What does /lit think of BAP’s ‘conversion package’?

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Anonymous Mon Sep 26 09:20:46 2022 No.21044689 [Reply] [Original]

What does /lit think of BAP’s ‘conversion package’?

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 09:28:18 2022 No.21044714 >>21044689 entry level edgy teen boy-core

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 09:31:04 2022 No.21044717 that nigga loves big packages for sure

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 09:42:25 2022 No.21044742 this seems more like a "any woman who reads will see this on your shelf and instantly become the sahara desert in her pants" package

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 09:43:10 2022 No.21044744 >>21044742 Why would you bring home a woman who reads

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 09:44:19 2022 No.21044747 >>21044744 my game is too weak to find any of the illiterate baddies, i assume they live in the sahara desert i just mentioned.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 09:45:05 2022 No.21044750 >>21044747 That's what alcohol is for, buddy

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 09:48:27 2022 No.21044757 >>21044689 >4 memes and two literal who‘s Sounds like a good starter pack to become a Twitter pseud

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 10:09:17 2022 No.21044795 >>21044757 >two literal who‘s You think Conrad is a ‘literal who’? The absolute state of this godforsaken board.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 10:14:38 2022 No.21044804 >>21044689 Unsurprising boring /lit/core

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 10:25:07 2022 No.21044823 >>21044689 I read most of these books in my teens/20s and here I am posting on 4chan so I guess it did work huh

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 10:28:19 2022 No.21044835 >>21044795 This. Also discarding authors because they are regularly memed on this website has to be the most stupid fucking attitude one can have towards anything

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 10:29:56 2022 No.21044839 >has the biggest soiboy of all time (putin) on his avatar opinion discarded

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 10:33:45 2022 No.21044847 entry-level, not bad. No Carlyle or Hoppe though?

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 10:35:28 2022 No.21044854 >>21044742 A woman who reads will be happy to see a man reading something else than mangas and comic books in the first place.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 10:37:17 2022 No.21044859 >>21044689 Some pseudo-intellectual “academic” has mediocre taste. Unsurprising.

Anonymous Mon Sep 26 10:37:38 2022 No.21044861

>>21044689
From these books I have only read Junger and frankly I have no interest in reading the others. But Storm of Steel is a genuinely fascinating book, so long as you get the full version and not the gimped one.
>>21044742
Not funny or insightful. Lame post.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 10:42:48 2022 No.21044876 >>21044835 It's zoomer shit, but so is falling for memes

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 10:44:51 2022 No.21044889 >>21044689 The Mishima, Conrad, and Junger books are all great, don't listen to the troons. Haven't read the rest. What is Celine like?

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 10:52:25 2022 No.21044911 What thr fuck is he converting them to? It's some good literature, that's about it. The idea that this represents "politics" is laughable. Bap runs a depoliticized self improvement club, that's about it.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 11:13:56 2022 No.21044978 >>21044689 BAP's a Straussian (liar). The books he's openly recommending are obviously the least interesting you can read

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 11:24:18 2022 No.21045011 >>21044978 Which ones are more interesting?

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 11:34:38 2022 No.21045046 >>21045011 Read Persecution & the Art of Writing. Then reread BAM, and you'll know

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 11:37:53 2022 No.21045053 >>21044742 A woman wouldnt even know what they are looking at or care. Their libido isnt that insightful. Its after they fuck you they start going crazy about the shit you do in your freetime.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 11:39:14 2022 No.21045058 >>21044876 >its zoomer shit >every single book on the list was written over 50 years ago

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 11:43:22 2022 No.21045072 >>21044847 I woukd have thought the conversion package would be plutarchs lives

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 11:47:22 2022 No.21045088 >>21044714 fpbp

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 11:48:24 2022 No.21045091 >>21044978 This. It's amazing watching all these teen boys fall into the trap.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 11:51:58 2022 No.21045098 >>21044859 I thought he is anti-academia

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 12:00:04 2022 No.21045132 >>21045058 Nietzsche is zoomer shit

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 12:05:17 2022 No.21045154 >>21045058 nice reading comprehension retard

Anonymous Mon Sep 26 12:24:28 2022 No.21045206

This is fairly weak stuff. Not because the books are bad, nostromo is excellent, and so is Junger, but because he clearly thinks this is 'inspirational', Hemingway type stuff. A kind of lifestyle marketing, which only Nietzsche really is, and that man is as liable to turn you against far right causes as towards them.
Far more useful would be to offer them short books that might open the world up as an interesting topic and turn them away from discord trannies and video games.
Civilization and Its Discontents
The Protestant Ethic and the Spirit of Capitalism
The Civilization of the Renaissance in Italy
Broad romantic poetry by the likes of Keats, Shelley, Coleridge or Byron
La Cité antique

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 12:34:23 2022 No.21045231 >>21045206 Actual good taste for once.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 12:49:08 2022 No.21045262 >>21044689 No one on /lit/ has read any of the books he has mentioned.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 12:51:50 2022 No.21045272 File: 1.20 MB, 1170x1555, 9FF343E4-BA2A-45EE-AA06-5BF211104252.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>21045262 That’s not true, I’ve read Zarathustra (as well as other books by Nietzsche)

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 13:20:02 2022 No.21045349 >>21045262 they’re all lit memes, newfriend

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 13:21:59 2022 No.21045352 >>21044714 fpbp

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 13:29:38 2022 No.21045378 Mishima is good but not much else >>21045352 >>21045088 >>21044714 samefag

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 13:34:00 2022 No.21045396 How do I stop getting filtered by Conrad? Maybe it’s because I was reading an ebook but the writing style in Heart of Darkness just didn’t make sense to me, I could hardly understand what was happening.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 14:05:06 2022 No.21045541 File: 36 KB, 659x275, Screenshot_2022-09-26_10-04-44.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>21045378 meds now

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 14:20:22 2022 No.21045608 >>21044889 Pessimistic

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 14:26:29 2022 No.21045627 >>21045072 redpill me on plutarch NOW >>21045206 these books are shit t. scientist

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 14:26:47 2022 No.21045630 >>21044889 Everyone says Celine is pessimistic and hateful, but I just found him to be quite fun.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 14:50:02 2022 No.21045704 >>21044689 No one can convince me that this paederast (I say as an ameliorative)-faggot isn't a glowie psyop.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 14:50:29 2022 No.21045705 >>21045630 A lot of Doomer authors are like that. The funniest novel I ever read was Beckett's trilogy. I guess there is a lot of humour in dispair

Anonymous Mon Sep 26 14:52:07 2022 No.21045709

>>21044689
>actually recommending Nostromo
I'm actually pretty impressed. So few have read it yet to recommend it amongst books like that as a crutch 20something-lostcore is actually good.

Seriously, read it. It's not riveting in an exciting way but it stands next to though a bit below Dosto in its perspicuity towards human nature, yet with less of the hail-Mary reliance on a God to justify the horrors of men.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 15:02:34 2022 No.21045758 >>21045709 I've read a quarter of it and so far it's pure anglo worshipping in stilted prose. The one decent thing was the Gould's story, otherwise dull

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 15:37:56 2022 No.21045888 >>21045709 >20something-lostcore Anyone got a chart for this

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 15:43:00 2022 No.21045899 >>21044747 Just buy a wife lmao

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 15:44:01 2022 No.21045902 >>21044835 t wrote behead all satans

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 15:46:32 2022 No.21045909 >>21045888 yah, but I cant find it

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 16:18:36 2022 No.21045990 >>21045206 >I thought he is anti-academia Literally the only good book on your list is The Ancient City by de Coulanges.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 16:23:28 2022 No.21046009 >>21044839 >p-putin is a soiboy the feds are not sending their best

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 16:26:55 2022 No.21046024 >>21044689 Those are all objectively good books.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 16:46:52 2022 No.21046102 >>21044689 fag should try conversion therapy

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 17:23:08 2022 No.21046220 >>21046102 That doesn’t work Only the bisexual would “convert” We don’t need more children at this point in history

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 17:37:52 2022 No.21046268 >>21045378 Every Western Mishima reader grows out of Mishima and comes to think of him as strange and overrated.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 17:38:53 2022 No.21046275 Junger thought Celine was a nihilist lunatic, and he'd no doubt think the same about Mishima.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 17:41:36 2022 No.21046293 As a program, the only oeuvre worth its salt here is Junger. Read the others as interesting novelists. Read Junger as an interesting novelist who also wrote novels that were more than just novels.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 18:01:42 2022 No.21046379 >>21044689 Jünger is good. It's a memoir ffs. Everything in it is verified. I don't see how it's a matter of opinion.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 18:43:32 2022 No.21046564 >>21044839 What? But I thought soiboys were hot. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RX1d63WQTaw

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 18:45:59 2022 No.21046574 >>21045098 >some fag whose entire grifting personality is being a Yalie is earnestly “anti-academic Lol

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 18:46:35 2022 No.21046578 >>21044689 Junger was the very definition of a cuckservative.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 18:48:40 2022 No.21046584 >>21046578 Not during the interwar period. At that time he was a warrior-mystic NazBol.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 19:13:10 2022 No.21046684 >>21046578 No. How the fuck do you read Eumeswil or The Forest Passage and think that? Oh wait, you don't.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 19:41:14 2022 No.21046765 >>21044689 >Twitter Screencap Fuck you

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 19:45:11 2022 No.21046777 >>21044689 Why are there naked men on his avatar?

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 19:47:17 2022 No.21046786 >>21046777 Physical excellence and beauty intimidates the spiteful mutants of this world.

Anonymous Mon Sep 26 19:51:25 2022 No.21046801
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Daily reminder that BAP got humiliated and BTFO by a tradcath. Also BAP lives in mortal terror that a trans girl who works as a computer programmer for the NSA will dox him and ruin his life despite being some fag who thinks New York City should be destroyed like Troy

Anonymous Mon Sep 26 19:53:25 2022 No.21046804

>>21044689
All great works by themselves. Maybe a bit edgy, but you can’t deny that they all have a flavor totally missing from your cookie cutter English lit class assigned reads, and most people will go through life not knowing this other side of literature even exists as a consequence. But it just seems like putting them into a package by someone they don’t like makes /lit/ screech particularly. Xi Jinping recommending Stendhal has no particular effect on my opinion of Stendhal for instance or any other books he packages with him. The only real offensive part is an implication that those books are the only ones a young man needs to read though in my opinion

Anonymous Mon Sep 26 19:56:38 2022 No.21046812
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>>21046584
Ah so a LARPer and cuckservative

>>21046578
This

>>21046786
BAP looks gay as fuck dude lmao, stfu already with this fake tough guy self
serious act, youre legit embarrassing yourself when you act all "tough and serious"

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 19:58:26 2022 No.21046819 >>21046786 But why have images of naked men in the first place? I would never admire an athletic man, because they are basically invisible to me.

Anonymous Mon Sep 26 20:02:02 2022 No.21046831

>>21046801
America First incels got massively triggered by BAP exposing Nick Fuentes as a homosexual with a catboy fetish. The autistic seething that followed was hilarious to watch and their impotent rage didn't impress anyone but their most deluded sycophants.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 20:02:27 2022 No.21046832 >>21044689 Conversion to what?

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 20:02:36 2022 No.21046834 >>21046831 >impotent rage ok, so BAP then?

Anonymous Mon Sep 26 20:42:17 2022 No.21047003
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>>21046804
>The only real offensive part is an implication that those books are the only ones a young man needs to read though in my opinion
A young man should read the Bible and the complete works of Friedrich Wilhelm Nietzsche.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 20:44:05 2022 No.21047011 >>21046812 >Ah so a LARPer and cuckservative Bro he literally almost died a dozen times in battle. What the fuck do you mean LARPer? Doesn't get much less larpy than that.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 20:52:35 2022 No.21047046 >>21047003 >Average blonde slut wearing malboro branded clothes is… le Æ S T H E T I C

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 21:10:19 2022 No.21047113 File: 925 KB, 516x777, ALT LEMUR002.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>21045902 yes?

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 21:30:38 2022 No.21047183 >>21047046 yes

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 23:46:02 2022 No.21047622 >>21047011 He means NazBol-ism is larpy

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 27 00:17:47 2022 No.21047728 >>21046765 /thread

Anonymous Tue Sep 27 00:32:32 2022 No.21047791

>>21047046
Yes.
White men and white women are UNIVERSALLY ranked as more attractive by both non-white men and women on dating sites.

The reality is - you all want a taste of the Aryan water polo boy that you think you "deserve," and you're salty that you're not getting him.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 27 01:10:04 2022 No.21047954 >>21044689 I think BAP is in need of a certain "conversation" himself. Preferably one with Mike Pence and a car battery.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 27 01:11:17 2022 No.21047966 Notes from the Underground would fit in as well

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 27 01:18:23 2022 No.21047991 >>21045206 How many layers of larp are you under right now? Nietzsche has more substance than all of the authors you listed combined.

>>	࿇ C Œ M G E N V S ࿇ !KNDY/Ar.iI Tue Sep 27 01:41:27 2022 No.21048051 File: 225 KB, 2048x1140, WIGGLE KENNEARS.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] «CONVERSION PACKAGE»? MORE LIKE: «PERVERSION HODGEPODGE».

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 27 01:52:24 2022 No.21048088 File: 47 KB, 1023x682, 1659636819268.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>21044978 >>21045091 >>21045132 >These god-dang Straussians are corrupting the youth with their Jap novels and WWI memoirs

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 27 02:03:57 2022 No.21048139 >>21047622 Well, I think that he's dumb and gay. So there's that.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 27 06:58:32 2022 No.21048854 >>21048088 Kek

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 27 07:44:24 2022 No.21048919 >>21044742 >I only read to impress women I couldn't bother finding a reddit basedjak, so just envision me portraying you as one

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 27 08:09:16 2022 No.21048976 >>21044689 Enlightened intellectuals (deformed faggots) when I saw through their neck with a butterknife: OwO

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 27 08:19:02 2022 No.21048993 >>21045888 No dice?

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 27 10:00:37 2022 No.21049235 >>21044714 Fpbp

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 27 15:46:09 2022 No.21050158 You people are such fucking contrarians. I'm 100% sure that a few years or maybe even months from now everybody here will be claiming that Paulo Coelho and JK Rowling are the all time greatest authors.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 27 16:40:02 2022 No.21050320 >>21050158 >JK Rowling She is

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 27 17:16:26 2022 No.21050420 >>21046819 You’re in the closet

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 27 17:25:45 2022 No.21050444 >>21044689 wtf I love federal agents now, I'll donate to his patreon!

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 27 20:21:15 2022 No.21051028 >>21044689 If you had to choose just one, it would be The Dwarf. This much is baste. >>21044742 >woman who reads Is statistically bound to be mid. unless STEMcel

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 27 20:44:52 2022 No.21051105 why the fuck is there so much b*pshilling here suddenly?

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 27 20:46:11 2022 No.21051108 >>21051028 mid + literate > hot + dull hot + literate is such a vanishingly rare combination you might as well act like it doesn't real

Anonymous Tue Sep 27 21:07:33 2022 No.21051187
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>>21051108
>hot + dull
Perfect. I’ve come to terms with the fact that I’ll never find a literate woman who I can hold an intelligent conversation with, especially about the topics I’m interested in (military history, continental philosophy, the Renaissance).

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 27 21:10:11 2022 No.21051202 >>21051108 >Is statistically bound to be mid. unless STEMcel understood midwit, very much agrees with what I've seen

Anonymous Tue Sep 27 21:10:37 2022 No.21051206
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>>21051108
Not what that anon meant by "mid".
Moreover.
>imagine judging the value of a woman and your level of attraction to her by her ability to manipulate rationalistic abstractions
How primitive! Women are for eros, not for philosophical conversations! Your poor fool. If you want to play at an intellectual, go visit a book club or speak to autists. Maybe become gay and land yourself a twinky philosophy bf. But for women - women want, they need love! Not your pointless blather!

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 27 21:13:09 2022 No.21051226 File: 165 KB, 600x633, 0000067ReneGuenon.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>21051187 >especially about the topics I’m interested in (military history, continental philosophy, the Renaissance). ... And Traditionalism? Right, anon?

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 27 21:35:21 2022 No.21051351 File: 155 KB, 828x1117, BAA7B48D-4523-49C7-86B0-AE41628914E0.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>21051226 Yes I do have Traditionalist leanings

Anonymous Tue Sep 27 21:44:22 2022 No.21051387
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>>21051351
Based.
Btw good job anon. Thanks to your pic, this is the first time I've gotten horny at a woman wearing extremely stupid clothes, in part because of the stupid clothes.

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Anonymous Tue Sep 27 23:33:04 2022 No.21051842
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>>21044689
Not important, BAP wrote an excellent ‘conversion package’ himself, far better than Storm of Steel of example.
Anyway how do you know that it's his (new) account?
Even if it's not him but one of his followers: It's disappointing to see him/them believing Russia's propaganda and shilling it.
Especially weird since BAP and his followers are in general very in favor of white ethnonationalism, fond of Nazis but in the Ukraine war they advocate on for white 'Nazis' - according to Russia - getting raped by caucasian and asiatic hordes of the Russian globohomo Empire which has been and still is bankrolling leftist groups and parties from commiunist parties to BLM to 'greenish' anti-nuclear groups.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 28 00:49:32 2022 No.21052077 >>21051842 You really think BAM is better than Storm of Steel?

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 28 00:52:45 2022 No.21052090 >>21044689 I’ve read all of them except The Dwarf and SoS and they are all good to great but with flaws(as most books have), but I fail to see how this is “conversion” literature

Anonymous Wed Sep 28 01:05:28 2022 No.21052143

>>21051108
>hot + literate is such a vanishingly rare combination you might as well act like it doesn't real
Believe it or not but I found an escort who met this combination, and she was not even charging high-end rates (middle-upper tier rates). It was a little unbelievable.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 28 01:10:16 2022 No.21052161 >>21044689 >BAP more like BRAAAAAAAP

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 28 01:17:28 2022 No.21052198 >Mishima Is he trying to convert them into being a homo or what? How can rightoids tolerate his writing when it’s nearly impossible to divorce from his faggotry?

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 28 03:36:32 2022 No.21052627 >>21044742 Stop dating mkultra victims, and start helping them see the light.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 28 04:06:04 2022 No.21052714 >>21044714 fpbp

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 28 04:07:08 2022 No.21052718 >>21044742 BAP is gay so this makes perfect sense

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 28 08:06:59 2022 No.21053269 >>21052143 that sounds exceedingly based. a legit hot + smart hooker is a profoundly dangerous combination. literal suck your bus.

Anonymous Wed Sep 28 08:19:12 2022 No.21053293

>>21044795
In many ways Nostromo is Conrad's most complex and sophisticated novel, particularly in it's underlying politics.
The real barrier to its immediate enjoyment are those first 80-90 pages of describing the environs of Sulaco Bay. I had to make 3 or 4 attempts to plow through this very dry and yet intricate prolonged description that was almost completely devoid of the human element. It was a pure landscape. Even now I think about this decades later. (I read it in the 70's twice).
I've given it to others to read and they've rejected the novel with disgust on this account alone but I think it's actually quite a powerful part of the overall structure of the novel which is really a kind of parable on the New World, of the Americas and the need for bimetalism and the human toll it takes to implement it.

This oppressive tiresome introductory 90 pages evokes the lonely solitude of the New World. Vast spaces devoid of men, of human culture, of history. If you've ever gone to a remote empty place far from civilization where you ache with boredom that's what Conrad is evoking. This is the bleak theatrical setting where his tormented puppets will act out their obscure drama. They will hope dream toil, endure, risk their very lives, in a deadly gamble to provide America with the price of its political freedom that is totally evanescent.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 28 08:26:26 2022 No.21053305 >>21048993 Search the /lit/ wiki for doomer stuff: it's effectively the same.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 28 08:29:42 2022 No.21053313 >>21053269 >> that sounds exceedingly based. a legit hot + smart hooker is a profoundly dangerous combination. literal suck your bus. This is a very old joke now https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/1974/12/16/the-whore-of-mensa

Anonymous Wed Sep 28 08:31:07 2022 No.21053314

>>21053293
How old are you? Is Nostromo your favourite Conrad?

It's by far his best book, but I'm not sure if its my favourite. The entire reason I read Conrad is for his beautiful descriptions of nautical life around the Edwardian period, prior to the mechanization of freight and the total eclipse of the sailing ship; yet the nautical element is mostly absent from Nostromo. A great pity!

I read my edition's Introduction of it (after finishing the book) and thought it quite good. It talked about how Conrad had a Marginalist's view of human interaction, where a sufficient push in any direction would eventually overturn all of a person's prior convictions, solely on the basis of the immediacy of a good enough deal. He really is a writer of his time: this very economic explanation of human behaviour really wouldn't have meshed with the wars & interwar periods.

Anonymous Wed Sep 28 08:39:20 2022 No.21053331

>>21051187
>Perfect. I’ve come to terms with the fact that I’ll never find a literate woman who I can hold an intelligent conversation with, especially about the topics I’m interested in (military history, continental philosophy, the Renaissance).

I've realized that women and men are very different in their interests and hard history particularly of wars and banking and business is not going to be particularly interesting to a woman and if she wants to talk about the architecture and interior decorating of Versailles and other French chateaux of the ancien regime well I'm totally there. And so on. But they're not you know, not even for that kind of stuff. Definitely not N. American women. It's a fucking spiritual intellectual desert.

The only woman I can think of that could provide you or me what we want would be someone like Vicky Ward for example

https://youtu.be/4M9H0BHKTHw

You might want to try her Liar's Ball which is really an excellent portrait of Manhattan's obsessively greedy and competitive real estate magnates or Kushner Inc which is like part 2 of Liar's Ball.

She's English and she moves in that mid Atlantic high society of money, and literary stars so dream on ever getting a lover like that.

When I went to finish my history degree I had a girl that was crazy about me in one of my classes. She asked me out twice. but I saw how she behaved with younger men than me and her young Hillary Clinton antics froze my blood i my veins. She was meticulous, punctilious, a straight A girl but her concept of history was always to focus on the utmost in trivia, trash. She was a synchronized swimmer and she wrote her masters thesis on Hollywood and the history of synchronized swimming. They're so desperate for suckers now they'll let you write your thesis on anything kek.

Anonymous Wed Sep 28 08:40:01 2022 No.21053333

>>21051842
What a horrible post. Slavs are subhuman (especially Ukrainians whose national identity is a meme and founded on the delusion that they are NOT Russian). The more they kill each other the better. America is the great satan and Russia balancing the hegemony is a good thing for any dissident in the West.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 28 08:43:20 2022 No.21053345 >>21053293 What are some novels that have genuinely challenged you, novels that you either loved for whatever purpose or maybe ones that caused you to look at the world or some aspect of it differently? I'm curious since you're older than me

Anonymous Wed Sep 28 08:47:19 2022 No.21053353

>>21053314
I'm 69.
My favorite Conrad? hmm...Conrad was deeply repelled by Dostoyevsky and being a Polish aristocrat there would be that visceral revulsion for such a passionate Russian Orthodox fellow. He found Dostoyevsky's novels grotesque, mishappen like hunchbacks and other deformed cripples. Paradoxically Conrads most gripping novels are very much in the mold of Dostoyevsky; The Secret Agent and Under Western Eyes which are as far from his nautical experiences as possible. I've read pretty much everything by him and when he's at his worst I think of what a Danish friend once said of him in condemnation; "He reads newspapers".

I would say that Nostromo is his greatest acheivement artistically, his most powerful and perfect work. I deeply admire Nigger of the Narcissus. The Secret Agent is perhaps the most gripping.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 28 09:00:03 2022 No.21053385 >>21053353 Is Conrad (and perhaps Dostoevsky) among your favorite authors?

Anonymous Wed Sep 28 09:03:19 2022 No.21053392
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>>21053345
I taught myself French around 35 to 40 years old to escape from the Anglosphere mentality, not that the Anglosphere is a particularly bad thing but just because it's important to get some other points of view, other ways of thinking. By the way, Conrad was Polish, wrote his novels in French, then translated them to English.

Many novels are constructed upon memoirs. Thackaray's Barry Lyndon and Gogol's Dead Souls for example are pretty much straight up plagarisms of Giacomo di Casanova's memoirs. The first thing I really read in French was the 12 volume Plon Edition that took 4 months to work through. I can talk about this for hours and hours, bore you shitless. The Plon edition was a project by pretty much all the greatest scholars of the 18th century to ascertain whether he really existed. They tracked him everywhere and found him precisely where he said he was with the very people he said he was with. It's a magnificent book. It's the best single resource we have on the 18th century and how people lived. Check out Fellini's Casanova if you ever get the chance. It's up on Rutracker.org. Excellent movie. Fellini hated Casanova. Casanova was a secret agent for the Freemasons plotting to overthrow the Ancien Regime. The plot succeeded much to Casanova's dismay as it turned out that there was nothing that he loved more in the world than the culture of the Ancien Regime.

The big challenge for me in French is Louis Ferdinand Celine but I'm winning. My French is good enough to catch his subtle references, his nuances. Not quite James Joyce's Finnegan's Wake but almost.

Get your hands on a copy of Huysman's A Rebours then read Waugh's Brideshead Revisited. You'll have a lot of fun, an immense pleasure. Life was made for a pleasure not for a pain.

I'm not much for poetry but you know, read Spenser's Faerie Queen. Take your time. I read good literature all the time out loud esp the French.

Beckett's More Pricks Than Kicks, don't miss it.
Huizinga's Waning of the Middle Ages.
Barbara Tuchmann's Proud Tower then August 1914

Milton + GF Handel ...L'allegro et il penserosos. (skip il moderato a non miltonian addition)
https://youtu.be/PL_4VQphfQg

Read it carefully as you listen.

https://youtu.be/xPZFHBzQ_oM

Anonymous Wed Sep 28 09:08:30 2022 No.21053401

>>21053353
Dostoyevskys were Polish aristocrats too, ironically. Both Dostojewski and Korzeniowski became other imperial peoples, one Russian another British, reflecting each in their own alterity.
Neither one was from Poland proper, it was either the Ukraine or Belarus.

Anonymous Wed Sep 28 09:10:31 2022 No.21053406
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https://www.biblio.com/book/histoire-ma-vie-12-tomes-6/d/1359166365?aid=frg&srsltid=AR5OiO0mYoIE-yx6VdUOt8p0WxyOrIvrvkjf9S800BHsNVsoaWf3xl8FTbw

What other movie has a screenplay written by Anthony Burgess where the hero recites poetry by Ariosto as he prepares to commit suicide on London Bridge after being given syphilis and robbed at gunpoint by two atrocious whores, mother and daughter?

https://youtu.be/YwberM3sq9A

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 28 09:11:33 2022 No.21053407 >>21053401 Interesting...but Dostoyevsky was Russian Orthodox and despised Catholicism...He really blows off on Poles in The Idiot.

Anonymous Wed Sep 28 09:14:55 2022 No.21053411

>>21053392
Ha, this is excellent!

I am titillated by your fascination with Casanova! I read an abridged version of the complete first 2 volumes, up until he makes the magical operation.

Given your love of French, do you read any Montaigne?

I have a copy of Huysman's book after reading The Picture of Dorian Gray. Looks like A Rebours will be moved up to a top spot in my reading list.

Oh, and I loved Tuchman's Proud Tower and August 1914 books. Such a gifted history writer.

What do you think about Shakespeare?

Anonymous Wed Sep 28 09:25:52 2022 No.21053437

>>21053411
>What do you think about Shakespeare?

the BBC series from the 1980's. The Hamlet is unfortunate but the rest is excellent. I think Anthony Andrews is the greatest actor of our time. He plays Octavio in Romeo and Juliette. And of course he plays Sebastian Flyte in Brideshead Revisited.

Read Shakespeare's Last Plays by Dame Frances Yates of the Warburg Courtault Institute. And get her Rosicrucian Enlightenment too.
I've read some Montaigne but really Stendahl is closest to my heart. He's possessed with this passionate love of Italy that nonetheless has no illusions about its criminality, its cruelty that somehow is interleavened with its genius, it's sublime passion. He wrote all these essays and short stories about Italy that are so painful to read that I have difficulty dealing with them psychologically. And I've been holding him in reserve but every time I dip into Balzac I get powerful visions...I love peering into the past through this dirty little scratched window to reveal these mystical scenes of squalor and misery and ineffable glamor from the past. I'm addicted to it.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 28 09:27:35 2022 No.21053440 >>21053411 https://youtu.be/5BLBQIwZ_h4 One of the 10 greatest movies every made. Forget Kenneth Brannagh. Not worth your time.

Anonymous Wed Sep 28 09:39:42 2022 No.21053463

>>21053437
>>21053440
Saved, saved and saved.

Have you read Proust? I'll be starting that next month. I plan on reading the entirety of In Search of Lost Time over perhaps a few years. Wish I could enjoy it in the French. And do you like Flaubert? Maupassant?

I'm curious as to what you'll be reading next!

Anonymous Wed Sep 28 09:44:50 2022 No.21053479

>>21053463
Salambo is awesome adventure but The Temptations of St Anthony is superb with this glorious ending. Madame Bovary is too real. I read it but I know her well and it's just too painful as is Beuvard et Pechuchet.

Hang around I'm trying to upload the OED in 28 fascicles to you so you can enjoy all the historical readings of words. You're going to discover all sorts of amazing works of literature and revisit a lot that you already know.

Stuff like Otway's Venice Preserved and Webster's Duchess of Amalfi. It's taking a long time to load it to FileTransfer IO

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 28 09:45:49 2022 No.21053483 >>21053392 >not that the Anglosphere is a particularly bad thing but it is

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 28 09:49:05 2022 No.21053485 https://filetransfer.io/data-package/Cosotyrd#link Around 600mb..

Anonymous Wed Sep 28 09:51:57 2022 No.21053487
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>>21053483
I have to hand it to the Brits; they made a huge investment in the OED the full 28 volume version and it's a magnificent acheivement that more than any other thing has led to the predominance of the English language. No other language has such a dictionary of such depth and scope.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oxford_English_Dictionary#:~:text=Work%20began%20on%20the%20dictionary,Collected%20by%20The%20Philological%20Society.

Anonymous Wed Sep 28 09:52:17 2022 No.21053488

>>21053331
>They're so desperate for suckers now they'll let you write your thesis on anything kek.
Is it still worth it to go to university to study philosophy, the liberal arts etc or could you feasibly self-study most of it? (Assuming you don’t plan to use the degree to find a job)

Anonymous Wed Sep 28 09:54:41 2022 No.21053491

>>21053479
basically you consider the french and italians to be more sensual, more nuanced, more expressive, more alive and passionate to life itself than basically the americans and the english?

not saying i disagree, would love your take on this. what do those cultures off you in writing that the english-speaking can't?

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 28 09:55:52 2022 No.21053493 >>21053487 the english get the love of their language from their french ancestors

Anonymous Wed Sep 28 09:58:26 2022 No.21053500

>>21053488
It's not worth the money.
The only thing I'd got to university for now is to be an electrical engineer but even that...I don't know the ins and outs of the business. I just got a history degree and it's worthless. You do not want to be a teacher. Fuck no.

I think with the kind of standards I see here that your self study will probably give you a superior level of intellectual rigor than the shit ball profs you'll meet. I took a Shakespeare course and the prof declared the first day that Shakespeare bored her and she wanted to talk about Kung Fu on TV the previous night. l had to work hard to pay for that shit.

Anonymous Wed Sep 28 10:02:40 2022 No.21053510

>>21053491

I was going to say learn Italian. You know for a math degree at UBC you need a second language. Russian, French, Italian, Japanese...

Fuck Sanskrit.

English doesn't have the detailed declension of verbs or the person, gender and singular and plural of nouns that Romance languages do leaving it imprecise and vague where Romance languages don't suffer from that. Ancient Greek and Sanskrit by comparison are hyper precise and therefore unambiguous.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 28 10:04:04 2022 No.21053512 >>21053510 I didn't mean "fuck sanskrit" quite the contrary...

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 28 10:05:43 2022 No.21053515 Anyway It's been beautiful talking with you guys. Truly enjoyable. I'm going to hit the sack. Grab that OED that I uploaded while its still up there.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 28 10:07:14 2022 No.21053519 >>21053500 What do you do for work? I know there are some jobs like consulting where the subject of your degree doesn’t matter much.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 28 10:08:11 2022 No.21053526 >>21053515 Come back later. Don't forget. I'll make a thread later today about MONTAIGNE, make sure to post in it! Thanks for all the recommendations, greatly appreciated.

Anonymous Wed Sep 28 13:37:22 2022 No.21054041
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>>21052077
As a means of ‘conversion package’, aka propaganda, to influence people etc.
Not the literary quality itself.
BAM is pretty self-contained as a

>>21053333
>(especially Ukrainians whose national identity is a meme and founded on the delusion that they are NOT Russian). The more they kill each other the better. America is the great satan and Russia balancing the hegemony is a good thing for any dissident in the West.
You are delusional and repeat russian propaganda you fool. Do you seriously think that a stronger Russia as a dangerous adversarry will revitalize the West? On what basis?

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>>21053293
>(I read it in the 70's twice).
>>21053353
>I'm 69.
Alright gramps, how did you find this anime forum and do you have any important advice or great insights on life?

Anonymous Wed Sep 28 14:04:53 2022 No.21054102

>>21054041
>Do you seriously think that a stronger Russia as a dangerous adversarry will revitalize the West?
Nta but the threat of serious war is good for the poor and middle classes long as the war never happens. If Russia becomes a legitimate threat to the USA the leaders in the US will most likely have to relent on their dumb social agendas and increase wages for the sake of readiness.

Anonymous Wed Sep 28 14:28:29 2022 No.21054160

>>21054041
Vladimir Putin is the most powerful anti-liberal, anti-communist, anti-leftist on the planet, and that the Russian state is at least nominally friendly to Christianity and traditional values nominally, makes it attractive to RWers who view Western civilization as a runaway train that they can't stop or control from within. And they're not entirely wrong to think this. There is no RW ideology or political power, party, or candidate, in Western countries.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 28 14:43:31 2022 No.21054198 >>21053345 Ernst Junger's novels did this for me. Although I cannot say it's been entirely positive. If you go deep enough, what you see can be depressing, particularly if you don't have a certain station in life.

Anonymous Wed Sep 28 16:35:36 2022 No.21054600

>>21053407
There were and are still Orthodox Poles in both Poland and Belarus, a non-insignificant minority always overlooked. Not Feodor's case though, he recalls his family as thoroughly Russian and Orthodox, and his father was originally studying as a priest before switching to medicine by imperial decree.

His fixation on Poles still probably has to do with his origins, but it somewhat erratic. E.g. a character for total irredeemable moral deprivation, Svidrigaylov, is named after a historical Orthodox Lithuanian duke Swidrigello who lead a massive revolt of Orthodox Russians against Catholic Poles and Lithuanians - go figure why an Orthodox defender of faith gives his name to a total degenerate written by a Russified Orthodox Pole.
My pet theory is that Dostojewski, a Polish aristocrat, coat of arms and clan and all, at times crossed paths with Catholic Poles during his study years who would immediately presume him to be 'one of us', get burned from his strong Orthodoxy and both would get mad at each other - enough times to make it stick. Like some pro-Empire Protestant Mickey O'Hara getting real tired of dealing with his Catholic co-ethnics.

Anonymous Wed Sep 28 16:46:29 2022 No.21054642

>>21053488
I got a free state-funded masters in Philosophy at the either #1 or #2 Uni of my big-ass country, and I still think 70% of my time was wasted there. The rest 30% I would never get on my own - but you will probably get it in 2 months of intense paid mentorship instead of 2 years of miss and miss. Maybe pay for some private time with a good philosopher and you will be leagues ahead in several months time.
Oh and you are guaranteed to be surrounded by dorks, nerds, nibblers and dweebs, some self-righteous at that.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 28 16:58:39 2022 No.21054697 File: 93 KB, 840x560, review-kurt-schlichter-kelly-turnbull-novels-840.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>21044689 gay. they need action novels written by soldiers, who would ever read fiction written by soft men

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 28 17:01:37 2022 No.21054707 >>21045098 yeah and stefan molyneux is so independent he brags about his masters degree every opportunity and richard spencer is very heterosexual and nick fuentes is a seriously pious Christian

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 28 19:16:01 2022 No.21055221 File: 78 KB, 1079x805, E3B436A4-C1D3-4136-977B-BCCEA291B7D9.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] It’s pretty funny that a RW intellectual would recommend books by a schizophrenic Japanese homosexual and an exiled Polish anticolonialist

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 28 19:28:04 2022 No.21055276 >>21044689 wow he is even more of a pseud than I imagined, what an utter joke he is

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 28 20:45:57 2022 No.21055681 >>21048051 You realize you worship a holywood girl who's been groomed since birth by (((holywood paedos))) and who will probably be blacked sooner or later right? get a fucking grip faggot.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 28 21:08:09 2022 No.21055802 >>21054697 >soft men None of them were soft (with the exception of Nietzsche after he contracted syphilis)

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 29 03:22:58 2022 No.21057213 >>21044689 Isn't this guy Jewish and an immigrant? LOL

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 29 03:56:59 2022 No.21057318 >>21044714 No shit it's entry level it's supposed to appeal to newcomers, retard.

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>>21044689
This is unironically better than 99% of what /lit/ pretends to read but it's hardly the best works of the writers involved. Somehow that makes it entry level? Seems like a retarded notion.

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 29 05:08:06 2022 No.21057515 >>21057393 Nostromo is Conrad’s best work

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 29 05:32:20 2022 No.21057589 >>21044689 BAP is homosexual and a literal zionist just read nietzsche >BUT MUH ENTRY LEVEL either you get filtered and remain a slave or you don't

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 29 05:33:36 2022 No.21057596 >>21047791 white people can't breed though, so reality disagrees with dating sites

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 29 05:38:03 2022 No.21057605 >>21055221 Retard, Poles and Japanese Gays are uber-right wing also colonialism was leftist

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 29 05:45:01 2022 No.21057633 >>21055276 Not an argument

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 29 06:06:10 2022 No.21057710 >>21057605 >colonialism was leftist [Citation needed]

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 29 06:19:24 2022 No.21057744 >>21057710 its somewhere in this book

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 29 07:40:28 2022 No.21057914 >>21055221 >RW >Intellectual he’s a comedy radio show host with a taste for the tropics.

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 29 07:52:36 2022 No.21057935 >>21057914 Isn’t he an academic at Yale

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 29 07:54:56 2022 No.21057937 >>21057605 I hate Americans so much it’s unreal

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 29 09:15:27 2022 No.21058119 >>21057596 kek

Anonymous Thu Sep 29 10:25:10 2022 No.21058237

>>21054642
kek this totally. Especially now that universities have been taken over by feminists and troons operating with Maoist tactics to destroy anyone they can for the sheer joy of persecuting victims. Also back in the 60's and 70's you needed a university quality libary. (oh remember waddling over to the gigantic card catalogues and then wasting hours in the stacks digging up your necessary readings? Almost as much fun as opening day and lining up for 4 hours to get your library card.

I love just snagging any book I want effortlessly off my 1gb/s fiber optic link.

Save money save every dime live like a studious monk. University culture sucks.

https://youtu.be/pi_HiInBipc

Imagine thinking that this has anything to do with your education and then paying for it through the nose.

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 29 11:15:32 2022 No.21058381 >>21058237 >https://youtu.be/pi_HiInBipc [Open] Nothing wrong with this

Anonymous Thu Sep 29 12:17:48 2022 No.21058571

>>21053488
I don't think anyone should go to university to learn or study a topic. The juice is simply not worth the squeeze. You should only go to enter a particular profession or socioeconomic class. This is what university is about and has actually always been about. Studying philosophy at a State university will be less than worthless, unfortunately.

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 29 12:28:29 2022 No.21058603 >>21044714 fpbp

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 29 14:13:59 2022 No.21058872 >>21058571 >This is what university is about and has actually always been about. I thought that at least some people went to university purely to learn about stuff they were interested in the past. Was this never the case?

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 29 15:28:59 2022 No.21059059 >>21044717 spbp

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 29 18:15:30 2022 No.21059603 >>21058872 Actually, no. The medieval university was a way for the middle class to set their kids up with a not-quite aristocratic but nonetheless upper-class profession. The three main disciplines were theology, law, and medicine.

Anonymous Thu Sep 29 22:18:27 2022 No.21060630

>>21046812
ill bet im taller than you and lift heavier weights than you and overall i would kick your ass 100 out of 100 times, also im smarter than you and definitely more handsome and well-adjusted. i probably have more money in my savings account and im overall in a better position of life and happier than you. i and this poster you reply to are tough guys in your world, yes.

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 29 22:22:54 2022 No.21060663 >>21053510 >declension of verbs

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 29 22:24:22 2022 No.21060672 >>21057515 Only Conrad Chads know

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 30 02:36:13 2022 No.21061692 File: 29 KB, 409x409, BAP.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>21046801 Costin Alamariu is well known.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 30 09:05:59 2022 No.21062618 >>21044714 It's not even that, its just some shitpost in book form.

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