/sffg/ - Science Fiction and Fantasy General

[Anonymous No.20158939]

Knight of Astora Oscar Edition

Previous Thread:>>20152583

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>>>/t/1023504

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Never going to be created.

[Anonymous No.20158960]

What are you guys currently or planning on reading?

Been reading The Darkness that comes before. That's what I am reading, what about you guys?

[Anonymous No.20158968]

vita nostra is the april book club read
>russian magic school
https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/38633526-vita-nostra
>invite
https://discord.com/invite/KWPCM7m

[Anonymous No.20158976]

>>20158960
Just about to start Birthgrave by Tanith Lee. I liked her short story and commentary in Songs of Dying Earth so maybe this'll be good

[Anonymous No.20158985]

>>20158960
I started the Darkness that Comes Before 2, but haven't been able to get into it

[Anonymous No.20159035]

Why isn't David Gemmell more popular?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Gemmell

[Anonymous No.20159056]

>>20158960
Reading Warcraft The Last Guardian right now, it's about Medivh. Warcraft is probably my favorite universe up until Legion. Legion lore was great but I don't know what the fuck they're doing now.

[Anonymous No.20159100]

>>20158960
Oscillating between the second trilogy in that series, the Sharpe historical novels and psych literature on rare(r) personality disorders.

[Anonymous No.20159166]

>>20159056
I read that a few months back. Poor Khadgar, with a bad fate in fiction.
It did make me wonder: When Medivh was fucking Garona, do you think Sargeras was actively paying attention?

[Anonymous No.20159170]

>>20159100
>rarer personality disorders
You have my attention.
t. Psychfag

[Anonymous No.20159197]

is johnny mnemonic in burning chrome (collection) or not?
downloaded three different files and it's not in any of them I'm going crazy

[Anonymous No.20159235]

is Malazan Book of the Fallen any good?

[Anonymous No.20159314]

>>20159166
I will report back, I barely started it this morning.

[Anonymous No.20159411]

>>20159235
It is, but it's also asking a lot of the reader.

[Anonymous No.20159422]

>>20159235
No, it's a mess. I enjoyed the first book, but the rest had very little in common with it.
It takes the whole jumping to a new PoV character every chapter cliche to the extreme, not only does it do that within each book, but every book jumps to a completely new cast of characters, most of whom you've never heard of. In one case it jumps to a completely new continent with a plot that is completely unrelated to all the books that came before it.
Half of it reads like a pen and paper campaign, half of it reads like a movie screenplay for a dumb Michael Bay film.
Characters also never get proper development. They get the start of a character arc, then the book ends, and they show up 4 books later as a tOtAl BaDaSs for an action scene, then go right back to being totally irrelevant.

Malazan is a decent trilogy hidden inside 10 books of shite.

[Anonymous No.20159449]

Trull = Itkovian > Bugg/Tehol > Beak

[Anonymous No.20159467]

>>20159411
>>20159422
Thanks for the replies. I was only planning on reading the first book anyway, because the series is not translated into my language and only the first book is available in English.

[Anonymous No.20159505]

Just finished a Dance with Dragons. Will watching the show ruin my experience with the books or is it worth it just to see how much they fucked it up after they run out of book material?

[Anonymous No.20159514]

>>20159505
The show is mostly a waste of time. It's innofensive at its best and just regular old low effort bad most of the time. If you're going to sink a bunch of time into watching something, you might as well watch something entertaining like Stargate SG1.

[Anonymous No.20159529]

>>20158968
The discord is overrun by trannies, don't join

[Anonymous No.20159541]

I'd "read" her.

[Anonymous No.20159555]

>>20159541
I remember somebody posted the top 100 Fantasy books on Amazon right now and she was 3 or 4 of the top 50. Granted there was also shifter shit on there, so I'm not sure the top 100 is a mark for quality.

[Anonymous No.20159558]

>>20159555
>Granted there was also shifter shit on there
What the fuck is the deal with this shit? Why is there so much of it? It's everywhere, and it's all shit.

[Anonymous No.20159570]

>>20159558
I have no idea. I'm not even sure how much of it is erotica or not, but it seems to be the trend right now. There's also a lot of female-oriented fantasy romance shit involving what looks like "normal peasant girl becomes entwined with powerful otherworldly man". Look for yourself.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/bestsellers/books/16190

[Anonymous No.20159577]

>>20159570
I hate that litrpg shit is actually that popular.

[Anonymous No.20159579]

>>20159570
>#58 is Dad Bod Dragon
>The cover is just some shirtless guy
Fantasy has peaked, surely.

[Anonymous No.20159582]

>>20159577
I don't think it's necessarily bad, it's just a tool and a lot of people misuse it. He Who Fights With Monsters is pretty well-written for what it is, but I haven't read basically any of the others on that list.

[Anonymous No.20159663]

>>20158976
I've started it yesterday as well

[Anonymous No.20159682]

The greatest Sci-Fi author who ever lived was Michael Crichton

The greatest Fantasy author who ever lived was David Eddings

The greatest Horror author who ever lived was William Peter Blatty

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[Anonymous No.20159730]

>>20159570
That being said, that's an hourly chart so to get an accurate idea would need to follow it over a long period of time or find a longer time duration list.
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[Anonymous No.20159739]

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[Anonymous No.20159754]

[Anonymous No.20159771]

Just finished reading Ubik. Man what a book. Phillip K Dick simply never misses.

[Anonymous No.20159806]

Sanderson's dialogue <span class="xae" data-xae="rofl">🤣[/spoiler] <span class="xae" data-xae="rofl">🤣[/spoiler] <span class="xae" data-xae="rofl">🤣[/spoiler]

[Anonymous No.20159812]

>>20159754
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[Anonymous No.20159827]

>>20159771
I loved it so much dude. Try A Maze of Death next.

[Anonymous No.20159973]

i liked buy these old sf books

[Anonymous No.20159978]

>>20159973
No wonder east euros are poorfags

[Anonymous No.20160000]

>>20159505
You will love it if you hate stannis

[Anonymous No.20160004]

>>20159978
they have better translations and covers also fuck you

[Anonymous No.20160036]

>>20159973
i think these are some cool paperbacks

[Anonymous No.20160161]

>>20158960
Hello fellow Bakker Chad. I am re-reading the Warrior Prophet.

I rank them
Warrior Prophet
Thousandfold Thought
The Unholy Consult
The Darkness That Comes Before
The Great Ordeal
The White Luck Warrior
The Judging Eye

[Anonymous No.20160234]

Anybody here read hard sci-fi? I'm thinking of writing a story on a German ornithologist doing field research in Tibet (as an excuse to do some basic self-study of the natural sciences) but I'm unfamiliar with the genre. I don't want to write the usual sci-fi tales of space/time travel, aliens, and robots. What kind of stories are like this: small-scale, cozy, down-to-earth, sensuous

[Anonymous No.20160296]

>>20160234
That doesn't sound like it would contain any speculative elements at all. So, really it would just be fiction and relevant to this general at all.

[Anonymous No.20160303]

>>20160296
*not relevant

[Anonymous No.20160429]

Earwa...home...

[Anonymous No.20160450]

>>20160161
Warrior Prophet > Darkness That Comes Before > Great Ordeal > White-Luck Warrior > Unholy Consult > Judging Eye > Thousandfold Thought

I found TTT lackluster

[Anonymous No.20160529]

>>20160296
>>20160303
It's a sci-fi general, though.

[Anonymous No.20160537]

Are there any books that are similar to Elden Ring or even Dark Souls?

[Anonymous No.20160539]

>>20159682
>William Peter Blatty
based

[Anonymous No.20160560]

>>20160161
I stopped reading at the warrior prophet. If it's truly the best one then this series is not worth continuing. I enjoyed darkness much more.

[Anonymous No.20160563]

>>20160537
Read Gene Wolfe.

[Anonymous No.20160564]

I see cool fantasy literature just released in my country
It called Harry Potter by JKR
Have you read?

[Anonymous No.20160573]

Book of the Short sun > botls > botns
Pateta Silk > Severian = Horn

[Anonymous No.20160603]

>>20160529
I don't think you understand what science fiction is.

[Anonymous No.20160607]

>>20159505
Only if you don't mind quitting cold turkey after season 4, because everything after that is pretty much worthless and includes a few confirmed spoilers for future books (provided there will be any).

[Anonymous No.20160629]

>>20160603
>>20160529
More specifically, that would be contemporary fiction. If you were say writing it set in the past, then it would be historical fiction.

[Anonymous No.20160660]

>>20159197
Its in mine, opening story to boot

[Anonymous No.20160662]

>>20160603
>>20160629
Perhaps, I'm ignorant. I thought my story was sci-fi if science was central to the story.

[Anonymous No.20160664]

What do you guys think of Mark Lawrence's Broken Empire Trilogy? Haven't read much but enjoying it so far

[Anonymous No.20160668]

>>20159682
I cant disagree with any of this

[Anonymous No.20160670]

>>20160664
hot garbage
edgy but in a bad mary sue sort of way, i regret reading it

[Anonymous No.20160677]

>>20159514

[Anonymous No.20160685]

Damn there is a lot of /ss/ in the later Dune books.

[Anonymous No.20160693]

>>20160664
I liked them, they get better as the trilogy progresses too.

[Anonymous No.20160711]

>>20160537
R. Scott Bakker - The Darkness That Comes Before
also videogames rot your brain

[Anonymous No.20160738]

>>20160662
That isn't the case, but good luck anyway.

[Anonymous No.20160739]

>>20159570
wtf sisters? I thought harry potter was cancelled...

[Anonymous No.20160740]

>>20160711
>also videogames rot your brain
The irony of this from the Bakkerposter.

[Anonymous No.20160746]

>>20159806
I don't see anything wrong except
>"I suppose," Dockson said. "But isn't he supposed -"

[Anonymous No.20160759]

>>20160738
>>20160662
You may also want look into
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Creative_nonfiction

[Anonymous No.20160767]

>>20160746
It overuses dialogue tags in a two-person conversation, when they can be dropped after the first couple of uses. The dialogue itself is fine, a little "obviously heist movie dialogue", but that's the intent, Mistborn's first book has a heist movie-style set up.

[Anonymous No.20160782]

>>20160660
yeah, wikipedia and stuff says it's the first one.
but all 3 I've looked at are missing it and start with Gernsback. very odd

[Anonymous No.20160787]

>>20160746
He could stand to omit "X said" a few times, unless he thinks his readers are too dumb to keep track in a conversation between two people. Maybe break it up with actions, like:
>"All right." Dockson shrugged.

[Anonymous No.20160788]

>>20160767
There's nothing wrong with He said She said. It would be cleaner if it was every 3 or 4 lines, sure. It's only really obnoxious when there's a new thing every sentence.
>"I like cheese," he stated out loud.
>"Well I don't," she disagreed.
>"But you must admit," he demanded. "Cheese is quite good."
>"It's fine for some people," she reasoned. "But not for me."

[Anonymous No.20160793]

>>20159570
>There's also a lot of female-oriented fantasy romance shit involving what looks like "normal peasant girl becomes entwined with powerful otherworldly man"
That's how fantasy is these days. Go on instagram and A LOT of anything literature related is that brand of YA/romance.

The titles are also usually:
>The... of... and
>A... of... and

[Anonymous No.20160806]

>>20160788
Said is perfectly fine, yeah, because "said" is functionally invisible. Readers will often just learn to skip it and only really acknowledge the speaker. That excerpt isn't a stellar example of Sanderson's writing to begin with (Mistborn era 1 is just overall pretty rough, with some decent moments and a good enough ending), so it's a bit odd to use an excerpt from... I think his second-ever published book as an example of how bad his dialogue writing is.

[Anonymous No.20160853]

>>20159570
Amazon top 100 has been like that for years:
>30% paranormal romance/borderline erotica
>25% litRPG
>all of Harry Potter
>a smattering of hugely popular authors like Tolkien and GRRM
>whatever happens to have gotten an adaptation recently (currently Dune and Wheel of Time)

[Anonymous No.20160869]

>>20160853
I always feel a little depressed that Harry Potter is STILL so high-selling. I get it's a cultural phenomenon, but it's just... Eh? So was Fifty Shades but that sort of faded.

[Anonymous No.20160896]

>>20160869
Mostly people looking for things to read to their children, I think. For that much, it's perfectly adequate.

[Anonymous No.20160919]

>>20160869
What would you prefer the composition to be?

[Anonymous No.20160920]

>>20160896
I suppose so. There's not really anything else that's particularly child-friendly (more YA at best) in that top 100.

[Anonymous No.20160922]

>>20160869
I love it because as much as I hate JKR's politics I hate her haters' politics more. Seeing her consistently sell books to this day means there's some small measure of hope in the world. Plus it's not like anyone has written anything better.

[Anonymous No.20160923]

>>20160711
retard

[Anonymous No.20160931]

>>20160919
I'm not really saying anything has to specifically replace it, I'm just surprised that the whole series is still selling so well. I guess it's just how it is, but hey.

[Anonymous No.20160935]

Bakker fags have really ruined the idea of me ever reading him.

[Anonymous No.20160983]

>>20160664
Decent first book, weird second, the third is kinda meh. Overall I'd say it's just average, but as in decent writing, but the ideas, plot and characters are overall unfulfilling.

[Anonymous No.20160993]

>>20160919
60% Sarah J Maas 30% Xianxia 10% my novel desu

[Anonymous No.20160999]

>>20159579
I won't lie, the synopsis unironically made me interested in reading. Looks exactly what it is, and seems just the right amount of self-aware.

[Anonymous No.20161000]

>>20158976
>>20159663
its okay but unsatisfying desu
better than some of Lee's other works, but that just means she's nothing spectacular
on the plus side the third book ends with the heroine having sex with her own son which is based

[Anonymous No.20161003]

>>20160935
1. Bakker spammer hasn't even read Bakker since he keeps cycling the same 3 tired memes about black seed and honey of anuses
2. How weak-willed are you if a bunch of shitposts on tibetan sand mandala forum prevent you from reading certain authors?

[Anonymous No.20161008]

>>20160999
God that cover feels like a shitpost. It's "stock photo dadbod guy" and "stock dragon image" on a vague background.

[Anonymous No.20161015]

>>20160993
Sarah J Maas is already up there quite a bit. Woman sells a LOT somehow.

[Anonymous No.20161017]

>>20160999
>HEA
Honestly one of my favorite things in the romance genre. I'm so fucking tired of srs shit. I read books for entertainment. Don't try to get fucking philosophical by killing off every main character except the street rat they saved on page 32.

[Anonymous No.20161021]

>>20161017
What's HEA even stand for? Humourous Erotic Action?

[Anonymous No.20161026]

>>20161021
happily ever after

[Anonymous No.20161031]

>>20161026
I feel a little saddened I didn't even consider that. Most novels would have just used "lighthearted" there I think, but shifter romance shit seems to have its own fucking vocabulary for everything.

[Anonymous No.20161033]

>>20161000
>momcest
now we're cooking

[Anonymous No.20161037]

>>20161031
It's nothing to do with shifter. It's a general romance tag that spoils the ending so you don't have to guess before reading it.

[Anonymous No.20161050]

>>20161015
Compared to males, females are less aroused by actual pornography and more by fictional scenarios.
She sells thinly disguised wanking material, and she seems to be good at it (or at least at promoting herself).

[Anonymous No.20161055]

>>20161037
Fair. Romance stuff in general isn't something I ever read. Romantic subplots I can like but I'm never a fan of things where the romance is the whole plot because almost every romance story seems to consist of a bunch of people being idiots until they're fucking each other.

[Anonymous No.20161067]

>>20160922
There is plenty better magic school wizard books. Read anything else.

[Anonymous No.20161070]

>>20161017
Please tell me you have some good recommendations for that, preferably fantasy-related.

[Anonymous No.20161077]

>>20161055
Almost every epic fantasy story seems to consist of a bunch of people being idiots until they're killing each other.

[Anonymous No.20161081]

>>20161067
Genuine question, which ones? I've known a few, and read a couple, but not too familiar with that many.

[Anonymous No.20161082]

>>20160711
Readying about gay kinky rape monsters doesn't?

[Anonymous No.20161111]

>>20161081
Too me personally, Lev Grossman's 'Magicians' is the best wizard school story I've seen. Also, Trudi Canavan's Black Magician trillogy.

[Anonymous No.20161130]

>>20160664
>What do you guys think of Mark Lawrence's Broken Empire Trilogy? Haven't read much but enjoying it so far
Dropped the first book. Found it boring, and it read like a 16-year-old wannabe edgelord wrote it.

[Anonymous No.20161138]

>>20161111
Oh shit, Trudi Canavan's stuff, I think I read some of those. Isn't that the one where the protagonist leaves without telling anybody but his best friend but his best friend trips and smashes his head and becomes incoherent so everybody thinks he's dead by the time he comes back? Or am I mistaking that with another series. It was definitely something I read 10-odd years ago.

[Anonymous No.20161150]

>>20161111
These are both shit.

[Anonymous No.20161159]

>>20159197
Maybe it's some rights issue with the ebook

[Anonymous No.20161173]

should i get it for 25$? its the only issue in my language

The shadow of the torturer

[Anonymous No.20161185]

>>20159682
Dimiter niggas represent

[Anonymous No.20161202]

>>20161173
God no, it is shit in original, it can only be shit in translated

[Anonymous No.20161274]

just heard peter watts complain that you can't kill fishermen in animal crossing and then compare it to skyrim

[Anonymous No.20161280]

>>20161274
Books?

[Anonymous No.20161284]

>>20161280
peter watts is books

[Anonymous No.20161298]

>>20161173
If you can read English I don't see why you'd spend money on a translation, cover's cool though

[Anonymous No.20161378]

>>20161202
>God no, it is shit in original

[Anonymous No.20161445]

>>20158939
What are the linguistic differences amongst the different regions of Westeros?

[Anonymous No.20161468]

>>20161445
Exactly the same as the differences between English accents in the UK

[Anonymous No.20161487]

>>20161468
Why are the wildlings able to perfectly understand the people south of the wall despite being separated for 8,000 years?

[Anonymous No.20161496]

>>20161445
This is unrelated to Westeros, but is an example of languages.
https://oakthorne.net/wiki/index.php/Forgotten_Realms_Languages

[Anonymous No.20161513]

>>20161487
the wildlings still trade with the Watch

[Anonymous No.20161515]

>>20161513
yeah, trade bussies

[Anonymous No.20161517]

>>20161173
25 for the first book alone? Paperback? Surely you can get a better deal.

[Anonymous No.20161523]

>>20161513
How often and in what interval? How does that explain every single wildling being able to understand the people south of the wall and not just the ones who do the actual trading with the Night’s Watch?

[Anonymous No.20161536]

Cnaiur has the perfect body, he is peak performance

[Anonymous No.20161540]

A liberal homosexual feminist Protestant was teaching a class on George R.R. Martin, known hack

”Before the class begins, you must get on your knees and worship Gurm and accept that Planetos is the greatest fantasy setting of all time even greater than Arda!”

At this moment, a brave, patriotic, British WW1 veteran who had served 1500 tours of duty on the Somme and understood the necessity of war and fully supported all decisions made by Butcher Haig stood up.

”What are the linguistic differences among the peoples of Westeros?”

The arrogant proddie smirked quite schismatically and smugly replied “There is the Old Tongue and the Common Tongue, you stupid warmonger”

”Wrong. There should be hundreds of dialects. If the Wall is 8000 years old as you say, how can the Wildlings and Northmen understand one another?”

The HBO shill was visibly shaken, and dropped his chalk and copy of A World of Ice and Fire. He stormed out of the room crying those redditor crocodile tears. The same tears redditors (who today live in such luxury most can afford sex changes) cried when Missandei was beheaded. There is no doubt that at this point our sola scriptura-faggot wished he had pulled himself up by his bootstraps and become more than a garbage pulp fiction fan. He wished so much he could die a glorious death in battle, but he had sworn to always be a draft dodger!

The students applauded and became Tolkien fans that day and accepted the Pope as their Lord and Master. A giant eagle named “Thorondor” flew into the room and perched atop the flag of Gondor and shed a tear on the White Tree. Beowulf was read in the original Old English several times, and Eru Ilúvatar himself showed up and enacted Aragorn's flat rate tax policy across the universe.

The Lutheran was fired the next day and sunset found him squatting in the grass, groaning. Every stool was looser than the one before, and smelled fouler. By the time the moon came up he was shitting brown water.

[Anonymous No.20161549]

>>20161523
I'm not sure how often they trade but they do have a history of trading (especially at Eastwatch?), and up to at least as recently as when Varamyr was a child. I think it makes more sense for the southern wildlings to speak it since they are still in contact with those who speak common and are closer. The guys like the Thenns and the other tribes way further north not really speaking common well makes sense though

[Anonymous No.20161555]

>>20159806
I just finished rereading WoT, jesus christ the last three were rough to finish. I remember them not being so trash but I guess nostalgia crept up on me.
It was like reading fanfiction.

[Anonymous No.20161582]

What's a good 2-4 book fantasy series? I've read LotR, most of The Black Company, Asoiaf. Is The First Law any good?

[Anonymous No.20161604]

>>20161487
because advancement of civilisation did not happen, therefore language also stayed roughly the same, obviously 8000 years is bit of strech, but still believable.

[Anonymous No.20161633]

>>20161582
Name of the Wind

[Anonymous No.20161687]

>>20161540
Gurmbros….
we lost

[Anonymous No.20161700]

Blond Beast reigning supreme
In the land of brownies and blacks
Can't compete even in a dream
This is reality and this is facts

[Anonymous No.20161705]

>>20161700
dubs confirm

[Anonymous No.20161709]

>>20160711
I’m unironically going to make a bideo game that rips off Bakker’s worldbuilding and story, but doesn’t credit him.

[Anonymous No.20161750]

https://bookriot.com/will-i-ever-read-sff-again/

[Anonymous No.20161753]

>>20161750
Less effort than even a twitter screencap post. Sad!

[Anonymous No.20161842]

This is really good.

[Anonymous No.20161853]

>>20161842
I prefer his short fiction.

[Anonymous No.20161858]

>>20161842
>astute social commentary in poignant, revelatory prose
now I really don't want to read it

[Anonymous No.20161861]

>>20161858
here

[Anonymous No.20161862]

should i reread the Xanth series or the Discworld series nexT?

[Anonymous No.20161868]

>>20161842
>>20161861
>Hugo and Nebula award winning
How to tell me not to read your book in one simple sentence.

[Anonymous No.20161883]

>>20161868
ok retard

[Anonymous No.20161889]

>>20161536
weeper

[Anonymous No.20161892]

>>20161868
This

[Anonymous No.20161894]

Characters are the most important part of stories. So why do most authors make them awful? This is what books get more wrong than any other medium.

[Anonymous No.20161902]

>>20161894
general sff fan is a complete social retard

[Anonymous No.20161905]

What you fags reading?

:honk:

[Anonymous No.20161907]

Any good works of Chinese myth or fantasy that can be recommended to me?

[Anonymous No.20161912]

>>20161894
Because most authors are autists and autists can't write characters for shit.

[Anonymous No.20161917]

>>20161905
The Kalevala

Vainamoinen has clawed his way out of the sky mommy and then a gnome clad in bronze emerged from the sea and turned in to a giant in order to hew an oak that had grown so big it was causing nature to cease function

[Anonymous No.20161920]

>>20161907
Journey to the West is one of the great East Asian classics

[Anonymous No.20161921]

>>20161894
Plot is most important. You can have a story with cardboard cutouts, but a story with no plot just falls apart. Plus, "character" is only revealed through action.

[Anonymous No.20161939]

>>20161907
Overall Chinese fiction is better than western. But when it comes to their fantasy, I just can't get over silly shit like qigong and acupuncture.

[Anonymous No.20161945]

>>20161905
Over halfway through Reaper now. Mercy just ascended.
No honking.

[Anonymous No.20161947]

>>20161921
>Plot is most important.
Good enough characters can make a story about watching paint dry entertaining. I have never seen a book with bad characters that was still enjoyable, no matter how great the plot.

[Anonymous No.20161948]

>>20161907
O' most illustrious poster, this groveling wretch extends his most meager offering, a work of no great value, that might amuse you only in its foolishness, The Wallet of Kai Lung

[Anonymous No.20161963]

All bakkerfags are womanish weepers

[Anonymous No.20161984]

>>20161862
Just read Discworld it's never a bad idea.

[Anonymous No.20161992]

>>20161947
Good characters can save a bad story or setting. Bad characters can't be saved by a good story or setting.

[Anonymous No.20162033]

>>20161920
>>20161948
Thank you

[Anonymous No.20162164]

>>20161963
Fake news, Bakkerchads are one of the few posters who have long form discussions about meaningful subjects, they also keep the threads running and detect false prophets like sandersnoy and other pozzed writers and they help the thread get rid of them.

[Anonymous No.20162171]

>>20162164
t. weeper

[Anonymous No.20162181]

>>20161582
'sarrite. Lyonesse is pretty great. Maybe hit some YA classics like Earthsea or Sabriel.

[Anonymous No.20162187]

>>20162171
Bakkerchads are the pillar that holds /sffg/ together, without them this board will be about pozzed authors and women protagonists, people will be avatar posting about their protag "waifu" and make us look like clowns, because of bakkerchads, we are based, without them, we are pozzed.

[Anonymous No.20162205]

>>20162164
Based

[Anonymous No.20162211]

>>20162187
Based

[Anonymous No.20162214]

>>20162187
You're just like cnaiur coping about not being gay. Weeper.

[Anonymous No.20162216]

>>20162187
Based and red pilled.

[Anonymous No.20162218]

Well we had a good run but he's here to shit the place up again because we can't be discussing actual books.

[Anonymous No.20162219]

>>20162218
>giving up this easily
You're more womanish than bakkerfags.

[Anonymous No.20162230]

>>20162218
>discussing actual books.
Don't even know why they're here if they hate discussing books.

[Anonymous No.20162330]

Sons of the Harpy are the good guys, you can’t prove me wrong

[Anonymous No.20162363]

>>20162330
I can prove you wrong easily, they have horns and look scary, which makes them the bad guys.

[Anonymous No.20162441]

SEVERIAN FUCKED HIS GRANDMA

[Anonymous No.20162454]

>>20162441
As if you wouldn't do the same in his shoes

[Anonymous No.20162480]

>>20158960
I like to curate my kindle to have the best version of every cover, and it annoys me how bad the cover is. The Serbian cover is way better.

[Anonymous No.20162483]

>>20159541
Bro I would destroy her "books" with me "eyes" if you know what I mean

[Anonymous No.20162505]

>>20162441
This is the future the Catholics want for us...

[Anonymous No.20162552]

>>20161582
planet of adventure
cadwal chronicles
gentlemen bastards
viriconium
tuf voyaging
demon princes

[Anonymous No.20162582]

>>20161633
It’s trash and rothfuss will never finish the third book.

[Anonymous No.20162592]

>>20159035
good question, but i think the standard answers will apply where he was too late to be a formative influence and then got swamped by the new wave stuff that captured most of the prestige/renown in the 60s-80s. SFF is all part of the publishing industry and it's all based on a leveraged model where success begets more success and failure begets more failure. the drenai series didn't really fit that high/epic fantasy doorstopper paradigm that all the other fantasy successes in the 80s-00s were fitting.

best way fix it is to read them yourself and spread the good news to others willing to listen.

[Anonymous No.20162597]

>>20158960
I’m finishing The Transmigration of Timothy Archer. I have Gun, with Occasional Music, The Accelerando and Axioms End. Deciding which to read first. I was leaning toward Accelerando.

[Anonymous No.20162616]

>>20162592
I think another part of it is he simply played it too safe, with almost all of his stories being heavily based in history. Taking inspiration from history can help, but in his case he simply uses too much of it and it makes his stories feel dry, there's nothing novel or interesting about his settings or cultures, they're all just not!british or not!mongols.

[Anonymous No.20162630]

>>20159235
i love it. it's my favorite series. i find it to be particularly well-written as far as fantasy goes, with a wide variety of very realistic characters as well as a series of interlocking epic plots. there's a lot of trope inversion, especially in the first 4-5 books, that stands out for its time and place within the broader SFF publishing universe. i've read the whole series at least 3 times through, and probably read 1-3 at least 6 or 7 times in late high school/early college alone (this was before 4+ had been published in US).

that said, it's not everyone's cup of tea. book 1 REALLY filters people. some people complain about the sheer number of characters or how many feel duplicative or that it always seems like erikson has copied/pasted act v, scene 1 of hamlet.

if you're fully happy/satisfied reading something like sanderson, this probably isn't for you. if you really like the grimdark stuff because you just revel in how horrible people are, this isn't for you. if you are interested in well-written epic fantasy with a deeply humanistic message and can stand to be challenged as a reader rather than spoon-fed every detail about lore/world-building, give it a chance.

[Anonymous No.20162683]

>>20161709
Rip off what exactly? Bakkers worldbuilding isn't all that unique, he's more of a philosophy/characters kind of guy. And the more interesting ideas aren't going to work much in a videogame. Unlike GURM he doesn't have dozens of wacky pokemon houses with personal banners and mottos. Also, Second Apocalypse is such an obscure series you can probably buy a copyright from Bakker for a few hundred bucks.

[Anonymous No.20162685]

>>20161604
>8,000 years is a bit of a stretch
>still believable
>i have no conception of what's realistic and what's not

nigga, we had the great english vowel shift like 500 years ago and would struggle to communicate clearly with someone before that without a translator.

the only reason languages seem so fixed today is because of the invention of the printing press and the spread of literacy. without that effectively freezing the rules for a particular language in place, it's going to change rapidly (sometimes over timelines as short as several generations). expecting everyone in the 7 kingdoms to 1) speak the same, singular language but without widespread literacy and printing presses, and 2) be able to speak easily with wildlings who have been isolated by the wall for 8+ millennia and whose only interactions are with giants, thenns, and maybe children of the forest is...well, it certainly isn't rock-solid or realistic world-building.

i know you have to pick and choose what you want to focus on with world-building in stories, but if GURM/Moorcuck are going to shit all over Tolkien, maybe they shouldn't throw stones from their glass houses first.

[Anonymous No.20162699]

>>20161917
based karelian poster

[Anonymous No.20162725]

>>20162441
She's legit the wildest character in the series.

[Anonymous No.20162764]

>>20161861
When they say a successor to Gibson do they mean in writing style? I like Gibson's sort of fragmented, stilted style from his first two trilogies, I'd love another author like that.

[Anonymous No.20162814]

I´m reading Gormenghast and i´m bored with it, does it get better or should I just drop it?

[Anonymous No.20162818]

>>20162505
/lit/ big boss

[Anonymous No.20162881]

>>20162764
Maybe PKD

[Anonymous No.20162902]

I'm almost done with Wheel of Time, and I have to say that one of my favorite details is how unrepentantly racist Ewgyne is against the Seanchan.

[Anonymous No.20162956]

Thoughts?

[Anonymous No.20162959]

>>20160450
Both Prince of Nothing and Aspect-Emperor had shit endings. Sad, since Bakker's prose and storyworld is a joy to read.

[Anonymous No.20162964]

>>20162959
Prince of Nothing had a great ending.

[Anonymous No.20163022]

>>20162959
I loved PoN ending; Moe's reveal, Akka's renunciation, destruction of Shimeh
I've got a mixed bag of feelings about TUC endings. It's both a cliffhanger but also a defintive end of the most arcs. It perfectly rounds the themes of the story and the more I think about the more I realise that how well everything is set up narratively. Bakker definitely plans his books ahead in totality instead of writing to see what happens in their commercially sold DnD campaign like most fantasy authors. Some parts are underwhelming, for example Golgotterath, the biggest tease of the entire series, went unexplored, and what little we saw isnt interesting. We didnt even enter it, Serwa just fought a big tentacle drake for a bit. Inchoroi were wasted in favor of the dunyain twist, and Kellhus' death had me laughing since halfway the series I made a guess that Bakker is going to get him killed by a random goon.

[Anonymous No.20163079]

>>20160999
This would sound equally as comfortablw in the bizarro subgenre. I like it. Sounds creative.

[Anonymous No.20163088]

>>20161015
Over 12m books apparently

[Anonymous No.20163321]

Where do I start with Zelazny?

[Anonymous No.20163327]

>>20163321
Jack of Shadows is short and a good introduction to his style. If you like it read the Amber series.

[Anonymous No.20163369]

>>20163321
Lord of Light

[Anonymous No.20163384]

>>20159806
just read his dialogue in skyrim NPC voices and it actually loops around to becoming charming

[Anonymous No.20163398]

>>20162764
they mean in terms of being the "next big thing in sci-fi" which is why 2 out of every 3 new sci-fi authors get described as such. bacigalupi's prose isn't completely flaccid, but he doesn't have much of his own style and to the extent he does have one, it's not similar to gibson's

[Anonymous No.20163417]

>>20160931
Yeah, I remember how huge it was in the 2000s and then after the movies finished I thought it had faded... but I guess it's still going, just quieter now. New movies probably help too even though they're trash

[Anonymous No.20163452]

Why is this the only thread with link to book charts?

[Anonymous No.20163475]

>>20159806
Some of you retards can write better than this. How in the fuck

[Anonymous No.20163478]

>>20161536
>>20161889
Weeper faggot

[Anonymous No.20163484]

>>20161862
Read battle circle by Piers. I loved it when I was a kid, so it's probably shit. Haha

[Anonymous No.20163527]

>>20161517
yeah bc its an old ass edition
>>20161298
originals are expensive here also i like reading the translations more

[Anonymous No.20163756]

No wonder Fletcher hasn't finished the original Manifest Delusions trilogy. This side story complete railroads everything the two main books set up. There's no reason to even care about what happens at the end of The Mirror's Truth after this one. I don't think he can even write another book set in the same universe and expect anyone to care.

[Anonymous No.20163767]

>>20163756
Kys libshit, why would I want to read that? A book about white coal burner and a nigger? Do not post this trash on 4chan.

[Anonymous No.20163771]

>>20163767
Take your meds. No one values your presence here.

[Anonymous No.20163833]

>>20161921
Spotted the 14 year old Sanderson fan

[Anonymous No.20163991]

>>20160664
Very poorly written first person tripe

[Anonymous No.20164032]

>>20163756
>>20163771
>JANNY SAVE ME SOMEONE SAID THE NIGGER WORD!!!!
Kys and stop posting ya trash

[Anonymous No.20164134]

>>20164032
Based

[Anonymous No.20164271]

>>20161582
First law is great as are most of the standalone books. The second trilogy isn't as strong but is still enjoyable.

[Anonymous No.20164351]

>>20162630
sounds great, thanks

[Anonymous No.20164600]

>>20158939
Why hasn’t anyone written books set in The Elder Scrolls universe?

[Anonymous No.20164607]

>>20159035
His particular brand of fantasy sat in an odd niche where it wasn't quite 'epic' fantasy which had become the norm or was becoming the norm when he started writing. It was closer to Sword & Sorcery in fact.

[Anonymous No.20164616]

>>20160537
Lords of Dyscrasia

[Anonymous No.20164627]

>>20158939
What do I need to get into Conan?

[Anonymous No.20164652]

>>20164600
https://archiveofourown.org/tags/Elder%20Scrolls/works?commit=Sort+and+Filter&work_search[words_from]=50000

[Anonymous No.20164674]

>>20164600
There are two novels written in the Elder Scrolls universe. They take place between Oblivion and Skyrim.

[Anonymous No.20164682]

>>20161921
Plot is least important since it's simply the structure the story itself takes place in.
Plot is shit like 'man takes revenge against those who killed his family.'
Story is what happens WITHIN that plot.

[Anonymous No.20164693]

>3 chapters left in Reaper
What am I reading next?

[Anonymous No.20164746]

>>20164693
I dunno, tried Mage Errant?

[Anonymous No.20164798]

thoughts

[Anonymous No.20164803]

>>20164798
>womeme author
Throw it in the trash

[Anonymous No.20164870]

>>20163478
Acting womanish won't make you a woman.

[Anonymous No.20164875]

>>20160560
Second series is a good deal different. Less politics, way more Beserk vibes. Consult becomes the focus.

So depends on what you like. The Unholy Consult might be the best. Second series needed more editing though.

[Anonymous No.20164894]

>>20160537
Bakker

[Anonymous No.20164906]

>>20164798
I really liked it. The characters weren't particularly compelling for me but the world and hook was interesting enough to pull me through
>tfw no genderfluid travel companion

[Anonymous No.20164915]

>>20161536
>Most violent of all men
>Physically dominated like a child by a Dunyain
>Intellectually and emotionally dominated even harder.
>Even inhabited by Ajokli, it just means Ajokli gets dominated.
He is still like a child compared to the Thought Dancers.

[Anonymous No.20164965]

>>20163022
>I thought Khellus easily BTFOing the Inchori and casually decapitating a head of the Consult worked inasmuch as it sets up his play against the Hundred and Ciphrang. He's transcended dealing with the Consult. Golden Room lore dump was cool, if mostly expected by that point.

[Anonymous No.20164967]

>>20164746
Yes.

[Anonymous No.20164976]

>>20164915
I hate Khellus 90% of the time, but it's nice when he ruins other forces with absolute dispassion. He's like an earthquake or hurricane.

[Anonymous No.20165063]

>>20164967
Then, I dunno, what exactly are you looking for?

[Anonymous No.20165078]

>>20161536
>most violent of closeted faggots
>wants to be fucked by some mind autist
>wants to be close to his fag crush, so he steals a tranny transformer and fucks it nightly thinking that he is fucking his crush

[Anonymous No.20165108]

>>20164976
>mfw Kellhus orders a demon to wipe out a nig nation for no real reason

[Anonymous No.20165134]

>>20165108
Given his rapes near the end of the second series, I would not be surprised if a climax of the No God is Ajokli getting trapped in a possession and Kellhus gaut raping one of the most powerful Gods in front of the other Gods to dispassionately assert dominance.

[Anonymous No.20165148]

I get people dig on LitRPGs but are any of them good? They can't all be bad.

[Anonymous No.20165225]

>>20165148
I'd say give The Legendary Mechanic a try.

[Anonymous No.20165229]

I started reading Project Hail Mary. It's a decent page turner, I guess. But it's a bit one-tone (narrator jacking off about science). Wonder if it'll stay that way or the plot goes into some interesting direction.

How did you guys like it?

[Anonymous No.20165241]

>>20165229
I didn't read it.

[Anonymous No.20165243]

>>20165225
>Look it up
>Book 103 exists
What the fuck.

[Anonymous No.20165247]

>>20165243
Webnovels are weird like that.

[Anonymous No.20165248]

>>20165247
I was hoping for something in a more concrete format.

[Anonymous No.20165262]

>>20165108
>anime

[Anonymous No.20165271]

>>20165262
>he says while posting on an anime website

[Anonymous No.20165290]

>>20165271
>he thinks he is on 2chan

[Anonymous No.20165293]

>>20165290
Tell me who the site mascot is

[Anonymous No.20165298]

>>20159197
It's in mine. I also think it's not that great, only mnemerable for the movie. Worst story in the collection is Red Star, Winter Orbit. Gernsback Continuum is pretty good, I wish he didn't associate Golden Age SF aesthetics with the Nazis though, I'm not really sure what prompted that.

[Anonymous No.20165331]

>>20165293
moot-chan, obviously

[Anonymous No.20165338]

>>20161842
>present tense

[Anonymous No.20165392]

Is foundation worth reading after the original trilogy?

[Anonymous No.20165403]

>>20165331
Who?

[Anonymous No.20165575]

So I'm trying to read some LitRPGs after trying and generally enjoying He Who Fights With Monsters and I am frankly baffled that this one got anywhere near as high ratings as it did. Maybe it gets better, but the first 100 pages have been two guys who don't really act like people being Cool Military Dudes in some vaguely Chinese-esque isekai world and it doesn't really... Play it up at all. Characterisation is minimal, pacing is fucking atrocious, I'm not even sure what our two protagonists look like, everybody talks in a way that feels like they're either delivering plot OR being 'characters' and ne'er the twain shall meet... How the fuck are there 11 of these and how the fuck are they all so well-reviewed.

[Anonymous No.20165731]

>>20164798
Excellent

[Anonymous No.20165750]

Which fantasy book has the best cover?

[Anonymous No.20165854]

>>20165750
Any book that has a Frazetta painting.

[Anonymous No.20165858]

>>20164627
A penis and testicles.

[Anonymous No.20165860]

>>20165392
I sort of liked learning more about the deep state Second Foundation, I think it's still pretty decent

[Anonymous No.20165905]

>>20140079
Hey anon, thanks for making this recommendation. I read through the Soulhome series this weekend after seeing your post and I really enjoyed it.

I was bracing myself for the story to take a nosedive after Senka shows up but I was pleasantly surprised to see that Theo doesn't put up with her lol xd randum bullshit. I was worried that she would be used as a vehicle for some nauseating "cold hearted man learns the value of children and family :)" hallmark-tier plot but luckily that didn't happen.

Looking forward to reading the rest of the series as it comes out.

[Anonymous No.20165913]

>>20165575
You aren't the intended demographic.

[Anonymous No.20165915]

>>20165750

[Anonymous No.20165920]

>>20165913
Is the intended demographic dudebros?

[Anonymous No.20165921]

>>20165293
There are several mascots, for example: W.T. Snacks, is one.

[Anonymous No.20165923]

>>20165331
who?

[Anonymous No.20165927]

>>20165905
I tried to get into Soulhome and I just didn't really like it. Theo is a remarkably uninteresting protagonist, and I was extremely jarred by the shift from the prologue to chapter 1. How do you end the prologue on that and then go "Anyway 40 years later he somehow found his way back".

[Anonymous No.20165933]

>>20165927
40 years? Sounds like a biblical reference to me!

[Anonymous No.20165940]

>>20165920
I'll pretend you didn't ask that.

[Anonymous No.20165951]

>>20165940
I just don't really feel like I 'get' why this is liked. Its pacing is erratic, the action is bland, the characters are thin, the plot is banal. What's the appeal?

[Anonymous No.20165966]

>>20165915
That's not even the best Wheel of Time cover

[Anonymous No.20165970]

>>20165951
How it makes you feel. The quality of what's on the page doesn't matter so much.

[Anonymous No.20165978]

>>20165970
But it's not even well-written. I can get on board with "military dude gets isekai'd" but this is just bland to read. I'll power through book 1 at least, maybe it gets decent, but it's not a favourable start.

[Anonymous No.20165992]

>>20165966
absolute kino

[Anonymous No.20165999]

>>20165978
You keep mentioning technical aspects of the text, which matter less than you think. That's why you aren't the intended audience.

[Anonymous No.20166002]

>>20165999
Fair enough, I guess. The intended audience is people who don't actually read what they're reading, I guess.

[Anonymous No.20166014]

>>20164746
Mage errant is shit, why would anyone recommend it? Is this some grooming thing?

[Anonymous No.20166015]

>>20166014
What's shit about it?

[Anonymous No.20166022]

>>20165999
t. Sanderson.

[Anonymous No.20166027]

>>20166022
Sanderson is fucking obsessed with technical aspects of writing, though. To the point where all his writing (at least his more recent stuff) is well-crafted, if soulless.

[Anonymous No.20166033]

>>20166027
>Sanderson
>well-crafted

[Anonymous No.20166036]

>>20166027
Haha.
Anyway try reading Fritz Leiber, he could actually write.

[Anonymous No.20166041]

>>20166033
Yes. He's a competent writer. You can argue his writing lacks passion or whatever, but he's clearly good at putting words down in a way that works.

[Anonymous No.20166054]

>>20166015
The first book is terrible.
>Kid gets bullied constantly in magic school because he's useless.
>He gets a new jonin instructor and genin squad. They all explain every detail of their backstory to each other as a way of introduction. And our protag isn't actually useless he's actually super secretly advanced 720 cantrip noscope master and will become even more powerful when he signs contracts with demons.
>Then they go into the f̶o̶r̶e̶s̶t̶ ̶o̶f̶ ̶d̶o̶o̶m̶ Labyrinth as part of a exam
This is actually the highlight of the book, although it ends too soon and they basically deus ex machina their way out of the problem.

The second book is terrible.
>Author says: fuck the magic school, we're going on a field trip.
>They get on a sky boat and fly across the desert
>They get into fights constantly. Like the author is worried you'll get bored if he doesn't have random encounters so they pop up repeatedly.
>Our protag has a contract with a super secret ancient bird who says "Don't tell anyone I've got a super secret contract with you" then shows up constantly around him
>First they get into fights on the ariship against grown wizards and our school kid protagonists are killing them left and right. In the first book they wouldn't even fight the school bully.
>Then they're in a city and they're like "let's go to the taco store" and get in a fight every alley they walk by.
I stopped reading it before I even got to all the gay stuff that apparently dominates book 3.

[Anonymous No.20166076]

>>20166054
I can see what you mean with these issues, though I think you're overblowing the stuff for the second book and straight-up misremembering some things (they only get attacked once on the sandboat, which is a sandboat and not a flying one, the sphinx he's contracted with is only really worried about big deal mages finding out so the trader-people that run the ship aren't really a danger, and they're mostly carried by their teachers when any serious fighting starts, only doing well against random bandits with minimal training).

[Anonymous No.20166150]

I finished Reaper. What did I think of it?

[Anonymous No.20166152]

>>20166150
We don’t care what you think.

[Anonymous No.20166155]

>>20166054
What you describe as problems read to me as an author knowing their audience.

>He gets a new jonin instructor and genin squad.
>super secretly advanced 720 cantrip noscope master
I find it interesting that you use this references as insults, you but you have to know what they're from and why they would be. Why use the references at all? It seems like you're using an emotional shorthand appeal because you don't know how to support your argument otherwise. Ha ha guys, isn't it funny to hate on [popular well-liked] property? Also, look how ironic I am!

>author is worried you'll get bored if he doesn't have random encounters so they pop up repeatedly.
Isn't that the author simply knowing his audience has a very limited attention span? Seems like something that needs to be done to me.

>stopped reading it before I even got to all the gay stuff
How edgy, yet minimizing of you. Yeah, it was terrible and reading it condemns me in general by my standards, but at least I stopped before the gay stuff, right? Sure, sure. As if that were the actual problem.

[Anonymous No.20166157]

>>20166150
You still can't think for yourself anon? I thought you would have gotten better over the past five plus years.

[Anonymous No.20166160]

>>20166150
You didn't think anything of it at all because you emptied your mind to be able to read it.

[Anonymous No.20166164]

>>20166152
>we
>>>/v/

[Anonymous No.20166166]

Thoughts?

[Anonymous No.20166189]

>>20166155
>As if that were the actual problem.
It is the actual problem. He doesn't know what to write so he writes only what he thinks will appeal to the audience.
>These characters have interesting backstories, but how do I tell the audience? I'll just have them exposition dump.
>Maybe people thought the first book was too boring? Better add random encounters.
>Maybe I'm not getting enough progressive points? Better add gay drama.

[Anonymous No.20166195]

>>20166189
So...what's the alternative? Not writing something to appeal to your intended demographic? That seems like a successful way to fail.

[Anonymous No.20166217]

>>20164600
kirkbride wrote 300 books

[Anonymous No.20166243]

>>20166189
Speaking of the faggotry, guess the ethnicity of the author.

[Anonymous No.20166244]

>>20166195
First of all he should understand why something appeals to the audience. Unmotivated violence is rarely interesting. Usually, it should come about as a result of some action of the characters. For example, which is a better scenario:
>Character: We should go to the store to pick up some milk.
>*Violent thugs appear*
>Character: Oh well guess I gotta kill them all.
or
>Character: I need to go into the dangerous ancient tomb to find the gem that will cure the curse that's killing my mother
>*Violent thugs appear*
>Character: If you won't let me pass then I must kill you.

[Anonymous No.20166249]

>>20166244
The first is a common videogame scenario and what the audience wants.

[Anonymous No.20166253]

>>20166195
>So...what's the alternative?
Not appealing to faggots.

[Anonymous No.20166255]

>>20158939
just finished reading this but have no idea what happened. did dorcas and the rest of them die? is there a time skip between the first and the second book?

[Anonymous No.20166257]

>>20166255
It's just schizo rambling where you project whatever meaning you want to.

[Anonymous No.20166266]

>>20166255
>just finished reading this but have no idea what happened.
You have to reread it again.

[Anonymous No.20166269]

New thread
>>20166267

[Anonymous No.20166270]

>>20166253
golf clap

[Anonymous No.20166277]

Been meaning to ask this, but do we have a spambot in the thread?

[Anonymous No.20166282]

>>20166277
Yeah, this fag >>20158960 is either a spammer or a spambot.

[Anonymous No.20166285]

>>20166253

[Anonymous No.20166290]

>>20166255
keep in mind that all the books were written as one so the ending is counting on you reading the second book to make sense of it. I believe that sequence is meant to be disorientating as it is later re-told by Severian with a clearer picture of what happened

[Anonymous No.20166297]

>>20166269
>Bakkerfags already ruining the thread
They truly just can’t fuck off to their subreddit can they?

[Anonymous No.20166300]

>>20166297
Won't be long now mods just decide to ban /sffg/ on the spot due to their continual spamming and fuck ups outside of the general.

[Anonymous No.20166335]

>>20166150
Well anyway I have seen mention that Cradle will be complete within two books but where was that said? It was going to be 14 books originally but meh, I can see Lindon hitting Monarch in two books. Only the last step to go.

[Anonymous No.20166369]

>>20166300
That’s a shame. The rest of the General shouldn’t be punish for their faggot spamming and bullshit.

[Anonymous No.20166377]

>>20166369
Mods and spammer are all newfags.

[Anonymous No.20166553]

Old thread is turning to shit, and I doubt it will recover.

[Anonymous No.20166902]

>>20164032
Go fuck yourself, you disruptive, worthless trash person. Racism aside, your irrelevant /pol/ sperging has no place here. End yourself.

[Anonymous No.20167476]

>>20161917
I've got that sitting on a shelf somewhere, should crack it open

[Anonymous No.20168164]

>>20162814
>I´m reading Gormenghast and I'm bored with it
Same, boring ass steerpike and this bigass castle fujck that noise.