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/wwoym/ "The Great North American Pastime"

previously >>21624339

>> No.21630571

When I imagine the future I see a society with complex technology.

>> No.21630576

Im tired of living but too tired to end it..

>> No.21630583
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21630583

How to improve /lit/ and up the quality of the threads
By Anon

1) An eceleb board is created to contain all discussion related to influencers, YouTubers, tiktokers, streamers, etc. Any posting of booktubers would result in a 3 day ban. Twitter screen cap posting would result in a 3 day ban.
2) All “what am I in for” and “What did I think of it” threads result in a 3 day ban. Matter of fact, any thread where an OP asks a question about a book he hasn’t read (“is this book hard to into”; “Is this any good”) should be removed. Open a book and read it.
3) Threads with anons shilling their books (looking at you Gardner and whoever the fuck wrote Behead all Satans) is a 3 day ban. Go buy an ad.
4) Genre fic discussion is contained within the general. All threads talking about these genres outside of the general are removed.
5) Blog posts like what you’re currently reading are contained within WWOYM. Or go to /r9k/.
6) Recs are moved to /wsr/. This alone would remove 50% of bullshit and improve discussion. For those who are new, the wiki has a series of charts.

You’re welcome.

>> No.21630605

>>21630583
A simpler suggestion:
move philosophy and religion permanently to /his/
make a recc general
3 day /lit/ ban to anyone who has makes a post in another board (permanent if that board is /mu/ or /tv/)

>> No.21630609

>>21630605
>move philosophy and religion permanently to /his/
Yeah, or maybe a /Phil/ board.
>make a recc general
Nah, shit belongs in wsr
>3 day /lit/ ban to anyone who has makes a post in another board (permanent if that board is /mu/ or /tv/)
Kek

>> No.21630637
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21630637

i hate her because she will never hold my hand, kiss me, marry me, make love to me. i hate her because she doesn't even know i exist. i hate her because i love her

>> No.21630667

Is Jerry Saltz based? He claims it's harder to make art than it is to make money and I totally agree.

>> No.21630704

>>21630637
Handsome squidward

>> No.21630710

>>21630637
This is a 6/10 Latina.
Fucking go outside dude.

>> No.21630725
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>>21630710
i'm a 6/10 white dude, so we'd make a perfect match

>> No.21630740

>>21630637
>i hate her because she doesn't even know i exist
You can scratch that by simply talking to her

>> No.21630745

>>21630556
I hate Vintage, the publisher. Fuck their shitty paperbacks. Fuck you Vintage.

>> No.21630746
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>>21630637
I can feel your pain, fren

>> No.21630759

Woke up in the middle of the night with the urge to have sex. For fucks sake, I don’t wanna fuck random thots and go through the dehumanising grind of dating apps again. Lifting is great, but the increased libido that comes with it could fuck right off.
>>21630637
It’s just a latina, you delusional bastard. There’s a gazillion just like her on tinder.

>> No.21630781

>>21630759
the only matches i get on tinder are women who are a decade older than me and weigh twice as much as i do :(

>> No.21630796

>>21630781
Threadly reminder to use Instagram, not tinder

>> No.21630924

I can't be anything else but what i'am, and what i'am isn't enough.

>> No.21630930

>>21630924
>what norwooding does to a mf

>> No.21631024
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21631024

any advice how to learn from textbook?
never self studied

>> No.21631037

Couldn’t sleep. Tried unsuccessfully to read. I think I need a better shade for my bedside lamp. Have some neck pain but I don’t think it’s the cause of my sleeplessness. Applied tiger balm, very soothing and hot, Earlier, I cleaned my ears using a q-tip (I know you’re not supposed to) and extracted a glob of wax of which I was strangely proud. For some reason, I decided to smush it between my fingers. I don’t regret it but neither can I recommend it, much less give an account of what compelled me to do it. Later I had a nice big poo for which I felt the same pride, but I was not moved to get so handsy with it.

>> No.21631056

>>21630556
poor doggo
is he ok?

>> No.21631063

>>21631024
Some general tips:
Take notes about what you read (in your own words, don't copy) and highlight the important parts.
Make lists of key words or ideas. Look up key terms and ideas using Google or Wikipedia to help you understand better.
Read every day.
Try to imagine the information or ideas as real objects or scenarios. Create visuals in your mind.
Try to explain the things you've learned to another person, as if you're teaching them. If you don't have anyone to do this to you can pretend.

>> No.21631065

1440 minutes in a day.

>> No.21631070

One must either become a Kantian, or, starting from a Kantian foundation, think one's way out of Kantianism. So what are you, Anon?

>> No.21631076

i should try meditating again

>> No.21631180
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21631180

Whenever I watch porn out of habit, I quickly lose interest and masturbate to the fantasy of tenderly fucking my girlfriend instead.

This is how true love feels like, huh?

>> No.21631184

>>21630583
wouldn't it be easier for everyone if you just killed yourself instead, faggot?

>> No.21631185

Anyone here in their 30s and having bad back pain? Any tips to cope?

>> No.21631204

>>21631185
https://www.healthline.com/health/lower-back-stretches#piriformis-stretch
Doing these once or twice per day helped me with some mysterious lower back pain that appeared weeks ago. Barring that, exercising is a good way of strengthening your back. I know that some people who are doing physiotherapy for their backs do planks and that doing deadhangs can help in some cases as well. Yoga also helps a fuckton with some pains.

>> No.21631226

sometimes i listen to cocteau twins and Elizbeth fraiser music and mishear the lyrics and write them as poetry

>> No.21631311
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21631311

In the UK you are not even allowed to discuss and learn about right-wing philosophers.

>> No.21631312

>hello everyone and welcome to the thing, its great to see you all here
>why dont we start by going around and letting everyone share a fun fact about themselves
>lets start with you anon

>> No.21631374

I should’ve joined the military for a few years when I was younger.

>> No.21631380

>>21631311
People need to understand that universities are centers of civic and professional indoctrination and nothing more. Expecting to study dissident voices at university is like expecting anti-parliamentarian laws to be introduced at parliament, or a government worker expecting to be a dissident partisan and keep their job, or a priest who preaches atheism at the pulpit. Well, the latter might be possible but the others not.

>> No.21631385

>>21631380
They were studied just fine before ~2015. Things changed, and people who act like it's always been like this are retarded.

>> No.21631393

>>21631184
Seethe and cope tranny. Read a fucking book and stop thinking lit is your personal search engine.

>> No.21631403

I absolutely cannot write for shit. I've had a document open for three days and all I've done is write, delete, rewrite the same page over and over again. None of them feel right. Nothing feels like how I want it to.

>> No.21631432

>>21631385
The only thing that changed is the desired indoctrination and reaching a saturation point. That the method of indoctrination now includes civil rights schizophrenia and not basic professional mannerism is besides the point.

>> No.21631445

>>21631403
Try writing non-fiction

>> No.21631464

I hate my job so damn much. I’m really disappointed with…well, this. All of this. This whole life is really just disappointing and basically boring and uninspired.

>> No.21631473

pandeism is intuitively true

>> No.21631481

>>21631311
just hold it in secret

dugin had to read Heidegger on smuggled microfiche in abandoned basements

>> No.21631505

>>21631481
And he still became a tranny commie.

>> No.21631507

>>21630583
Fire all the board jannies, only leave the global illegality checks.
The more moderation the worse the culture. This is always the case but it surprises you retards every time when your dumb shit never works.

>> No.21631511

>>21631505
welcome to /lit/ where words don't mean anything and you can say anything you like

>> No.21631526

>>21631511
Dugin is a marxist, neomarxists are spiritually identical to trannies, QED

>> No.21631555

>>21630556
Test

>> No.21631634

>>21631226
lovely

>> No.21631710
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21631710

All I want to do is publish my novels, collected a few thousand dollars, and be relatively unknown like pic related. I don't want fame or millions.

>> No.21631755
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21631755

Being made by a guy who impregnated a pair of sisters, my interpretation is how women will let themselves be bred and used like farm animals once placed atop the proverbial pedestal.

Sad way to see things, glad I'm not French or Belgian, the Other French

>> No.21631757

>>21631185
Yin yoga

>> No.21631779

>>21631710
Why even collect a few thousand then? I want to publish some non-fiction personally.

>> No.21631782

>>21631185
Walking. Daily walks for 1+ hours cured my back pain. I think being mobile in a natural way is the key.

>> No.21631784
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https://youtu.be/ae8Yxo8-jSM


The year is 2024. The presidential debates are set to begin at the OPEC WWE Arena in New York sponsored by the Saudi royal family. Morgan Wallen blares over the loud speakers as Trump rolls down the walkway in his limousine waving a modified confederate flag that portrays Aunt Jemima cradling an abortion along with the confusing stitching at the bottom exclaiming, 'Come and Take it'. He raises his middle finger to the sea of red hats and is met with a roaring applause. Trump exits the vehicle and orders the illegal immigrants to form a human stairway so that he may properly enter the stage -- after which they are immediately deported. He positions himself behind the podium and patiently awaits his combatant.

Biden enters the arena with a new, modern version of the now-classic song from his childhood: Beethoven's Moonshine Ensalada -- a clever political ploy to appeal to both rural and Latinx voters. The cheering of the crowd is suspiciously loud as there appears to be no one on his side of the entryway -- The media reports his unrivaled popularity regardless. As he proceeds down the aisle, he is accompanied by lazy unionized railroad workers who show visible signs of illness coupled with unappreciative grumblings as they lament the forced opportunity to work on their day off. By the time he reached the stage, gas prices had jumped 75 cents and eggs became the new local currency. Biden attempts to enter the stage....but falls.

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>>21631784


The debate begins with Biden struggling to his feet. Trump, wasting no time, begins the assault -- He asks Biden why he never sat next to him on the plane trip to Epstein island? He had 15 chances. Biden -- predictably struggling to comprehend the situation he finds himself in -- fires back with the words, "Hot dog" then responds to his own response by muttering ...."Golden Retriever". Trump -- feeling threatened by this man's command of the language -- retorts, "Look at you! You think you have all of the best words now? I'll tell you something, I invented ALL of the words…even the BEST word….The N-WORD!" Biden pauses for a moment. The corners of his mouth begin to rise to create what some would call a 'smile'. In a swift, decisive motion he unveils his secret weapon -- A copy of the 'Art of the Deal'. The verbally abusive crowd was now silent. So quiet, you could almost hear Ruth Ginsburg burning in Hell. Trump was now on the defensive. He failed to remember one of the key axioms of the Republican party doctrine. That axiom was simple..."Reading is gay". There is no way the party would accept a reader like him. Or so he thought. The silence of the audience was mistaken by Biden and Trump as a sign of disappointment when, in fact, they simply did not recognize what Biden was holding -- This was the first time they had actually seen a book. Biden's brilliant plan had failed and subsequently the debate was over. The Republican candidate from the overwhelmingly Democratic state of New York had won. Defeated, Biden sheepishly approaches Trump, shakes his hand then whispers into his ear, "I'll see you on the plane tomorrow."

>> No.21631793

>>21631755
Rops claims the cherubim represent ancient, lost loves vanishing in tears. I think this follows with the impregnation theme of how bastardized pleasure children rob the father of his ideal/beloved children.

>> No.21631832
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21631832

Bored mechanic at work teaching an FNG, what should i do, an AMA or something else?

>> No.21631885

>>21631832
Talk to your FNG retard. The worst part about blue collar jobs is how nobody trains you or talks to you when your new and then you quit.

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21631895

any of you buy art? I'm suppressing the urge to spend a lot of money on a Gerhard Richter painting.

>> No.21631984

you don't want to know what the great north American pastime is

>> No.21631992

>>21631885
He is being trained by me and we talk, but his task currently demansd his full attention.

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21632001

Nose won't stop leaking and I have a whole day of work ahead of me. Fuck. And I haven't written a word for 3 days. Fuuuuuck. I don't know how to continue the story.

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Boy was this prophetic or what?

>> No.21632090

>>21631185
Don't sit on your coccyx. Sitting on your ass bone is one of he major causes of lower back pain. You're literally driving your entire weight onto the base of your spine at a single point. Be conscious of your posture. Kettlebell swings and stretches.

>> No.21632091

i do not feel anything

i know its very self absorbed to think about how much of nothing all the time im feeling but i cant feel anything at all. nothing is interesting and i dont have any thoughts. i wish i was just sad instead.

>> No.21632095

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>> No.21632103
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21632103

kek

>> No.21632127

>>21631992
Then it should demand yours too.

>> No.21632154

>>21630605
/his/ is so dogshit. I dont want to be stuck there

>> No.21632169

Dirt, dirt, dirt, dirt, dirt, everywhere dirt.

>> No.21632171

luv me mum
luv me sister
luv me girlfriend
luv women (so much its unreal)
'ate incels
'ate blackpillers
'ate whiners
'ate misogynists
simple as

>> No.21632176

>>21630605
>move philosophy
They're the only threads with consistent effortposts.

>> No.21632203

>>21631473
it's the first step in the journey of gnosticism

>> No.21632218

Just waiting in the advaitic realm for my wife to kill the antichrist then we're going shopping

>> No.21632233

>>21630556
As a minority, I hate woke shit because it robs us of the chance to create our own myths.

>> No.21632234

>>21632218
>tfw literally insane schizo gf
why even live

>> No.21632251

>>21632171
I honestly wish /r9k/ posters would just go to /r9k/ and stay in the hell they clearly want to live in instead of trying to make every other place a hell as well. Even if they do contribute to literary discussions here it is the most poisonous contributions, like you can viscerally tell immediately that it came from a sick and weak mind, lacking all vitality, and that entertaining such thoughts might infect you as well. And if you point it out to them, they just use it as further "proof" of their defeatism, and feel very morally wronged that people don't want to listen to their toxic bullshit about how you should kill yourself if you don't have a strong jaw or whatever.
I hate them much more than /pol/tards, to be honest - while /pol/tards are usually retarded and annoying, at least they're spirited.

>> No.21632266

I sometimes get the urge to walk in the streets and fight the strongest guy I can find. I am a weakling and I also look like one so I'd probably get punched unconscious if I did but it'd be an interesting experiment to make. I don't know. Like I really fucking want to fight some guy with everything I have and leave my coward life behind, you know ? I want to bleed on the asphalt and think "This is it. I'm a fucking idiot, but it doesn't actually hurt that much!" while everyone around is crying for help or filming.

I want to go on an adventure so damn hard.

>> No.21632270

>get home from work
>completely annihilated, 10 hour day with high intensity tasks
>realize I bought a pack of gummi bears a few days ago that I haven't eaten
>about to watch Timothy Dalton era Bond and eat candy like a bona fide retard
Fucking NICE and COMFY.

>> No.21632277

I gutted some sardines for dinner. It was tedious, but I made a little dish that was surprisingly tasty. Made rice with chicken broth, then mixed the rice with ginger. Fried the fish with soja sauce and then some green onion on top. I felt fancy and asian.

>> No.21632303

I'm really fucking pissed about the fact that I keep getting youtube notifications from Tesla, even though I'm not subscribed and I blocked them. Looks like Ol' Musky has got his stupid fat fingers in more pies.

>> No.21632308

I forgot what I was about to say.

>> No.21632324

If logic is supposed to help you reason well, then why does every logician have the same disparate views, different politics, different beliefs, without any consistency between the many logicians, as everyone else?

>> No.21632342

>>21632303
YouTube accounts get hijacked by crypto scammers with fake Tesla streams.

>> No.21632346
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>have people with blue eyes in the family
>be brown-eyed

>> No.21632353

>>21632342
Oh. Bet Musk still has something to do with it, tho.

>> No.21632369

>>21632346
If both your parente have blue eyes it may be time to ask some questions.

>> No.21632373

>>21632346
You carry the gene. What’s most embarrassing is the frog pictures in your hard drive

>> No.21632378

>>21632176
Sadly they also attract the other side of the spectrum

>> No.21632381

I’ve more or less chosen civil service as a career, but I don’t want to live in my state’s capital.

>> No.21632388

>>21632277
>meds can get sardines fresh
This made me irrationally envious. I've got mackerel smoked with ginger and lime so I really shouldn't care. If you want to feel fully weeb, put some kelp in with the rice next time.

>> No.21632449

Is the time you go to sleep prime time for depressive/anxious rumination for you too?
It sucks ass. During the day, it's easy to fall asleep, but you don't really want to do that. Than finally you lie to sleep and think of bullshit instead of sleeping.

>> No.21632474

>>21632449
I also had that phase when I was like 15

>> No.21632482

>>21632378
Who cares if there are retards in your thread? Are you so autistic you can't follow a good post chain?

>> No.21632486

>>21632474
I had it the strongest at like 12-14, it's returning now at 24 for some reason, back to that intensity.

>> No.21632497

I should be more patient, stick in one place and put down roots
Ironically, the only way I've successfully met people, especially girls, is by looking in other cities
So I keep jumping, hoping to find a partner and a life attached to her waiting for me
I end up more and more exhausted after each move
It'd be rediculous if it didn't very nearly work with my ex

>> No.21632499

>>21632449
No. It’s not prime. It’s a nuisance and you should stop worrying at this point in the day

>> No.21632505

>>21632381
Honestly, I don’t even really want to live in the city, but I’m tired of having no social or dating life out in the suburbs and having to use my car to go anywhere.

>> No.21632534

>>21630556
Throughout this past year, I have finally come to understand the appeal and appreciate the beauty of bellydancing/oriental dancing in general. Holy shit has it changed my perspective of female sensuality. These lasses were unto something deeply dangerous, it's insane. No wonder it got banned for so long.

>> No.21632541

>>21632266
i think it's more likely that you'd get accidentally killed by slamming the back of your head on the sidewalk, or if you're in western europe you'd end up getting stabbed. if you have to fight, why not just sign up at a martial arts gym and act tougher than you really are to get taught a lesson that won't cripple you?

>> No.21632570

>>21630556
This is the second phone interview I've let go. Just letting it ring unanswered. God damn I'm such a loser, too nervous to pick up the phone.
I don't know what to do with my life anymore. I feel hopeless

>> No.21632571

>>21632499
>you should stop worrying
I wish this sentence worked.

>> No.21632575

>>21632570
Are in-person interviews better or worse than phone ones for you? And what's your highest acquired formal education?

>> No.21632592

>>21632575
Both are anxiety inducing, but probably the phone is somewhat better as seeing someone all dressed up and serious looking would probably be intensely intimidating to me.
Highest formal education is a B.A in English literature.

>> No.21632601

>>21632449
Yes. And first thing in the morning.

>> No.21632605

>>21632592
I get you. In case you know in advance when they're gonna call, meditate like 8 minutes prior. It will get you through the interview. It works for me with things I wouldn't manage otherwise.

>> No.21632606

>>21632570
If you play the numbers game at first and just have a lot of awkward conversations/interviews, they’ll start to come naturally. But you have to work through the bad ones.

>> No.21632615

>>21632570
What you have to do is gain some courage so you can start racking up some victories and thereby gain some confidence. You have to be brave enough to fail, to be embarrassed, to be awkward, so that you can be experienced enough to succeed and successful enough to be confident.

>> No.21632631

>>21632570
Just pick up the fucking phone. Not like it's going to assault you and devour your lifeless corpse like some wild beast. Are you also afraid of your own shadow?

>> No.21632657

>>21632631
>Are you also afraid of your own shadow?
Yes

>> No.21632683

>>21632615
Yeah that's what I really need to do, but my problems have been compounding.
It's been a long month of fruitless job searching. My sleep schedule is fucked so some nights I don't sleep at all and then the next day I sleep for 16 hours and miss my interview.
I feel like a disgusting man child, which I am, living with my parents. Lines and lines underneath my tired eyes, and a permanent purple eye shadow from so many sleepless nights. A rough face which if I were to meet an employer in person would alone disqualify me at a glance.
I barely eat anymore it makes me feel better and in control to fast.
I feel worthless.
I know if I got a job I would be great if someone would just give me the chance. Every job I've had I perfect because I have an obsessive perfectionist mentality.
I've actually managed to land a job doing restoration work at a national park but idk if I will take it because it only pays $10/hr.
Which isn't really enough to realistically live on.

>> No.21632702

>>21631024
>how to learn from textbook?
Have a Sharpe and black out the mountains of redundant grammar. They're paid by the word. Redact the useless padding.

>>21631185
Can be symptomatic of other things as well (kidneys); do due nutritional diligence.

>>21632570
B1 deficiency can cause anxiety apropos of nothing. Eliminate things that sap it (cheap carbs, sugars, excessive caffeine)

>>21630583
>An eceleb board is created to contain all discussion related to influencers, YouTubers, tiktokers, streamer
Oh hell yea
7) Question begging OPs and jezebel pics insta-pruned

>> No.21632709

>>21632683
So start racking up small victories so those can compound. You want a job. I get that. But you’re also saying your sleep schedule is screwed up. So there’s one small thing you can do. Set your alarm. Wake up at the same time everyday. And immediately get some sunlight. That’s one small victory. Then you start going to bed at an appropriate hour. That’s two small victories. You understand? You can compound wins just like you compound losses.

What sort of job do you want anyway?

>> No.21632753

>>21632709
>What sort of job do you want anyway?
I really don't know. I've been applying to random different shit mostly accounting or administrative jobs.
Recently I applied online to a few different job postings for working on a fishing boat.
I've no social network so all I have to go on are job sites.
I feel very directionless at the moment. Like I need to make a really big change to my life because its currently a dumpster fire, but I don't know what to do anymore.
Life hasn't come easy, though it doesn't to most I guess.
I'm tired of working. I've worked non-stop the past four years in shit jobs with little to show for it all. I can work blue collar jobs but I don't really fit in well in those environments. I've never fit in anywhere.
The future is hopeless. Every option is shit and even if I get a job, it will take years of working and working to even save up enough to leave my parent's house and be independent.

>> No.21632843

Just squatted 295lbs for a PR. It's nothing special but I felt really good during the whole second half of my training block and I'm glad to see it pay off. Not sure how much of this is noob gains and how much is my programming working for me but we'll find out over the next block or two.

>> No.21632886

>>21631037
kek

>> No.21632904

>>21632449
I do get anxious about sleeping because I dread dreaming. Funny that once I'm under, I change my mind and I don't want to wake up.

I also hate sleep because it's a waste of time I could spend writing.

>> No.21632921

>>21632571
Worry at any other time in the day. Address your needs while awake and able to prepare.
Don’t go to sleep with heavy shit and loneliness on your mind. Work on that. And keep a regular sleep schedule.

>> No.21632942

Man, I don’t know what to do.

>> No.21632952

>>21632753
I think you have to stay hopeful, even if you sincerely feel hopeless. We don’t have any other choice. What does a good job sound like to you though? If you want a job where you don’t work non-stop and and you’re willing to do blue collar you have a lot of options. You can consider the merchant marines too. At the end of the day, a job is just a job. Maybe a change of scenery would do you some good.

>> No.21632965

>>21632942
Me either.
I mean, I do know what I want to do, but things have happened so that I feel I’m in limbo and I don’t want to do anything but cry.
I hope this passes after the funeral

>> No.21633013

>gets mad
>pretends to be calm
I'll try again later.

>> No.21633028
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21633028

I finished community college with an associates in English. All of my professors thought I'd transfer to a university and join them in academia but I've put off finishing my bachelors for a year now. I was involved in a lot of programs and clubs, and received a lot of encouragement from them to become a scholar/writer/editor or something.

Instead of transferring, I've bounced around living with different friends and taking on wagie jobs to pay for rent, food, gas, and books.

I just moved again and took a job as a line cook at a high volume breakfast joint. I'd never worked as a cook before but was given a raise a month into the job because I'm a quick learner.

For the past month and a half I've slept in a sleeping bag on my friend's living room floor (he doesn't have a couch). I live out of a single box that I stuff in the corner of the room. On my days off, I work out, bake bread, and read alone in coffee shops bc the apartment is cramped.

I've stopped drinking. When I smoke, I walk around at night for an hour or two and think about what the fuck I'm doing with my life.

Some days I think about visiting the only mosque in town and taking shahadah. On others, I look at flights to Aubagne and read up on the requirements to become a Legionnaire.

I get phone calls and texts from my ex using *67 or from an app that changes her phone number so she can harass me. I broke up with her a year ago. I was writing her a poem when I realized I didn't feel anything for her.

The last time I had sex, this other girl ( who I've known since hs) bit, scratched, choked, and spit in my mouth before i slipped inside, came immediately, and told her i dont understand why people like having sex. When I write about her, I'm either Orpheus or Actaeon, or a mix of both. Last I heard from her, she got a bf and had smoked meth a few times.

I'm not depressed, but im slowly becoming detached from the world. The only reason I work out so intensely anymore is to remind myself that I have a body.

asceticism and death are all that I think about anymore.

dont give up boys we're all gonna make it <3

>> No.21633116

>>21633028
Sounds like me after I graduated. I wasn’t conscious until I was 23 or 24.

>> No.21633119

Big regret working in uni admin

>> No.21633210
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21633210

I feel so lost and desperate.
I'm in my late twenties, and at this point, I feel like I've lost the train to my life.
My latest plan to escape poverty was to become an illustrator and make a decent living working for foreign magazines, but I don't think there is a future for it anymore due to AI. Sure, it cannot do what I can, but the future is nebulous enough that I can't picture the state of the technology even 5 years from now.
The only thing going for me is the fact that I got into Agronomy some years ago - during another episode of disillusionment with illustration - and I think people will need food no matter what happens, but yes, that requires soft skills that I absolutely lack, and entrepreneurial spirit/ the willingness to keep your head down and try your luck at the corporate ladder.
Sorry about the blog post, but I'm just feeling demotivated to the extreme.

>> No.21633236

>>21630556
I learnt my lesson. I shall never hold up stools even if it makes my hemorrhoids bleed again. I can't deal with the despair caused by constipation.

>> No.21633275

>>21630667
>Is Jerry Saltz based?
no

>> No.21633303

>>21632482
See?

>> No.21633310

I am a stew of regrets

>> No.21633378

>>21633210
I think you shouldn’t worry so much about what ifs. If you can make money illustrating now and that’s what you want to do, just do it. When the day comes when that’s no longer an option, you’ll figure it out. You can’t game plan your whole life.

>> No.21633379

>>21633116
im 25

>> No.21633383

>>21633379
You’re basically still a student though.

>> No.21633412

>>21633383
anon??? are ya trying to tell me the only path to higher consciousness is college ?

>> No.21633570

I don't understand if you will ever send me that letter. I doubt it. If you see this I know you still watch my stories, I know you still have some weird possessive curiosity. you couldn't ever call because you're so busy without a job or a family or anything and you also couldn't ever pay me back for the train ticket I bought you. Why would you tell me not to disappear then do that exact thing? A letter that took you a year to write surely must be worth it. Can't you just send it already? So I can be done and let you die to me?

>> No.21633654

>>21633570
Dear David.
Train whistle, train in lunar landscape of northern Mexico. Cut to private chamber, books spread out on a table. He is reading the books laboriously from a Spanish key.
At dawn death came to the hut, the youth tried to face him and hurl a magic object. He almost succeeded for death was old and tired.
-Regards, Stacy.

>> No.21633680

>>21630556
I think I might have an agoraphobia of some sorts

I'm in my 30s and always felt this some what during and straight out of hgihchool. But in my early/mid 20 gave into it fully. For the past decade only go to selected places and really particular about things.

I fill the petrol in my car up at the exact same station and pump since getting it and for some reason am too stuck and can't go to this nearby donut place my sister is hinting out she wants to try.

It's truly terrible. My last job was close to home so it kind of fed my patterns and worked around it but now I'm having a hard time finding a job since i am to afraid and paranoid go anywhere new.

It's destroyed all my friendships/relationships , I'm afraid to start new friends because of it. Even if a girl seems keen, I'm terrified to seeing her outside of the place I met her and my mind goes into overdrive that if I pursue her then it means I need to go places and so things with her so I let all these opportunities slip.

Weird thing is I don't particularly even feel depressed over it but I know it's not right and so what dibilitating.

>> No.21633693

>friend invites me to talk
>after some hours of talking about randome shit he starts talking shit about his rich friend and his bootlicker (who's also a friend of him)
>keeps hanging out with them everywhere and never invites me to anything again
I guess it was some kind of friend shit test
What a faggot

>> No.21633730

>>21630556
I'm conflicted about some things coming up. V wants to meet up this weekend, which I'm looking forward to, as she's sweet. V2 wants to meet up next weekend to fuck, and I'm concerned that she's developing feelings. O wants to meet up next weekend or the weekend after, and I feel a bit of trepidation about the proximity of meeting with her and meeting with V2.
V2 is always horny, and I want to fuck her, but I don't want to be in a relationship with her. V is really nice, but I'll have to see how things go to know if we're compatible. O is really forward and attractive, and maybe seems the most like "girlfriend material" to me right now, but I'll have to see.
I think because I grew up sheltered I feel some guilt about making arrangements to meet multiple women, but I'm not in any kind of explicitly monogamous relationship so I guess it's fine.

>> No.21633732

>>21633680
But why? What about other places scares you?

>> No.21633740

>>21633730
In 2022 I only spoke to 2 women who werent my coworkers or family.

>> No.21633752

Is one supposed to immediately start a second read of Infinite Jest after finishing the first? I will read it again but I feel like the longer I wait the more things will fade and I might miss answers to questions I have right now.

>> No.21633757

>>21630556
How hard is it realistically to learn how to code if you have no prior experience with it?
I'm considering doing the lhtc meme cause idk what I'm doing anymore, but I'm pretty quick learner. Like I'm pretty good with language learning and I've been told learning a programming language can be similar.

>> No.21633782

>>21633740
I know that feel. I spent most of my teenage/young adult years ignoring advances of girls who wanted to hang out for some weird reason.
I went to therapy and got treated for a mental illness, and I guess now I'm less nervous about talking to women. I think I'm basically a handsome autist. I always thought maybe I was good looking but somehow not desirable, but I've gotten maybe 100 matches on dating apps in the last month or so.

>> No.21633790

>>21633757
It's really not that hard. Codecademy and Khan Academy both have free programming lessons.

>> No.21633802

>>21633732
I don't know. Camera everywhere, social slip ups and ppl filming. Fear of lack of parking or non-ideal parking situations. Fear of bumping into people I know and seeing them out of the place I generally see them.

I'm absolutely ridiculous. Even when I go to a new place or a place I haven't been in a while I scope out the whole area with Google maps to see exits and how to navigate the place correctly.

I'm autistic when it comes to parking where I don't like to park forwards, then back out. If it's not a carpark where I can back I to a place id rather go home or not go to that place again.

I went to a local mall for the first time in 15 years some 6 or so months ago. Just to get some keys copied because the hardware store I went to didn't have the machine for this type of key. I felt so uncomfortable.

I havent gone to a concert, or out for dinner or a theatre show or anything like that tin around a decade. Ppl have tried dto reach out over the years but I always act like I'm not in the mood because it's so shameful to admit I'm scared to go out to these places now. Now ppl don't even bother trying which is relieving, but at the same time I know isn't good.

>> No.21633804

Did that anon buy his Roger Waters ticket?

>> No.21633817

>>21633802
Maybe you should do like exposure therapy or something, cant be fun to be anxious all the time. That stuff apparently works pretty well

>> No.21633837

>>21633817
How do I do exposure therapy?

I mean I'm forcing ymself to volunteer and get out there. Does that count.

It's crazy how much I regressed even though I was basically working retail for nearly 7 years before I was unemployed

>> No.21633856

>>21633782
What was the mental illness

>> No.21633882

>>21633837
Yeah I think that counts. They just do it in a more organized manner if you see a therapist. I'm not really big on therapy but exposure I have heard is one of the things that really can work.

I'm not one to talk anyway lol, although its not anxiety for me, I'm just a mess. Normies can tell im somewhat crazy just by looking at me, which is a bit disheartening but it doesnt bother me that much.

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>>21632570

>> No.21633921

>>21630556
Wife was a bit of a Stacy and bullied me severely throughout hs then out of the blue was kind to me after HS was over and we started dating. I love her and all but sometimes there are flashes of her old hs self when she's upset which makes me feel kind of uneasy to this day.

I literally never had a friend or any sort of relationship that wasnt my family outside of her and being in our 30s now, I'm not sure how I'm supposed to feel about this. I literally don't have any friends besides our siblings and their spouses

>> No.21633944

>>21633921
Are you reviving this old larp again

>> No.21633956

>>21630583
There should be a shilling general for our books

>> No.21633963

I have been drinking nonstop for the past 4 days. I think it would have ended after the first day if I hadn't made the mistake of texting people during the first day.

The things I text people when I'm drunk are so fucking cringeworthy. Ultimately inconsequential as 90% of it always is, my ego cannot abide by this overly dramatic, manic persona that overtakes me when I'm thoroughly shitfaced.

I hate myself when I'm drunk, and I hate myself when I'm sober. I wish I could get locked in cave for a week and just start over.

>> No.21634108

>>21633752
Now after reading from others about the book and the ending I feel like so much was completely wasted on me. So many dots I didn't connect and throughout reading I wasn't doing much to form theories or put anything together. I feel fucking retarded and I've noticed that over the years I've lost creativity and imagination that I once had. A couple years ago I realized I was mostly reading just to pass the time, to be outside of myself for a time, and I've tried since then to think more about what I read but I guess I haven't moved forward on that very well.

All of that comes in part due to being generally mentally unwell, and in part due to a lifetime feeling incredibly uncomfortable sharing my my thoughts and creativity with others. Letting myself waste away on the internet for years is probably another contributing factor.

>> No.21634145

I've read like 70 pages so far and i'm fine with it but i had a lot of time to read and could've done 100+. My goal was 120. I sort of feel like i failed.
Tomorrow won't have as much time. Won't be as comfortable. As today. Maybe i should spend the next 3-4 hours reading too like i did yesterday. I'm not sure if ill end this book in time (10 days)
I thought 100 pages per day was perfectly reasonable amount but i'm barely doing 80 or so.
I'm not even in the most challenging parts of the book.
I've been in this place before. I don't want to drop it and pick it up again after a week.

>> No.21634199

>>21633856
bipolar I with psychotic features

>> No.21634204

I don't enjoy reading American literature.

>> No.21634234

>>21634199
Huh thats interesting. Sometimes I suspect that I have some mild form of bi polar because I have mood swings from extreme self loathing and despair to unearned confidence and hope.

>> No.21634377
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21634377

How much will you donate over your lifetime?

For the average person, that number is between $2,500-$30,000[1]. You may personally be able to donate a lot more over your lifetime: assuming you donate $300 per paycheck, two paychecks per month for all twelve months of the year every year for sixty years, you will be able to give $432,000 in monetary contributions to charity over the course of your life. That's a lot of money, isn't it! But how much does it really help?
Roughly 1260 people are raped per day, or around one every 68 seconds.[2] The average cost of a rape, in numbers alone, is $122,461[3], and even more if we count the legal costs of the state prosecution (but let us ignore this). That means that you contribute, at least, the total cost of three rape victim's expenses (ignoring the unseen costs) to the good in the world, or 0.3% of the total monetary cost of rape per day, or again roughly 0.0007% of the cost per year in the USA alone.
That doesn't look like much, does it? But it is even worse than that. Every year, roughly 25,000 people are murdered, or 68 per day[4]. If we assume the average value of a human life is 6 million[5], that is 410 million dollars worth of human life lost per day, or 150 billion per year. Quite a lot, huh? Totalling the cost of rape and murder brings the contributions to charity over the course of your entire life to 0.000215% of the monetary costs of the evils of rape and murder every year in America alone. This is an incredibly optimistic number: I do not think a human life is worth merely its economic value, nor do I think the evil of rape is solely the cost of medical and mental health care afterwards. With these numbers now out of the way, it's time to address the elephant in the room: You cannot possibly hope to bring even a sliver of good into this world through charity alone. But what else can you do?
Yes, there are things that can be done, but none of them are legal.

[1] https://www.definefinancial.com/blog/charitable-giving-statistics/
[2] https://www.rainn.org/statistics/victims-sexual-violence
[3] https://www.nsvrc.org/blogs/cost-rape
[4] https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/fastats/homicide.htm
[5] https://www.theglobalist.com/the-cost-of-a-human-life-statistically-speaking/

>> No.21634430

>>21634377
This is retarded

>> No.21634434

>>21634204
What has put you off it? There are some amazing American writers. What do you think of Hemingway, for example?

>> No.21634456

>>21634430
NPC

>> No.21634474

>>21634430
I knew that just by the picture. Closed it on sight.
I will not respond to such posters or threads. Join me.

>> No.21634476

>>21634377
I made $15000 last year and I'm afraid to be around people please donate to me.

>> No.21634478

>>21634234
you might wanna get checked, see a psychiatrist, etc. i wasn't diagnosed until i was 28 having destructive manic episodes

>> No.21634499

>>21634476
Making one person's life very modestly better is not a good use of limited financial resources. If you drop your goycord I may be able to donate, but you would probably have to provide personal information and evidence of your situation.

>> No.21634502

I seldom enter this board, but, I am yet so see original literature. I think the english language is a literary prison, that holds down the text from being beautiful and non-reppetitive.

>> No.21634539

Well, my baby
She's like a little black star
She's just like her daddy
Way yonder far
Just like her daddy
Way yonder far
I'm gonna tell me Jesus
About my little black star
Gonna tell my Jesus
Just where she are
Gonna tell my Jesus
All about my star
Way down in the swamp
The mean old alligators fight
They fight all day
And they fight all night
They fight all day
And they fight all night
Well, my baby
She's like a little black star
She's just like her daddy
Way yonder far
Just like her daddy
Way yonder far

>> No.21634550
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I come from a well off family. When anyone asks what my parents do for work, I tell them they don’t. When they ask where their money came from, I say from me—even though their wealth is wreathed around the decisions they made in our country. But even with that special mix of servility and relaxation that comes tailored with our wealth, I always wonder what it would be like to disappear. Not from them, but from here.

>> No.21634577

>>21634550
The true test of what constitutes an excess of material wealth; If you are able to romanticise the realities of poverty. Poverty sucks lid, i’m missing like five teeth, it’s a tragedy up in there, like the bombing of Hiroshima, only it’s localised entirely in my mouth.

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I want to get into fishing but I'm self-conscious about carrying around a rod looking like a 23 year old boomer. I'm already kind of weird because I live in this city and refuse to wear sportswear or cut my dishevelled hair. Last time I left the house some obvious drug dealers laughed at my appearance. I really hate this city so much, it's full of the worst kind of scum. I'm actually pretty fit and I've posted my face before and people say I'm handsome so I don't know what it is but for some reason normalfags can tell from a mile away that I haven't spoken to a woman in years. I really hate being the centre of attention but I also don't want to give up wearing tweed trousers. Other times I just don't care but then it feels like the weight of my heart is going to crush me.

>> No.21634633

It's not really death or getting old I'm afraid of
What I'm really scared of is getting old without figuring out the problems that haunt me everyday

>> No.21634640

>>21631779
>Why even collect a few thousand then?
What do you mean? I want to make money on my work.

>> No.21634687

>>21634640
>I want to make money on my work.
But you won't earn much by self-publishing.

>> No.21634702

Quotation does not need marks of quotation
https://www.degruyter.com/document/doi/10.1515/ling-2021-0087/html

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21634746

My mind is rotten by the internet, I'm full of zoomer babble, I've condemned myself to hell by following my lusts and now i'm in a relationship which tho is making me happy i understand to be damaging my soul
i have no real world view and dunno where to begin as i feel that any option in the current age is just another thing being sold to me

>> No.21634811

I create because I am nothing without creation. Creation is the act of movement and change, it is the only form of action. Without the action of creation you are nothing. You are a tree that stopped receiving water. For no fruit can be bore outside of the collection of water

>> No.21634847

Any other sites more like old /lit/ than new /lit/?

>> No.21634864

>>21634847
No. Entropy. You're going to have to find something new and not something the same as before.

>> No.21634866

>>21634811
what about the non-accidental contingent, an exemplar of the creative act of action ?

>> No.21635031

>>21634746
You did this to yourself. Start by learning to type proper sentences with capitalisation, punctuation, and grammar.

>> No.21635156

>>21634864
Where is this something new? I see no such thing, only the entropy.

>> No.21635166

>>21634502
>original literature
This means nothing.

>> No.21635245

What if life is just some hard equation on a chalkboard in a science class for ghosts?

>> No.21635372

>>21630556
Was a sub to my first gf and really loved the dynamic and her acting like she owned me. Was really fun but I absolutely hate it when other girls try this domme shit on me.

Anyways been reconnecting with this first gf as friends and she found it so funny then she started acting bossy and domme towards me and it turns me on so much again. She literally got me to jack it looking into her eyes then when I came made me look at her mouth and came buckets with her talking rubbish to me then made me stare at the floor for a bit after lol.

Why am I like this and why doesn't it work with anyone else? And what do I need to do to actually fuck her again lol

>> No.21635381

>>21635245
Lol don't be silly, ghosts know math doesn't real.

>> No.21635401

I need to change my life for the better.

>> No.21635406

>>21635372
flip the script on her, go gigachad dom on her ass

>> No.21635418

anyone here watch Mike and Darren Unplugged ? I don't agree with all their opinions (Darren kinda shat on Rawls in ep 1 or 2 kek) but nonetheless Episode 5 was.. well.. particularly comfy. I think Micheal’s critique of the beats in ep 2 (?) was pretty spot on, It really articulated a similar impression I had with Pynchon recently and with Burroughs in the past, at times psychotropic, mystical but at others.. well like something that’s been left in the back of the refrigerator for 20 years too long, which reminds me I need to read bleeding edge, see how Pynchon’s recent work is, not that i’m keeping it in the back of my refrigerator or anything. Their taste in art is p terrible though, much like a eight year old who picks up an art history book for the first time and is asked to judge which is ‘da best’ they’re lovers of the high renaissance / dutch masters, probably much the same as many anons on /lit/ but velly infantile taste imo, what about all the talk of the geist and the expansion of consciousness.

>> No.21635572
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21635572

He is insane who dreams that he may learn
by mortal reasoning the boundless orbit
Three Persons in One Substance fill and turn.

>> No.21635578

>>21635166
You can't understand what is originality?

>> No.21635607

A locally famous religious figure from my country is a distant relative of mine. Everything I know about him makes me pretty sure that the guy is a glorified con-man, but a part of me still wants to meet him just to know him better and understand how he was able to get where he is. I wonder how he would react to some relative coming out of the blue and saying hi. Proving we are related is easy enough, so he wouldn’t think I’m a fraud - but would he be happy, indifferent or fearful upon having family he doesn’t know about try to get closer to him?

>> No.21635687

>>21635578
Explain "original literature".

>> No.21635710

>>21635687
Literature that is new you fucking idiot

>> No.21635717

>>21635710
Ok but can you define it? Do you have a source on it? What is "new"? Is there a peer reviewed study on it? Is the definition approved by any high ranking journal?

>> No.21635725

Barnett Agency (also known as Arsene Lupin intervenes) has had an english translation for ages, but after some googling and looking through ebook archives I realized the only way to get it is to buy a used copy from Amazon for $600+.
It's so weird, there are Lupin stories that have million editions, and then there are some that with time have become rare gems, despite the marketability of the character.
Oh well, back to studying french language.

>> No.21635734

I regret that my life has been so obscenely boring but I also don’t know what I could’ve done to make it not so. At one point, I wanted to move out West and work on ranches. I suppose I should’ve done that.

>> No.21635743

>>21635734
you can still do that

>> No.21635796

Do you guys also have issues downloading from libgen? The two links to download dont work for me.

>> No.21635836
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21635836

We all live in an Anglo man-made hell

>> No.21635839

>>21635743
What though? I really don’t see anything particularly adventurous worth doing. I could join the army and I’d get deployed but it’s also not a great time to join.

>> No.21635844

>>21635839
go out west and work on a ranch

>> No.21635852

>>21635844
Yeahhhh fuck that I'd rather have more goyslop and revel in sloth.

>> No.21635855

>>21635710
And how exactly does the English language prevent literature that is new from existing faggot?

>> No.21635888

>>21630556

1. You cannot escape being reborn.
2. Even if you can be reborn into a world without suffering, you will eventually be reborn back into a world with suffering.
3. Even if you are reborn into a world other than this one, you will eventually be reborn back into this world.
4. Even if you are reborn into a time other than this time, you will eventually be reborn into this time.
5. Even if you are reborn into a body other than this body, you will eventually be reborn into this body.
6. Even if you escape into the mind, you will eventually be forced back into the body.
7. Thus, only through the senses can the pain of the senses be escaped.
8. Suffering of the senses cannot be escaped, but delight of the senses can be sought.
9. Suffering of the mind cannot be escaped, but delight of the mind can be sought.
10. Any method or idea that aims at escaping some aspect of reality is therefore inconstant and can never work.
11. Thus, face reality at every moment, and do not construct delusions to find a way of changing or escaping.
12. Only through this can the universe be preserved. The purpose of all good and all evil is the preservation of existence. Everything must happen in order to avoid falling into contradiction that would destroy the universe.

>> No.21635922

>>21634502
English has a significantly higher range of expression and linguistic meaning density than almost all extant languages.

>> No.21635930

>>21635572
Is this about the three body problem?

>> No.21635975

Now that I sorta wanted to share things again, AI is all over the place and it's genuinely weird and scary.
>images
>text
>voice
Not only anybody will barely see anything you post right now because there's so much of it, but you will also contribute more fodder for robots. People are already more interested in what the AI is making than people's work. Certainly AI has merits but I don't want to contribute to it, I don't like it.
I genuinely don't want to post art or prose anymore and I'm glad I posted relatively little of it so far. I can't imagine how fucking salty I'd be if I had a huge gallery that AI is just stealing from.

>> No.21635979

>>21635975
What are we to do?

>> No.21635994

Looking for an apartment sucks right now because I need a place to stay but might have to move again in just 6 months anyway. I wonder if I should just keep staying with family.

>> No.21636001

>>21635844
I don’t think that really gets me anywhere at this point. I worked on a ranch around 2019, not out west. It’s a nice experience while you’re young, and would’ve been nicer out west, but it doesn’t get you anywhere when you’re older. When you’re older you want to own the ranch, not work on it.

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21636016

>>21630571
man that's such a neutral and simplistic yet vaguely utopian statement I was reminded of this James Ferraro album

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_1NaR4jr-8k

>> No.21636019

>>21635156
The has a of and than
Can English ever really flow?
From the fleet the muses ran
Where did they go?

>> No.21636049

>>21635979
I dunno, for the time being I think I'll stop posting and just shitpost. Maybe I'll learn to just lurk and not even shitpost at all. It wasn't just enough to get your output drowned by memes and porn, now you're below AI shit too. I should really learn to do what eveyone else does and just take things without giving anything back. I used to even send money to artists or whatever for the sake of "supporting" them, I've stopped doing that eventually. It's just not healthy anymore to put anything online unless you're focused on making a profit. People tell you you have "talent" or whatever but it's all cheap words.

>> No.21636057

>>21635975
>I genuinely don't want to post art or prose anymore and I'm glad I posted relatively little of it so far. I can't imagine how fucking salty I'd be if I had a huge gallery that AI is just stealing from.
Someone who thinks like this will never make anything interesting anyway.

>> No.21636168

>>21636057
Don't worry anon, I'll spare you how horribly sour my grapes are! You really don't even want to imagine how sour they are.

>> No.21636202

>>21635975
I want it to permeate everything because it’ll lead to more people opting out.
I was never into social media. A decade ago people treated me like a leper for not having a facebook or an instagram; nowadays it still draws some strange looks but others are more or less fine with it. That’s because sites like these became so insufferable that even those addicted can easily see why someone wouldn’t want to engage with it. At some point the whole internet will become like that and there will be only two groups left: the addicts and those who are free or use it conscientiously and only for specific means (downloading things, reading, researching, working, engaging with some hobby, etc…).
Also, people have a right to be forgotten. Do you think it’s fair that some zoomer will have to deal with the backlash of some stupid video he made on his teens decades latter? Or that a thot who sent nudes to some random guy one day will have the thing come back to haunt her after she has a family of her own? When ai forgery becomes sophisticated enough all digital media will be useless as evidence and these people will be free.

>> No.21636217

>>21636202
>Or that a thot who sent nudes to some random guy one day will have the thing come back to haunt her after she has a family of her own?
Honestly, yes.
This shit will in fact permeate everything but people won't opt out. Things will just get worse in a way we can't even imagine. Why would things ever get better? Things never get better.

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21636232

>>21636202
> Do you think it’s fair that some zoomer will have to deal with the backlash of some stupid video he made on his teens decades latter? Or that a thot who sent nudes to some random guy one day will have the thing come back to haunt her after she has a family of her own?

>> No.21636240

>>21636168
If a major reason why you create things is getting credit then you're not interested in creating, you're not seeking out beauty or truth or whatever, you're seeking social status.

>> No.21636396
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21636396

Who was in the right here?

>> No.21636457

got a floor length mirror recently & my ego has skyrocketed

>> No.21636491

>>21636396
Same-sex couples and homosexuality are strictly, unequivocally forbidden in Christianity. Moreover, sodomy is a sin that cries to heaven for vengeance, one of the worst possible. Christians in favor of same-sex relationships essentially say "they'd do it anyway and if God doesn't like it the blessing isn't real so no harm done", but this is in the same category as giving a holy blessing to a murder, incest, rape, whatever sin you can think of. Obviously, blessing same-sex couples is categorically absurd by ANY an ALL interpretations of the Christian texts, including all comkonly recognized apocrypha, so they really aren't Christian anymore.

>> No.21636522

>>21636491
>Same-sex couples and homosexuality are strictly, unequivocally forbidden in Christianity.
Once you go "sola scriptura" it all depends how you interpret the scripture.
>sodomy is a sin that cries to heaven for vengeance, one of the worst possible.
Homosexuals can marry and no do sodomy while heterosexuals can engage in sodomy as well
>. Obviously, blessing same-sex couples is categorically absurd by ANY an ALL interpretations of the Christian texts
I think interpretations can justify it.

But in any case, I do agree with you that homosexuality is bad but oh boy the worst will have it the pastors that are part of this. Imagine using the chuch to lead people astray. This is archheretical-level, the punishment will be horrible, more so than for sodomites who are animals that don't know any better.

>> No.21636524

Reminder that there is no evidence outside of tradition that Moses existed.

>> No.21636538

>>21636396
Nobody should attempt to impose regulation on private faggotry but structures made with gay foundations collapse. You can't integrate so much dysfunction into the structure of a working church that's trying to build sustained communities. It's not just gays that need to be kept out, anything inspired by or adjacent to Marx is even worse.

>> No.21636550

>>21636538
>Nobody should attempt to impose regulation on private faggotry
I mean this is about religion, you're speaking from a secular viewpoint which is hardly relevant to religious institutions.

>> No.21636598

>>21636550
>any time you think practically or reasonably you're copying us enlightened atheist types who invented thought and the planet earth
I hate this so much. It's an earthly institution and the only justification for it is to build on earth. We're not living on some separate "secular" earth.

>> No.21636604

>>21636598
What? Religion is literally to prepare you for life after death, not to build something on earth.

>> No.21636625

>>21636604
Retarded and explicitly opposed to the words of Christ but assuming that's the goal how do I prepare you for life after death without concerning myself with your earthly life or even gaining the influence to reach you in the first place?
An earthly institution has no influence on anything beyond earthly things.

>> No.21636652

>>21636625
>without concerning myself with your earthly life
Of course the church should concern with people's earthy life... that's why it should be concerned with "private faggotry". Its "justification" however extends beyond earthly things. I don't know what you're trying to say.

>> No.21636680

I will always forever be a "third worlder" at my core, and I couldn't be happier about it. I love my home, despite it being such a source of despair for a lot of folks. The anarchy leaves so many gaping holes in the system that you end up having more room to waltz around than it is the case in, say, Canada. It sounds jingoistic, but people really are more forgiving on a subconscious level back home, especially in regards to circumstances that are beyond a human being's control. You'd have to deal with banter, but overall there's this common understanding of fate and fortune that makes exchanges a lot simpler, without sacrificing any of the nuances that permeate life. With the right attitude, you could get away with anything.
Then again, I haven't lived under a caste system, which I'm thankful for. And things did seem to be getting worse the last time I checked. This new breed of constantly drugged up amoral kids from the projects has been causing greater turmoil than the previous civil war. Their damage is more insidious, more cunning. They're the best pawns a member of the elite could hope for. Unconscious agents of chaos. And these are the types of retards that end up illegally immigrating in massive droves, only to create more chaos wherever they're located. I might feel bad for them, considering the fact that it's the only way of life they've been taught to follow, but they're still sentient beings, they aren't absolved from the responsibility of their actions.
I hope that evil doesn't triumph. I want these precious alternatives to subsist.

>> No.21636695

>>21636652
>that's why it should be concerned
Then it becomes a matter of strategy on earth, of building a thing that influences people to approach God. Building an authoritarian regulator that imposes itself on all aspects of private lives doesn't accomplish this.
>Its "justification" however extends beyond earthly things
Any such attempt is dishonest, an attempt to transfer the authority of God to a fallible earthly institution. As soon as it presents itself as something more we can't build it using reason anymore. Any time the church does something productive you'll accuse it of taking a "secular viewpoint". It can no longer justify anything and everything is permissible including Marxist sodomite popes.

>> No.21636706

>>21636695
>Then it becomes a matter of strategy on earth, of building a thing that influences people to approach God. Building an authoritarian regulator that imposes itself on all aspects of private lives doesn't accomplish this.
I don't know what you're talking about. The Chuch shouldn't condone gay marriage. This has nothing to do with an authoritarian regulator.
>Any such attempt is dishonest, an attempt to transfer the authority of God to a fallible earthly institution.
The Church was created by God and is guided by the Holy Spirit. Like I said, you have a secular viewpoint, which is irrelevant to the religious view.

>> No.21636716

>>21636695
>>21636706
Maybe I'm interpreting your words too harshly. I believe you're just arguing that the church should act to straight people up without being authoritarian. I agree with that, but it baffles me why you also argue that the Church should not be concerned about "private faggotry" then.

>> No.21636726

>>21636524
Shut up and watch Ginger Snaps 2

>> No.21636732

It turned out that the grapes actually are sour.

>> No.21636755

>>21636016
good album but I prefer his LA themed album

>> No.21636813

Why do some people are much more prone to anxiety? Is it something mental or physical as in different brain?

>> No.21636832

>>21630556
It's hard to become jack of all trades.

>> No.21636836

peenus weenus ecole des beaux arts

>> No.21636841

>>21636716
>but it baffles me why you also argue that the Church should not be concerned about "private faggotry" then
Because that's the best strategy to reduce faggotry.

>> No.21636842

>>21636813
Physical makes you *more prone to anxiety* and environment/mental makes you *more anxious*. A little known biological factor is related to pregnancy stage, if your mother was stressed while having you, you will be more prone to anxiety too (preparing you for a volatile/dangerous climate)

>> No.21636857

>>21636049
Particularly sad state of affairs when you realise that the early internet was pioneered by hippies trying to get away from this very thing in the real world.

>> No.21636889

>>21636457
I got fit and got to a level of looking good that I always wanted and then stopped looking in mirrors or caring beyond making my hair, shaving, and showering. Haven't even seen myself shirtless in months or looked in a mirror longer than 30 seconds.

>> No.21636919

>>21636842
>if your mother was stressed while having you, you will be more prone to anxiety too (preparing you for a volatile/dangerous climate)
so I never had a chance after all.

>> No.21636974

Did that anon buy his Roger Waters ticket?

>> No.21637033

>>21636919
It evolved to increase your chance. In real situations you're more aware of dangers. If you're too introverted, not participating in something and focus too much on your own internal thoughts you will perceive dangers that are products of your mind. You can't avoid your mind like you can a predator but you can try to relax and reduce the looping thoughts that reinforce the anxiety by focusing on something external or automatic, like a flame or your breathing

>> No.21637067

>>21637033
>by focusing on something external or automatic, like a flame or your breathing
that doesnt help as the anxiety cannot be removed forever as in normal people. I have to accept that I'm too flawed.

>> No.21637238
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21637238

Any anon with experiences with melatonin? I've bought some and my goal is to take it during the day and staying awake. I want that drowsiness of when you've just woke up to endure during the day. It seems like heaven to be sedate and with not a care in the world.

>> No.21637261

>>21637238
you'll fuck up your sleep, because when you take melatonin a lot your body starts producing it less, leading you to need it to sleep

>> No.21637282

>>21637067
>that doesnt help as the anxiety cannot be removed forever as in normal people
Everyone has anxiety about things, it's considered a problem when it overwhelms you and stops you from doing things you want to do.
Focusing on the flame doesn't just work in the moment, it conditions the mind to be more relaxed and clear in general.

>> No.21637292

>>21637238
you sound retarded

>> No.21637297

i'm a lone wandering atomic pilled looksmaxxer who's now way older than most of the ones i looked up to when i first got into it around 2013

>> No.21637308

>>21637282
>it's considered a problem when it overwhelms you and stops you from doing things you want to do.
in my case it "evolved" into avoidant personality disorder. there's no cure only being slightly more manageable. that's why I've said that I had no chance. I didnt choose to be born this way.

>> No.21637323

>>21637308
Even if my advice doesn't work if there's a chance to improve through some method you've already dismissed it. This is not a productive way to cope.

>> No.21637330

Must suck to be gay and you can't have spontaneous sex without the risk of getting shit all over. And you have to clean yourselves of shit to prep for planned sex and you still may get shit on your dick. Disgusting.

>> No.21637340

>>21637323
I'm the anon who wants to take melatonin for that. What do you think? I don't want harder drugs, something simple and easy

>> No.21637341

>>21637323
Improve? Sure, maybe theres a way.
Cure? Sadly but no. Its not like a physical injury.

>> No.21637353

Looking for an apartment is such a pain in the ass. The fact that I need short term has made it so much harder.

>> No.21637382

banging hookers is so much easier and comfy than dealing with the cancer that is modern women and dating in this day and age

>> No.21637431

>>21637382
What do if I'm too scared to go to a whorehouse?

>> No.21637447

>>21630556
I am writing a book with a female main character, but I plan on her to eventually have sex. The problem: I have no idea what sex feels like for a girl. Any tips or resources? Most I get are things like medium articles which provide little in terms of actual substance.
inb4 "You don't know what sex for a man feels like either"

>> No.21637822

dumb question
if you chopped down an infinitely tall tree it would never finish falling, right?

>> No.21637855

>>21637822
depends if you have infinitely tall mountains and trees around it or not, and how would it grow infinitely tall if it didn't have an infinitely tall+1 atmosphere and infinitely deep Earth+1 to draw air from and burrow roots in ?

>> No.21637856

dreaming of fictional worlds and writing for art's sake is procrastination festered.

>> No.21637863

Countless things I need to do, and countless people I need to address. Why did I have to be a college student and not a fucking wagie?

>> No.21637875

>>21637856
No, you're thinking of posting on boards.4channel.org/lit/

>> No.21637941

>>21637822
I mean, the base of the tree is still close to the ground, right? Lets say you make the cut at 5 fett from the ground. It only needs to fall five feet. No?

>> No.21637946

>>21637447
The solution is simple. Go on grindr and be a bottom. The ass hole is the universal vagina.

>> No.21637956

>>21637447
Read fifty shades of grey and other female oriented erotica. It’s not actually how sex is for them, but it’s how they wish it was.

>> No.21638077

I hate numbers.

>> No.21638169

>>21637238
Poor idea. You'll end up dependent on it if you misuse it like that. As for my experiences, I don't use it often but when I do I take it an hour or two before sleep because it takes a while to take effect

>> No.21638176

When I finish a book I don't want to start a new one because I don't want to sever my emotional connection to the first book or forget the characters.

>> No.21638197

>>21634377
Charities seem to largely be scams or elaborate tax writeoff schemes for parent companies.
I choose to donate to independent animators, artists, and game devs who I like the work of. Their usually more obscure, so at least that way I know my contributions help produce something of value.

>> No.21638221

It wasn't Athens where philosophy began but Ionia, but we refer to "Athens" when speaking of Greek philosophy.

>> No.21638241
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21638241

I draw and I write, but I know I well never be great. Those that are the best at these and other crafts are the best because they must create, not because they choose to. I can only choose, and as much as I like the idea of creating, I am entirely at home with remaining static and doing nothing instead.
I don't want it badly enough, but it injures me all the same.

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21638274

This is not a sentence that is spoken in the mind.

>> No.21638352

>>21630556
---- Solaria ----
778
(synesthetic systems)

Here where personality hives in a building
Almost horizontal as a the grid

A proper clock dial of the seasons would have
Six as the boundary between Jan-Feb,

The heights of twelve where July relaxes into
August gliding where one is least reminded via sense

Of the time of year or day, no cold except
For the most artificial kind, lapis lazuli popsicles

Of tone strange, impossible for the setting, a wall of sky
Saints stroll into for relief from the heat

As if to participate in the condition of life gods
Are used to, as Lucretius imagined them.

Naturally it's a stitch to imagine him
In my heated passenger seat, with a view

To appalling scenery just on the other side
Of tempered glass, mistakes in reasoning about

Everything from states to the motive for play to choice mechanics,
What makes one man amiable or suite, another

Unable to convey impressions of the day,
Or any change, however slight

He would like to make to it.
Or how it's best to go about it, by

Both illusion of the impossible and the possible alike,
Encyclopedic instinct, the artist's ridiculous charisma or willingness

To display everything, to the point of seeming disappearance,
To register conditions, memories, unconcerned

As a ghost of greenest field, assimilating apples of the sun's inmost eye,
The process of planetary unwinding, watching itself

The way all possible intelligence does, master of inflection to the end.

>> No.21638366

Boutta go work the graveyard shift again tonight.

>> No.21638376

Can one be a Christian and still deny access to blacks to your social and private life and living space, preferably from the church also? What are some books that justify that?

>> No.21638395

Pragmatism is the principle that every theoretical judgment expressible in a sentence in the indicative mood is a confused form of thought whose only meaning, if it has any, lies in its tendency to enforce a corresponding practical maxim expressible as a conditional sentence having its apodosis in the imperative mood.

>> No.21638484

ik just how it feels
i never leave
ill fly away

>> No.21638493
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21638493

My dad is being really mean and nasty for no reason. He just yelled and swore at me over literally nothing. I don't know what his problem is sometimes.

>> No.21638507

when im with you
green castles

>> No.21638525

>>21638493
Check his socks. They might contain small pebbles.

>> No.21638532

>>21638493
>>21638525
i shall walk westward to the Pacific sun with rocks in my shoes
t. anons dad

>> No.21638559

>>21638525
No I don't think so. He is like this a lot. He gets in these weird moods sometimes and there is literally no reasoning with him.

>> No.21638563

>>21638493
Does this otter represent your emotional state anon

>> No.21638566

>>21638559
that rly sucks im sry anon

>> No.21638625

>>21638493
My dad never yelled at me unless I was being an bridge troll cunt, a stinking sloven, or reckless to the point of almost burning the house down. By most standards he was a better man than I'll ever be, and so I'm still fond of him in memory. I have better taste than he did in gardening, music, architecture, and even industrial design than he ever did, but I always respected his moral or strategic considerateness: He was offered a job that would have put him in one of the executive offices of Frank Loyd Wright's Johnson Wax Building, but he turned it down because he didn't want to live or work anywhere near Racine. That's rather a lot of wit for a dad.

>> No.21638672

>>21636240
But I never said that I want to stop making things, just that I want to stop sharing them. Where did you get that? Are you sure you're not projecting your ideas on me, that somehow one is supposed to create in order to share shit on the internet?
I still work on my art, I still write, I still do everything. I just won't post it online, whereas before I'd just share my things freely for the sake of sharing them.
The reason for making art is that I make it for myself, but when it comes to sharing it, yes, I shared it to get something out of it, even something as petty as asspats and praise, although this isn't really the reason. I wanted to commune with people and this just isn't possible anymore. I don't care what you or anybody else thinks about this, if you think this is "attention-seeking" behavior, I won't share my work to get a negative return out of it when I can keep it to myself and feel better about it.
And if you hate attention seekers then I really hope you're not looking at anything that's in the public eye because in order to become visible you have to be one hell of an attention whore, which is another reason why I couldn't get myself to play the whole pseudo-marketer game everyone is in. Some random clown on YouTube sticking books up his ass would be more visible than anyone actually trying, so I really hope you're quitting the internet soon. You must really hate this environment. Meanwhile enjoy your AI garbage.

>> No.21638692

>>21636857
And yes I came to the internet in the 90s to escape the suburban hell I was in. Looking back it wasn't anywhere near perfect but at least it was an escape. Now there's no difference between the internet and some kind of parody of an American high school. And people haven't become any better in the flesh to compensate. It acted like a gigantic black hole that sucked everyone in.

>> No.21638714

>>21630556
i keep seeing people saying that Matthew 19:12 isn't meant to be taken literally and that it's not ok to castrate yourself but nobody's actually given me a reason WHY. as far as i can tell there's nothing in the text to indicate that it's meant to be strictly metaphorical. if removing my nads will help me keep my unnatural sexual proclivities in check why shouldn't i do it?

>> No.21638720

>>21633956
I would like this just to see what's there and who I'm actually surrounded by

>> No.21638727

>>21638672
Not the guy you're replying to, but this is a little salty, to say the least: The least of aesthetic peacocks is a whole lot sweeter.

>> No.21638749

>>21638714
Consider the possibility that both Nature and God are kinder than you can imagine, and that neither wish harm to your vitality and pleasure.

>> No.21638760

>>21638692
I often reflect on this and feel like it’s one of the saddest things I’ve witnessed during my life, people literally ruined one of the greatest inventions of mankind’s history, the next step is that the internet just becomes a shopping and advertising portal controlled by tptb

>> No.21638778

>>21638749
really only interested in discussing this within a Christian theological context. that's the framework i'm operating within and that's not changing

>> No.21638794

>>21636680
Humans subconsciously value freedom more than almost anything else. Living in an overly-regimented society really takes a toll on your soul

>> No.21638796

>>21638727
Of course I'm salty. Why does being angry about something I care about going to shit some kind of flaw of character? Yes I'm pissed off. I enjoyed sharing things and now I'll have to quit because I regret it every time I do and on top of all this I'm basically just feeding AI to help it in its takeover. At least before I was just competing for attention with attention whores, but there was no harm in putting things somewhere. Now I'm actually contributing to the internet going to shit.
And this place that used to be somewhere you could just exchange things and ideas with real people has become just a gigantic platform for corporate fucks and it made me bitter and depressed beacuse there's no other internet to go to. And the real world's still filled with the same people that clogged this place up.
>>21638760
Internet will finally become another TV but it will be interactive. It's felt like this since the 2010s but it wasn't proper yet. With AI taking over you'll just have a whole fake world to interact with. Fake articles, fake images, fake people, fake conversations. This place's already filled with bots.

>> No.21638819

>>21638778
That's impressive rhetorically, but in practice no one except suicidal schizos talk or behave accordingly.

>> No.21638857

>>21630556
>Been cheating on my wife
>She found out and confronted me about it
>Said she's ok with it just as long as I don't run off with one of these other women and no one in our lives find out
>Feel extremely guilty over it
>Been over a year and have never cheated again
>Still feel extreme guilt over it

How do I make it up to her? Do you think she still loves me or is she fake loving me now?

>> No.21638874

>>21637431
destroy your fears but going together with a friend or a buddy that you really trust. If you don't have one drink a bit beforehand and go there yourself, there's nothing scary about it at all.

>> No.21638882
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21638882

I just remembered this one time at my old job. I was working and my boss, who I liked because he was a really nice guy, he walks in and he says "What's up anon" and I didn't say anything because I couldn't think of the right thing to say. I thought about saying "How's it going" but I thought no, I say that one way too much, and so I tried to think of something else but I couldn't think of anything, and by that time too much time had passed in silence and so I said nothing and continued working.
Looking back on it, it must have seemed like I was being a jerk because I just ignored someone who was saying hi to me. I didn't mean to be rude. That wasn't my intention.
Have you ever done something like this? Is this normal?

>> No.21638890

>>21638857
Man, not to make you feel worse but unless you're stuck in a dead marriage and your wife is already cheating on you herself, I cannot even fathom how someone would cheat. I couldn't cheat even when things were pratically over and not cheating was just a formality. I'd probably take the crippling guilt for life, anon. It's the only thing that feels right.
She told you she's OK with you actually continuing to cheat on her as long as it's a side thing? I dunno man. Never been in this kind of dynamic but the whole argument sounds like she just wants to save face.
You know that posting this sort of thing online will expose you to psychopaths like me who'll give you all sorts of demoralizing scenarios because they've been horribly wounded be women before?

>> No.21638893

>>21637431
Don't do it, anon. I won't bring up morality, it's just bad for you. It's like doing drugs.

>> No.21638914

What do you do when you’ve done something unforgivably wrong and deceived someone you love and there’s no conceivable way for you to make amends that won’t worsen the situation?

>> No.21638930

>>21636240

>If a major reason why you create things is getting credit then you're not interested in creating, you're not seeking out beauty or truth or whatever, you're seeking social status.

It’s exceptionally hard to define beauty, truth and so on, let alone understand if such definitions are true by consensus or in virtue of themselves, but the former case seem’s often to be why we find people seeking the affirmation of others, and in many respects why we need the affirmation of others in order to collectively ascertain an object of experience and individually imbibe and collectively imbue it’s substantial valance, in fact, I think there’s also an argument to be made concerning a false dichotomy here, as one could argue that for many the affirmation and consensus of others is the highest truth and the highest beauty, or exemplary of such.

Also, your point is moot inasmuch as all things are produced, conceptualised, created etc either personally or collaboratively, in the case of the former, if we claim all things are produced personally, we have no claim to the primacy of interpersonal prescriptive agency, and as such cannot make interpersonal assertions such as: >If a major reason why you create things is getting credit then you're not interested in creating

and in the case of the latter, if we claim all things are created collaboratively, we then have no claim to the primacy of personal prescriptive agency, and cannot make definitive personal conclusions such as:

>you're seeking social status.

so either keep the assertion and abandon the conclusion, or keep the conclusion but abandon the assertion.

>>21638672
it does come across as kinda salty

>> No.21638932

>>21638796
/lit/ is not that bad, my friend. I agree that 4chud generally is far too much a wasteland of institutional bots and (predominantly Putin) troll brigades, and that Hiroshima Nagasaki deserves the guillotine for his colossal cynicism in that respect. But, as for corporate fucks, look up what DRAX is doing to the forests of British Columbia, which is the absolute worst. Shit like that pisses me off.

>> No.21638955

>>21638932
*Also, I smile at the thought of the good people of Frontline raping everyone responsible for the absolute state of this shithole.

>> No.21638958

>>21638221
Persians called Greeks Yaunas as in Ionians. Indians called them Yona and Yavana. Hebrews and Turks called them Yevanim.
In Norse mythology some gods are Vanir and others are Ásar. Vanir is a transliteration of Ionian. Norse speakers using eastern words tend to take the front off, so Yavan became Van, the -ir suffix is common like Dan-ir. Ásar come from Asia as in Turkey / Scythians.
Iceland was founded by the brothers Herjólfur and Ingólfur, Heruli generals. Herjólfur/Heruli are both versions of a word meaning "wolves of war", the hounds of Hermes / Óðinn.

Heruli are said to have come from around Denmark around 200AD, moved to the Black sea, to "Vanaósar" or "estuaries of the Ionians", eventually founding a kingdom there through fighting for Atilla the Hun. Around 500AD the kingdom fell and a portion of them returned back to Denmark. The name Atli/Atilla is still common in Iceland but not the other Nordic countries.

>> No.21638973

>>21638932
>>21638796
compared to the rest of the internet /lit/ isn't that bad, but the situation is dire when there is literally like two or three boards left on the whole internet that aren't absolutely terrible, the only reason 4chan hasn't been subsumed by the system is because it’s literally unmarketable, nobody wants to fucking touch it or be seen near it, but even then there are now celebs saying ‘based’ and ‘kino’ or whatever, brands will soon be targeting pepe posting spergs, talking of which where’s that ever recurring thread about the best e-reader i really really need ? I mean i didnt know i needed one until i saw that thread and all the organic discussion that happens over and over every week..

also funny coincidence but i am also this >>21638930 and this>>21638760
anon, i notice i’m replying a lot to another singular anon.

>> No.21639007

>>21638857
You hurt her so bad that she lied to you and herself to conceal the pain ripping open her soul because the only thing that could happen if she allowed herself to feel it would be the destruction of your shared lives.

>> No.21639019

>>21630556
---- Solaria ----
779
(X)
Jovian clouds, luxury apartments, cars, regional malls,
The ultimate in bourgeois Christmases,
Cecropia caterpillars

And sleepy lowland parks in boy eyes.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lUUBA3mT4IQ

>> No.21639037

>>21638930
Being copied affirms the value of your work more than credit, praise or money.

>> No.21639045

>>21639037
Being imitated, yeah. Having your work stolen or used for whatever the fuck anyone wants, not really. It's pretty fucking annoying. But you wouldn't know because you've never made a thing.

>> No.21639056

>>21637822
Every point of a parallel line in rotational collapse hits the ground at the same time. The "tip" of the infinite tree would too, but it would have to be infinitely fast. It's a paradox kind of like the immovable mass vs unstoppable force.

>> No.21639058

>>21638973
>the only reason 4chan hasn't been subsumed by the system is because it’s literally unmarketable,

Agreed, except when it comes to instrumental music. As a source for that, YT is one of the accidental wonder of the world. But then, hardly anyone but the best of us notices.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2wHlvJKJ3pw

>> No.21639081

>>21638973
>compared to the rest of the internet /lit/ isn't that bad
It's not bad, but not nearly as good as it should be. Every time I read a book, and then hop onto /lit/ afterward, I'm really disappointed by how it feels impossible to discuss what I read because no one else has read it, and even if I -do- try to sell people on it, no one really cares.

There should be a high-effort version of /lit/, maybe an alt-chan dedicated to the classics and philosophy discussion. Obviously people wanna talk about this stuff, but /lit/ discussions don't usually go anywhere, threads die too quickly. Anyway, if there's enough interest I could help make a chan. Dunno how to bring in traffic though

>> No.21639084

>>21639058
Don't know how anyone can enjoy this shrill grating noise.

>> No.21639089

>>21638857
Shouldn't have cheated if you're a guiltcuck. Can't do the time don't do the crime and all that.

>> No.21639115

I'm getting married tomorrow err today, now. Have a zoom meeting with my new job just before. I'm pretty tired but I feel like staying up for a few hours and... just not having to wake up to it all. Our families came into town and met tonight. Her family despises me but played nice, though refused to let my father pay for dinner and had the check split, I think so her mom wouldn't have to say thank you to him since they spoke once before and all indication is it wasn't pleasant. And I don't want this new job as I've been self-employed for years but my fiancée err wife was laid-off a few days ago so I have to subject myself to having a master again so we can live in certainty until she's hired on somewhere.
I'm blessed, I know, but I'm stressed and peeved and melancholic, as well. I'm middle-aged and my much younger bride doesn't understand yet what my age, perspective, and the clock running out are doing to me so talking to her about it only gets me so far, but she's a wonderful girl and I'm very fortunate to have her love and support. I'm gonna eat a bunch of yogurt and then get to not thinking about of this.
Thanks for reading, LiveJournal crew. Much love.

>> No.21639142

>>21639045
The original post was about the horror of Ai creating derivative art. Not even something that really happened, he was just seething about the imagined hypothetical where his art was being widely appreciated in a derivative form.
>It's pretty fucking annoying
I know the feeling but I also know it's the ego sperging, it's not reasonable. If I'm copied, even poorly the goal of adding to the world was accomplished.

>> No.21639145

>>21630556
How to cope with being a midwit?
I'm the kind of midwit who can absorb a lot of information, and regurgitate it back or synthesize, while never really creating anything of my own. I've read a decent amount of literature, philosophy, and history, but I can't claim to have mastery over any one of these subjects.
A novelist might have less knowledge than me, but at least such a person has created something real, tangible, and new, even if a writer borrow from other authors.
Or a physicist who masters in depth the dynamics of reality. (Though I recognize being a pyshcicist probably involves a lot of not fun busy work, at least this person can claim to understand deeply certain aspects of reality in a way most never will).
I have nothing like this to offer. I can't claim to be immensely intelligent, to have mastered in depth any intellectual endeavor, nor have I created something creative like a novelist or artist.
I feel forever doomed to be a coping mediocre dilettante.
The only consolation I feel is that occasionally my crippling inferiority complex recedes, and I have a moment of sudden inspiration, like a bolt of electricity passing through my mind, when ideas seem to take on a living reality in my head, a reality with no connection to these paltry egotistical concerns. Then I feel as though I've achieved some deep, almost spiritual insight.
Then the moment passes, I view these former concerns with detachment, and I am once again only a person, the same as everyone else. I will eat, I will shit, I will die..

>> No.21639180

>>21639084
I enjoy a lot of things.

---- Solaria ----
780
(Lush Tunnel)

Nothing around me but sunny swamp stretches for square miles
This road cuts over, spectacle serene at any speed,
Relaxed as I am at 95, rare with agility

As M11 in a backyard telescope,
Drift of time machines, jets.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zbSw0ZOe4mM

>> No.21639184

>>21639145
Idk maybe I'll ascend to ultimate pseudom and do media criticism.
Seems like that's what every mediocre, middling pseud does these days.
If you can't create anything of lasting value, just criticize what others have made.

>> No.21639186

>>21639145
Absorbing a bunch of information is unnecessary
Just find the problems in life that really concern you and attack them
"Midwit" or not, it doesn't matter.

>> No.21639187

I should’ve done things differently

>> No.21639193

>>21639187
What things?

>> No.21639197

>>21639193
Right now I’m regretful of my work and career choices.

>> No.21639198

>>21639186
>Absorbing a bunch of information is unnecessary
Well yeah, I don't read out of necessity, I read topics that interest me because they interest me.
>"Midwit" or not, it doesn't matter.
Okay but it does matter to me. Don't you have any desire to create something you can be proud of?
Being just mediocre or ok is not good enough.

>> No.21639214

>>21639198
Perhaps this is an unusual view, but I believe a normal, smart guy can "force" great intellectual discoveries with enough effort. It doesn't take a genius -- just persistence, and understanding when you don't actually know something.

The problem with most people when it comes to truth-seeking is they get their leg caught in the first decent sounding idea they stumble into. Normies read the Communist Manifesto or Mein Kampf once and go, "Oh wow Marx/Hitler was totally right, let's kill the bourgeoisie/gas the jews". Most "intellectuals" are stuck in this stage too, their books are merely post-hoc justification of their faith.

If you wanna be a great intellectual, it's really simple. Just don't fall for traps. Be a skeptic. Be more Socrates and less Plato. If you have the power to contemplate ideas without immediately accepting or rejecting them, you're already halfway there.

>> No.21639240

>>21639058
>>21639058
youtube is p awesome but they’re doing the whole thing of taking a mile an inch at time, at first it was just this weird video platform where people couldn't even comprehend what it meant to share a video, are you copying it ? stealing it ? am i socialising ? then they introduced advertising, then you started seeing youtube being part sponsors for industry roundtables, and it just so happened youtube ‘stars’ started appearing at said roundtables promoting youtube as a viable creative platform, now youtube, by setting a false precedence, has created an economic moral hazard in that thousands of young creatives are now told to just upload their work to youtube, the intention is morally sound, to remove this sort of need for an elite class of platform controllers that can pick and choose who gets to ‘win the game’ but the result is that nothing is filtered through any sort of real regulatory system, it’s a deluge, and now every artist is in charge of promoting themselves while having no access to the vast industry connections, capital and infrastructure that constitutes ‘the industry’ per se, it’s like sending one soldier off to fight the entire roman army kek, but what more, ((they)) knew it would be like this, society has been their pet project for 2000 years, they have perfected the art of controlling people. Anyway since you shared a tune, here is a personal favourite of mine: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PPJu5uTFiNA

>> No.21639342

>>21639240
If it werent fir this style of content sharing, I would never have found Negative XP, and therefore never would have watched Scott Pilgrim Vs The World which turned out to be really kino.

>> No.21639348

At last I finally understand that all of my personal, emotional, and psychological problems come from a lifetime of social isolation. Cant believe I didnt realize this before.

>> No.21639394

New thread:

>>21639393
>>21639393

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>>21639145
Believe it or not but the fact that you were able to write this post is a testament to your ability to create something meaningful. I know because I used to be in your exact position; the difference between an intelligent midwit and a 'creator' like you describe is forcing yourself and taking that leap to just do it.
>>21639198
>Being just mediocre or ok is not good enough.
You have to be mediocre before you can be good. And you have to stop being a coward before you can let yourself be mediocre. Also what this anon says is absolutely correct >>21639214. You need to be able to spend years, decades even, in that suspended state of "not knowing" and mediocrity. That's the price to pay for the difference between actually knowing and being full of shit.

>> No.21639708

>>21638493
Financial stresses maybe? Does he own stocks?

>> No.21639711

>>21638857
Tell her about how you feel, not us!