/lit/ - Literature

[Anonymous No.21681580]

Examples of censored text in the new editions of Roald Dahl books

[Anonymous No.21681584]

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[Anonymous No.21681590]

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[Anonymous No.21681598]

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[Anonymous No.21681603]

>>21681598

[Anonymous No.21681608]

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[Anonymous No.21681612]

>>21681598
They added a dedication? That's pretty fucked up.

[Anonymous No.21681660]

>>21681608
I want to destroy these fat useless cunts.

[Anonymous No.21681692]

>>21681580
>"we may have laundered your tax dollars to give your son sexual reassignment surgery and falsified six million years of human history, but at least we weren't racist"

[Anonymous No.21681696]

None of you were going to buy Roald Dahl books. Karen soccer moms are going to buy them for their fat mulatto grandkids. Publishing companies don't give a shit about your twitter freakouts.

[Anonymous No.21681698]

>>21681696
fuck off demotivator. this is a declaration of war. we're not just going to lie down over this.

[Anonymous No.21681701]

>>21681580
Leftists are blaming this on capitalism in one breath and then defending these "capitalist" changes with another.

[Anonymous No.21681707]

>>21681696
>Karen soccer moms are going to buy them for their fat mulatto grandkids
bold of you, /gif/ tourist, to assume that those "people" can read.

[Anonymous No.21681714]

Disgusting women and jews

[Anonymous No.21681723]

>>21681696
Karen soccer moms aren't going to buy Dahl's books either. They're too busy buying their kids Gay Baby, I Have Two Daddies, and How to Give Head to Adult Men children books.

[Anonymous No.21681724]

>>21681701
Can't expect consumerists to be consistent.

[Anonymous No.21681727]

>>21681696
This is a bait post but this poster is right. If you don't buy it, you have no power.
I go on /tg/ and sometimes I argue with people who are enraged that D&D has become extremely woke and is putting tranny niggers everywhere. I asked them if they bought the books, they say no and they call me a bootlicker just because I asked. People on /tg/ pirate everything. Nobody I ever met who played these games had bought the actual books in print. So why would the company give a shit about you? The end target to which this is aimed is upper class people (who the fuck can afford kids?) and upper class people who care about their kids reading books will be woke. Upper class people who aren't woke are a minority and they probably don't care that their kids read books, because reading has long become a leftist thing. People in lower classes who have kids will have them glued to a tablet and this will fry their brains so hard that they won't be able to read. The low-income families' kids I see have no interest in reading. Nobody on this board gave a fucking fuck about Dahl until that scandal about antisemitism happened and now this. Sure you might "care" but not to the point of sacrificing meals to buy the books. It's all in the hands of the rich.

[Anonymous No.21681744]

>>21681727
cute [headcanon] but Dahl gets talked about here more often than most authors
you would know that if you weren't a tourist

[Anonymous No.21681745]

>>21681727
>>21681696
Not everyone is a libertarian you low IQ mongrels

[Anonymous No.21681748]

>>21681701
Capitalism doesn't real.
See >>>/his/14651613

[Anonymous No.21681749]

>>21681612
Pretty sure the dedication was originally there. Wonder how much the 2001 editions have already been changed.

[Anonymous No.21681753]

>>21681748
Capitalism exists and your thread and your quotes are retarded.

[Anonymous No.21681754]

>>21681727
>and upper class people who care about their kids reading books will be woke.
this is a total red herring and only brainless dolts keep parroting it. nobody ever voted on media being turned into trash you fucking retards. this is disgusting pinkhaired tumblrites who took it upon themselves to ruin shit while being backed by lobbying groups. the consumer has nothing to do with it.
braindead mother fucker you just took a giant paragraph to restate the same tired meme. peak midwit

[Anonymous No.21681755]

test

[Anonymous No.21681756]

>>21681753
>Capitalism exists
In Meinong's Jungle maybe

[Anonymous No.21681768]

>>21681756
No one aside from the mentally ill think capitalism is a bad thing. It exists and it's good.

[Anonymous No.21681941]

>>21681660
>I want to destroy these fat useless cunts.
*I want to defeat these useless people

[Anonymous No.21682025]

>>21681941
*I want some time for myself to learn to be kinder

[Anonymous No.21682042]

>>21681768
>capitalism
>exists
Lol

[Anonymous No.21682062]

>>21681580
Does the European 'moral rights' aspect of copyright protection have no application? Can the estate simple waive that? Or does the scope of 'moral rights' protection not apply in this context?

[Anonymous No.21682069]

>>21681598
>Owch
>Ugh
Lol what

[Anonymous No.21682074]

What's the deal with "Pondicherry"? Why is that offensive and "Puducherry" is not?

[Anonymous No.21682082]

>>21681608
>bedouin tribesman
>local person
hah

[Anonymous No.21682124]

>>21681580
What is the official response from penguin books?

[Anonymous No.21682168]

>>21681941
>>21682025
*I'm thinking of ending things

[Anonymous No.21682190]

>>21681580

I think it's a good idea.

Adults can put a book in the context of its era, but a kid can't. These books are for kids.

[Anonymous No.21682195]

>>21682082
Holy kek at least that's accurate for bongistan

[Anonymous No.21682203]

>>21682190
Nigga do you seriously think kids will get traumatized by the word "fat"

[Anonymous No.21682348]

>>21681941
fucking kek

[Anonymous No.21682359]

>>21681754
>nobody ever voted on media being turned into trash you fucking retards.
There's one true fucking thing the left says: inaction is a statement. If you see everything getting pozzed and you just go
>b-but w-what am I supposed to do, uhhh.. I-I don't w-wanna go against t-the grain
You are in fact agreeing to your kids getting pozzed. You are voting with inaction, which is actually the only way to get normalniggers to vote. You stick your dick in their ass, if they holler "NO" you stick something smaller in first.

[Anonymous No.21682446]

If they ever get hold of Lovecraft and rename his cat I'm going to seethe.

[Anonymous No.21682451]

>>21681608
this isn't really 'woke' or whatever, it's just making it more bland, reminds me of when they changed the name of the Harry Potter book for Americans

[Anonymous No.21682459]

>>21682446
You mean his cat black gentleman of colour?

[Anonymous No.21682475]

>>21682451
It is woke. Take for instance the fact that they remove any mentions of someone being "fat" or just replace it with euphemisms. They also remove things like "attractive woman" or mentions to someone being ugly. And just take a look at the replacement for the wigs phrase some posts up. In the new version you can literally smell the stereotypical SJW vice-tier writer behind that text.

[Anonymous No.21682477]

>>21682459
No, no. It was a pure white cat name Mayoman, remember?

[Anonymous No.21682571]

You reactionaries need to grow up. This is the best way of making sure that these stories are read by future generations. Nobody is going to read a children's book with bigoted and backwards worldviews, this ensures that they'll actually be read in the future.

[Anonymous No.21682608]

>>21682571
I'd rather people stop reading books altogether than read PC-ified literature

[Anonymous No.21682619]

The person who defaced these books probably thinks of themselves as a "creative" too.

[Anonymous No.21682645]

[Anonymous No.21682947]

>>21682571
Honest question: do you realize how absolutely huge of a faggot you sound like?

[Anonymous No.21682960]

>>21682947
fairly sure it's bait my primitive dark continent dwelling savage.

[Anonymous No.21683009]

>>21682124
Something in Yiddish probably

[Anonymous No.21683163]

https://about.netflix.com/en/news/netflix-acquires-iconic-roald-dahl-story-company

FYI, Netflix owns the rights to Dahl's works. You can genuinely blame Netflix for this.

[Anonymous No.21683257]

>>21681727
>I asked them if they bought the books, they say no and they call me a bootlicker just because I asked. People on /tg/ pirate everything. Nobody I ever met who played these games had bought the actual books in print
Your own anecdotal evidence is not worth much anon. I'm a regular /tg/ user and I both buy and pirate books for the games I am going to play, as while it important to have physical books at the table having enough copies of each book for everyone to easily check and use at the same time is simply impractical and prohibitively expensive.

[Anonymous No.21683274]

>>21682571
Good bait anon. It would be nice if people who actually think that way would instead recognize the intellectual value that comes from not simply forcing everything to adhere to your own preferred viewpoint and instead observing and contemplating other viewpoints both historical and contemporary.

[Anonymous No.21683305]

>>21681580
Link to one of the relevant articles with a list of selected edited passages:
https://archive.is/MYuXG

I'm just wondering if it's possible to get a job doing this with a uni English degree or if this is one of those jobs that will be replaced by a ChatGPT-style AI in the next 2 years.

[Anonymous No.21683324]

>>21682571
You're right, instead of having to have a conversation with your kids about how things were different in the past, better to just erase it. I just read the new edition of Heart of Darkness, it seemed like everyone got on fine in British Africa :)

[Anonymous No.21683333]

>>21683163
Keep circulating the tapes.

The real question is if whoever is the copyright owner can and should be doing this or if this is something consumers should complain about. What write do consumers have to argue against what the copyright owner does with their own creative work?

[Anonymous No.21683350]

>>21681580
What's the issue?

[Anonymous No.21683355]

>>21683333
It's censorship. That's the right to complain. The immediate response these people make is "it's not censorship if it's not the government," or "the companies THEMSELVES choose to do it." It's disingenuous, and always made in bad faith from people either directly supporting censorship, or wanting to something entirely unfeasible on a micro level, like the total destruction of capitalism.

[Anonymous No.21683489]

>>21683333
fuck you. i'm gonna shove an entire box of wheaties down your throat then half a gallon of milk so that your stomach ruptures

[Anonymous No.21683499]

>>21682074
It's the colonial name of a real place and they don't call it that anymore. It sort of makes sense but it's really just a virtue signal.

[Anonymous No.21683516]

>>21681580
Literally 1984

[Anonymous No.21683587]

a bit of a backlash is starting

[Anonymous No.21683602]

>nearly 60 - 70% of the changes were pointless
is this how useless employee's at publishers stay in a job ?
just make up busy work for yourself and do fuck all otherwise ?

[Anonymous No.21683608]

It is all part of a Satanic agenda.

[Anonymous No.21683612]

>>21681696
i don't care on a genuine level, I just think it's funny to laugh at how utterly pointless some of the changes were.
also, fuck fat people.

[Anonymous No.21683619]

>>21681590
Tf is wrong with screeching voice?

[Anonymous No.21683620]

>>21682451
you are blond then. they are removing any implications of a binary sex(boys and girls, men and women, brother and sister etc), and mentions of the characters being white british

[Anonymous No.21683624]

>>21683620
what does being blond have to do with this

[Anonymous No.21683628]

>>21683587
*a slight verbal disagreement in personal opinion has begun

[Anonymous No.21683631]

>>21681701
all of leftism today is defending finance capitalist owners. like mass immigration is facilitated by billionaire funded ngos and leftists run out to defend them

[Anonymous No.21683657]

>>21681580
this is the reason why. Posthumous revenge as they did with MJ

[Anonymous No.21683662]

>>21681748
yeah, the real distinction in modern economics should be noted as usuary

[Anonymous No.21683674]

>They release these censored versions
>receive backlash
>Publisher, a year or two down the line releases new versions that revert the censorship
>Heavily advertise this
>They sell like gangbusters
>People actually read the new editions, and find out they still censored the 'big' problematic content

[Anonymous No.21683714]

>Netflix now owns it all
He hated Willy Wonka & the Chocolate Factory (1971), and vowed never again to allow Hollywood to get their hands on one of his creations. His heirs evidently had other ideas.

[Anonymous No.21683720]

>>21683305
>English major wants to become commissar
Cute. I'd like a medium iced mocha.

[Anonymous No.21683731]

>>21682446
They did that a while ago. Iirc they renamed him to Black Tom

[Anonymous No.21683741]

>>21682571
>Nobody is going to read a children's book with bigoted and backwards worldviews
Back in my day, that's precisely how we got kids to read books. We'd pretend to ban them for being too spicy for kids, while keeping them available everywhere, then they'd be suckered into reading while still feeling like they're rebelling against the stuffy, boring adults.

[Anonymous No.21683759]

>>21682619
According to the Washington Post (https://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/2023/02/19/roald-dahl-books-revisions-salman-rushdie/)),
it's some group, called Inclusive Minds, that pushed Penguin Books and the Dahl estate into these bullshit changes. Here's their website stating what they're all about
https://www.inclusiveminds.com/

[Anonymous No.21683776]

>>21683759
>Ko-Fi and PayPal donations on their homepage

What the actual fuck. That's pathetic.

[Anonymous No.21683972]

This is the world we choose by continued inaction

[Anonymous No.21684413]

>>21681580
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>>21681603
>>21681608

This is the fate that awaits the transphobe JK Rowling once she is dead. The mutilation of her works, much like confirmation surgery

[Anonymous No.21684422]

>>21681727
>you don't buy it, you have no power.
This is backwards though. The changes you can see were made because a company with this particular bend bought Dahl's estate. Given the kind of changes a that have been done to some of it, it's doubtful any parent even cares about it, the kind of people who were on Dahl be sexist and sheeeeit train weren't in fact buying his books.

[Anonymous No.21684446]

>>21681580
So we know the censor was a fat woman who wished she were nonbinary. That much is clear

[Anonymous No.21684469]

Only the film rights brainlet. They weren't involved in publishing the new censored editions.

[Anonymous No.21684483]

>>21681580
>great flabby folds of fat bulged out from every part of his body, and his face was like a monstrous ball of dough
>those two ghastly hags
>Dirty old hags like her always have itchy tummies
goddamn Dahl was based as fuch

[Anonymous No.21684528]

>>21684483
He was in MI6 with Ian Flemming, as part of a special division comprised of cultured men who's job was to gamble, drink, and seduce the wives of Nazi high command. It's why Ian Flemming had zero idea how espionage worked, and why James Bond is ridiculous. It's because it's what these guys in reality.

[Anonymous No.21684578]

>>21684528
is not that how espionage actually is in really-life though?

[Anonymous No.21684593]

>>21681696
These aren’t Roald Dahl books. They ceased being Roald Dahl books once the author’s text was changed.

[Anonymous No.21684676]

>>21681696
I've always thought i'd get my kids into reading with Dahl since I loved him so much when I was little.

[Anonymous No.21684821]

>>21684469
That's incorrect. Netflix bought the Story company, as seen here. >>21683163 Now here's a quote from the Story Company about the changes.

>Hundreds of changes were made to the original text – and some passages not written by Dahl have been added. But the Roald Dahl Story Company said “it’s not unusual to review the language” during a new print run and any changes were “small and carefully considered”.

https://www.theguardian.com/books/2023/feb/18/roald-dahl-books-rewritten-to-remove-language-deemed-offensive

So yes, you very likely can blame Netflix in some capacity on this. Especially considering they bought the company two years ago, and these major changes are just happening?

[Anonymous No.21684855]

i wonder what these people would think if they read any of dahl's adult works

[Anonymous No.21684864]

>>21684578
>anon isn’t an international superspy bvll
ngmi

[Anonymous No.21684865]

>>21681580
The censorship isn't progressive enough, we must go further

[Anonymous No.21684866]

>>21681603
>ladies and gentlemen
>folks
What in the goddamn

[Anonymous No.21685069]

>Sensitivity writers
Let's call them what they are.
Historical revisionists.

[Anonymous No.21685085]

>>21683776
Yeah, I expected Omidyar or Open Society funding.

[Anonymous No.21685342]

>>21682446
yeah, about that...

[Anonymous No.21685346]

>>21683759
there are 10000s of these globo-homo front organizations. their names, logos and websites may as well be generated by AI

[Anonymous No.21685391]

>>21685342
>teehee I'll ask chatgpt about niggerman
> :(

[Anonymous No.21685394]

>>21683759
Dahl estate doesn't have any say in it anymore. Netflix bought all the rights and Netflix publicly branded him an antisemite before instantly beginning to ruin his books.

[Anonymous No.21685400]

Have you guys read Politics and the English Language essay by Orwell? This reminds me of that essay.

[Anonymous No.21685402]

>>21681603
>ladies and gentlemen
>folks
my sides

[Anonymous No.21685471]

I would be grateful if someone with better search engine skills could spoonfeed me a link to a torrent or other downloadable source of his completed works.

[Anonymous No.21685532]

>>21681580
Is Bruce Bogtrotter now Bruce Irishman, or is bogtrotter not offensive enough? I mean, if he was called Bruce Nigger they would change it, right?

[Anonymous No.21685583]

>>21681590
Can we not call them elephants any more? What's the correct term for them?

[Anonymous No.21685613]

>>21685583
People of mammothian descent.

[Anonymous No.21685658]

>>21685613
Kek

[Anonymous No.21685773]

>>21685391
The cat lived at least 27 years?

[Anonymous No.21686038]

>>21685773
They can make it past thirty, right?

[Anonymous No.21686040]

>>21681580
First they came for the video games, and I did not speak out—because I was not a gamer.
Then they came for the cartoons, and I did not speak out—because I was not a pedo.
Then they came for TV shows, and I did not speak out—because I was not a dickhead.
Then they came for books—and there was no one left to speak for me.

[Anonymous No.21686062]

>>21681580
Clown world

[Anonymous No.21686066]

Who the hell would want to go to nineteenth century estates or to California?

[Anonymous No.21686121]

>>21683587
have we started the fire brother

[Anonymous No.21687603]

It goes bigger than this.
They forced Dr. Seuss's estate to stop re-printing some of his books too.

[Anonymous No.21687617]

Do yourself a favor, stock up on ALL of these "controversial books", they will only go up in price over the next couple of decades.

[Anonymous No.21687651]

Mark Twain books are definitely worth collecting too.

[Anonymous No.21687752]

Rudyard Kipling will probably be cancelled even more in the future.

[Anonymous No.21687770]

Is there a list of Based literature that I can download?
I'm trying to buy as many of these books as I can over the next few months.

[Anonymous No.21687803]

https://tinybeans.com/classic-kids-books-with-racist-stereotypes/

[Anonymous No.21688442]

>>21687651
If you think this, then you 100% missed the point of the book.

[Anonymous No.21688502]

>>21688442
Think what? That book collecting is bad...??

[Anonymous No.21688549]

>>21685583
I think it might be because elephants are going extinct.

[Anonymous No.21688587]

>>21681580
There is nowhere on the world left where one might flee the Qin.

[Anonymous No.21688616]

[Anonymous No.21688623]

>>21688549
It's also a decolonialism thing. You can see it from the other references they removed.

[Anonymous No.21688651]

>>21688549
Elephants are Black coded bro

[Anonymous No.21688659]

relative normalfag here, only caught wind of this shit due to Philip Pullman saying he supports these alterations. Shocks me that he apparently isn't bright enough to consider that his position, and the reasoning for these alterations, could easily end up being against him and his own works at some point in the undefined future.
I honestly thought he had a better head on his shoulders than that.
Any motherfucker who pushes this kind of shit never seems to realise that it WILL be used against them the moment the opportunity arises.

[Anonymous No.21688666]

>>21685532
It's Caitlyn Nigger now, chud.

[Anonymous No.21688676]

>>21684413
Shouldn't have been woke

[Anonymous No.21688842]

>>21688659
Pullman is an atheist, he doesn't give a shit about his legacy. He just enjoys the sweet feeling of being on the "winning side" of the culture war in the present, and when a new, even more radical mob finally attacks his own values, he'll probably be dead already. Whether his actions leave the world a worse place for his descendants doesn't matter to him either.

[Anonymous No.21689045]

>>21688842
Checks out, considering his arrogance on the matter. He stated that Dahl's work doesn't add much to our overall body of literature, and if it isn't going to be altered, it just simply be allowed to go out of print and die.
With that in mind, I have to wonder if he has a stash of Dahl originals somewhere and he's banking on them gaining value from this.

[Anonymous No.21689085]

Lefties be like:
>there's nothing more important than consent! If I don't give you permission to think I'm attractive then you're literally raping me!
And also
>let's go through this old white guy's books and change all the words we don't like. He's dead so it's not like he can stop us lol.

[Anonymous No.21689126]

>>21682359
>You are in fact agreeing to your kids getting pozzed. You are voting with inaction
Yup.
I know a guy with a tranny son. He disagrees, but still calls his son she and her because "he doesn't wanna rock the boat"
Now his son is planning on getting his dick cut off

[Anonymous No.21689135]

>>21682074
>>21683499
I worked with some Indian debuggers once who lived there and they all called it Pondicherry. Such a bizarre change.

[Anonymous No.21689800]

>>21689126
Owch

[Anonymous No.21689804]

>>21681603
Ugliness is okay but fearful ugliness isn't. Wut?

[Anonymous No.21689807]

Literally who gives a shit about this hack or his uncanny valley stories?

[Anonymous No.21689808]

>>21683662
Cool it with the anti-semitic remarks.

[Anonymous No.21689815]

>>21689135
If they grew up with the name being frequently used it would be literally just name to them, because most people don't really give enough shit to research historical context.

[Anonymous No.21689828]

You fags do realize this is just an experiment right? They're literally just testing to see how much pushback this will get so they can determine how difficult it will be to push their jewish agenda in more meaningful ways

[Anonymous No.21689847]

>>21687617
Can you give me some good controversial book recs? I've got The Nigger of Narcissus already.

[Anonymous No.21690236]

I'm part elephant myself and I welcome these changes. There have been so many different prey and trophy animals over the years, and dumping the load on us is unfair and only furthers the stereotype that we all have those sweet, sweet ivory tusks.

[Anonymous No.21690350]

>>21689847
https://bannedbooks.indiana.edu/exhibits/show/bannedbooks/france---england--17th-18th-ce

[Anonymous No.21690354]

>>21690350
Those are all books banned by the old regime, though. They'll probably be mandatory reading in the future.

[Anonymous No.21690357]

>>21690350
https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/life-style/books/photo-stories/15-classics-that-stirred-controversies-when-first-released/photostory/61626496.cms?picid=61626514
Not all of these are worth buying/saving though.
Like Dan Brown novels are controversial because they're dumb, not because they include correct racist stereotypes or anything like that.

[Anonymous No.21690401]

>>21688842
why do you shitbirds always bring religion into this?
contrary to puritanical belief, men free of the shackles of religious institution are fully capable of having values. more so, in fact, because they have a better reason to hold onto them.

[Anonymous No.21690419]

>>21690401
Read the post again. Anon says Pullman has values, but doesn't care if those values persist beyond his own natural lifetime.

[Anonymous No.21690428]

>>21690419
thats a retarded pretext anyway, we know how fast these fuckers accelerate. 2012 was unrecognizable compared to now.

[Anonymous No.21690448]

>>21690428
Pullman is 76, he isn't going to be around much longer and he knows it. If he pictures ten years from now in his mind, he's more likely to see a cold wet grave than a dystopian vision of society.

[Anonymous No.21690453]

>>21689828
Leftists should be killed on every hill.