring in that company. The problem a lot of people face with cold-emailing for a job (because applying online is useless as we know) is that they email associates and entry-level people thinking they're on the same level so this is their "in". But those emails just get ignored because nobody trusts entry-level analysts or associates. The trick is to email these directors who have power and assert yourself so they pass your info down.

[Anonymous No.20089965]

>>20089948
You don't need a second language to teach English. Almost none of the teachers abroad do. What gave you that impression? It's a "free job" for anyone who can speak English and went to college, but it's easy to leverage for transitioning to an office job. Putting fast-food worker on your resume is not.

[Anonymous No.20089969]

>>20089965
>>20089948
When I taught English in Korea, I happened to speak Korean but I was told that if I spoke any Korean to the students I could be fired. They want the foreign teachers to speak English and only English at all times. Maybe other countries are different.

[Anonymous No.20089979]

>>20089896
Yeah, yeah. Cope harder, doorstop-fucker.

[Anonymous No.20089992]

In the US there is a de facto class system but not a de jure class system. The biggest signifier of the largest and most obvious schism is college education. For a period between the 1940's until I would say around the 1990's there were two phenomena that happened simultaneously, that being the mass availability and affordability of college education for most, and the economic elevation of unskilled blue collar labor (think factory jobs) to a point where it could provide a similar quality of life to that of a skilled tradesman or an educated professional. In a time where almost anyone could get a college degree cheaply it wasn't obvious that you needed one. Since the near elimination of factory jobs in the US, runaway inflation of tuition, and stagnating wages happened all at once it created a scenario where the economic situation was vastly different than what had existed within living memory. As college education became a complex financial proposition fraught with risk the kind of unskilled blue collar jobs that afforded a middle class lifestyle were eliminated.

What you're seeing now is from the educated and the uneducated alike is an attempt at framing this. The uneducated do not want to accept that the skilled trades have a limited capacity to absorb labor and those organizations are unlikely to voluntarily saturate their own labor markets, and that the economic situation for them is getting worse and worse. Like most people they do not want to significantly change their way of life, and so they criticize the more educated who have not stranded themselves upon the same sinking barge (unskilled wages).

By contrast the educated are in stark competition with one another based entirely around a set of choices regarding a singular big ticket purchase (tuition), and the relative social and economic returns on that choice. The nuance is lost to most outsiders, who only want to point out the extreme ends of the spectrum that seem to result in costly failure and social humiliation.

tl;dr: You're seeing soft class boundaries harden as economic and social desperation flare up.

[Anonymous No.20090021]

>>20089765
Who the fuck is Husserl?

[Anonymous No.20090037]

>>20090021
I still don't know exactly, but at least Husserl had a one who try to understand him. Not like you.

[Anonymous No.20090048]

>>20089992
>By contrast the educated are in stark competition with one another based entirely around a set of choices regarding a singular big ticket purchase (tuition)
My parents paid my tuition in full and I have kids for whom I already have the money saved to do exactly the same. I have never heard people I work with talk about college loans or paying off tuition, ever, and I graduated in 2017 so still this generation.

[Anonymous No.20090055]

>>20090037
Maybe there's a joke in OP's LARP about the lifestyle of Husserl that we're all missing.

[Anonymous No.20090060]

>>20090021
A Jew. Imagine doing your PhD in Jewish thought and paying $450k for it lmao

[Anonymous No.20090067]

>>20090048
You're part of the segment of the educated population that can afford to do this. Your conflict is among your own class. You can afford, and your parents could afford, to purchase education, and they chose to purchase yours. Mine did the same. We're part of a different branch than the "cancel student loans" crowd, who now want their own purchase subsidized.

[Anonymous No.20090097]

>>20089992
Cope. College is quite cheap, it looks expensive on paper but they give out a bunch of scholarships. It's sort of like a store advertising a really high MSRP but a 'special price just for today' so the deal looks better and more urgent.

But if you're part of the educational dregs and can't get any scholarships then you shouldn't be going to college.

[Anonymous No.20090106]

>>20090067
>>20090048
I feel like neither of you get the idea. College isn't just 'college', you need a graduate degree to really make use of your education. Graduate degrees cost more money and very few people can afford to cover that for their kids.

[Anonymous No.20090107]

>>20090048
>My parents paid my tuition in full
dude come on, are you minimally self-aware here

[Anonymous No.20090110]

>>20089969
I see. In America, most everybody who teaches a language also speaks English.

[Anonymous No.20090115]

>>20090097
Scholarships functionally don't exist anymore. You're way behind the times.

>>20090106
For some disciplines, but not for a lot of them. What you're talking about generally exacerbates the problem or expands it, but I've got the essence of the thing.

[Anonymous No.20090127]

>>20090115
>Scholarships functionally don't exist anymore. You're way behind the times.
This is absolute bullshit. I got a full ride to college back in 2017 just by having good test scores.

[Anonymous No.20090129]

>>20090106
A degree from something like finance, economics, CS, or STEM are essentially interchangeable for most middle-class office jobs. College is just "college". Anything specialized that requires graduate degrees (medical, lawyer, tenured professor) will make greater use of one's education, but at a higher cost. You're right.

Basically you stop being useful to society once you pass a certain level of basic knowledge, and if you want to learn more than that level you need to cover your own expensive costs.

[Anonymous No.20090134]

>>20090127
>>20090048
Man, for /lit/ posters some of you people live incredibly unexamined lives.

[Anonymous No.20090140]

>>20090129
>economics
Definitely not. There are barely jobs for economists at all, let alone without graduate degrees.

[Anonymous No.20090141]

>>20090134
That's par for the course sadly.
System works for me so it can't be wrong!

[Anonymous No.20090143]

>>20090134
use your words, little boy

[Anonymous No.20090145]

>>20090134
>>20090141
>muh oppressive system
For /lit/ posters you are incredibly homosexuals

[Anonymous No.20090165]

>>20090145
That tranny actually tried to tell me that I'm part of the out of touch bourgeois because I got merit-based scholarships by not being a retard (as did almost everyone I knew).

[Anonymous No.20090167]

What should I study in if I am good at math, a competent reader and writer, have no moral qualms or idealistic goals, incurably autistic socially and want to make decent money without being bothered by other people too much.

[Anonymous No.20090171]

>>20089992
>nobody has actually disputed the main claims here
>cherry picking non-core parts of the argument and attacking them based on personal anecdote as in >>20090048 and >>20090097

I swear the quality of posts on this board have gone downhill. As much as I hated the smug pseuds of old /lit/ they would make better arguments than this.

>>20090145
I don't consider a return to historical norms of unskilled labor being poorly paid and education being a privilege tied to social class to be an oppressive system. It only appears as such due to the norm being a radical historical deviation for most of living memory.

[Anonymous No.20090172]

>>20090167
There's way more to it. Also, you have to be 18 to post here.

[Anonymous No.20090182]

>>20090171
Yeah because only retards bothered to read your post.

[Anonymous No.20090185]

>>20090171
No one is going to try to 'le deboonk' generic sadposting about boomers having it better than us. I just skim over that shit, we've all seen it thousands of times.

[Anonymous No.20090191]

>>20090165
In the US it's almost impossible to get a scholarship if you're a white male. Almost all of them are geared towards some kind of minority shit.

[Anonymous No.20090200]

>>20090185
That's not what I posted, but that may be your level of reading comprehension.

[Anonymous No.20090208]

>newfriends don't know this story was the work of /lit/s greatest fiction writer

[Anonymous No.20090212]

>>20090191
It's clear that (if you're not trolling) that you're an underage retard who is getting all of his information from /pol/. There are an abundance of merit-based scholarships. I got even more than that one, and now that I'm going off to law school I'm getting more (and I'm a white male without any recognized financial hardship).

[Anonymous No.20090224]

>>20090200
>write some random autism that may as well be from a textbot picking from /pol/ sadposts
>sperg out and blame everyone else when no one wants to thoroughly respond to its alleged point

[Anonymous No.20090231]

>>20090212
>muh /pol/
Here's a list my friend sent me https://www.msudenver.edu/wp-content/uploads/2021/06/External-Scholarship-List-Web-Version.pdf

You're a retard

[Anonymous No.20090243]

>>20090212
>t.

[Anonymous No.20090252]

>>20090171
I read the post and I can't disagree, you're correct. Everyone rushes to defend the system because there are ways to succeed within it, without acknowledging that our society is actively getting worse. We're wealthier than ever but the middle class is crumbling, if you go to university for any degree besides a tech degree or to become a lawyer/doctor/what-have-you you're getting into massive debt for no reason. The university system itself feels like a sinking ship where humanities departments are getting shuttered left and right because as an institution it's not sustainable anymore.

[Anonymous No.20090255]

>>20090224
>>20090243
embarrassing

[Anonymous No.20090262]

>lol learn a trade
>le trades
Everyone who says this has never follow their own advice.

[Anonymous No.20090276]

>>20090231
>my list that I don't understand means your experience of literally getting paid to go to college doesn't count
Pathetic cope. You know I'm right about this and but you aren't emotionally prepared to abandon this defense of your ego.

My state offered automatic full rides for anyone who fulfilled objective requirements (high test scores, decent GPA, minimal amount of community service) and reasonably large 2nd-tier scholarships for midwits who got lower scores. Also college in my state only costs like $6000 a year, so you really don't even need scholarships if you get a real job after you graduate.

[Anonymous No.20090279]

>>20090276
>My state
>in my state
ok, cool anecdote i guess

[Anonymous No.20090281]

>>20090252
>Everyone rushes to defend the system
No one is "defending the system" like they're emotionally attached to it, everyone here knows that society is shit right now, it's a matter of setting this retard straight on specific points.

[Anonymous No.20090287]

>>20090279
Yours almost definitely has something similar but you've made no effort to look into it. And if it doesn't, move. Fucking loser.

[Anonymous No.20090290]

>>20090231
There is a national financial aid system that you can get from filing every year on your parents income that is available for everyone. Also in my state there is a merit based scholarship based on your highschool gpa.

[Anonymous No.20090292]

>>20090276
>muh experience
I'm telling you it's hard for white males to get scholarships. I don't care about your experience retard.

[Anonymous No.20090298]

>>20090140
I didn't say for economists. I said for people with an economics degree. I hire people with economics degrees every year. That's the point I was trying to make. I work for a fairly well-known financial institution. As long as your degree is not a meme field, it's all the same to us. There are other specific things we look for, yes, but regarding the degree itself economics, CS, math, physics, etc. are all the fucking same.

Now reconcile these excel worksheets by the end of the day and run my models please.

[Anonymous No.20090301]

>>20090298
>Now reconcile these excel worksheets by the end of the day and run my models please.
No, I'm not one of these coping autists.

[Anonymous No.20090313]

>>20090140
College is college unless you're insistent on doing a job which requires a specific educational field.
MOST upper-middle-class jobs do not. You get a non-meme degree and then you're as good at reading Excel workbooks as anyone else with a non-meme degree. Doesn't matter if it's in economics, physics, or whatever else.

Enjoy your mid-6 figure salary.

[Anonymous No.20090315]

>>20090292
>I'm telling you its hard got white males to get scholarships
>I don't care about your experience as a white male who easily several scholarships and knows others who did the same
you are honestly a born loser

[Anonymous No.20090325]

>>20090313
why did you feel the need to write out a second response to this saying the same thing in different words? Neurotic spic

[Anonymous No.20090327]

>>20090298
Computer Science is a programming degree and a lot different from the other degrees you're talking about so I don't know why you include it. Computer Scientists are able to act independent and create their own products compared to the other degrees where you have to work for someone else.

[Anonymous No.20090329]

>>20090315
You really are a retard

[Anonymous No.20090333]

>>20090327
It's a larp. This is some hispanic kid in his sophomore year or something as a business major, and he couldn't recognize the memes for what they are.

[Anonymous No.20090335]

>>20090327
I listed it because I hire CS degrees as much an any other. Oh you can program? Cool, you're be extra valuable in X project. Oh, you can't? Well we could still use you in Y project.
As long as you can communicate well and fake passion you've got a good shot.

[Anonymous No.20090340]

>>20090329
this is genuinely pathetic

[Anonymous No.20090341]

>>20090335
>Oh you can program? Cool, you're be extra valuable in X project. Oh, you can't? Well we could still use you in Y project.
It doesn't work like this at all. We know you're just regurgitating from some silly self-help book you read or something. I'm sure you think this is actually good advice but it's simply not accurate.

[Anonymous No.20090342]

>>20090335
What are you trying to communicate here? You can go check the average salary of each major on google like right now?

[Anonymous No.20090343]

>>20089765
if he dies a wise man or merely a person who made a heroic sacrifice in persuit of knowledge it was worth it! Go away if you're one of those to robotically reiterate he should have done a STEM degree or it's his own fault to be so dumb to chose philosophy. Their kind is way too numerous and once they die with their bags filled they might see why they should have rather studied philosophy.

[Anonymous No.20090347]

>>20090060
>be goy
>study chosen
>thinks Jews would let a goy teach about a chosen

He’s naive

[Anonymous No.20090351]

>>20090342
This. He actually tried to say that having a soft studies bachelor's degree could get you mid 6 figures typing on a computer all day as part of the rank-and-file, which is absurd.

[Anonymous No.20090356]

>>20090343
Yeah that's cute but the story is clearly not real

[Anonymous No.20090362]

>>20090343
>who made a heroic sacrifice in persuit of knowledge
the only people who can do this are ones with rich parents to support their studies. you can't make achievements in the field without investments. Leave your passion as your hobby.

[Anonymous No.20090367]

>>20090362
Retarded statement. In this model, the guy clearly did it without rich parents, hence the debt.

[Anonymous No.20090387]

>>20090362
I agree that's the more practical and even preferable path to take but I'd like to point at the opposite case that exists more than many people are aware: men you devoted their entire life to aquire money and lie on their death beds spiritually impoverished.

Unfortunately this kind of person tends to laugh at this kind of comment and is thus doomed to suffer misery on his deathbed and possibly in the afterlife.

[Anonymous No.20090390]

>>20089886
>>20089883
Borrowing 450k to do this is the retarded part, especially since you can do most of it for free. You're paying for someone to force feed you philosophical ideas instead of thinking for yourself. If you're already rich fine, do what you want with your money. But this is the dumbest way to go about learning philosphy it's cringe as hell. Go to the library and read a book it's free for God's sake.

[Anonymous No.20090391]

>I have sacrificed bleed, and vowed to my gods.
>and now that I have their blessing, surely another dingansich weltanshaung will just fall into my lap like the college application I filled out.

seriously
post grad degrees are most status fucker bullshit.
bougey badges of being any form of shitty ass "-crat".

this guy seriously fucked up by going to college in the first place instead of starting some sort of publishing company.
this guy got a doctorate in "thinking for yourself" and he doesn't know what the fuck to do.
that says more about the student than the field desu.
hes just one of those people that hope it would pann out it the end without actually applying himself to anything other than graduate programs.
he has no ideas other than the ones he reads.
and reading has not been a valuble or marketable skill.
i mean all you really need to know is arithmatic.
you dont even need to conjugate anymore.

all these philosopher hope to become the next socratese and eveyone will just flock to them like jesus to ehar what they have to say.
but it dont make you national hero to get a phD in philosophy.

[Anonymous No.20090400]

>>20090387
>>20090390
it's not a real thing, you morons

[Anonymous No.20090438]

>>20090391
>instead of going to college you should just start a successful company at 18!
blows my mind that people try to say this shit. You're probably joking but I've heard others who mean it.

[Anonymous No.20090454]

>>20090438
>oh boy! I can't wait to take on debt and learn about the size of my professors asshole just so that one day corporate overlords will look upon me and bless me with a decent 401k and a chance to spend summers in southern france.

im going to go to school to learn creative writing without having anything published.
Im going to school to learn art without ever having set up a studio.

[Anonymous No.20090491]

>>20090298
>excel worksheets

[Anonymous No.20090546]

>>20090454
I know you're a retard but the point was not that hard to understand. You can't just snap your fingers and start a company, you have nothing to work with.

[Anonymous No.20090552]

>>20090491
It was a larp, I called him out and he abandoned ship.

[Anonymous No.20090567]

my nigga don't need to repay his 450k$ debt he finna bout to eideticly reduce it to noema

[Anonymous No.20090605]

>>20090546
you can go to legal zoom right now and file a non profit, b or s corp and an llc.

rich oligarch create businesses when they are bored.

quit putting abstract concepts on a pedestal.
their not gods.
they are game pieces we use to play our stupid games.

[Anonymous No.20090606]

>>20089765
Fucking kek.

[Anonymous No.20090622]

the original thread was based as fuck
>>/lit/thread/S8154777#p8158076

[Anonymous No.20090628]

>>20090605
Establishing the legal framework for a business is not the same as running a business.

[Anonymous No.20090642]

>>20089935
>Literally just go abroad and teach English
But English is a second language for me, nobody would take me as a teacher because I'm an ESL, just like them, and not a native speaker.

[Anonymous No.20090672]

>>20090390
The retarded part is specialising in husserl kek

[Anonymous No.20090677]

>>20090628
depends on what you think the nessecary amount to establish a legal framework would be.
i mean if you're trying to scare me becuase "business takes effort". then you must take me for an agoraphobe, and you'd be pretty much right. But you aren't saying these things.
I am
that makes me doubly correct.
writing a senior thesis on critial theory frameworks of all the greeks that were more stupider and gayer than socratese takes effort.
perhaps it might be more fruitful if you put effort into running your business instead of taking classes between bouts of binge drinking and pedantic shit talking.

[Anonymous No.20090681]

>>20089765
>Literally any post mentioning university
>Instant moronic shitflinging all thread

works every time

[Anonymous No.20090692]

>>20089765
If this guy put together a crowdfunding campaign he'd probably get some help. The internet eats stuff like this up.

[Anonymous No.20090701]

>>20089898
you are fucking retarded

[Anonymous No.20090704]

>no one has pointed out that his 100 post anon
this board is dead

[Anonymous No.20090708]

>>20089898
Don't care. I am still going to study history.

[Anonymous No.20090713]

>>20090677
High effort bait

[Anonymous No.20090720]

>>20090704
What the fuck are you talking about?

[Anonymous No.20090732]

>actually going to college in 2022

[Anonymous No.20090742]

>>20090732
"""""""elite"""""""

[Anonymous No.20090746]

>>20090732
>college is the now a basic requirement to have a grown-up job instead of being something special
>therefore I will not go to college

[Anonymous No.20090760]

>>20090141
I can't work the system so it must be wrong!

[Anonymous No.20090762]

>>20090742
A university education is the primary way people rise in socio-economic status yes. Most people aren't born into trust funds like you.

[Anonymous No.20090767]

>>20090760
He can, he's just not trying. He obviously has done no research on merit-based scholarships.

[Anonymous No.20090784]

>>20090732
>buying into the notion of elite overproduction as a contemporary phenomenon
>preferring to be a commoner rather than a potential elite or counter-elite during the period of projected social instability
>thinking that this will spare you during a period of turbulence
>using logic that re-frames your alleged misgivings of elite institutions to mere cowardice

One of the most succinct self owns I've seen in a while, because even if you're correct you have merely recast yourself in the role of both intellectual and physical coward.

[Anonymous No.20090799]

>>20089765
Anybody have link to original thread? I would love to read it

[Anonymous No.20090803]

I was this retard in my mid twenties and then decided to get into tech and built a career for myself. I really don't understand how people supposedly smart enough to do a phd in philosophy about some obscure topic don't understand they can just move right into tech and have 2-3 remote jobs, work 6 hours a day and make multiple six figures and just pay everything off. There has never been a better time. If working at wendys and the bookstore is depressing at 36, it'll be even worse at 46. I love philosophy but stopped my third year and went back and completed a cs degree, made stacks, and now I'm looking at philosophy programs for my own personal enrichment. Lord knows it won't pay the bills or for the bitch.

[Anonymous No.20090807]

>>20090784
Imagine defending an institution that produces pic related.

The entire institution only exists to produce resentful class strivers who will spend summers burning down police stations and Targets if they don't get a sinecure job that pays them 100k a year for doing nothing.

Why would I volunteer to be a part of this parasitical class? I'm not fucking stupid.

[Anonymous No.20090816]

>followed my dreams and majored in philosophy
>now have a cushy (25-30 hours a week) 75k euros a year job teaching, primarily medical students
>forged lifelong friendships with extremely intelligent, knowledgeable, ambitious and interesting people while studying (as opposed to being surrounded by bugmen) with whom I can discuss philosophy, art and literature
>I am literally living the literary lifestyle that I dreamily shitposted about here in 2014

God damn I love being European, not being crushed under the yoke of peonage and usury.

Also, the OP is a LARP. Northwestern would publish his autistic biography in a heartbeat, and Husserl scholarship gets funding at the drop of a hat in Europe, and furthermore, has been leveraged into interdisciplinary studies in psychiatry, psychology, sociology, political science and cognitive science for interdisciplinary projects that get funding thrown at it on buzzwords alone.

Would be way more believable if it was yet another scholar on German Idealism.

[Anonymous No.20090825]

>>20090807
I don't know where to begin stating how retarded this is
>one class somewhere has a silly name
>therefore all higher education is wrong

>why would I choose to be a parasite instead of working for the benefit of parasites?

[Anonymous No.20090837]

>>20090807
Ah, you're one of that breed of resentful pseud. I'm amazed at how readily your kind have been produced via the internet.

[Anonymous No.20090845]

>>20090825
Stop being naive you dumb nigger. There's tons of useless articles being published in academia that are only published for rubberstamping reasons so they can continue parasitical economic existence.

[Anonymous No.20090850]

>>20090807
>imagine defending the existence of universities
I really don't get how people can end up being this simpleminded and just plain dumb. Just about everything in our society in some way stems from the institution of higher education, having some complaint about the current state of it does not work as a reason for abandoning it entirely.

What else are you suggesting, that we all either work at McDonalds or fix air conditioners? Who is going to run these companies and design these products?

[Anonymous No.20090852]

>It's another narcissism-fueled cope thread
yay

[Anonymous No.20090855]

>>20090845
Yeah, so? They get paid for them by your tax dollars (or they would be, if you weren't 15 years old). They win, you lose.

[Anonymous No.20090864]

>>20090852
The part that gets me is you almost never hear anyone here arrogantly brag about having a degree, these faggots are just so angry about their situation that they hear us doing it in their heads anyway and rant about how superior we think we are.

[Anonymous No.20090878]

>>20090807
If you weren't an uneducated retard you would see the obvious logic to making that article
>we are working on climate change issues
>we have a lot of blue haired feminists hanging around the university
>lets find a way to get them motivated to help instead of sitting around complaining about the pay gap

[Anonymous No.20090889]

>>20089765
>learn a trade
80 IQ nigger cattle response

[Anonymous No.20090890]

>>20090850
you do realize that we at the height of the information age.
that we are at a moment on step closer to the anarcho/ libertarian untopia.
like have you noticed how decentralization has been gaining alot of attention, and a while lot of resistence?

in the past intellectual circles were hearded by universities.
but now we have shit like 4chan where random schmoos can gather and talk about the most depressing themes in books and conspire to vote in a movie star for president becuase their lives are so shit.
you use to have to go to harvard and yale in order to join a top tier think tank.
and you still do.
but these prestegious think tanks outsource alot of their understanding and solutions to random ass people in online chat forums.

[Anonymous No.20090893]

>>20090864
when was the last time you ever heard anyone brag about getting degree that wasn't one of your neices or nephews graduation party?
everyone laments what finally getting that degree means.

[Anonymous No.20090894]

>>20090890
>but these prestegious think tanks outsource alot of their understanding and solutions to random ass people in online chat forums.
and you help them for free

[Anonymous No.20090909]

>>20090893
People just don't brag about that, it's bad manners. The only people I've ever seen do that were from the lower classes and didn't understand the greater context of college, they thought it was the same class of achievement as having a gold chain or whatever other nigger nonsense.
>everyone laments what finally getting that degree means.
If this is what you think, then don't complain about not having a degree.

[Anonymous No.20090914]

>>20090894
every shit post I make for free is one step closer to bringing the bougie cunts under the guillotine.
these faggots can't not help but leap at the value and savings they make by turning my shitposts into diamonds.

[Anonymous No.20090917]

>>20090914
okay then stop whining about it, faggot

[Anonymous No.20090920]

>>20090890
>anarcho/ libertarian untopia
Man. It's so sad that you think letting pseuds, glowies, and morons on 4chan do your thinking for you is a step towards a decentralized utopia.

[Anonymous No.20090922]

>>20090878
I don't care if it has an internal economic logic, they are economic parasites who live off of everyone else and produce either nothing of value or just plain ideological propaganda. The concept of the university as it currently exists needs to be destroyed.

[Anonymous No.20090931]

>>20090922
>I don't care if it has an internal economic logic
They don't care what you think either, they're still getting your tax money from your job at McDonalds. How do you expect to successfully stop them as an 85 IQ wagie? I know it's hard for you, but try using your brain once in a while.

[Anonymous No.20090932]

>>20090909
they let fake ass globohomo podcat hosts introduce them as such.
they don't brag.
they get others to do it for them.
just throwing out "I have a post graduate degree" to establish your credibililty use to mean something more than it does now.

[Anonymous No.20090936]

>>20090914
>I'm too scared to join the counterelite because of social instability
>also I think my 4chan shitposting will result in mass political purges of the bourgeois

Intellectually you're the retarded hillbilly cousin of the blue haired non-binary campus marxist caricatures that you hate.

[Anonymous No.20090953]

>>20090917
>how about you shut the fuck up

>>20090920
we live in a sad world friend.
you never see a clown cry over his grease paint.

[Anonymous No.20090955]

>>20090932
What it means now is it'll make you spend your whole evening crying about how 'totally not jealous' you are

[Anonymous No.20090959]

>>20089765
What a garbage post. Absolute fucking garbage. The actual punchline of the joke is cropped out. The first response is from an anon asking if he wants to play CS, and he responds that the "only plays Pharaoh (1999)".

Piss poor post

[Anonymous No.20090960]

>>20090953
You don't even know how to greentext and are obviously a newfag from reddit, typical of someone who has such an aggrandized view of 4chan.

[Anonymous No.20090961]

>>20090936
i like how you have to paint characitures of thing you hate in your head in order to defeat them.

[Anonymous No.20090971]

>>20090955
the fact that you project feeling of jelousy on me only proves me right that these post graduate degrees are status symbols.
your flight was beautiful while it lasted icarus.

[Anonymous No.20090972]

>>20090931
>How do you expect to successfully stop them as an 85 IQ wagie?

Pretty simple. Vote for someone like Orban in Hungary who just plain abolished gender studies in all the universities in the entire country. He didn't say gender studies was illegal, he simply said they no longer get public money.

[Anonymous No.20090973]

>>20090961
>characitures
He literally spelled it right in front of you and you still fucked it up this hard. You'll never make it in college but you really should go back and get your GED. It'll take some time but I'm sure you can pass with some help.

[Anonymous No.20090975]

>>20090960
>has to resort to ad hominem tactics.

[Anonymous No.20090978]

>>20090971
my jealous of being someone who doesn't have a degree?

[Anonymous No.20090982]

>>20090973
i dont care.
you still understood what I meant.
and that bare neccisity when dealing intellectual egos.

[Anonymous No.20090987]

>>20090972
So your plan is to cry for years on end and then cast your useless vote for the next Trump-wannabe (who almost definitely has a college degree), brilliant.

[Anonymous No.20090990]

>>20090978
that you'd enterian the idea that id be jelous of you having a shit degree rapidly loosing value in todays market.

[Anonymous No.20090995]

>>20090982
>and that bare neccisity when dealing intellectual egos.
And now it's gotten so low quality that I don't understand

[Anonymous No.20091001]

>>20090990
My jealousy "that you'd enterian the idea that id be jelous of you having a shit degree rapidly loosing value in todays market."?

[Anonymous No.20091003]

>>20089765
Uneducatedsisters...

[Anonymous No.20091005]

>>20090995
that part didnt matter

[Anonymous No.20091012]

>>20090987
At least I know who my political enemies are, and I will do everything in my power to fuck them over the rest of my life.

But keep being a smug cunt you faggot.

[Anonymous No.20091015]

>>20091005
I agree, as nothing you do will ever matter.

[Anonymous No.20091016]

>>20090167
COBOL, Ada, Verilog programmer

[Anonymous No.20091019]

>>20091003
your reasoning is so fucking childish.
like omg theres more competition.
might as well give up.
what a fag.
if only knowing how to do a trade skill was as valuble as knowing how many times Siszek jacked on his students chests with mask of Lacan.

[Anonymous No.20091020]

>>20091012
>and I will do everything in my power to fuck them over the rest of my life.
so you'll take a little longer getting their order out so their fries are cold

[Anonymous No.20091026]

>>20091019
You don't have a trade skill, mate. You don't seem to have any skills at all.

[Anonymous No.20091027]

>>20091001
you contribute nothing to this thread.
you just wanted something smarter to say than "bump"

[Anonymous No.20091033]

>>20091027
Not him but you clearly don't get what "projection" is if you didn't get what he was saying

[Anonymous No.20091034]

>>20091027
You've been spouting teenage nonsense in broken english. I couldn't contribute less than you if I tried.

[Anonymous No.20091035]

>>20091015
if affecting you doesn't matter than what does that say about you?
>>20091026
way to go engaging with a faceless block of text.
you got your autism points.

[Anonymous No.20091036]

>>20091019
Your work ethic isn't going to overcome offshoring and automation.

[Anonymous No.20091037]

>>20091020
Literally you right now. Seething shitlib. Go back to your fucking useless humanities department.

[Anonymous No.20091040]

>>20090807
>buying the feminist dance theory meme
You know like 85% of the student body is still there for job training? Universities are filled with premeds, engineers, business school types, etc. Your local gender studies department probably consists of six faculty

[Anonymous No.20091044]

>>20091037
I don't need to support bernie because my degree is already paid for, but maybe if you get all your friends to vote for him he'll finally give you your free ticket to big boy school like you've been dreaming.

[Anonymous No.20091049]

>>20091033
>i disagree
i like how everyone like to make minimum nessicary shitpoist just to maintain some semblence of validity.
>>20091034
and yet the only flaws you can lewy against my shit is it grammatical syntax.
its just more creative ways for ad homienm attacks.
you don't suprise me at all that univerisites just churn out soulless rehtoricians and sophists

[Anonymous No.20091057]

>>20090816
Your country will literally not survive the next 100 years, enjoy it while it lasts.

[Anonymous No.20091061]

>>20091036
OMG dude like
offshoring and automation
how can my simple mind grasp such things
sure only demigods would have powers to wield such things.

[Anonymous No.20091064]

>>20091049
>i like how everyone like to make minimum nessicary shitpoist

[Anonymous No.20091066]

>drops near half a million on a degree with no employable skills

what goes through someone's head when they go to school for a hobby?

[Anonymous No.20091068]

>>20091061
>how can my simple mind grasp such things
pretty fair question in general

[Anonymous No.20091072]

>>20091044
>my degree is already paid for

You didn't have to tell anyone that, your seething ruling class condescension could be read in your first posts.

[Anonymous No.20091074]

>>20091066
"I am part of a fictional post to be used for upvotes on r/4chan"

[Anonymous No.20091079]

>>20091072
I'm glad you noticed

[Anonymous No.20091082]

>>20090807
Cut off the infinite government money gravy train and most of this shit goes away. The only reason tuitions rise is because they know they can raise them and people will pay them

The US Government is never going to let this bubble pop nor will it give you assistance

[Anonymous No.20091095]

>>20089886
Yeah it can't really be surmised better than this, and the hilarious part is that this attitude also applies even at universities full of these "hippy dippy new age studies", I'm doing philosophy and the amount of sociology, politics or history students that scoff when you tell them that is astonishing, as though they genuinely believe their subjects have nothing to do with philosophy.

[Anonymous No.20091101]

>>20091082
It might go away, but at least those fucking parasites have to go beg Jeff Bezos for the money instead of stealing it from the people.

[Anonymous No.20091236]

>>20089898
You can't condition your life plans to a surprising illness.

[Anonymous No.20091243]

>>20090347
Yeah, now it makes sense why he didn't make it.

[Anonymous No.20091275]

thing about being a phd is you're not supposed to be that focused on one thing. guy needs to show he can diversify and teach all the basic classes as well

[Anonymous No.20091288]

>>20090341
>>20090342
I fucking hire people that make 6-figure salaries and I work on a computer all day without programming. I was just giving you advice from my own experience.
>It's simply not accurate
It was my experience though. I hire people with and without CS degrees because this is a financial consulting position, not strictly a programmer. If you can program we have X projects to work on and if you can't we have Y projects. I'm just telling you what my company does. Maybe other places are different then, but my experience is not a larp.

[Anonymous No.20091299]

>>20089780
You're such a 110 iq snowflake, literally read a few philosophers on your own and I just saved 3 years and tens of thousands of college money you mindlessly paid for. You're a drone if you need a fucking philosophy study to understand it.

[Anonymous No.20091301]

>>20089898
>Did nothing for 5-6 years
>Why won't anyone hire me?
If he had the skills to use a computer for video games, then he could have worked. If he never planned the work again because he was literally dying, then he fucked up his plans.

[Anonymous No.20091309]

>>20091288
Companies simply do not hire random soft studies majors as lackeys for hundreds of thousands of dollars a year (I put it that way since I doubt you know what "6 figures" means"). It just doesn't happen. I've been in that position of having a non-specialized business degree right out of college and couldn't even get a job as an office bitch for 40k, I had to find other places to start and work my way up.

You are larping.

[Anonymous No.20091322]

>>20091275
I don't understand why people think a PhD is a general degree like a Bachelors. If you get a medical degree, you should seek out medical jobs. If you get a PhD you should try to become a professor. There are a FEW private jobs that require a PhD but they have their own unique set of requirements.

The real advice is if you want a certain job, go to conventions or call friends who are in that job and ask them exactly what they did and how they got it.
>>20091309
I work for Marsh McLennan, and you're wrong. I wasn't saying that they get a 6-figure salary right out of the gate but after a few years there it is certainly achievable. If you're applying online only and hoping to be hired though, you're an idiot. As I said in a previous post, email the directors of the office you want to work in directly and explain your skillset in 2-3 sentences. They will often forward your email to hiring managers who will reach out to you.
With regards to hiring, I have personally hired many analysts over the past 3 years and I don't care what degree they have because I look at a lot of things.

[Anonymous No.20091335]

>>20091322
>you're an idiot for applying for a job by applying for a job application
this society is so fucking horrendous lmao

[Anonymous No.20091342]

>>20091322
>applying for a job by filling out a job application makes you an idiot
this society needs purging

[Anonymous No.20091345]

>>20091322
Yeah, no. You're a larping spic who holds a meaningless desk position and likes to tell themselves that it involves actual power and brings business wisdom.
>just send emails to random people and they'll beg you to work for them as a retarded kid
lol

[Anonymous No.20091356]

>>20089898
>massive employment gap due to a debilitating illness
yeah, i'm sure it's his degree that's the issue. If he had got the most employable degree in the world he would still be struggling to find work after that. You can at least improve your chances if you do some volunteering/intern work during that time but 6 years is a long employment gap

[Anonymous No.20091357]

>>20091342
I've read articles written by people in his position (HR rubber-stamper) and they desperately try to act like they have all these secrets but they don't have shit. They just claim whatever autistic thing they personally do is the standard, like "in the real world people skip down to the bottom of your resume and read to the top, skipping every second line".

[Anonymous No.20091369]

>>20091322
>I wasn't saying that they get a 6-figure salary right out of the gate but after a few years there it is certainly achievable.
>I don't care what degree they have because I look at a lot of things.
What you're saying is you hire people with enough experience that their major doesn't matter (not fresh graduates), and start them out at middling pay and, like anyone, they accrue raises if they stick it out for years and/or get promotions. Amazing.

[Anonymous No.20091429]

>>20090224
>Oy vey, /pol/ack, go back to your containment board, where our hook-nosed shills work 24/7 to shut down any wrongthink!!
How about I stay here, and you hire more shills instead, you cheap fuck.

[Anonymous No.20091435]

>>20091335
>>20091342
I mean yeah. Take my advice and look up who the directors are at wherever you want to work and email them. This is assuming you're already out of college.
>>20091345
>as a retarded kid
Don't be a retarded kid? As I said above, I'm telling you what worked for me. It's how I got my current position.
>spic
I'm not even hispanic at all. Not sure where the poster above got this from.

[Anonymous No.20091443]

>>20091435
>Don't be a retarded kid?
By which you mean "have years of experience". When you have years of experience, the situation is totally different and these little system-gaming tricks are not needed in order to get a job.

[Anonymous No.20091444]

>>20089765
WTF? I thought you guys are making six figures writing manuals and translating textbooks???!!

[Anonymous No.20091449]

>>20091369
And yet I'm still getting called a larp.
But when I do hire fresh graduates, I look for internships. We have people in our office with degrees in electrical engineering, statistics, economics, and math just to name a few. Like I said, any non-meme degree is basically the same to me.

If I'm interviewing 2 people for a position and one has a degree in statistics and the other is a dual major of math and economics, but they both have internships in this field, I couldn't give a shit about what their majors were. I'm looking at communication, problem-solving, any sort of internships or programming experience, and any projects they're passionate about. I have been told explicitly to hire more "diverse" candidates though, but I'm not exactly happy about this since they also told me to hire a candidate "because he's black and we need to increase the diversity of our office." But that's a separate issue

[Anonymous No.20091457]

>>20091449
>because he's black and we need to increase the diversity of our office
What the fuck happened? Like yeah kikes marched through the institutions but there is seriously 0 resistance to this insanity anywhere?
WHAT THE FUCK IS GOING ON?

[Anonymous No.20091463]

>>20091449
You're acting like the point people are arguing against is "your major doesn't really matter as an office lackey", that part is basically true. You're a retard for thinking that you have some secret, profound insight on the hiring process for graduates when you're just saying "I shift through a bunch of applications until I find someone who has an impressive resume and fits the bill (including our autistic goals regarding race, apparently), and the winner gets a job and might get raises over the next few years". It is not useful or meaningful in any way.

[Anonymous No.20091468]

>>20091322
>If you get a PhD you should try to become a professor.
Working in academia is equivalent to taking a vow of poverty. I know this is at least as much the case for the humanities as for STEM but there's at least actual demand for STEM PhDs in industry

[Anonymous No.20091471]

>>20091457
We interviewed a black candidate from some organization that specifically promotes black candidates in this field, i.e. a recruiter, and the response from the 4 people who interviewed him was a lukewarm "no". I told this to the person overseeing our office's recruiting that year, a woman, and she basically said "we really need to develop a relationship with that organization. And we need to increase the diversity of the office." And then hired him anyway. Another person on our team who agreed with her decision messaged me directly saying "lol... imagine if he was white".

They are flat out hiring people based on race and there's nothing I can do. I'm not nearly high enough to make a difference on something like this, even if I do hire people each year and screen out any candidates I don't like.

[Anonymous No.20091473]

>>20091471
The white candidates should have just spammed more emails, desu.

[Anonymous No.20091479]

>>20091468
Only if you're one of these 'based crypto groypers' who won't shut the fuck up about sports cars. Having a middle class income is fine if you have a comfortable job that you enjoy.

[Anonymous No.20091480]

>>20091463
My whole advice is to email the directors, not to apply online. I'm not saying your resume won't matter, but also that having the wrong degree won't necessarily block you out of most office jobs. Sorry for getting side-tracked and sorry if this is all already very, very obvious to you.

[Anonymous No.20091487]

>>20091473
Yeah haha
But I know the system is fucked.
I've also sent a set of resumes of people I liked to be interviewed and had them sent back to me with the criticism that they "aren't diverse enough" and had to walk a manager through each one over a zoom call explaining exactly why I chose or didn't choose each candidate in detail (about 50 resumes).

If it was a white male she just said "that's fine I get it, you can skip this one."

I can only imagine it's similar elsewhere. This shit is so broken it's not even funny.

[Anonymous No.20091491]

>>20091480
It's not obvious, it's retarded. You might be in the sort of industry where people are really obsessive about things like "networking" (once again, meaning these are experienced candidates) but the vast majority of companies do not want their non-lackeys bombarded with emails asking for jobs. Often there wouldn't even be a system in place to facilitate it, they'd just direct you back to the job application.

Also I'm pretty sure you live in New York or somewhere else where 100k a year isn't shit.

[Anonymous No.20091495]

>>20091487
>had them sent back to me with the criticism that they "aren't diverse enough"
it's a self-fulfilling prophecy https://www.mckinsey.com/featured-insights/diversity-and-inclusion/diversity-wins-how-inclusion-matters

[Anonymous No.20091497]

>>20091487
you really do write like a 90 IQ spic

[Anonymous No.20091499]

>>20091479
>middle-class income
Most who teach humanities at colleges are not actual professors but adjuncts making barely over minimum wage. Tenure is a pipe dream for most PhDs also

[Anonymous No.20091500]

>>20091491
>Often they will just direct you back to the job application
True, but I have had 3 occasions when I was applying for jobs that somebody forwarded my resume along from a cold-email and the person he forwarded it to interviewed me. That wouldn't have happened if I applied online. Most of the time it will not work, but if you're like me and spent months applying online with no luck anywhere, then cold-emailing is worth trying. Like I said, that's just what worked for me.
And you're right I live in a city where 100k isn't shit.

[Anonymous No.20091508]

>>20091499
Adjuncts aren't Phds

[Anonymous No.20091512]

>>20091497
Alright fuck off then or tell me what you do for a living, faggot. Go ahead and give out better advice then.

[Anonymous No.20091526]

>>20091512
I'm a proud NEET who is going to grad school soon. My advice is don't listen to so much fucking advice, many things are out of our reasonable control and the whole 'you just have to do this silly thing and it'll all work!' meme is used to give people false hope so they can be manipulated.

[Anonymous No.20091561]

>>20091526
>This advice doesn't work 100% of the time so don't even listen to it
Yeah I've met your type before. In Asia, teaching English with a PhD.

[Anonymous No.20091578]

>>20090767
this but unironically

[Anonymous No.20091595]

>>20089765
My standard for hiring is:
(+) if he/she got a good philosophical understanding
(-) if he/she actually went to university to get a philosophical degree

Maybe it's just where I live, but university is already a meme, going to one is the biggest mistake of my life. And going to university specifically for a degree that you just KNOW is without demand just shows that the guy is either a brainlet or a midwit.

It is one thing to seek truth and knowledge, but it's another thing to fall for a scam anon.

[Anonymous No.20091600]

>>20091561
You really are a retard, mate.

[Anonymous No.20091604]

>>20091595
>philosophy having anything to do with the hiring process
I wonder if anyone will fall this bait

[Anonymous No.20091618]

>>20091600
Lol ok, you homeless neet about to go into debt for a useless degree

[Anonymous No.20091623]

Retarded Nigger thread. Just do a double major with something that is applicable to a market, together with the thing you find interesting.

[Anonymous No.20091629]

>>20091618
My degree is going to be a JD, it's lawyering.

That was some pathetic backtracking, by the way.
>You have to do this ridiculous thing or you're a moron who will never get hired!
>um, well maybe it's just my company okay, no one's perfect

[Anonymous No.20091634]

>>20091629
For a future lawyer, your reading comprehension skills are terrible. Good luck.

[Anonymous No.20091636]

>>20089765
pharaoh(1999) bros, we got too cocky...

[Anonymous No.20091641]

>>20091634
Nice generic and meaningless comeback. I'd expect as much out of neutered spic who thinks having extra money left over to give to e-thots (after your $4000 New York rent) justifies working in that miserable environment.

[Anonymous No.20091649]

>>20091641
No u

[Anonymous No.20091655]

>>20091649
okay you're right, I'm sorry. I'll go kill myself now.

[Anonymous No.20091659]

>>20091655
Ok

[Anonymous No.20091743]

>>20089871
If your PhD is unfunded it means you shouldn't be doing it but the people around you are too nice to say you aren't good enough. Never do an unfunded graduate program, that's basic common sense.

[Anonymous No.20091772]

>>20089765
Getting a philosophy degree without a plan to get into something like Law is a brainlet move. There is literally nothing stopping you from getting a degree that leads to an actual career and reading philosophy on the side.

[Anonymous No.20092062]

>>20089780
>Their opinions are inconsequential to me
Same could be said about all philosophers.

[Anonymous No.20092094]

Why are so many classic /lit/ shitposts being picked up by normalfag social media sites all of a sudden? that Kant 'circus is in town' pasta was butchered by twitterniggers just a few weeks ago too.

[Anonymous No.20092095]

>>20092094
We are the smartest people on earth.

[Anonymous No.20092098]

>>20092095
earth is doomed

[Anonymous No.20092100]

>>20092098
Speak for yourself.

[Anonymous No.20092137]

>>20090799
see >>20090622