Typewriters

[Anonymous No.21762572]

Looking to purchase a typewriter.
I have always thought of them as pretentious and antediluvian, but after reading some books on various author's editing processes, I see the value in this device.

My question is, what makes a "good" typewriter?
What are some brands or features that I should be on the lookout for?

[Anonymous No.21762646]

>>21762572
Don't do this shit, anon. You WILL cringe every time you see it. You see them as pretentious and antediluvian because that's what they are. If you want a "modern" typewriter get an old laptop that doesn't have any other software installed and no internet

[Anonymous No.21762658]

>>21762646
Cringe take. Anon, if a typewriter helps with your process then buy one and don’t give a shit what some fags on the internet think of it.

I have a Royal Safari, my advice is to look for refurbished ones on etsy. Don’t waste your time with the cheap chinese amazon typewriters.

[࿇ C Œ M G E N V S ࿇ !KNDY/Ar.iI No.21762667]

>>21762572

>Looking to purchase a typewriter.

...


>I have always thought of them as pretentious and antediluvian, but after reading some books on various author's editing processes, I see the value in this device.

I WAS ABOUT TO EXPLAIN HOW YOU ARE AN INCARNATE CLICHÉ, BUT THIS CLEARS THINGS UP & INVALIDATES MY PREJUDICE.

[Anonymous No.21762676]

>>21762658
You don't write anything.

[Anonymous No.21762684]

>>21762572
Don’t put yourself through this, it makes editing your work so much more laborious. It will slow you down. The novelty will quickly wear off and you’ll regret spending your money on one.

[Anonymous No.21762756]

>>21762676
Speak for yourself you fag-shitter. I write so good you would try to be my friend if you knew me.

[Anonymous No.21762760]

>>21762572
Olivetti Lettera 32. That's it.
I use it to draft because I don't edit until it's done and I can move onto editing it.

[Anonymous No.21762763]

>>21762684
How is it any different to writing it down with a pen in a journal? If many writers before the invention of a computer can do it, so can we. We also lose out on the drafting process because we constantly edit.

[Anonymous No.21762782]

That typewriter looks like the Crushinator from Futurama.

[Anonymous No.21762799]

>>21762763
It isn’t any different to writing with a pen in a journal, but that just means it is as equally inefficient in the modern era as that. Your mentality is like that of the old farmer who rejects the tractor, which would quadruple his output, because the scythe works “just fine”. And the typewriter wouldn’t prevent you from neurotically editing before it is wise to do so, don’t kid yourself.

[Anonymous No.21762815]

>>21762799
>output
Quality over quantity. Someone should get their draft out, then edit it diligently, not fuck around with it constantly as they write.
>And the typewriter wouldn’t prevent you from neurotically editing before it is wise to do so, don’t kid yourself.
Have you ever used one? Going back and hitting XXXX over words is usually very time-consuming, so one won't feel the need to do it when they're trying to draft. I might correct an obvious typo, but I prefer writing this way. There's just tried and true ways of writing, and this can work for some people.

[Anonymous No.21762851]

>>21762658
But you don’t write anything why even get a typewriter.

[Anonymous No.21762857]

>>21762851
I just got shortlisted for the penultimate Penguin Random House national literary prize in my Central American country. Try again.

[Anonymous No.21762874]

There's only one good typewriter and it has 5 horsepower and hums like a junkers going into a dive. Everything else is quaint.

[Anonymous No.21762890]

I recently bought a Freewrite gen 2. It was expensive. How retarded am I?

[Anonymous No.21762891]

>>21762857
Yeah, you’re really winning in life. That’s why you’re getting pressed about comments from random people on 4chan.

[Anonymous No.21762901]

>>21762890
>not the hemingwrite
You're a fucking downie.
>>21762891
I'm still gonna get a million pesos, nigger.

[Anonymous No.21762923]

>>21762901
Enjoy the bean burritos you’ll spend all your money on. Hope they can fill the void in your spic heart.

[Anonymous No.21762928]

>>21762901
>over $1500
holy shitballs why

[Anonymous No.21762931]

>>21762928
>A hand-polished aluminum chassis and green keycaps
>Ernest Hemingway's official signature
>The Hemingwrite Attaché Case
>A monogrammed, microfiber cloth
Need I say more?

[Anonymous No.21762935]

>>21762676
>>21762851
>>21762891
This is such a model specimen of a loser-mindset that it should be in a museum.

[Anonymous No.21762943]

>>21762931

[Anonymous No.21762947]

>>21762928
$500 for the keyboard and case isn't an unreasonable guess for bespoke drop shipped chinkshit, $30 for the raspi powering it, some development and programming costs. ??? Profit.

[Anonymous No.21762951]

>>21762935
Ok, beaner

[Anonymous No.21762952]

>>21762947
It's handcrafted.
>Each unit is finished by hand so no two are exactly alike. The raw aluminum surface will develop a completely unique patina over time, making each Hemingwrite a one-of-a-kind collector's piece.

[Anonymous No.21762970]

[Anonymous No.21762978]

>>21762970
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bs5TEuZPQl8

[Anonymous No.21763073]

>>21762901
>>21762931
>>21762952
ok now that I think about it I want it

[Anonymous No.21764652]

OP here, I should have elaborated:

>When using a typewriter a lot of authors talked about being inspired by something within their line of vision. Laptops and even notebooks do not have this quality to this extent.
>They would edit by going over their typewriter draft in pen, which seems way more engaging
>Sometimes a mechanical malrunction would lead to a breakthrough.
>They would simultaneously write down thoughts that didn't seem to fit their current piece in an adjascent notebook to revisit in later drafts and coalesce.

[Anonymous No.21764656]

>>21762667
Thank you cumgenius. You are regularly expanding my vocabulary towards imaginary realms.

[Anonymous No.21764663]

>>21762890
>>21762901
what the fuck why not just slap a mechanical keyboard + raspberry pi + screen together

[Anonymous No.21764669]

>>21764652
>When using a typewriter a lot of authors talked about being inspired by something within their line of vision. Laptops and even notebooks do not have this quality to this extent.
I don't understand this. Are you inspired by a piece of paper? For me, typing something out on a computer gives me the same amount of inspiration as does on a type writer or hand written, just that typing things out on a computer and type writer tend to be faster.
>They would edit by going over their typewriter draft in pen, which seems way more engaging
I mean I guess? Personally there is nothing really engaging about doing that in my opinion. If anything it is frustrating because you have to take the piece of paper out and white out what you got wrong, stick the paper back in and hope it is aligned correctly.
>Sometimes a mechanical malrunction would lead to a breakthrough.
You can achieve this same effect by just occasionally stepping back from your computer.
>They would simultaneously write down thoughts that didn't seem to fit their current piece in an adjascent notebook to revisit in later drafts and coalesce.
Are you talking about having a notebook beside you that you can write in? You can literally do this anyway in open office or libreoffice or whatever word document you have. Hell, you can have multiple windows open at the same time if you want.

[Anonymous No.21764672]

>>21762667
lel

[Anonymous No.21764755]

>>21764652
>They would simultaneously write down thoughts that didn't seem to fit their current piece in an adjascent notebook to revisit in later drafts and coalesce.

[Anonymous No.21765316]

>>21762572
Waste of money.

[Anonymous No.21765338]

Can any of you post a picture of your manuscript

[Anonymous No.21765365]

>>21765338
No

[Anonymous No.21765366]

>>21765338
Why? I'm trying to get it published. I can show you the side of the manuscript maybe.

[Anonymous No.21765564]

>>21764669
I don't use computers to write at all desu. I could post some pictures from the book that might explain this better

[Anonymous No.21765995]

>>21764755
See, it is more about the rpidity in which a hardcopy is obtained and printing takes longer.

[Anonymous No.21766069]

>>21762931
>Ernest Hemingway's official signature
Ernest Hemingway isn't even alive, I could put his signature on anything, I could put it on my ass, get his signature tattooed on my ass.

[Anonymous No.21766472]

>>21766069
Ya but tattooed on your ass still costs money

[Anonymous No.21766497]

>>21765564
>I could show you a book
Blow it out your ass hipster. I know you don’t use a computer, that’s the point. A computer is more efficient for just about everything barring printing but that is a small price to pay considering all of the paper you will throw away in the process of writing physically or constantly white out. If this is all about some nostalgia bullshit or autistic level of association then my advice is to get the type writer that you think looks the coolest and don’t even think about practicality because you clearly threw that out the window a long time ago.

[Anonymous No.21766552]

>>21766497
Why do you care about paper being thrown away?

[Anonymous No.21766933]

>>21762572
Honestly it does not much matter, most typewriters function well to this day. I bought one a couple of days ago, it will arrive tomorrow. Just get one that fits your aesthetic and has the functions you need. I got mine because I do journaling, but sometimes I write so much my hand starts hurting.
Also because at a computer I can use the backspace key, I can remove whole paragraphs, etc, making it easy to delete everything when "it doesn't feel right yet".

>>21762874
Junkers don't hum when they go into a dive, they scream.

>>21762782
Wasn't futurama heavily inspired by futurism and streamlined design?

[Anonymous No.21767039]

>>21765365
>>21765366
You have used your typewriter maybe twice. You typed "the quick brown fox" or something inane like that, struggling to hit the keys right with your clammy fingers, then attempted to write something just so you could hear the DING; you kept hitting two keys at the same time, jamming the hammers, and constantly made typos while writing at 5wpm. In at least once instance you needed a character that wasn't available and you thought "wow I wish this was a computer". After an exhausting 10 minutes of typing your fingers felt cramped, so you called it a day and went to sit in fron of your computer to tell other people how good it feels to use a typewriter and how you were completely free of distractions and needed no electricity. You sat back on your chair and imagined yourself in a dingy motel, smoking a pipe and drinking some cognac, hammering a masterpiece away on your trusty typewriter. You swore you'd take your 5 kilogram companion everywhere with you, and that was the last tine you've actually sat down to write in the past 2 years.

[Anonymous No.21767129]

>>21767039
Projecting? I suggest you go see a therapist if it was really important that you type all this up. This all reads like a cry for help if I were to be honest.

[Anonymous No.21767217]

>>21764755
you missed the point entirely

[Anonymous No.21767302]

>>21767129
It’s good that you realize that. Hope you don’t waste your money on a typewriter.

[Anonymous No.21767308]

>>21767039
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=flnFIfdADVg
you have transcribed this short, but why?

[Anonymous No.21768510]

>>21767039
Genuinely concerning behaviour

[Anonymous No.21768540]

>>21762572
>Adler
They're like sewing machines. You have it for the analogue option unmediated by printer ink usury. And perhaps for additional personal touch in business & private communications.

[Anonymous No.21768575]

>>21762760
I have a Lettera 22 and it's great to type on. I also have an Olympia Splendid 33 and it's also nice but totally different feel.

I like using a typewriter for 3 reasons: 1, no distractions unlike my laptop, and no, airplane mode isn't enough. 2, it forces me to turn off my inner editor and just draft and watch the papers stack. 3, it's fun.and I like the sound.

OP, don't get them from etsy, that's probably the most expensive place. Ebay can have reasonable deals or Facebook marketplace or whatever your local buy and sell is, sometimes people don't know what they have and you can get a great machine fir $40 instead of $400+ on etsy.

[Anonymous No.21768886]

Serious question for people in this thread. I am schitzotypal and I am very worried about my affliction exascerbating to this point. I know that we joke about schitzoposts and such, but posts like this genuinely concern me and make me worry about the future.
>>21767039

[Anonymous No.21769597]

>>21768886
Same desu

[Anonymous No.21769641]

>>21762756
>I write so good
*well

[Anonymous No.21769649]

>>21762799
>Your mentality is like that of the old farmer who rejects the tractor, which would quadruple his output, because the scythe works “just fine”
ngl, you kinda sound like a jew.

[Anonymous No.21769664]

>>21762890
>How retarded am I?
depends. How rich are you?

[Anonymous No.21769674]

>>21768540
>Adler
sounds jewish
don't buy anything jewish, anon.

[Anonymous No.21769792]

>>21762928
Its infused with machine-spirit of Hemingway, so its owner will become great writer or a suicidal addict.

[Anonymous No.21770579]

>>21769649
Being efficient doesn’t automatically mean you have no soul, you blithering retard.

[Anonymous No.21770598]

Op here I bought typewriter and a vintage adding machine for number poems.

[Anonymous No.21772157]

>>21762572

Try the Hanx Writer app. https://apps.apple.com/us/app/hanx-writer/id868326899

[Anonymous No.21772162]

>>21770579
>Being efficient doesn’t automatically mean you have no soul, you blithering retard.

You should have typed that out then mailed it to him. He doesn't use computers.

[Anonymous No.21772499]

>>21762572

If youre going to use a typewriter please make sure you have a sound-proof office, because nobody else wants to hear the sound of your clickety clack clack clack all night long. Thank you fren.

[Anonymous No.21772520]

>>21772499
I have an apartment all to myself and the upstairs neighbours are noisy but in a Mr.Bean sort of way, so i'm sure it's fine.

[Anonymous No.21773407]

>>21762572
any smith corona from goodwill

[Anonymous No.21773424]

>>21762658
>with your process
If you need anything more than a word processor and a keyboard, I don't know hat to tell you, anon. Writing isn't some arcane sorcery where you need to assemble different reagents in the right order to get a good result

[Anonymous No.21773541]

>>21762667
and /thread

[Anonymous No.21773779]

>>21773424
>Writing isn't some arcane sorcery where you need to assemble different reagents in the right order to get a good result

NGMI

[Anonymous No.21774077]

>>21772499
Speak for yourself.

[Anonymous No.21774137]

>>21762970
I laughed so hard I farted
holy shit these goblinoids are tragic

[Anonymous No.21774143]

>>21772499
don't worry, none of these people will do any typing

[Anonymous No.21774347]

>>21774143
I'm typing right now idiot.

[Anonymous No.21774364]

>>21774347
ohh so shitposts are literature now

[Anonymous No.21775310]

>>21774364
They are if you edit them on a typewriter first before posting them.

[Anonymous No.21777176]

>giving your shitposts a second draft

[Anonymous No.21777247]

>>21764663
You think people that buy this shit are smart enough to do that, anon? Cause if they were they wouldn't buy it or even need it in the first place.

[Anonymous No.21777267]

Buying a typewriter is fucking retarded and if you're even considering that you haven't written a single thing in your life. You will never even learn to write on a typewriter because it's substantially harder than touch typing on a shitty computer keyboard. This is just masturbation so that you get to never start writing on a tool that you have, e.g. your fucking computer.
Get a laptop you fucking morons. Maybe one for gaming at least you'll have a use for with it when you realize that you'll never write a thing.

[Anonymous No.21777288]

Why not just buy a raspberry pi, a keycap style keyboard, and a screen? That would be much more useful. And you would learn to build your own computer and a little bit about how linux works. It would be significantly cheaper than a computer, and you could even make and style your own case. It would also be cheaper than a typewriters. Typewriter ribbon and repair is a pain - the keys stick, the ribbon wears out and it's often a specialty product that costs extra if the typewriter isn't made any more. There are so many more solutions that are more worthwhile.

[Anonymous No.21777403]

>>21777288
You can literally just salvage an old laptop from the fucking dumpster. You don't need to buy anything. If you want to LARP with a write-only machine you don't need to jump through hoops with a rpi and linux. Buy a fucking laptop with any gay OS that's on it, have whatever program you want for writing since any decent software is multi-platform, and write. You literally just have to turn it on and have the word processor fire up at boot
this is all LARPer shit, including the rpi home project. it's all glorified procrastination so you can never start to write until you have the perfect tool and the perfect chair and the perfect scented candle to light up while you're writing on your perfect machine

[Anonymous No.21777536]

>>21777403
>>21777267
I have written two novels on a typewriter, I would bet all the money I have that you two faggots have never wrote anything of substance.

If you want to get a typewriter, get a typewriter who cares. If it works for you, it works.

[Anonymous No.21777557]

>>21777536
>I would bet all the money I have
you don't have any money

[Anonymous No.21777618]

>>21777403
>>21777403
So during the bad old days of my youth I had the inkling to put all my possessions in a Toyota Yaris and drive around the country. Now if you know anything about the Toyota Yaris it's the poor man's Honda Fit. It has the dash panel in the middle of the car, so when they want to sell the car in Europe they just have to flip the steering column. It’s that kind of awful car. So I had my setup in this thing I had a wifi speaker above the dash connected to my phone by a charger plugged into the cigarette lighter so I had music. And I went everywhere with that thing. I started in Richmond VA and I went south through the blue ridge mountains, down into Memphis over to Nashville all the way through to New Orleans (during Halloween at that). I made it across to Austin driving all night so that the pavement was lit only by the glow of the gas off fires from oil rigs. I drove to Alburque and flagstaff. Up through California and down into Denver via Wyoming. And the entire time I was writing in one of those little black and white journals that for some reason looks like the army decided dead cow was the preferred camouflage for the active penner. In Denver I bought a typewriter at colossal expense at a place that sold type writers and serviced ancient vacuums, off the main looped highway on the outskirts of the industrial district where it’s nothing but pavement and strip mall. Why someone would run a business that sold vacuum cleaners and typewriters I will never know except to say that I was amazed that they did enough business to stay open. And I dragged that monster by its handlebar case into the motel I was staying at and I typed a couple of sentences until I no longer knew what to do with it. But the funny thing is, I, too this day, do not remember what I wrote in that journal. I would write and write in that journal until I had a set number of pages and then I would thumb through the pages endlessly until my thumb would leave grease marks because even having written those few densely scribbled pages until the paper was brittle was enough to make me feel like I had accomplished something. I had never done anything of my own before that I could say that was my own, that was an original thought, or that made me feel like I was important and that my existence had some sort of purpose outside of not dying because dying is painful and we don’t know what it’s like. I later went to a big party and threw the notebook into a bonfire because I was so much more impressed with what everyone else was doing and I thought my own writing and my own introspection had too much darkness and self doubt in it.

But.

If I hadn’t been a young self-indulgent egoist that had bought a typewriter and had sat for an afternoon like a fool all by myself in a motel room on the empty side of Tuesday afternoon I wouldn’t be reminded just now of that story.

I have no idea what any of this means other than to say that things happen.

[Anonymous No.21778191]

>>21777176
See,
this guys get it.
Sometimes you just need to work editing into your daily routine.

[Anonymous No.21778194]

>>21777267
>Buy a typwriter is dumb
>You don't write
>Buy a laptop for video games

Lmao

[Anonymous No.21778201]

>>21777288
>>21777403
How do I print what I have written exactly the instant I have stopped writing?

How do I prevent myself from fixing any errors which might lead to a lateral connection upon re-reading?

[Anonymous No.21778717]

>>21777618
I enjoyed this story, thank you anon.

[Anonymous No.21779567]

>>21762646
>>21762658
It's an experience any writer should try, just so they know how it used to have to be done. I do enjoy experimenting with the slower process, when I don't have to rush on a story. I placed in a contest with a story I wrote on my 1920’s Underwood, so suck it.
Pictured: my second typewriter, the Royal Fleetwood. I like my Underwood a little better, but you gotta admit this is sexy. It also has an AM radio.

>>21762890
>>21763073
Retarded but not if it helps you. I've own a Gen1 for years and it's helped me increase my word count and I just love using it.

>>21762901
>>21762928
>>21762931
I want a Hemingwrite so bad, bros, it's so nice-looking. Not paying a grand, though.

I also bought a Traveler because I was having to travel a lot, and incidentally the return key stopped working and I it and the shift key off to tinker and I can't get the scissor switches back on. Yes I am a consumer.

>>21772499
I take it out on my porch, so the singing of the keys rings throughout the neighborhood.

[Anonymouṡ No.21779673]

>>21777557

[Anonymous No.21779715]

>>21762572
For me, it's my IBM Lexmark Wheelwriter 2000 Electric Typewriter With 32K Storage and Spell Check. with backspace/erase feature, full electronic memory, recall, and 4 unique margin settings.

[Anonymous No.21779740]

>>21762890
>wifi
>no numpad

[Anonymous No.21779744]

>>21762952
>collector's piece
What collector? People who collect typewriters? People who collect typewriters aren't going to collect a modern wifi-enabled IoT crapbox

[Anonymous No.21779750]

>>21765338
No, but I can fax it to you. What's your fax number?

[Anonymous No.21779983]

>>21779740
Why would you need a number pad?

[Anonymous No.21780103]

>>21779567
Looks like a waste of money

[Anonymous No.21780152]

What great pieces of literature has been written since we collectively abandoned the typewriter? Most the greats that continue to write still use their old typewriters. It forces you to slow down, it forces you to finish before you edit. A screen kills your thoughts before they've had the chance to really be thought out. Not only that but it's hard on the eyes. Paper can be felt in the hand, it's tangible. If the paper and ink is tangible it makes the thoughts you've put to it have actual weight. Reading paper books vs ebooks helps you retain more information. Just the act of holding the book makes reading a more enjoyable experience. There is a time and place to use computers to write, just like how I read ebooks when it's something like genre fiction. I've had zero regrets shifting all my drafting to the typewriter and it makes me wonder how better my old pieces would have been if they were typed on paper vs my laptop.

[Anonymous No.21780153]

>>21780103
The Freewrite? It depends.
It's fun to write on. It does help you focus. If those are things that are valuable to you and you're not a poorfag, then it's a good purchase.

Me? I bought mine used off of Craigslist. I write erotica on Amazon. It helped me focus and pump out stories faster than I had been doing. It paid itself back in a month. So for me it's not a waste of money.

[Anonymous No.21780275]

>>21779983
Typing numbers in a way that isn't awful?

[Anonymous No.21780321]

>>21780275
Why would you be typing numbers more than a few digits in your fiction? This if for short stories and novels.

[Anonymous No.21780485]

>>21780321
Well if I'm doing my accounts, I don't want a separate machine for it.

[Anonymous No.21780528]

>>21780485
You're being facetious, but you wouldn't be doing your accounts on this device.

[Anonymous No.21780763]

>>21780485
That’s easy man. Just get a Hemingwrite and send it to your accountant with wifi.

[Anonymous No.21781645]

I love typewriters for their sense of putting you more there as some anons said and the feeling of writing I one. Its not as efficent, but it’s easier to fix errors in it than you think. Especially if it has a backspace feature.

[Anonymous No.21781723]

I've wanted to get a typewriter for awhile but I'm worried it will just sit in my room and I won't use it. I mostly want to use it to write daily journal notes and use it to try and enforce a daily routine but I'm too COOMSUME deadbrained to focus ;_;

[Anonymous No.21781986]

>>21781723
do NOT beat off

[Anonymous No.21782035]

>>21774364
On /lit/ they are.

[Anonymous No.21782709]

>>21777267
A typewriter is a tool to write on and was used before computers were a capable thing to type on.

[Anonymous No.21782757]

What typewriter brands/models would /lit/ recommend?

[Anonymous No.21782767]

Zoomer here, can you make an edit on typewritters? What do you do if you make a mistake?

[Anonymous No.21782931]

>>21782767
Some typewriters, not sure if most, have a backspace that takes the ink out of the page. You can also slide the castor back to fix mistakes, but make sure when you catvh a mistake you don’t make the page go up. Basically gaze to see if the line/sentence of words is typo free. Mistakes could be fixed and/or edited by someone else if you think about publishing the writings.

[Anonymous No.21783057]

>>21782757
Anything pre-70s with do you fine but be prepared to do at least some cleaning on them if they've been sitting in some grandma's basement for 40 years.
>>21782767
Manual typewriters typically don't have any editing functions. You can x out the words or get some whiteout. You can even copy and paste with scissors and glue if you're rearranging whole paragraphs. The ink on most ribbons won't lift, that's only a special typewriter that uses a special ink, but you used to be able to buy ink erasers that basically abrase the ink off the paper or correction tape that works kind of like whiteout that you type into the page, but most typewriter products from back in the day aren't made anymore or are hard to find.
You're going to be mostly living with your mistakes until you scan your work and fix it on the computer. The typewriter is for drafting, the computer for polishing.
There are a few typewriter enthousiast communities out there with a ton of information, or even youtube.

[Anonymous No.21783305]

Just got my Freewrite in the mail bros! Am about to write my masterpiece, just you all wait! Will post first line of manuscript with my hard dick if anyone wants to see

[Anonymous No.21783437]

>>21782767
The whole point is that you can't get rid of mistakes so you have to keep going and then edit them out kater in pen

[Anonymous No.21783474]

>>21762572
Antediluvian?
And you think a typewriter is pretentious.

[Anonymous No.21783625]

>>21783474
What's a better word? Antwacky?

[Anonymous No.21783741]

>>21762572
Get an electric one unless you know for sure you enjoy the classic ones.
I learned to type using an old Olivetti and it wasn't pleasant.

[Anonymous No.21783934]

>>21783057
Something else to note is that typewriter paper common at the time is nothing like copier paper. It's cheap, thin shit but pretty easy to lift and scrape things off of. More like a lighter weight bristol board. Some printer papers come close but this is an era where you used the thinnest paper you could get for airmail and there was a lot more variety to stationery in general. Most of the quality shit now is japanese and they don't have the same sensibilities or use cases when it comes to good paper.

[Anonymous No.21784007]

>>21762572
Hermes 2000 or 3000 for writing at home. Hermes Baby/Rocket for travel.

>>21764669
>Are you inspired by a piece of paper?
I think this ties into the ebook vs paper book arguments. Some people claim reading something on a piece of paper is more memorable and gives a stronger impression than reading it on a screen, but studies haven't really proven anything one way or the other. I think it's just a matter of taste. I like reading from a paper since it's what I'm used to but I'm getting more and more used to reading books from screens as well.

[Anonymous No.21784066]

>>21784007
I completely broke all that research in an unpublished study I couldn't get the funding for because it was too iconoclastic. I'll say you're right that taste plays a big role but it's the physical location of where a given leaf is in space that ties to memory and retention. For actually writing and editing, my guess is that a typewriter would be tied with like fucking mempad64 or another really basic tree chart full of wiki links. It's all about how you navigate it and organize that navigation in the mind.

[Anonymous No.21784183]

>>21784066
>it's the physical location of where a given leaf is in space that ties to memory and retention.
Yeah I agree, it gives a permanence to the words when they remain in the same location on the paper too.

[Anonymous No.21784347]

>>21784183
That was what the preliminary results showed. People (mostly PhDs who at least theoretically know an edition inside out) couldn't track and remember if the edition was different or modified. I couldn't get altering the formatting to work the way it does when you resize an epub and everything fucks up or I would have done that.

Let me repeat that. Professors couldn't remember the core books in their field if you fucked with the formatting. A pdf was just as bad as a new edition as far as the metrics. It didn't refresh their memory. Of something they generally know (also tested) to a horrifying level.

I didn't get much pdf or epub data from them or the usual victims but in a case study with an n of 6, some kind of ars memoria or oratorial skill is involved. Mind palaces. Ebookfags and article skimmers build mind palaces. They report more verbal reference points. Everyone else is mostly mapping like a cab driver, would be my guess. I got out that shit a few years ago.

[Anonymous No.21784367]

>>21779715
how does the spellcheck work there??

[Anonymous No.21784568]

>>21784347
That's really interesting, thanks anon.
>some kind of ars memoria or oratorial skill is involved. Mind palaces. Ebookfags and article skimmers build mind palaces.
Something I've noticed when I read ebooks is that I tend to subvocalize, or even read parts out loud if I'm alone, a lot more than when I read from paper.

[Anonymous No.21784755]

>>21783934
What other typewriter advice do you have and should I look for the thinnest printer paper I can find?

[Anonymous No.21784895]

>>21784755
>should I look for the thinnest printer paper I can find?
NTA but I use Mead typing paper. I think Amazon and some other paper stores still sell it. It's not as crazy thin as onionskin paper, but thinner than modern printing paper and with better texture so it's easier to erase if the typewriter uses a correction tape.

[Anonymous No.21785042]

>>21784895
This. I forgot they still made it for all those weird .gov jobs that still use it.

[Anonymous No.21785057]

How do you store and keep all the loose papers that you typed? Do you use a three hole punch and a folder or is there some other way to store them?

[Anonymous No.21785064]

>>21783625
outdated is a less pretentious word

[Anonymous No.21785210]

>>21784755
>>21784895
Just remember to use a backing sheet because most plattens have old rubber that can get damaged by the type slugs. I use construction paper, or you can just double or triple the sheets of paper you use.

[Anonymous No.21785223]

>>21785057
I buy cheap Hilroy paper that already has holes punched, but yes. Or you can use paperclips, staples, etc. Or just stack them in a pile. There are no rules.

[Anonymous No.21785231]

>>21785057
I like storage boxes

[Anonymous No.21785645]

How many pages to you guys type a day? I’m slow but typed twenty pages yesterday. Mich better than the last few times.

[Anonymous No.21785668]

>>21784367
It's preprogrammed with a dictionary of words and if you type something in that isn't in the list it "beeps" when you press space, alerting you to the fact that you spelled a word incorrectly.

[Anonymous No.21785681]

>>21785057
Type on continuous feed paper and roll them up on a scroll roller.

[Anonymous No.21785685]

>>21777403
wish i could salvage a typewriter from a dump
it's all mechanical so doesn't get fucked like electronic circuits
would have fun restoring it then going clickity clack on it for no reason because i don't write

[Anonymous No.21785810]

>>21785645
20 shit sentences a day help

[Anonymous No.21785871]

>>21785685
You'd be shocked at how many typewriter collectors do just that. Lots of people don't think a manual typewriter has value and just chuck them out when granpa dies.

[Anonymous No.21786026]

>>21780152
The Prince of Nothing and A Song of Ice and Fire were written on computers.

[Anonymous No.21786058]

>>21786026

[Anonymous No.21786066]

>>21786058
Go jack off to On the Road or Blood Meridian, sophomore.

[Anonymous No.21786078]

>>21786066
I jack off to Gene Wolfe

[Anonymous No.21786086]

>>21786078
Those books look unread.
Go read Beyond the Wall of Sleep in that Lovecraft collection.

[Anonymous No.21786263]

>>21783741
how do you find toner for these? you don't type anyhing either

[Anonymous No.21786276]

>>21782767
You hit the backspace, which moves you back one character, and type a big X on the typo, or a =. You can also use white-out, and people who used typewriters had little white correction strips that you'd put over the bad character and then hammer over, so that they'd impress the same character on the page but in white. Every seen those thin round blue erasers with a hole in the middle? They're typewriter erasers.
All of this is effectively as impractical as it seems, and the fact that nobody here gave you an actual answers shows that none of the peopel who buy typewriters actually uses them.

[Anonymous No.21786595]

>>21786086
That's the one about the ultraterestrial being living in a man's dreams, yeh?

[Anonymous No.21786782]

>>21786276
There is type writers that erase/de-ink the letter you mistyped into a word by is impossible/hard to fix when you go downwards on a new blank line.

[Anonymous No.21787102]

>>21785064
I have never heard that word before.
Sound superannuated.

[Anonymous No.21787131]

How fragile are typewriters and how hard are they to fix when they break?

[Anonymous No.21787542]

>>21787131
Mechanical Typewriters, especially all-metal constructed ones, can survive an atomic blast, but like anything mechanical be willing to tinker with them when something minor needs fixing. Leonard Cohen took his into the bath, had a temper tantrum and flung it across the room. Took it to a typewriter repairman and it was good as new. These days only major cities might have a repair shop so be willing to learn the basics of how they work. A carriage that doesn't return is the biggest pain in the ass, but keys that stick is relatively easy to fix.

[Anonymous No.21788243]

>>21787542
Damn. Have you refurbished any typewriters anon?

[Anonymous No.21788412]

>>21788243
I wouldn't call it refurbishing but I've fixed up a couple. Most just need a thorough cleaning to get back to spec. Even if a typewriter has been kept nice dust can get in there. But I have spoken with people who do the full overhaul. They even send out parts to get new rubber put on. So if you really don't want to fuck with the typewriter before you can use it, save your dimes and get a refurbished one from an actual typewriter repair shop. There's still a couple out there.

[Anonymous No.21788423]

>>21762572
>pretentious and antediluvian

Uh huh. I can see that "pretentious" is something you avoid.

[Anonymous No.21789107]

>>21788423
Yes, it is.

[Anonymous No.21789487]

>>21788412
I am looking at one that the seller just needs a new ribbon. How would I make sure when testing it that this is the only issue? What should I look out for and test?

[Anonymous No.21789552]

>>21789487
Do a typing test to make sure all the keys work well, with and without shift/capslock, make sure the ribbon advances, the carriage moves, the bell works. If it has a ribbon selector (black, stencil, red is usually the modes) try both black and red (you'll never use stencil). If it has any functions like tabs, test them out. Look up the manual for that model to get the gist of how it works so you can properly assess how well it operates in comparison (also to know how to change the ribbon if you do take it home). You might even find a video of someone using it on youtube or a review.

[Anonymous No.21789565]

>>21789552
To add: make sure when you're testing it you don't accidentally have the carriage lock on, I made that mistake and felt like a retard. The manual will tell you where it is.

[Anonymous No.21789772]

>>21762890
very because you haven't used it

[Anonymous No.21789778]

>>21779567
>I placed in a contest with a story I wrote on my 1920’s Underwood, so suck it
was it the contest to win a typewriter?
if so, fuck you. I wanted to win

[Anonymous No.21789798]

publishers aren't taking anything not typed on a computer these days

[Anonymous No.21789835]

>>21789772
I just did though... ;_;

[Anonymous No.21789971]

>>21789778
No, it was to win money.
I got honorable mention.

[Anonymous No.21790009]

>>21789798
Doesn’t Stephen King still use his old as bricks typewriter? Also, I don’t see why not. Even so, it won’t be hard to just printer scan them and then give them with their computer added touch to publish.

[Anonymous No.21790243]

>>21789798
OCR software is a thing. Your phone can probably do it. You'll have to go over your manuscript to fix any janky ocr mistakes but you should anyway before you send it out.

[Anonymous No.21790718]

Is a Hermes Baby or Olympia SM4 a better typewriter?

[Anonymous No.21790925]

>>21790718
Probably the SM4. I don't own one myself though, but from what I've read it's often considered one of the best and an all-around great machine. The Baby is great for its size though, it weighs only a fraction of an SM4, and if it still has the case you can easily carry it anywhere.

[Anonymous No.21792261]

What's the benefit of using a typewriter instead of just a pen and paper?

[Anonymous No.21792398]

>>21792261
There is no way to get rid of errors while writing, you just have to press forwards. On top of that you have a copy of each edit (which you can go over in pen before your next attempt). It esentially quickens the editing process.

[Anonymous No.21792518]

>>21792261
just get a freewrite like me, bro!
>>21762890

[Anonymous No.21792536]

>>21792261
I've done both. I like pen and paper for poems, brainstorming, journaling, short pieces. But for large projects, I prefer to type it out. Each process puts me in a different headspace. Plus, the clack clack clack ding! is very satisfying.