/lit/ - Literature

[Anonymous No.20887475]

Can someone explain to me what the fuck CCRU and Nick Land were talking about when they wrote about Lemurian time wars or time sorcery?

[Anonymous No.20887551]

Just say no to accfag spam.

[Anonymous No.20887983]

>>20887551
It's too late

[Anonymous No.20888220]

according to nick, bitcoin gives us absolute kantian time and solves the problem of time
what the fuck does this mean i have no clue, i watched a youtube video once of someone explaining it and it made sense in that moment, but i have forgotten since then and i wish i knew again

i also forgot what lemurs were all about, but there used to be a scientific theory that is now debunked, how existence of lemurs proves existence of another continent from which lemurs originated, nick and ccru took it and made a story about some 2 secret continents waging war against each other but us on the normal continents dont know about it

[Anonymous No.20888326]

>>20888220
>the problem of time
What was wrong with it before?

[Anonymous No.20888330]

>>20888220
can you find the YouTube video please

[Anonymous No.20888368]

>>20888220
Do you understand why they would make up a story about two secret continents? There must be some message being conveyed, but I can't really grasp what it is.

[Anonymous No.20888414]

>>20887475 >>>/wsg/4696283

[Anonymous No.20888759]

>>20888326
time is very important for land, stuff is constantly arriving from the future

[Anonymous No.20888779]

>>20888368
It's William S. Burroughs story to begin with. Start with him. For him, the Atlanteans represent the oppressive globalist neoliberal order of dropping bombs, doing eugenics and selling worthless trash to the plebs. The Lemurians were the real trads actually, and they fought for a spiritual transcendent order and did so through time sorcery while the Atlanteans were masters of technology and brute force. The war is still going on, either as a reverberation from the past or simply it's a real time war that never ends until one or the other's civilization is reestablished.

[Anonymous No.20888878]

>>20888779
Great, another dualist conflict. So who's won? Or it wasn't decided?

[Anonymous No.20888916]

>>20888878
Hyperstition means that the past, present, and future are all tied together and loop in on itself. It's a fancy form of predestined, or perhaps cyclical, meme magic. So obviously the Atlanteans won.

[Anonymous No.20889854]

It's always nice to see a Land thread going every day.

[Anonymous No.20890318]

>tfw you want to get into land so you start reading thirst for annihilation because it is his 'easiest work to get into' and you read the first fucking 20 pages of preface and you are already maximally confused
maybe im just supposed to read porn light novels, the ones with minimum text, i dont know

[Anonymous No.20890554]

>>20888414
gemmy

[Anonymous No.20890629]

>>20890318
Sauce?

[Anonymous No.20891151]

>>20889854
this but unironically

[Anonymous No.20891203]

>>20890318
His fiction is the most entertaining, aka the second half of fanged noumena

[Anonymous No.20891209]

>>20888326
>What was wrong with it before?
Have you ever experienced time? This shit is awful.

[Anonymous No.20891224]

>>20890318
>thirst for annihilation
>It's like 60 fucking dollars

[Anonymous No.20891502]

>>20887551
hey, beats christniggers and their seethebrain takes on neesha

[Anonymous No.20891504]

what happened? why does /lit/ discussing Land/Acc now exclusively become late teen brains going off twitter aesthetics and youtube videos asking questions and “debating” like sophomoric girls who have never even read a Plato dialogue?

This is a pre school level thread on the most contemporary strain of philosophy. What is wrong with this place? Surely plebbit isn’t even as bad as this!

[Anonymous No.20891526]

>>20887475
Why did he become a nazi?

[Anonymous No.20891535]

>>20888220
interesting you say this anon. I watched this vid yesterday from some Britfag who touches on it briefly at about 19:00 and i had no idea what the fuck he was talking about.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gx5j2_S84iM&t=530s

[Anonymous No.20891553]

>>20891504
Most people who read land are trannies/mentally ill, and the level of discourse reflects that.

[Anonymous No.20891763]

>>20891526
because he said he cant divorce leftism from this humanist narrative how there are these great trustworthy human agents who will do what needs to be done, while material and capital are just there, material and capital are 'just things' according to land's analysis of leftism
early land was all about emancipation, but later on he started believing that its actually material and capital that will get emancipated from humanity, not the other way around
also land never became a nazi, its just that the right wingers are unironically more tolerant when it comes to ideas than the left, do he met moldbug who is saying that we should basically have all the systems and ideas all at once, and we should let people just freely move between different systems and ideologies until they find what works best for them, and moldbug also criticizes humanist/egalitarian elements a lot so he briefly wrote stuff with him

>>20891553
you cant honestly say that reading land isnt fun, can you? i think main land readers are just cyberpunk fans

[Anonymous No.20891783]

>>20891763
>its just that the right wingers are unironically more tolerant when it comes to ideas than the left
lmaooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

[Anonymous No.20892369]

>>20887475
>Nick Land
Who?

[Anonymous No.20892406]

>>20891783
It is, in fact, true. Cope.

[Anonymous No.20893208]

>>20891783
all the censors today are leftists

[Anonymous No.20893937]

bump from page 10

[Anonymous No.20895602]

>>20892369
This man, in my country he is everything

[Anonymous No.20895617]

>>20895602
Wtf i want to move there now

[Anonymous No.20896527]

>>20895602
which country?

[Anonymous No.20897041]

>>20887475
You have to understand, Land was riding a stimulant high staying up for multiple days straight. You cannot reach this level of truth by going to work and acting normal

[Anonymous No.20897047]

Fuck off with the spam accfag.

[Anonymous No.20897064]

>>20891526
land could never be a nazi because land is anti human, and nazis are pro human still, white humans though.

[Anonymous No.20897075]

>>20887475
Is Urbanomic any good? They just seem like a bunch of intellectual hipsters to me.

[Anonymous No.20897123]

>>20892406
>>20893208
You rightoids screech thunderously when confronted with opposing viewpoints and you know it

[Anonymous No.20897329]

>>20893208
What about all that Don't Say Gay business, and various book bannings and shit? I'm a class-first Marxist of the kind that's very sick of woke liberal censorship, and I'll agree strongly with you that they're currently being censorious as fuck, but you can't deny that it's just a shitfight of everyone trying to censor everyone else

[Anonymous No.20897419]

>>20897329
>NOOOOOO YOU HAVE TO LET US TALK ABOUT SEXUALITY AS EARLY AS WE WANT
kys. early education is not supposed to be a forum of ideas. it's supposed to be handing down a moral compass that's suitable for a young child. it's repulsive to try to get kids to think about sexuality before they even hit puberty.

[Anonymous No.20897430]

>>20897419
abominably based

[Anonymous No.20897438]

>>20897075
>Urbanomic
I know that Yuk Hui is pretty good

[Anonymous No.20897515]

>>20890318
Start with the collected writings of the ccru instead

[Anonymous No.20897528]

>>20897329
>you can't deny that it's just a shitfight of everyone trying to censor everyone else
I mean, do you really need it explained to you why this is a horrible point to make?

[Anonymous No.20897529]

>>20897419
> handing down a moral compass that's suitable for a young child
>you can’t indoctrinate young children! Except if it’s with ideas I like
Midwit cope
I think we should disturb children with the deep chasm of the world even more

[Anonymous No.20897553]

>>20897529
There are plenty of non-sexual ways to introduce children to the deep chasm of the world, if that's something you really want to do

[Anonymous No.20897561]

>>20897553
>noooooo I’m an evangelist teaching children about all the rape and murder in the Bible at an early age is okay but you can’t show two men holding hands!!!!!

[Anonymous No.20898181]

>>20897561
>muh leftism is all about gay faggotry
im talking about seeing swastika being the end of the world, while having a tattoo or hammer and sickle is considered nothing
no one is getting kicked out of universities for being a communist, even tho communist killed 10 times more people, in peacetime

[Anonymous No.20898218]

>>20897529
Why do you want to steal their innocence so badly? What did kids do to you?

[Anonymous No.20898245]

>>20898181
>no one is getting kicked out of universities for being a communist, even tho communist killed 10 times more people, in peacetime
How many people were killed during the crusades? The inquisition? Vietnam? Afghanistan? Dying at age 30 from all the chemicals they inhale making your cheap clothes and consumer products? I don’t see any of those ideologies getting you into trouble either
>>20898218
Insufficiently disturbed children turn into ignorant manchildren and those are the ones I despise

[Anonymous No.20898270]

>>20898245
>dying at 30 from chemicals
you do realize the alternative is dying to khmer rouge which killed 25% of the population just for wearing glasses, right?
free markets and capitalism lets you choose if you want to become a doctor/engineer and make 6 digits starting, or if you want to be a factory slave
communism forces you to be a factory slave and you cant even own property
talk about oppression lmao

[Anonymous No.20900293]

>>20895617
>>20896527
China. Have you got your tickets yet?

[Anonymous No.20901524]

>>20887475
They were talking about philosophy, duh.

[Anonymous No.20901547]

>>20887475
Who the fuck is Nick Land?

[Anonymous No.20901814]

>>20891224

https://b-ok.cc/book/916770/89c526

here retard