Post books that filtered you

[Anonymous No.20287912]

Post books you didn't get the first time. For whatever reason you couldn't finish.
For me it was picrel, I read the words okay but I'd finish a page and just be like "what have I just read"

[Anonymous No.20287921]

>>20287912
Quit after finishing the first book

[Anonymous No.20287931]

>>20287921
Wilson's a fag anyway.

[Anonymous No.20287935]

[Anonymous No.20287948]

>>20287931
Hes definitely the pinnacle of esoteric boomerism but sometimes hes good for a few laughs. The book read like a collection of unrelated events

[Anonymous No.20287961]

I dislike Twains writing style but I figured I should read more than his 2 most popular books to properly judge him. I also was really interested in the plot of the book. I couldn't get through it as it just kept going on and on and on with nothing being said, not even in a good way. Or suddenly within the same paragraph the book jumps in time literal years. I got about 3/4 of the way done and got discouraged so I looked up the ending online and hated it so I saw no reason to finish.

[Anonymous No.20287974]

>>20287935
Some excerpts https://poets.org/poem/tender-buttons-objects

>A CARAFE, THAT IS A BLIND GLASS.

>A kind in glass and a cousin, a spectacle and nothing strange a single hurt color and an arrangement in a system to pointing. All this and not ordinary, not unordered in not resembling. The difference is spreading.

>GLAZED GLITTER.

>Nickel, what is nickel, it is originally rid of a cover.

>The change in that is that red weakens an hour. >The change has come. There is no search. But there is, there is that hope and that interpretation and sometime, surely any is unwelcome, sometime there is breath and there will be a sinecure and charming very charming is that clean and cleansing. Certainly glittering is handsome and convincing.

>There is no gratitude in mercy and in medicine. >There can be breakages in Japanese. That is no programme. That is no color chosen. It was chosen yesterday, that showed spitting and perhaps washing and polishing. It certainly showed no obligation and perhaps if borrowing is not natural there is some use in giving.

>ROASTBEEF.

>In the inside there is sleeping, in the outside there is reddening, in the morning there is meaning, in the evening there is feeling. In the evening there is feeling. In feeling anything is resting, in feeling anything is mounting, in feeling there is resignation, in feeling there is recognition, in feeling there is recurrence and entirely mistaken there is pinching. All the standards have steamers and all the curtains have bed linen and all the yellow has discrimination and all the circle has circling. This makes sand.

>Very well. Certainly the length is thinner and the rest, the round rest has a longer summer. To shine, why not shine, to shine, to station, to enlarge, to hurry the measure all this means nothing if there is singing, if there is singing then there is the resumption.

[Anonymous No.20288086]

Amazing book, but it was so fucking intense. I'm steeling myself for my next attempt.

Honourable mention to Clarice Lispector's Agua Viva, which is also unbearably intense.

[Anonymous No.20288248]

>>20288086
>reading women
>"filtered"

fuck neech but he has one good one on this

>Man thinks woman profound -- why? Because he can never fathom her depths. Woman is not even shallow

[Anonymous No.20288254]

>>20287912

Would recommend going back to pale fire if it's been a while. I put it down the first time I tried a few years ago then came back a few months ago and it's one of my favorite books I've read. Maybe switch up your strategy too

[Anonymous No.20288443]

[Anonymous No.20288457]

>>20287912
Good thread. If you are thinking I didn't answered the question: i don't get filtered cuz I use the power of patience which never fails

[Anonymous No.20288472]

Wittgenstein. I'll figure it out one day, but not today.

[Anonymous No.20288492]

>>20288248
epic

[Anonymous No.20288493]

>>20287912
Aristotle's Metaphysics

[Anonymous No.20288567]

>>20287912
I literally understood nothing. English is not my mother tongue and the translation was kinda archaic. Every other sentence had thy or thee in it and it immediately pulled me out because i wanted to read it as you but my little brain was unable to transform as i read. also there were lots of words i didnt know its meaning and i didnt bother to look them up.
If anyone knows any modern translation I'd like to try to read it again. I'm also more familiar with philosopy books now compared to then when i first read this book.

[Anonymous No.20288597]

>>20288443
It's an interesting read, certainly.
But I'm a borderline autist with an obsession with understanding the formulation of systems and the kind of thinking that informs them, so, yeah, I get it.
I also didn't make it past the first 100 pages on my initial attempt.

[Anonymous No.20288648]

>LOTR
Got about 100 pages into FOTR. I felt bombarded by the genealogies, songs, poems, histories, I simply couldn't enjoy myself. It felt like I was studying for exam rather than enjoying a journey. I love the films to pieces.
>gender trouble by Judith butler
Complete gobbledygook and the worst thing I read in college

[Anonymous No.20288670]

>>20287912
I don’t get Lispector at all. Might be a translation issue.

[Anonymous No.20288697]

>>20287912
I was gonna post that I got filtered by that one too but now that I think about it I can at least propose some extremely vague theories to myself about what he might have intended by it, which is better than I could do before. Also the first line of the poem got used in a great song by the Menzingers.

[Anonymous No.20288961]

>>20287912
>Kierkegaard
Was a pleasing read, but I didn't understand nor can I recall any of it, specially Sickness Unto Death.
>Nausea
Didn't enjoy it a single bit. Got nothing out of it except that Sartre hates most things but humanists in particular and living is icky except when you're listening to jazz.

[Anonymous No.20288978]

>>20287912
On my third attempt at passing the basedbar
I’m beginning to blame Russia instead of myself

[Anonymous No.20289014]

snow country. not even 200 pages, but somehow it just dragged on and on

[Anonymous No.20289026]

>>20288443
Give me a quick rundown on this, I've never been able to understand what it's "about".
Which makes me worry it's just scattershot pop-psych that will help you understand the universe duuuude.

[Anonymous No.20289130]

>>20289026
It gives you the same sense of the true nature of mathematics that you would have developed over the course of earning a 4-year degree in math.

[Anonymous No.20289159]

>>20289014
It's a bad translation

[Anonymous No.20289245]

>>20288567
It’s ironic as it’s supposed to be a diary, so these kinds of translations have been somewhat criticized, though if you read the reviews on Amazon you should know which one does what.

[Anonymous No.20289252]

>>20287912
the bible
do androids dream of electric sheep
quran

i still haven't finished quran. androids took me 3 tries before it clicked. bible took many tries but that seems to be true for everyone.

[Anonymous No.20289294]

>>20288457
Dangerously based

[Anonymous No.20289348]

>>20289014
Snow Country for Old Men?

[Anonymous No.20289698]

>>20288254
Not op but I can relate. I felt like I 'got it' but it wasn't as clever or funny as Nabakov seemed to think it was. More like beating on the same dead (gay) joke page after page.

[Anonymous No.20289717]

>>20289698
That's what a lot of satirical novels feel like to me honestly. But I liked Gulliver's Travels.

>>20288978
lmao is this cover real

[Anonymous No.20289763]

I got filtered by the bible the first time around for the same reason I bet most people in the wetsern world do. Genesis is one of the most symbolically dense pieces of writing ever made in all of history and is filled with layers of boring genealogy, people keep getting smote and genocided over and over, seemingly and seemingly boring stories without obvious points. Then Exodus comes up next and Moses kills a guy, God hardens pharo's heart and kills a bunch of people via plagues and an angel. Then the isrealites smash and kill everyone in the area, a bunch of drama happens, purity laws are baffling at first, the book of numbers is criminally boring, etc etc. By the time I got to David, I was just burned out and completely filtered.
Then this year I made a commitment to make it all the way through, and by the final words of Revelations, every single piece that filtered me before made sense to me (at least somewhat), and now I see the bible as a whole as what it IS, and not what I expected it to be (the story of hippie "love your neighbor and never judge anybody" jesus). If any anons are interested but never made it all the way through, just make a commitment to NOT get filtered, and you'll likely be happy you did.

[Anonymous No.20289949]

>>20287974
holy guacamole, batman, I thought she was a woman of good taste

[Anonymous No.20290380]

[Anonymous No.20290388]

>>20289294
why dangerously? where does the danger dwell?

[Anonymous No.20290498]

>>20290388
in patience

[Anonymous No.20290536]

Fahrenheit 451, so boring i just can't make it past page 30, i See it on my shelf and want to finish it just so that i'm done with it and can forget about it. but the thought of reading another page in this terrible book is even worse than the thought of an unfinished book on my shelf, so fuck it

[Anonymous No.20290562]

>>20289763
i just wish it wasn't a religious text so anybody would take me serious when i say that the bible is my favorite book. i love the language in which it is written and the imagery it contains

[Anonymous No.20290565]

>>20287912
In the preface of The Will And Representation, Schopenhauer says that you need to read Kant’s Critique of Pure Reason beforehand, which I had not at the time, so I guess I got filtered due to lack of prerequisite knowledge.

[Anonymous No.20290566]

Is there any merit to this book? Or just 200+ pages of schizophrenic rambling?

[Anonymous No.20290574]

>>20288457
I don't get filtered because I can always pick the book up later.

[Anonymous No.20290584]

>>20290536
I'm with this one, didn't get filtered but I wish I had, the end was so underwhelming and disconnected

[Anonymous No.20290585]

I got to Oxen of the Sun and said fuck this gibberish

[Anonymous No.20290601]

>>20290498
i still dont understand you, patience is a virtue as far as i know

[Anonymous No.20290623]

>>20290562
the language of which translation?
tried to read KJV Bible but it was bad

[Anonymous No.20290657]

>>20289717
>>20289698
its not satirical. why is it so popular to read this as a statement of all novels.

[Anonymous No.20290658]

>>20287912

[Anonymous No.20290679]

Couldn't stand Borges' Ficciones. Complete shit. Gobbledegook.

[Anonymous No.20290913]

>>20290657
It portrays an exaggeratedly delusional character, its whole premise is based on dramatic irony, and the purpose seems to be to criticize and ridicule a particular way of approaching literature. Do you disagree with that characterization of the book's purpose and methods?

[Anonymous No.20290941]

>>20290623
KJV is goated fr fr no cap

[Anonymous No.20292210]

>>20290562
Schlachter 2000

[Anonymous No.20292622]

>>20288567
Penguin classics uses modern English. Still there are phrases and words that I had to look up. The footnotes are good too there in that edition.

[Anonymous No.20292687]

>>20288648
>genealogies, songs, poems, histories
I have no idea how these came to be viewed as a bad thing

[Anonymous No.20292708]

Any pomo novel. theres something kind of cringey about the way theyre written.

[Anonymous No.20292745]

I'm getting filtered right now. The chapter about whale physiology didn't phase me but all this perspective shifting around Ahab and the crew is just not doing it for me.

[Anonymous No.20292799]

>>20289763
I read the NT like half a year ago, took a break to read some other stuff, just read the pentateuch and am taking another break. I’ve been cycling between the Bible, church fathers and later mystics.
I read Judges through Kings 2 years ago and liked it so looking forward to reading it again with different eyes.
Dante filtered me because I read all the introductory essays and end notes and it really drags it out when I don’t have a ton of time. I’m going to pick it up again but may just read it and not stress over every little note by someone else.

[Anonymous No.20292915]

>>20289252
>do androids dream of electric sheep
literally entry level PKD, go watch a movie you mongoloid

[Anonymous No.20292927]

>>20287912
mason and dixon, i got to page 100 or so. maybe i'll give it another try eventually

[Anonymous No.20292932]

>>20288443
The actual interesting parts are drowned in an ocean of near-manic meaningless hysteria. Fuck this book
>inb4 filtered

[Anonymous No.20292944]

>>20288670
>Might be a translation issue.
It ISN'T! kek

[Anonymous No.20292957]

>>20288670
what's to get
>le womanhood... hard
>is... is that a COCKROACH AHHHHH AAAAAHHH NOOOO AHHHHH AHHHHHHHH
>everything's aliveeeee lmaooo
>2cool4you
overrated cunt

[Anonymous No.20293037]

>>20287912
Mein Kampf came off as rambling.
Maybe it's just the English translation, but I couldn't make sense of it.

[Anonymous No.20293050]

>>20292799
Aside from it being red aloud by somebody in church, I'm getting back into reading it.

Comparing different English language versions.
Like today I was reading for comparison the Douay Rheims VS the CEV.

[Anonymous No.20293051]

>>20293037
Do you think you're the only one? It's notorious for being schizo ramblings with no logical connection from start to finish

[Anonymous No.20293089]

It's 2 books for me, both Russian
>the Master and Margarita
For the first half I felt like I was missing too many winks towards life in 1950s Russia but I pushed through. Then the second half completely devolves into a weird LSD nightmare and I literally lost the plot
>War and Peace
Just straight up boring and I don't mean it in the brainlet way of "book too long". It's just that Tolstoy takes too long to make things happen and it's not even in the name of worldbuilding since he doesn't bother too much with that, he just smashes character after character into the plot and tries to give them all depth but 90% of them are just one trick ponies that can be fully described like "fat jolly spendthrift", "man with speech impediment", etc. Ultimately almost none of them do anything plot-wise and some significant character development happens "off screen" which is ridiculous in a book this long

[Anonymous No.20293095]

>>20290913
>and the purpose seems to be to criticize and ridicule a particular way of approaching literature
this part. not only is it reductive but its completely misleading as to the purpose of the book (it would be retarded to write a book this long and complicated if the point was to make That point repeatedly, not to mention how uncharacteristic it would be of nab to "make a point"), the role of kinbote beyond an antagonist (like his very suggestive and strange similarities with shade, also both of their simmilarities with nab when it comes to their literary tastes, distaste for freud, "symbolism"...) and nabs own approach to analysis (very speculative and detail oriented, definitely transgressing authorial intent at places. also the idea of the book was inspired by his own commentary on eugene onegin i believe)

[Anonymous No.20293409]

>>20293095
Good points, I suppose I'm not familiar enough with Nabokov's idiosyncrasies to interpret it properly (or maybe it's obvious and I'm just coping, but he does seem pretty idiosyncratic even compared to other "difficult" authors). But was he not trying to "make a point" in any way with Lolita? I haven't read it but it certainly seems like the whole "count on a murderer for a fancy prose style" thing suggests some sort of attempt at illustrating a point about appearance vs reality, which can of course also be connected to PF. But I guess what you're saying is that dealing with that theme is more complicated for him than a simple condemnation of delusion or falsehood.

[Anonymous No.20294791]

>>20287931
Who?

[Anonymous No.20294850]

>>20288086
I got filtered as soon as I looked at the Early Childhood section of her Wikipedia page.

[Anonymous No.20295100]

>>20293409
again with how complicated lolita is, and how many huge details pass by everyone, including the dedicated nabokov scholars, the idea of him trying to make a point with it (especially as general a point as condemning deception) is like the birth of venus making a point about beauty or bach making a point about god in a fugue to me. i dont think he was dealing with or referring to any deception that exists outside of the book, it was only an artistic tool.

[Anonymous No.20295119]

>>20294850
Alright

[Anonymous No.20295123]

>>20290536
You must be underage, surely. I read it when I was like, 12.

[Anonymous No.20295132]

>>20287961
I just bought this book because I wanted tp read his style. I always hated it but now I want to read something overly written because my grandfather has just passed and he used to always tell stories in the same manner. He was a very southern old man.

[Anonymous No.20295145]

>>20295100
Well, there is in fact a full, legitimate tradition of satirical novels/poems/plays that have a general guiding theme or moral, and based on Nabokov's polemical attitude to criticism in the popular meme quotes I guess I just assumed it made perfect sense for him to be writing a satire about literary attitudes. The approach you speak of seems much more "native" to visual art and music than to novels but I believe your assertion that he intended it that way, I'm just saying that to think that way to the extent he did is certainly eccentric, for better or worse.

[Anonymous No.20295489]

>>20295145
no i do see all that. kinbote's approach isnt presented very favourably after all, but thats just kind of where the book begins for me when i see a lot of people say that that is the point.
>The approach you speak of seems much more "native" to visual art and music than to novels
literature should be written and read this way first and foremost imo when-especially here-the notion of fiction as bait for an ideology is too common

[Anonymous No.20297394]

>>20287921
same, the narrative wasn´t as interesting

[Anonymous No.20297929]

>>20290380
You live in the post scarcity world with every conceivable pleasure and pain at your fingertips. You think you know hunger but it's just boredom with all the choices. You'll never understand what it is to be very hungry.

[Anonymous No.20298492]

>>20288567
The best translation was made by "Gregory Hays".