/sffg/ - Science Fiction and Fantasy General

[Anonymous No.21035289]

Hauntings Edition

Previous Thread:>>21021207

>Recommended reading charts (Look here before asking for vague recs)
https://mega.nz/folder/kj5hWI6J#0cyw0-ZdvZKOJW3fPI6RfQ/folder/guIyhAzS

>Archive
>>/lit/?task=search2&search_subject=sffg

>Goodreads
https://www.goodreads.com/group/show/1029811-sffg

[Anonymous No.21035294]

>tfw no one on /lit/ has read this 19th century sci-fi novel

[Anonymous No.21035407]

>>21035289
>remember happening upon picrel as a kid at a cafe/bookstore combo
>it was full of biblical drawings along with star charts and machinery sketches
>also had aliens in it
>"huh weird book"
>move on
Its lived in my head rent free for a decade now. Copiously combed google and actually found what I think to be it. "UFOs and Extra Terrestrials by Yves Naud" Any of you anons read it or seen anything quite matching all this info?

[Anonymous No.21035449]

Elric of Melbourne was a flop
Can't bring myself to finish the second book, it's all very boring and feels like it was written for kids.

Needs new recs. Iv read everything already.

[Anonymous No.21035450]

If you were about to publish a book, would you use AI to generate your cover art?

[Anonymous No.21035479]

>>21035450
I can't think this is really on topic

[Anonymous No.21035484]

>>21035479
Shaovokiw
Ttheaetndeees7on
I would read that book.

[Anonymous No.21035485]

>>21035289
> pic related

Name of movie please?

[Anonymous No.21035492]

Read Reverend Insanity and experience the grimdark brutality of the Gu world. Discard shitty isekai and their whine Japanese buttboi protagonists. Embrace the Chinese chad that pulls enemies out by the roots.

[Anonymous No.21035515]

>>21035450
No because they're all built on data sets of copyright images, and everything they produce is (c) 5 random dudes, unattributed. It's going to be just like the stock photo jewery all over again. Someone is going to build a copyright claim AI and you'll get raped.

[Anonymous No.21035570]

Are there any decent fantasy books with naturalistic dialogue?

[Anonymous No.21035700]

>>21035570
I'll bite, what's naturalistic dialogue?

[Anonymous No.21035743]

>>21035700
When the dialogue is somewhat close to how people speak in real life. A back-and-forth with imperfections and interjections, rather than characters taking turns monologuing at each other.

[Anonymous No.21035759]

>>21035743
Most good dialogue isn't written like that because people are actually really awkward and frustrating to see speaking.

[Anonymous No.21035786]

>>21035570
Stormlight archives

[Anonymous No.21035864]

>>21035786
>It's a Shallan is being "witty" chapter

[Anonymous No.21035921]

What are some books like Thief 1 and 2?

[Anonymous No.21036079]

>>21035570
Just read JR. I don't think anyone is better than Gaddis at naturalistic dialogue, at least not that I've read

[Anonymous No.21036135]

>>21035921
The Fafhrd and the Grey Mouser stories.

[Anonymous No.21036418]

>>21035759
I know it doesn't make for the best prose, but it can be very immersive if done well. Hemingway wrote some, for example.

>>21036079
Thanks for the tip anon, I'll look him up. I've only run into this sort of dialogue in genre fiction like once or twice. Steakley had some great such segments in one of his novels.

>>21035786
Okay fantasy books, but I don't think the dialogue was either very naturalistic or stylistic. Or noteworthy at all, really.

[Anonymous No.21036669]

>>21035921

[Anonymous No.21036720]

read cradle

[Anonymous No.21036788]

>MC has casual sex
>Dropped
Simple

[Anonymous No.21036810]

god i fucking hate branderson and shitlight archive, i'm going to kill that faggot that tricked me into reading these shitty books by giving the first one to me for my birthday claiming this series was a trilogy, especially this last turd that he calls a rhythm of war. I've been reading it for the past month and it feels like it will never end
>inb4 drop it
my autism wont let me, hell, it will make me read the next pile of shit he vomits because lol grand epic fantasy lmao XD, but there is no way in hell that i'm reading the second half of his planned 10 books

[Anonymous No.21036831]

What the fuck was his problem?

[Anonymous No.21036860]

>>21035449
Corums books are better than Elrics, give Knight of Swords a try.
Also rec: Bridge of Birds, Assassin's Apprentice and Titus Groan

[Anonymous No.21036901]

>>21036810
it take you one month to read one book
bro...

[Anonymous No.21036928]

>>21036418
I might've misunderstood, JR isn't really a fantasy novel. It's just my first thought when people talk about natural dialogue. I'd still give it a recommendation anyways, but its topics are very American

[Anonymous No.21037100]

First for David Gemmell.

[Anonymous No.21037154]

>>21037100
Based

[Anonymous No.21037171]

>>21035294
I saw a used copy of this lying for free on the side of the road once and googled it, thought it sounded pretty cool
Is it good? Happy to see this on /lit/

[Anonymous No.21037183]

>>21037171
>for free on the side of the road once

[Anonymous No.21037189]

>>21037183
It was one of those stacks people put up when they are too lazy to bring books they don't want to a public book case

[Anonymous No.21037193]

>>21037171
The English translation cuts out the more interesting bits. The German original is a glorious journey and potpourri of everything you'd want in an old sci-fi book from 125 years ago.

[Anonymous No.21037195]

>>21036901
I mostly read before bed and take 1~4 weeks to finish books. It still adds up to a lot if you're consistent about it.

[Anonymous No.21037220]

I saw the buried giant a couple of times in the chart. Is it good? Should I read it?

[Anonymous No.21037242]

what are some lesser known public domain sci fi stories i can draw from?
t. working on an autistic pulp fiction worldbuilding project.
what do you fellows think of Gladiator by Phillip Wylie?

[Anonymous No.21037252]

>>21037242
Make something new out of Niels Klim's Underground Travels and I will forever love you.

[Anonymous No.21037290]

>>21037100
>>21037154
>What is your name?
>Why?
>So I can mark your grave.

[Anonymous No.21037303]

>>21037252
after having googled it, i think i'll use this. it'd be interesting to try and mix it with other hollow earth stuff like The Lost World.
i do hope you won't mind that i'll be including it in a universe containing various capeshit characters which have fallen into the public domain. (i get the feeling /lit/ doesn't like comic books very much.)

[Anonymous No.21037344]

>>21037303
>spoiler
You're on the wrong board. You need /co/

[Anonymous No.21037350]

>>21037303
The only comics I enjoy are by Jim Woodring and Moebius.

[Anonymous No.21037356]

>>21037344
i'm incorporating /lit/ content alongside /co/ content into my autistic worldbuilding project as well. which is why i'm here asking for public domain sci fi to include.
so far i've settled on
>the obvious ones like Frankenstein
>Gladiator, by Philip Wylie
>The Lost World
>John Carter series
>elements of H. P. Lovecraft's Cthulhu Mythos, chiefly his 1922 story Re-Animator

[Anonymous No.21037532]

>>21035289
Is there some good (actually good) fantasy series that happens in an oriental country? Something with a similiar vibe to Jade Fantasy?

[Anonymous No.21037621]

>>21035921
My book I'll never write

[Anonymous No.21037644]

>>21037532
Cradle happens in a vaguely Chinese-ish continent with a more European continent and African continent existing too but not really playing major parts except for 'some characters are from there'.

[Anonymous No.21037647]

>>21037532
Long Price Quartet. I only read first book but liked it a lot

[Anonymous No.21037652]

Just checking in since it's been a couple of years, hope you guys are doing well. Did Bakker ever release anything after TUC?

[Anonymous No.21037657]

https://www.oprahdaily.com/entertainment/books/g41315629/best-fantasy-books/

Surprisingly similar to /sffg/

[Anonymous No.21037691]

>>21037657
>Jemesin, rothfuss, lynch in the top ten
Absolutely disgusting

[Anonymous No.21037738]

>>21037193
Danke Brudi ;)

[Anonymous No.21037797]

>>21037193
Has it ever been re-translated?

[Anonymous No.21037837]

>>21035407
I think I might've seen a copy of this at a local bookshop. I'll see if I can find it when it opens up on Tuesday

[Anonymous No.21037940]

>>21035492
shilling an incomplete webnovel? you are courting death! cut off and present your right arm to me and I might leave your corpse intact.

[Anonymous No.21038027]

>>21037940
>cut off all your limbs and prostate yourself and I might leave your corpse intact
except it's in pieces at that point what are these insane psychos talking about

[Anonymous No.21038132]

>>21038027
young punk, how dare you disrespect an elder from the golden crescent 9/11 sect. I will extinguish your family 3 generations.

[Anonymous No.21038294]

>>21036788
>protag saw a girl naked and now he has to marry her

[Anonymous No.21038371]

>>21036788
What's wrong with realism in your books?

[Anonymous No.21038425]

>Trying to write whacky and insane, out there fantasy and sci fi stories
>Have trouble writing them because they seem more suited for a visual medium
What do I do?

[Anonymous No.21038429]

>>21038425
lrn2draw

[Anonymous No.21038456]

>Trying to write whacky and insane, out there fantasy and sci fi stories
>Have trouble writing them because they seem more suited for a visual medium
What do I do?

[Anonymous No.21038462]

What's with all these Chinese fantasy books now?

Feels like many of these authors take some Chinese history, generally the Opium War, throw a few stereotypical Ming shit, watch Disney Mulan, then turn it into a fantasy novel.

[Anonymous No.21038487]

>>21038462
You are being groomed for subordination.

[Anonymous No.21038503]

read cradle

[Anonymous No.21038546]

>>21036831
Greed

[Anonymous No.21038622]

>>21036788
I drop a book instantly if there's a hint of NTR

[Anonymous No.21038625]

>>21038462
It's easy to gain clout by writing about women and/or pocs and/or white imperialism is LE BAD, so why not combine them all?

[Anonymous No.21038760]

>>21038462
Anything that isn't standard European setting is getting published in droves these days. These chinese settings are interesting at first but so many of them turn into trite allegories for Biggest Moments of Chinese Butthurt in History.

[Anonymous No.21038883]

>>21038462
Qrd on the series? I read about half of the first book, but dropped it because the female lead was annoying. I heard she commits some war crimes.

[Anonymous No.21038917]

>>21038760
The worst part is they feel all very similar. A female MC, being a badass, rebelling against the Emperor in charge and causing some fuck up only to be redeemed at the end. It's very western oriented.

If it was an eastern story, instead of rejecting random boy, they embrace the marriage,and use the boy and his family to reach higher heights. Like that dumb darling in the franxx rip-off. Used the empress Qi, but it's well known she ruled by killing the old ass emperor, places her son on the throne, then ruled through him that's the story they should be written

[Anonymous No.21039156]

I've always heard that Warhammer 40k had some great Sci-Fi action books that are Heinlein inspired and I just went to go check out the series I'd heard the most about and holy fucking shit
>1 of 54
I'm not reading 50 fucking books. Which ones are actually good?

[Anonymous No.21039216]

>>21039156
The "best" ones are probably the Gaunts Ghosts series, but they're still not that good. Nowhere near comparable to Heinlein. The 40k book are basically all low tier at best.
The best Warhammer books overall that I've read are the Gotrek and Felix stories, but they're Warhammer Fantasy rather than 40k.

[Anonymous No.21039440]

>>21039156
I really liked Eisenhorn and Ravenor series by Dan Abnett. His Gaunt's Ghosts are also good.

[Anonymous No.21039462]

>>21035289
Do you think vampires would taste the various blood types as different flavors?

[Anonymous No.21039486]

>>21035289
People actually think this is good writing:
>The Wheel of Time turns, and Ages come and pass, leaving memories that become legend. Legend fades to myth, and even myth is long forgotten when the Age that gave it birth comes again. In one Age, called the Third Age by some, an Age yet to come, an Age long past, a wind rose in the Mountains of Mist. The wind was not the beginning. There are neither beginnings nor endings to the turning of the Wheel of Time. But it was a beginning.
Wow, just wow.

[Anonymous No.21039495]

>>21039486
People actually think this is good writing:
>"He buggered you?" Saubon cried out. It was a crime among the Gaeoth, using a man as a woman. It was a shame like no other. Among all the buzzing terrors, Proyas realized that he would forever bear this tain in Coithus Saubon's eyes. That he would, in some measure, be a woman. Weak, unreliable in the ways of manhood and war ...
Wow, just wow.

[Anonymous No.21039511]

>>21039486
Explain to us what is wrong with it, oh mighty brainjak.

[Anonymous No.21039574]

>>21039511
First line: the syndetic linkage is unnecessary; in fact, using "and" there is suspect given there is already a comma. Same problem with the next line, given it says "even" which is already a connective. The commas are just poorly placed with the third line, as they could be parenthetical instead or otherwise use dashes. The last line is merely redundant given what was already said; it is not done masterfully at all. Furthermore, the voice is underdeveloped and too simplistic to convey the lofty themes or subject.

[Anonymous No.21039583]

>>21039495
sounds based

[Anonymous No.21039592]

>>21037657
>no wolfe, vance, peake, or cook
>no chinkshit
>no isekai gamelit harem romance
I don't see the similarity.

[Anonymous No.21039596]

>>21039574
That quote is presented as narration, not exposition, making your points irrelevant. A more naturalistic expression is expected when someone is talking informally. Pedantry for the sake of pedantry just makes you sound like a pseud.

[Anonymous No.21039603]

>Someone mentions X fantasy series
>Blind Guardian starts playing in my head
not sure if want

[Anonymous No.21039607]

>>21039603
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wJtFXTIEwYQ

[Anonymous No.21039608]

>>21039596
>IT'S SUPPOSED TO SOUND DOG SHIT
Okay, go read dog shit vernacular then.

[Anonymous No.21039656]

>>21039607
that's the one mane

[Anonymous No.21039677]

>>21039511
It was written by a hack

[Anonymous No.21039681]

>>21037738
Viel Spaß
>>21037797
Not that I know of.

[Anonymous No.21039723]

read cradle

[Anonymous No.21039736]

>>21039574
>First line: the syndetic linkage is unnecessary; in fact, using "and" there is suspect given there is already a comma.
Dude, that's called a Joining comma. I'm not sure how mandatory it is in whatever dialect of English we're talking about here, but not removing it would result in an unpunctuated wall of text.

>The commas are just poorly placed with the third line, as they could be parenthetical instead or otherwise use dashes.
It bugs me that English texts use commas so much and ignore the existence of dashes or colons. Ukrainian uses dashes more frequently, and that 3rd sentence example would've been dashed.
In a British book with 'single quotes' everything - commas, apostrophes, quotes - blurs into a single punctuation mark.
>>21039723
Your nagging made me check if I had already read it. I have, some 5 years ago, but can't remember a single thing about it.

[Anonymous No.21039758]

What are some adventure-y type books with a focus on the mc and his adventures exploring a cool world?

[Anonymous No.21039765]

>>21039736
It’s just bad punctuation for the form because it doesn’t flow properly, to put it simply. Here is a good example of punctuation used for poetic effect.

[Anonymous No.21039822]

>>21037532
Meant Jade Empire I was high as fuck.
>>21037644
>>21037647
Will check them out, thanks bros.

[Anonymous No.21039826]

>>21039822
>jade empire

[Anonymous No.21039902]

>>21038462
>Perang Opium
HAHAHA

Gonna write shitty Chinese fantasy under the pen name Chang Rice

[Anonymous No.21040032]

[Anonymous No.21040034]

[Anonymous No.21040072]

Opinions on Earthsea?

[Anonymous No.21040108]

>>21040034
Not sure if Bane Omnibus is a cool or whack name for a character

[Anonymous No.21040109]

>>21040072
Written by a w*man who made everyone brown for no reason

[Anonymous No.21040141]

Why is Three Body Problem so well received? Am I just retarded and don’t get it? It’s a solid 6/10 at the moment and I already only have 100 or so pages left

[Anonymous No.21040148]

>>21040141
it's about women fucking things up

[Anonymous No.21040155]

>>21040148
Wait fuck you’re right

[Anonymous No.21040188]

Is H.P. Lovecraft sci-fi or fantasy?

[Anonymous No.21040197]

I was rereading Harry Potter out of a sense of nostalgia and it's funny how little thought Rowling put into her world building. They're fun books, but I really don't see how people made this franchise their whole personality. If anything I would like the Wizard school with different houses to be done by a different author as that's honestly the best part.

[Anonymous No.21040222]

>>21040188
Fantasy, as technological elements are incidental.

[Anonymous No.21040257]

>>21040197
proof once again that world building is gay useless and retarded

[Anonymous No.21040326]

ignoring the cost, are the lord of the rings fancy editions even worth a shit? The last time I bought "fancy" books was in 2011 and those ended up being glue bound trash

[Anonymous No.21040420]

>>21040188
>>21040222
Myth is not fantasy

[Anonymous No.21040643]

>>21040197
Reminder she named the Japanese wizard school "Magic School" in Japanese.

[Anonymous No.21040686]

>>21040326
You'll have to look up individual books to see if they have sewn bindings. Easton press and Folio have sewn bindings most of the time, but they're overpriced

[Anonymous No.21040724]

>>21040257
world building is what holds a story together under scrutiny. Harry Potter's world falls apart pretty fast if you question it.

[Anonymous No.21040761]

>>21040420
What, pray tell, makes Lovecraft mythic?

[Anonymous No.21040835]

>>21040724
>scrutinizing a children's book for plot holes

[Anonymous No.21040921]

>>21035289
I think I hate Dune. The worldbuilding is so contrived just so Frank Herbert can jack off with a bunch of autistic inhuman characters about how humans need to be oppressed so they can't be oppressed anymore.
>Muh no guns or computers
>Muh forced feudal structure
>Muh everyone's a genius and is doing 5D chess every moment of everyday
>Muh Golden Path instead of just giving people their fucking AI and robots back
>Muh complete misreading of human psychology wrt stagnation vs exploration and making a whole book of sucking off Leto 2.
>Muh "beware of charismatic leaders" that gets completely contradicted in GEOD
Why does this series get jacked off so much?

[Anonymous No.21040941]

>>21039723
yerin is my waifu

[Anonymous No.21040949]

>>21037652
No. Life is suffering. One day though.

[Anonymous No.21040952]

>>21040941
Gross. Mercy is way better.

[Anonymous No.21040980]

>>21040952
mercy is mentally challenged. charity is the patrician's choice

[Anonymous No.21040990]

>>21040980
>t. malice

[Anonymous No.21040992]

>>21040980
Thrown in Malice as well. I'll take the trio.

[Anonymous No.21041063]

>>21040197
Earthsea does it for like 5 minutes then gets bored and moves on because le Guin isn't mentally stuck in highschool trauma system like the average Harry Potter fan.

>>21040835
Why shouldn't children's books be logically consistent Anon? What kind of retard mutant scooter people are you trying to raise?

[Anonymous No.21041068]

I've posted on various boards this idea:
>How would you fix Tolkiens Orcs?
>Tolkien Himself had problems with how he depicted orcs so one-dimensionally.

My thoughts:

>Orcs/Goblins are Much less "ravenous, pointlessly cruel savages incapable of organizing outside of direct intimidation or fear" and much more "Vogons" combined with "Ferengi"; that is capable of actually building institutions.
>Orcs/Goblin society is a weird combination of stalinist-style-totalitarian-bureaucracy and 19th-century-cutthroat-capitalism.
>Orc cities don't have people literally stabbing each other in the back all day;
>Orc clothes, at least of those of some status, aren't torn dirty rags especially; they're cheaply made formal/business attire, tunics and the like; often from unconventional fabrics if they're not "connected" or of a slightly lower office..
>they don't eat sentients or use sentient leather, at least not intentionally. (again ruthless capitalists might just fucking lie about the origins of what they're selling).
>Loyalty to Melkor, Sauron, the Witch King, etc... is enforced with the help of a secret police/inquisition.
>whole thing is reminicent of a MLM/Cult-deal; as far as how it's ideologically sold.
>Literacy is more common, though definitions of what qualifies as "Literacy" vary.
>Orc Armies are more or less "Privateers" or "East India Company"-type organizations, often underequipped and betting on the promise of seizing land/slaves/loot in order to turn profits.

[Anonymous No.21041093]

>>21041068
My thoughts:

>Orcs have big green cocks

[Anonymous No.21041112]

>>21040921
Dune is just too fucking long.

[Anonymous No.21041125]

Can anyone explain why people think this book is at all complicated? I came expecting something similar to Hyperion Lost or Gene Wolf books, but Dune basically spells out all important details. I have yet to see Herbert introduce a concept, and not explain it in detail within at least 10 pages. Additionally, there’s only 2 main factions and like 4 sub factions that matter at all. (Paul’s house, Enemy house, Fremen, political witches, Imperium, and spacer guild)

How could anyone think this is complicated? Am I reading the same Version as everyone else ? Game of thrones was harder to track than this.

[Anonymous No.21041132]

>>21041125
because it involves a lot of exposition, a lot of mystic bullshit, and it's very long and very boring.

[Anonymous No.21041190]

>>21040990
>>21040992
malice is a whore with over a hundred children

[Anonymous No.21041214]

>>21041132
While there is plenty of mystic crap here, it’s mostly used for political purposes. This is made clear in the first chapter, when Paul correctly deduces that the bene gesserit is a political institution, and later confirmed when Jessica thinks that Missionaries are sent to new colonies in order to foster future political power. In that same scene Jessica also admits that she is just saying what she suspects the Shadout Mope wants to hear.

In fact Paul being the chosen one was a myth they created in order for them to eventually gain galactic control. Sure they can see into the future, but the whole “religion” thing is similar to the Catholic Church selling indulgences.

[Anonymous No.21041248]

>>21040188
It's weird fiction. He comes from a time when the faggots didn't separate everything into boxes; there was no 'fantasy' genre and 'sci-fi' genre. It was all mixed together and considered 'weird fiction.'

[Anonymous No.21041303]

>>21040835
I'm not saying you need to pick apart the books, but the fact she's tried to expand upon HP's world which as I stated was not really created in a way that would lead to a believable world is the problem. Every bit of WB added to HP universe reeks of being thought of way after the fact, because the actual books operated on a just go along with it and don't think about it method.

[Anonymous No.21041342]

Recommend me novels with no dark-skinned characters in them.

[Anonymous No.21041359]

>>21041125
I don't know, maybe some people find the intro a slog? I read it in middle school, at the time I'd tell people it was my favorite book because I hadn't read that many. Years later I was dating a girl who loved the Lynch movie and the syfy miniseries, so I sent her a copy of the book. She said she couldn't get into it, that it was difficult and boring.

It fucking baffled me because she wasn't a dumb girl by any stretch, she was like a quadruple major in college and was recruited to be an analyst for the government.

[Anonymous No.21041453]

I know this is a unlikely and might get me shit on, but is there any books with lesbian shit in it that is basically treated as coomer bait instead of forced diversity, but is still written somewhat seriously and well

[Anonymous No.21041476]

>>21035289
Besides LotR, The Hobbit, and the Silmarillion are there any other Tolkien works worth reading?

[Anonymous No.21041484]

>>21041476
Children of Hurin is a good tragedy. Essentially a deep dive into Middle Earth at the time of Morgoth's apparent victory.

[Anonymous No.21041589]

>>21039156
>>21039440
>Eisenhorn
this is the only trilogy in the universe i've read and it's not much more than pulp military action. i often see it mentioned as one of the best 40k books but it was a big letdown for me, i read it all but not with much interest for the most part, although it had some good elements. it might be good considering the genre it is in

[Anonymous No.21041656]

[Anonymous No.21041731]

>>21035289
Fred Saberhagen is underrated af. That is all.

https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/16476.The_First_Swords

[Anonymous No.21041760]

>>21039156
The Dan Abnett ones (Gaunt's Ghosts, Eisenhorn, The Horus Heresy etc.) are generally better than the other 40k writers, whilst still being shlocky fun pulp sci-fi.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dan_Abnett_bibliography#Warhammer_40,000

[Anonymous No.21041972]

>>21035515

Nobody creates in a vacuum, you are inspired by everything you have ever seen or experienced. Copyright covers your actual work, not a style. And not every aspect of your work is protected. Copyright can cover a character but it does not cover scènes à faire or the general things a character does. Even entire plot lines or compositions of photos are typically unprotected aspects of a work. If you shoot an iconic photo of a house lit by a particularly stunning sunset with a cloud formation and a child playing in the street, that work is protected, but it does not prohibit someone else from taking another photo with those same elements and also selling it.

This is differs from fair use, which allows you to use of otherwise protected works without the permission of the wrights holder.

The courts have already ruled that bot scraping of artwork for ai use is fair use. Laws can change, and courts can reverse themselves but as it stands everything is currently legal. If the law changes it would only affect new works created after the change as retroactive laws are unconstitutional in freedomland at least.

[Anonymous No.21041981]

>>21035289
I am the beast of Mung

[Anonymous No.21041988]

>>21041248
why was it so weird?

[Anonymous No.21042020]

>>21041988
Because it was weird.

[Anonymous No.21042149]

>>21041656
It's just too long,
I dropped it after the point where he body swaps, and the dragonkin and suddenly introduced.
It felt like the world had mostly been explored and explained, and I was just waiting more hundreds of chapters for things to reach their natural conclusion.
Especially when I heard it was unfinished, I couldn't gather the strength to go all the way.

[Anonymous No.21042196]

Anyone got any recommendations for fantasy novels with competent writing? The gulf in competency between authors like Matthew Woodring Stover and Bakker compared to the average fantasy author is so stark it physically hurts me to read most novels in the genre.

[Anonymous No.21042287]

>>21041972
>If the law changes it would only affect new works created after the change
That is not a correct interpretation of the principle of ex post facto law. If a new legal interpretation determined that the machine-generated works are owned by the original creators after all, you would have to stop using them. The only thing that is unconstitutional in this scenario would be punishing you ex post facto for having used them while it wasn't illegal.

[Anonymous No.21042342]

Why are all the gamelit recommendations in the mega erotic porn novels.

[Anonymous No.21042347]

>>21042342
Because they're made by a single anon and that's what that anon likes.

[Anonymous No.21042355]

>>21042342
"all"?

[Anonymous No.21042374]

Is there anything I should move onto after BotNS and Second Apocalypse that reach the same highs of those series? I was going to start reading Elric, but if there's something that comes close to those books, I want to start with that. Specifically I mean the highs of their worldbuilding, prose, and spiritual systems.

[Anonymous No.21042377]

>>21042355
I choose two at random, and both had the words harem in their description. And the majority of them have pictures of women on the cover with their breast's prominently displayed, 14/18 which is over three quarters

[Anonymous No.21042385]

>>21042377
>>21042355
And even the one with the pictures of spaceships on the front, is about running around the galaxy bagging aliens.

[Anonymous No.21042448]

>>21042342
>>21042385
>>21042377
>>21042355
>>21042342
So because you sampled X from a group, it means everything is X in that group?

[Anonymous No.21042456]

>>21042448
Welcome to statistics
And that image you attached isn't in the MEGA.
However this one is

[Anonymous No.21042479]

>>21042456
That is a smut chart, anon.
Everything on that chart is smut.

[Anonymous No.21042489]

>>21042479
That's why I was so surprised, this was listed as gamelit's favorites, and there were no other gamelit images in the mega to compare to.
and then you came in, acting all shocked.

[Anonymous No.21042491]

>>21042456
Don't listen to the >>21042448 >>21042479 he's a retard that's been trying to shill his self-made chart for a while now. Truth be told, it's just best if you ignore him. The mega chart, which you read, is the right one.

[Anonymous No.21042507]

>>21042456
how many of these are for cucks?

[Anonymous No.21042539]

>>21042489
A coomer made that a few years ago. He wanted coomer gamelit.

[Anonymous No.21042547]

who would win, bros?

[Anonymous No.21042562]

>>21042448
Why is mother of learning on there?
It doesn't have a statblock or other gamelit features, it just well written modern fantasy

[Anonymous No.21042571]

>>21040761
Nothing. He’s just using the misnomer of Mythos as his starting point without reading or understanding Lovecraft.
>>21040188
Sci-fi. All the Elder Things and Old Gods are aliens. Their “technology” is far beyond our comprehension. Lovecraft was also very rationalist and atheist so it makes sense he would naturalise his horrors as extraterrestrial life.

[Anonymous No.21042573]

>>21042562
It's progression. And it's kinda gamelit in the end.

[Anonymous No.21042583]

>>21041589
I read Eisenhorn and Ravenor 10 years ago and there were my first of the kind (mil. fantasy / space). I agree that it's not mind-blowing literature, but Dan Abnett is probably the best 40k has to offer. There might be some decent books by other authors, but I have opened some atrocious crap in the Horus Heresy series and don't wanna touch it ever again.
This guy agrees >>21041760

[Anonymous No.21042590]

>>21042573
Alot of fantasy is progression because that's basic hero's journey shit. The fact that the whole 0% of the book was actually in a simulation and wasn't timetravel doesn't affect the fact that it doesn't have the core feature that separates fantasy from gamelit/litrpg literate, numbers going up, and statblocks.

[Anonymous No.21042601]

>>21042590
* 90% not 0%

[Anonymous No.21042649]

>>21042448
>Jakes Magic Market
>The last Physicist
>Armor
>Vigil's Justic
>Randidly Ghosthound
>Primal Hunter
All trash
Get better taste
The other's vary from merely mediocre to good to I haven't read them yet.

[Anonymous No.21042664]

>>21042448
I also wouldn't put Worth the Candle on the list, because it get's too meta, such that any genre fan is going to be put off by it being so deconstructionist.

[Anonymous No.21042669]

>>21042649
Reminder to read Armor.

[Anonymous No.21042671]

>>21042669
It's bad
Dropped it 40 pages in.

[Anonymous No.21042960]

>>21042374
As someone whos read botns and second apocalypse and started elric recently, I wouldn't recommend it at all.
Everything about it is incredibly juvenile, I'm shocked people actually recommend this trash.

[Anonymous No.21042969]

>>21042669
Same energy

[Anonymous No.21042980]

>>21042969
me on the left

[Anonymous No.21043000]

>>21042969
Annihilation was so good. That whole batch of cosmic Marvel up until around that weird death Thanos arc deal was prime.

[Anonymous No.21043009]

>>21041453
The fanfics about Captain Amelia getting along Jane from Tarzan

[Anonymous No.21043020]

>>21043000
Yup
Annihilation + war of kings + thanos imperitive were fucking golden

[Anonymous No.21043050]

>>21043020
GotG was good too. The movie was a bastardization. NOVA was fucking dope.

[Anonymous No.21043059]

>>21041972
>Nobody creates in a vacuum, you are inspired
You're anthropomorphizing a toaster. Art AIs glue together pieces of existing pictures from their training sets, and if you know the training set, you can easily show which images were used to make the output.
>The courts have already ruled that bot scraping of artwork for ai use is fair use.
So is recording TV shows for private consumption. Make a book cover out of 3 frames you recorded from a TV show and see what happens.

[Anonymous No.21043118]

>>21042590
Progression fantasy is a weird sub-genre where there's effectively at least a focus on the protagonist getting more skilled, typically with the local magic system. I'm actually giving Armor a read and I'm not even sure why it's called progression fantasy, there's barely any real clear focus on that sort of stuff, it's more just "getting used to his own limitations as a living suit of armor".

[Anonymous No.21043123]

>>21043050
Nova is so based
I know this is widly off topic now but I haven't read comics since this arc aside from one Thor series. I hope nova and warlock get done well in gotg3.

[Anonymous No.21043132]

>>21041731
Saberhagen writes great action sequences too. The fight between Mark and Lord Doon in book two was kino.
Draffut Best dog.

[Anonymous No.21043137]

>>21042669
I am.
It's fine. The biggest highlight quite a ways in is still the moment where the protagonist uses the voices of the four people he ate before becoming self-aware to simulate a conversation about how cool all 'four' of them are to scare off two thugs waiting to ambush him. Other than that it's just kind of weird conspiracy plot stuff with some passable characters.

[Anonymous No.21043230]

>>21042448
Just Started reading The Idle system series.
Also not very good.
Look I understand Litrpg stories are going to be somewhat similar, but that doesn't mean it has to be downright generic.
The MC is so worthless no dimensional the author didn't bother writing a description until like 30 pages in.
For all future Litrpg writiers. THE STRENGTH OF YOUR STORY DEPENDS ON YOUR CHARACTERS AND YOUR WORLDBULIDING.
The story beats are always the same, so if the journey is the same, you better make sure it's somewhat interesting on the way there.

[Anonymous No.21043267]

>>21035289
How much of an effect did the Ent-Draught have on Pippin and Merry’s character arcs? Was the ent-draught the reason Pippin had the mental strength to pull away from Sauron while looking in the Palantir?

[Anonymous No.21043286]

>>21043230
This is really why Dungeon Crawler Carl is the easy peak of the genre, because Carl is such a well-realised character.

[Anonymous No.21043341]

>>21043286
DCC is really unfunny and the author thinks he has to have a joke every paragraph

[Anonymous No.21043348]

>>21043230
I dropped that one. You should do the same.

[Anonymous No.21043350]

>>21043341
That... Really isn't the case? At least not after, like, the first book. After a while the only jokes are from Donut who is moreso funny just because she doesn't really grasp the severity of everything, and the AI itself which everybody in-universe agrees is kinda fucked-up.

[Anonymous No.21043354]

Test

[Anonymous No.21043374]

>>21042547
The one that deletes Shallan.

[Anonymous No.21043531]

>>21041125
I tried to read it once in high school. I think I made it eight pages before I got sick of having to flip to the glossary twice a sentence.

[Anonymous No.21043705]

>>21041760
>>21042583
Thanks. One author I really admire (despite being, by definition, a mediocre childrens writer) is Eric Nylund. The Halo books he wrote have a really good sense of adventure, a coherent plot, actions scenes that don't feel like filler, and a consistent ethic that makes Master Chief a competent and admirable protagonist. Looking at his website he says he is directly inspired by Heinlein. I would like to see a lot more stories like that and from a distance 40k Space Marines seems to be exactly it.

[Anonymous No.21043824]

>>21040949
not going to happen. Trump and his mom dying destroyed his brain. there is only madness now for him. he thought he was kellhus when he was really achamian.

[Anonymous No.21043831]

>>21043000
>>>/co/
Fuck off, manbaby. This is the extreme board.

[Anonymous No.21043832]

>>21041484
I seond Children Of Hurin. It is short and a great read.

[Anonymous No.21043837]

>>21042374
Malazan

[Anonymous No.21043915]

>>21043837
oh come on, man

[Anonymous No.21043964]

>>21043009
LOL well thank you for the reply

[Anonymous No.21043967]

I'm reading heroes of Atlantis and Lemuria by manly wade Wellman, and I think the protagonist just had sex with a child

[Anonymous No.21043984]

>>21037195
Always read some sci-fi or fantasy before bed too, very comfy.

[Anonymous No.21043997]

>>21038462
>>21038625
I actually think the Opium Wars is a neat idea for something to emulate in a fantasy series. Only learned about it in college but it’s a strange and kind of sad bit of history.

[Anonymous No.21044045]

>>21042547
Branderson Sanderson looks like a king, Brandon Sandon looks like a cuck. Striking. Canthal tilt really does matter.

[Anonymous No.21044067]

>>21043967
Post the excerpt so we can confirm

[Anonymous No.21044120]

>>21044067
It's the short story "the dweller in the temple". It isn't particularly explicit, he's given a harem of beautiful women to choose from but he picks a little maid girl and literally calls her "my child" before fucking her.

[Anonymous No.21044265]

>>21042669
>mfw ending to Armor

[Anonymous No.21044662]

>>21035289
Should I read Hobbit before Fellowship or shouldn't it matter? I read them as a kid, at least partially, so I kind of know the background. Of course, I have been affected by the films too.

[Anonymous No.21044674]

>>21044045
I thought a positive canthal tilt was better, or is that only if it's slight?

[Anonymous No.21044697]

>>21042669
Armor is unironically one of the most inspiring books I have ever read and I never read fiction
The way he becomes surrounded by death from all sides and his motivation to live slowly slips away from his fingertips until something primal inside snaps and he lives to see another day, it's almost like a mirror into a more primitive age despite being set far into the future
My mind always comes back to this book whenever all seems lost and it always works
I never had any idea military sci fi had an actual educational purpose when it comes to psychological conditioning

Also the ending, gigabased beyond belief

>>21042671
A lot of the book is filler, when you get to the end it's definitely worth it

[Anonymous No.21044700]

>>21041190
do you think she ever fucked northstrider

[Anonymous No.21044704]

>>21044700
No. Malice is too much of an insecure domineering bitch, she'd never let anyone close if they could potentially be a threat to her. She doms young golds.

[Anonymous No.21044735]

>>21040141
The dark forest is honestly my favourite piece of sci-fi I have ever read. Three body is admittedly bloated and probably the weakest link in the series, and I get not liking it. Just know it gets a lot better, at least in terms of plot in the sequels.

[Anonymous No.21044777]

>>21044700
definitely. its all about the bloodline.
at this point, the question is who didn't she fuck?

[Anonymous No.21044799]

How do I make a sci-fi space federation dark in a plausible way?

[Anonymous No.21044809]

>>21044799
You make it a realistic alliance of convenience and calculated mutual benefit

[Anonymous No.21044812]

>>21039156
If its the Horus Heresy, then you just need the first three books to establish a baseline. After that its just which parts of the civil war you want to read about. Its not one continuous storyline really, just several books describing what X or Y legion did during the war.

Most of them are shit, but the likes of Fulgrim, A Thousand Sons, and Know No Fear are worth reading imo.

[Anonymous No.21044822]

>>21041068
Orcs aren't interesting when they stop being one-dimensional inherently evil dudes.

[Anonymous No.21044979]

>>21041068
Doesn't really address the issue with Tolkien's bad orcs (which is more a metaphysical issue of Tolkien's world and Melkor's inability to create), but I like the lore behind TES orcs.

[Anonymous No.21045146]

>>21044812
also the fact that first, what, five books essentially re-tread the same ground from different perspectives

[Anonymous No.21045171]

Not exactly thread related but I have no idea where to ask: I moved into a small studio apartment and I'm having issues with humidity, more specifically I noticed that my books have been warped. My assumption is that when I shower in the bathroom, it steams up the whole apartment and since my books are just sitting on a drawer, the steam is affecting them.
Now, how much does this actually fuck up my books? Yeah, the warped pages do look kinda ugly, but I mean more about the binding and the like. Will my books get mega unusabley fucked up?

[Anonymous No.21045184]

>>21045171
you fucking moronnnnnnnnnnnnnn you'll get mold in your apartment dumbass
OPEN YOUR FUCKING WINDOWS

[Anonymous No.21045193]

>>21045184
Alright, alright. I'm a country boy who moved into the big city. I've never lived in an apartment, I have no clue about the fucking protocol. Lesson learned

[Anonymous No.21045203]

>>21045193
I'm assuming your bathroom has no window, it's important to not make your apartment too humid, close the door while showering and air it out when you are done (especially in the winter), just google the proper protocol
Please, mold can really fuck you up, getting rid of it is such a hassle and it's bad for your health. May ruin you financially if things go real bad

[Anonymous No.21045207]

>>21045193
If you live in a civilized country, some form of ventilation is required in your bathroom.

[Anonymous No.21045229]

>>21045171
Blow steam?

[Anonymous No.21045249]

>>21045203
Yeah, I'll certainly pay more attention to this in the future. Just hope I didn't fuck up my books too bad.
>>21045207
>If you live in a civilized country
Unfortunately, I live in a soulful one

[Anonymous No.21045252]

"Bran Mak Morn (is the) last king of the oldest race - an alien among his own degenerating people, set apart by a pure bloodline they no longer share, who knows his entire race is going down into the dark no matter what he does. Yet for all his awareness of the inevitability of the Picts' doom, Bran refuses simply to submit to it..."

Did Robert E. Howard predict Evolan LARP-ers? How are we sleeping on this?

[Anonymous No.21045335]

Did read The Left Hand of Darkness, now reading The Dispossessed. It occurred to me that all the talk about Ursula K. Le Guin being a huge "feminist" author is, if not bullshit, then a massive exaggeration. There really isn't anything feminist here, at least in modern standards and so far she has mostly written (quite well in fact) complete male characters and even in tLHoD most neuters of Gethen are by their acts and attitudes quite male as well. If there is massive sexism in her books its still against women rather than. All in all it is quite enjoyable to read her books that really don't stand out politically from the rest. Good author, despite her gender.

[Anonymous No.21045342]

>>21045335
Being a female writer whose works don't suck ass is enough to become a feminist icon.

[Anonymous No.21045353]

>>21038371
I cannot relate to realism

[Anonymous No.21045355]

>>21041589
>it's not much more than pulp miitary action

Where's the issue though?

[Anonymous No.21045382]

>writes the best military science fiction novel ever
>writes the best action/adventure horror novel ever
>never writes anything again
>dies

[Anonymous No.21045394]

>>21040034
>>21040108
Bane?

[Anonymous No.21045411]

>>21042669
Looks like the artist traced art of a knight using a broadsword and didn't quite think how the scifi rifle figured into the picture

[Anonymous No.21045420]

want to read more Heinlein after Starship Troopers but want to know which of his lesser known works are well regarded here.
>Time enough for Love
>Starman Jones
>The Number of the Beast
>I Will Fear No Evil
>Future History series
>Between Planets

[Anonymous No.21045424]

>>21045411
Holy shit, you're right! I've seen this drawing several times and I've never noticed that.

[Anonymous No.21045487]

>>21045382
whomst?

[Anonymous No.21045496]

>barely read the past year
>think i've gotten bored of books
>by chance find a really good book
>read 500 pages of it in a day
Man i feel like my tastes in fantasy and science fiction have gotten really hard to satisfy recently

[Anonymous No.21045501]

>>21045496
There's just not much coming out that's worth reading.

[Anonymous No.21045508]

>>21044777
She probably didn't fuck Eithan.

[Anonymous No.21045637]

So there's no historic fiction general and I can't post here about it?

[Anonymous No.21045640]

>>21045496
well you have to name it now

[Anonymous No.21045643]

>>21045193
You will die of black mold in your lungs in this decade. Find a place with fucking windows to live in.

[Anonymous No.21045650]

>>21045637
Lurk 2 years before posting

[Anonymous No.21045669]

>>21036788
>MC finds a girl and they have a healthy drama-free relationship throughout the whole book/series

[Anonymous No.21045690]

>>21045640
the throne of glass by sarah j maas

[Anonymous No.21045695]

>>21045690
are you joking?

[Anonymous No.21045837]

[Anonymous No.21045863]

>>21045695
yes

[Anonymous No.21045877]

>>21035289
The potato plothole is much worse than the Great Eagles one…

[Anonymous No.21045898]

>>21035515
Can it be detected though?

[Anonymous No.21045900]

>>21038622
Wtf do you read?

[Anonymous No.21045934]

>>21045877
They're not potatoes, they're what he translated as 'potatoes'.

[Anonymous No.21045991]

What are some good Gurrm novels besides ASOIAF? I found a shop that sells them in English (which is pretty rare in my country), here are the books they have:
Windhaven
Dying of the light
The armageddon rag
Tuf voyaging
Fevre dream
Please tell me of any of these are worth reading

[Anonymous No.21046060]

Thanks again to anon who provided us with the (rare) full text of R.A. Lafferty's "In A Green Tree" chapters yesterday. For any Lafferty fans who missed it and want it, we can post the link.

[Anonymous No.21046063]

>>21045934
They were probably stinking turnips, which would leave us with far more sympathy for Gollum's position on them.

[Anonymous No.21046066]

>>21045991
I've read Tuf Voyaging and Fevre Dream and recommend both.

[Anonymous No.21046100]

>>21045690
Sarah maas is thick as fuck
That is all.

[Anonymous No.21046117]

>>21045877
it's literally a fantasy world. There's no america there

[Anonymous No.21046290]

>>21046100
And prove you can write literary porn and be famous. As long as it's written for female audiences, male audience is vilified for liking literary porn like Good Intentions.

[Anonymous No.21046328]

>>21046290
Isn't that cuckshit?

[Anonymous No.21046352]

>>21046328
Most "literature" is cuckshit. I avoid it.

[Anonymous No.21046360]

>>21046352
That one is pretty egregious from what I heard.
Not sure what you mean by literary porn anyhow

[Anonymous No.21046421]

>>21044799
Combine the Democrats and the EU and put them in space.

[Anonymous No.21046434]

>>21044799
Make them americans

[Anonymous No.21046640]

>>21046434
Nice try, stinky chinky.

[Anonymous No.21046669]

How big of a deal would it be if I skipped Warbreaker and moved from The Way of Kings to Words of Radiance? The flowchart says reading it is highly recommended.

[Anonymous No.21046866]

>>21045669
Books like this? I've been slurping the bottom of the barrel looking for more

[Anonymous No.21046870]

Do I have to read Hegel if I've read Bakker? Or is Bakker enough?

Or do I have to read Hegel to understand Kellhus?

[Anonymous No.21046991]

>>21046669
I read warbreakers after
It's really not a big deal

[Anonymous No.21047217]

>>21046991
Nice. I can't find Warbreaker anywhere for a reasonable price in my native language. I'll skip it for now and keep an eye out for reprints.

[Anonymous No.21047241]

>>21047217
You know it's literally free on his website, right?

[Anonymous No.21047280]

>>21047241
Yes, but not in my language. I checked libgen.
Unless you're talking about some other place I don't know of?

[Anonymous No.21047289]

Does anyone else get a strange, masochistic thrill when anons on this site shit on you for being a pleb? It makes me feel special. I screenshot the best responses.

[Anonymous No.21047315]

>>21047280
Oh, right, sort of skimmed over that. Yeah, it's only available on Sanderson's website in English I guess.

[Anonymous No.21047350]

Is this a good space opera?

[Anonymous No.21047370]

>>21047350
Lafiel was my first crush. Never read the books

[Anonymous No.21047374]

>>21035289
Just finished Return of the King and now I am very sad.
Books to mend this feel?

[Anonymous No.21047432]

>>21047374
The Silmarillion

[Anonymous No.21047668]

>>21047350
>>>/a/

[Anonymous No.21047744]

>>21045898
I'm a lot of cases yes, unless you run it through a heavy filter. The only limiting factors are it's not very common yet and there's nothing tying rights holders to companies with lawyers and an image recognition corpus. It's like the stock photo business ca 1998. Used to be you could use any picture on a web site and nobody said anything unless they were also part of your tiny community. Smash cut to 2008, 60% of stock photos are owned by Microsoft and they send you a bill in a few weeks if you use one of them on your blog.

[Anonymous No.21047757]

>>21047350
>>21047370
>evil space elves who are only protagonists because everyone is equally villainous and the human simp who loves them

[Anonymous No.21047786]

>>21047757
>only protagonists because everyone is equally villainous
sounds based ngl

[Anonymous No.21047896]

>>21046117
Middle-Earth is set on our planet. How new are you to Tolkien?

[Anonymous No.21047902]

>>21047370
I'm almost done watching Crest of the Stars, I didn't like it at first but it's starting to get good now that the war's on. So I'm thinking maybe I should read Banner instead of watching it.

[Anonymous No.21047906]

>>21046669
There are characters, weapons, and other references from all other cosmere works in Stormlight Archive. It's just a matter of when, or how easily, you want to recognize them for what they are.

[Anonymous No.21047916]

>>21047902
NTA
You'd think the light novels may be better, but you'll likely be in for a surprise.

[Anonymous No.21047919]

>/sffg/ still doesn't realise Middle-Earth happened eons ago when our planet was flat

[Anonymous No.21047946]

>>21047919
based

[Anonymous No.21048101]

>>21045877
>The potato plothole is much worse than the Great Eagles one…
There is no great eagles plothole.
The more powerful someone is the more quickly and radically corrupted they become by the ring.
The Eagles were among the oldest and most powerful beings in middle earth, they would have become corrupted by the ring. Boromir was merely a man and he was corrupted just by being in the near it

[Anonymous No.21048129]

>>21047374
>>21047432
Also you should read The Children of Húrin aswell,
and if you end up wanting for other novels not written by Tolkien but with a similar feel, check out:
The Worm Ouroboros by E. R. Eddison
The King of Elfland's Daughter by Lord Dunsany
The Broken Sword by Poul Anderson.

[Anonymous No.21048144]

>>21048129
comfy thanks anon

[Anonymous No.21048147]

>>21047374
Call me whatever you want but the final few pages really do nearly bring me to tears, and the only other book that has impacted me that much was the end of The Red and the Black.
There's something about Frodo parting ways from Sam and Merry and Pippin for good (except for when Sam sails west in old age) that really felt like a kick in the gut. Perhaps it's because so many of us can relate to that on some level. Saying goodbye to your friends from college, saying goodbye to a loved one. Parting with people that you have been through formative life experiences with is soul-rending.

[Anonymous No.21048497]

>>21045991
Dying of the light

[Anonymous No.21048509]

>>21045991
You should read his superhero series, Wildcards. It’s great series.

[Anonymous No.21048523]

>>21048509
>You should read his superhero series, Wildcards
He doesn't write that; he just edits it.

[Anonymous No.21048583]

Anyone read this?
It's not technically fantasy, but uses magic n knights n sheit. I'm actually surprised by how well written the heroines are considering it's from 1581.

[Anonymous No.21048635]

>>21048583
>Anyone read this?
no

[Anonymous No.21048647]

>>21048147
Interesting. I find the ending sad mostly because it really nails just how much Frodo has been damaged and isolated by his experience as the ringbearer

[Anonymous No.21048649]

>>21048647
>I find the ending sad mostly because it really nails just how much Frodo has been damaged and isolated by his experience as the ringbearer
I meam, Tolkien wrote Lord of the Rings as a way to cope with his ptsd from serving world war 1.

[Anonymous No.21048689]

>>21048649
Yes, anon. We all know. We’ve read the scouring of the shire.

[Anonymous No.21048694]

>>21048129
I'll read one of these on my flight tonight

[Anonymous No.21048711]

>>21048694
Hope you pick one you like

[Anonymous No.21048726]

>>21048689
You would be surprised how many fans deny it though.

[Anonymous No.21048728]

>>21038294
And everything is as it should be.

[Anonymous No.21048768]

>>21048726
Only Tolkien denies it.

[Anonymous No.21048788]

>>21048768
And fans repeat what he says.

[Anonymous No.21048867]

>>21048509
>Wildcards
Fuck, I got the first three books, I should really get around to reading them.

[Anonymous No.21048872]

>>21048867
You really should, I read the prologue with Jetboy and fell in love with it. Really encapsulates the tone of the series.

[Anonymous No.21048908]

>>21048872
>Really encapsulates the tone of the series
I know its supposed to be superheroes, but with realism, and I'm just having mixed feelings about it.

[Anonymous No.21048911]

>>21045252
>Bran Mak Morn
I liked it, but Howard sadly didn't write enough stories about the guy. Worms of the Earth veers into horror at times.

[Anonymous No.21048916]

>>21048911
>Worms of the Earth veers into horror at times
Is it tastefully done?

[Anonymous No.21048934]

>>21048908
It’s just a comic series written as a book. Nothing to worry about.

[Anonymous No.21048947]

>>21048934
You're probably right, and I'm just overthinking it.

[Anonymous No.21048951]

>>21048947
Man, just read the book if you’re interested in it b

[Anonymous No.21048958]

>>21048951
Normally, I would, but it's such a time commitment since I only read when I'm about to go to bed.

[Anonymous No.21048960]

>>21048958
Ah, that’s a bit more understandable, the first book is like 430 pages long. Still read it when you have the chance.

[Anonymous No.21048966]

>>21048960
>Still read it when you have the chance.
Once I finished two other books, I will. Though, I'm still somewhat reluctant to.

[Anonymous No.21048969]

>>21048934
The realism seems hamfisted to me, but that’s my opinion on it b

[Anonymous No.21048978]

>>21047896
what part of europe is this shit in then

[Anonymous No.21048980]

>>21048978
yeah tolkien was retarded

[Anonymous No.21049140]

>>21048978
Sorry you don't know how tectonic plates work you fucking numpty. Middle-Earth was many eons before the world was round and before Numenor sank; it obviously had elements of Europe there, though.

[Anonymous No.21049160]

>>21049140
This map is missing Lemuria.

[Anonymous No.21049219]

>>21046066
>>21048497
>>21048509
Thanks everyone, I ended up buying Fevre Dream and also Fire & Blood. They were pretty expensive, but maybe I'll also pick up Tuf Voyaging and Dying of the Light after I've finished these two. Unfortunately, they didn't have Wild Cards, though I'm not into that kind of stuff anyway.

[Anonymous No.21049221]

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