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'In his 1986 article, "Anti-Semitism and National Socialism", Postone developed new thinking on modern antisemitism, and particularly on National Socialist ideology. Postone saw antisemitism as a major element in the development of a socio-historical theory of consciousness determined by social forms that are subjected to socialization under capitalism. What is said about modern antisemitism may also describe a trend of vulgar anti-capitalism that seeks the personification of the elements of capitalism that are so hated. Postone showed that modern antisemitism is very different from most forms of racism and Christian antisemitism; it differs from them because it casts a huge global invisible power of international Jewry, the idea of a global conspiracy that is intrinsic to modern antisemitism.

Postone analyzed antisemitism against the Marxian notion of the dual character of the commodity category. And he observed that the characteristics that antisemitism attributes to Jews are the same as for value: abstraction, invisibility, automation, impersonal domination. Postone argued that the form of socialization under capitalism (the historically specific function of the spirit of labour under capitalism) makes it possible to separate the concrete (as socially "natural" sound, true, etc.) and the abstract (as socially constructed, historically specific and contingent). This opposition between the concrete and the abstract, determined by social forms, pervades all forms of subjectivity, and thus helps to understand a central feature of the National Socialist ideology, because this ideology was not fundamentally anti-modern and it would be wrong to label it as such. It is true, Postone argued, that Nazism claimed to defend the peasantry and craftsmanship, but it also valued modern technological and industrial production. Nazism was rather a vulgar form of anti-capitalism. The rejection of the bourgeoisie and its values is present in Nazism, but Postone saw Nazi ideology as the affirmation of the concrete dimension of capitalism - which includes technology and industrial production, as well as the peasantry and manual labour - as the heart of a healthy, organic social life. This stood in contrast with the abstract dimension represented by finance capital. The abstract is instead rejected - and it is personified by the Jews. Postone analyzed the figure of the Jew in modern antisemitism as the embodiment of abstract value, and extermination camps as a misbegotten notion of a "factory" to destroy value.'

What do you guys think of this?

>> No.21362157

>>21362062
is this the real D&E?

wtf?

>> No.21363316

>>21362062
>literal midwittery
And I'm no antisemite.

>> No.21363348

>>21362062
is this the real D&E?

>> No.21363509

This is atleast much better than other definitions of fascism and nazism like Umberto Eco and other marxist tards who just hinge the analysis on buzzwords and "I don't like that"

>> No.21364204

>>21362062
hey d&e, how's it going

>> No.21364224

>>21362062
Sounds like what Bordiga said, which may or may not be construed as Holocaust denial.

>> No.21364270

>>21364224
If you mean the article on the holocaust, "Bordiga" (actually a Jewish guy wrote the Auschwitz or the Great Alibi article) didn't argue anything ideological, he essentially just argued the holocaust was economically pragmatic given war time conditions.
If you mean his general theory of fascism, I don't remember. His stuff on fascism is on libcom though. It's probably much better than Postone's drivel.

>> No.21364280

>>21362062
It’s nice poetry but it isn’t an accurate depiction of German exterminationalist settler colonialism. Browning C (1993) _Ordinary Men_ is a more realistic depiction of how genocide occurs than Postone’s high faluting meaning systems. For that matter so is Theweleit K.

>> No.21366171

>>21364204
What I want to know is, where are all the people bitching and moaning about long term relationships, marriages, work, children and mortgages in the WWOYM threads

>>21364224
>>21364270
thanks for the suggestion