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anything else like this???

>> No.21750672

He wrote some sequels

>> No.21750677

>>21750672
yeah i mean by other authors?

>> No.21750770
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>>21750663
I wish this dude would stop talking about the men. I really don't give a shit about the nostalgia-driven fantasies of a syphilitic homosexual dying in a trench. I'd MUCH rather read about all the lesbians. The narrator spends so much time worrying about Albertine having lesbian sex, or Gilberte getting seduced by the milfy actress. But we only see it happen a few times, iirc! In fact, Albertine never even bothers to confirm she's fucking Andree, even though we KNOW they are having lesbian orgies EVERY DAY while in Balbec!

And yeah, I'm aware of the interpretation that these characters actually represent homosexual young men. That's shameful and embarrassing! Lesbians are a pure, perfect representation of human sexuality, while male homosexuals are pathetic and sad creatures which deserve only our contempt.

>> No.21750771

>>21750672
>sequels

>> No.21750791

>>21750770
a man wrote this.

>> No.21750841

>>21750663
I'm autistically trying to get the best translation for this, what I have:
* The Vintage International version, Moncrieff updated/revised by Kilmarten (I think this one is the best, but I only have the physical version, not ebook, which saddens me.
* The Moncrieff version updated by Enright via Kilmarten (pretty decent update, but lacks something I don't know what)
* The Penguin version translated by Lydia Davis. (This one seems to be the most clearly communicated text but... I still like the Kilmartin update)

What's your favorite?

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>>21750791
Correct.

I'm a MAN. I don't want to see two males having sex, that would be gay. Seeing a man and a woman having sex is a bit better, but I'm still having to look at the one male specimen. It's a near occasion of homosexuality. And don't come to me with that retarded, 'hurr youre supposed to self-insert' bullshit. That's just one degree off of cuckold fetish.

Ah, but lesbians! With lesbians, I don't have have to see any men. It's just women, engaging in pure sex. There's no male homosexuality involved. I want to see more of that. I'm not interested in Proust's angst over wanting to be defiled by older men.

>> No.21751201

>>21750663
Does anyone know where you can download the Carter annotated volumes of ISOLT (OP's image shows volume 1)? I can only find volume 2. I know that he's not finished with ISOLT yet, volume 5-6 should be coming out this or next month iirc.

>> No.21752161

>>21750663
It's great and im not even gay

>> No.21752177

>>21751111
>Ah, but lesbians! With lesbians, I don't have have to see any men. It's just women, engaging in pure sex. There's no male homosexuality involved. I want to see more of that. I'm not interested in Proust's angst over wanting to be defiled by older men.
The sort of girls who are lesbos are typically overweight

>> No.21752207

>>21750841
Moncrieff's perfectly serviceable.

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>>21752177
The same goes for gay males. You’re thinking of the US after all

>> No.21752270

>>21750663
My Struggle by Karl Ove Knausgaard is really the closest thing. Completely different, but also the most similar that exists.

>> No.21752277

>>21750841
The Penguin versions are the most literal

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Pardon the “comics” heavy list, but they *something* like it.

Jerusalem, Moore
Lanark, Gray
American Splendor, Pikar
Cerberus, Sim

>> No.21752521

>>21750841
davis is the most word-for-word, as another commenter has said. this works well for her translation of Bovary but is uneven for Proust in my opinion. I would say go Moncrieff with Carter's annotations. it's the version that's most influential in the anglophone world. if you see another english language writer reference proust, this is the version they're referencing.

>> No.21752644

>>21750663
There's a couple of Felisberto Hernández' stories where it seems he read Proust and understood quite literally that objects can be containers of memories. Search for the story about the piano teacher, can't be arsed to look for it right now.

>> No.21752645

>>21750663
Inland by Gerald Murnane. But he solely focuses upon the metaphysical and memory

>> No.21752896

>>21750663
The sequels?

>> No.21753003

>>21752253
I really, really, really like this image. Mind if I save it?

>> No.21753012

>>21750663
What is this pic even supposed to be?

>> No.21753015

>>21751111
That's even more gay because it trains you to self insert as the woman. But keep coping.

>> No.21754445

>>21753012
Fond memories of maman’s homemade Madeleines

>> No.21754499

>>21750663
The sequels.

>> No.21754560

>>21753012
It's the pastry which starts his fond recollections of some relatively minor guy who did some stuff years before he was even born.

>> No.21754566

>>21750841
the original unrevised moncrieff titled remembrance of things past is the best one

>> No.21754569

>>21753012
Swann's Way in a nutshell

>Wow, this pastry is good. Mmmmm
>This reminds me of that one Jewish incel guy I vaguely knew from way back. Good times, good times.

>> No.21754577

>>21752177
That's fine, this is why we have FICTION.

>>21753015
If that's your reaction to lesbian sex, go to therapy.

>> No.21754745

>>21750841
I liked the Davis better but you're going to have to deal with Moncrieff at some point since she's only doing the first book and I don't know why you'd fuck with an "update" unless you don't want to be bothered learning the amusing slang of yesteryear.

>> No.21754747

>>21751111
hey it's the red scare girls

>> No.21754845

>>21751111
cringe

>> No.21754849

>>21753012
the greatest novel ever written on the face of this goddamned planet...

>> No.21754855

>>21752645
This is shit, so no idea why the retard recommended it.

>> No.21754869

In terms of prose, later Henry James

>> No.21755498

Nabokov Ada, Memoirs of the Duc de St Simon

>> No.21756029

>>21754855
You are retarded

>> No.21756031

>>21756029
Read better books, fag.

>> No.21756032

>>21753012
>>21754849
Not literature

>> No.21756034

>>21756031
There are no better books

>> No.21756036

>>21756034
Even YA is better than Murshit

>> No.21756037

>>21754869
James sux

>> No.21756074

>>21756036
Retard

>> No.21756096

>>21756074
>seethes when people find Murnane shit
>defends murnane
>spams murnane
>calls other people retarded
Interesting

>> No.21756116

>>21756037
t. corncob

>> No.21756288

no one comes close to Proust.
Maybe Balzac could fill in some time?

>> No.21756300

>>21756096
You have never read Murnane

>> No.21756301

>>21756288
Proust is trash

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>>21756300
What was that, you insecure faggot? Oh yeah, your glorified YA aussie is super obscure …

>> No.21756398

>>21756377
You think he is worse than YA and have bought 3 of his books? Lmao retard.

Barth is trash too.

>> No.21756403

>>21756398
>reddit spacing
>barth is trash too
So at least we are in agreement that your glorified YA writer, Murnane, is trash. You also have not read Barth

>> No.21756423

>>21756403
>retard doesn't know what redditspacing is
I should have guessed. I should also have guessed that some retarded postmodern shitter would object to Murnane because he is more experimental and profound than the dreck they read.

>> No.21756439

>>21756423
>>retard doesn't know what redditspacing is
Yes, we know that about you already

>> No.21756452

>>21756439
You don't know what redditspacing is newfag retard

>> No.21756461

>>21756452
Absolutely kek at Murshit fags being genuine retards.
Based retard

>> No.21756495

>>21756461
Retard. Go waste your time with barf, kek

>> No.21757050

>>21750672
Names?

>> No.21757612

>>21757050
That retard means Volumes 2-7. Idk why people like that browse this board.