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22039553 No.22039553 [Reply] [Original]

What is philosophy?

>> No.22039572

Hey there, little buddy! So, philosophy is like a super-duper fancy word that grown-ups use to talk about things that are really, really deep and mysterious. It's like when you ask questions like "Why is the sky blue?" or "What happens when we sleep?" Philosophy tries to understand the big, big questions about the universe and everything in it.

You know how sometimes you wonder about things that you can't see or touch? Like dreams, or feelings? Well, philosophy is all about trying to understand those things that are invisible or hard to explain. It's like a big adventure where we try to figure out what the world is made of and how it all fits together.

But, you know, on 4chan, they like to have fun and joke around a lot. So sometimes they might say silly things or make memes about philosophy. It's all part of the fun, but remember, it's important to keep an open mind and be curious about the big questions in life, even if they seem a bit strange sometimes.

So, keep being curious, little buddy! The world is full of wonders, and philosophy is just one way grown-ups try to understand them.

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>Hey there, little buddy! So, philosophy is like a super-duper fancy word that grown-ups use to talk about things that are really, really deep and mysterious. It's like when you ask questions like "Why is the sky blue?" or "What happens when we sleep?" Philosophy tries to understand the big, big questions about the universe and everything in it.
>You know how sometimes you wonder about things that you can't see or touch? Like dreams, or feelings? Well, philosophy is all about trying to understand those things that are invisible or hard to explain. It's like a big adventure where we try to figure out what the world is made of and how it all fits together.
>But, you know, on 4chan, they like to have fun and joke around a lot. So sometimes they might say silly things or make memes about philosophy. It's all part of the fun, but remember, it's important to keep an open mind and be curious about the big questions in life, even if they seem a bit strange sometimes.
>So, keep being curious, little buddy! The world is full of wonders, and philosophy is just one way grown-ups try to understand them.

>> No.22039584

>>22039572

Imagine being such a intellectually bankrupt retard that you have to ask chatgpt to shitpost for you.

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>>22039553
Women should not be allowed to study philosophy or they end up desecrating it. Women ruin every field they're allowed to gain the tiniest amount of influence over and philosophy and the sciences are too important for that risk.

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>>22039553
>What is philosophy?
a fucking joke and complete waste of time

ever since mathematics and physics separated themselves from philosophy, philosophy has been >>>/x/ tier ghost stories with zero predictive power, a magnet for pseuds, midwits and retards who will never be smart but want to feel like it
its an academic cargo cult, just like those
primitives were building airplanes out of sticks and leaves, philosophy is publishing academic papers trying to emulate scientific papers

you have to be an absolute fucking retard to touch philosophy in the 21st century

>> No.22039592

>>22039553
>Holding a pen to take notes
>At a hotel swimming pool in Mallorca or another sun drenched partytown
I don't expect much from women but they do be funny lil niglets.

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i hate women

>> No.22039602

>>22039553
most "philosophy" is either categorics (misnamed phenomenology) or logic (which gets its ground from categorics). What remains is merely metaphysics, which is merely the science of Being qua Being, which is the only place eternal truths lie. Besides metaphysics, logic, and categorics, there is mathematics and empirical science, and then there is pseudophilosophy and pseudophilosophy. pseudophilosophy comprises about 75% of all "philosophy" ever written and it consists either of religious mysticism taken through a poor battery of dialectic to give it an air of truth or existential nonsense. ethics is not a field of philosophy because ethics springs from instinct and cannot be rationalized.

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Alright, philosotrannies, fill in the blanks:

"In science I encountered _____ but ONLY thanks to my philosophy education I realized that _____"

>> No.22039614

>>22039588
Mathematics is only meaningful because of philosophy.

>> No.22039615

>>22039610
In science I encountered many truths about the world, but ONLY thanks to my philosophy education I realized that they were the mere opinion of mortals in which there is no true warranty rather than the unshaken heart of persuasive truth.

>> No.22039621

>>22039594
>eew. woman trying to learn? I hate women!
the elephant loves them. s/he was playing

>> No.22039628

>>22039553
Just by opening that book and looking in it, she has read more than a lot of /lit/. Let that sink in

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>>22039615
Where is this from?

>> No.22039639

>>22039628
She really hasn't. To be living as a being is to read even if there is no text; she could read that whole book but if her life had no way to actualize the material, it would be for nothing. She's a slut through and through, precisely because her reading the book is performative, for the *shot*, the glamor of it all. She's a slut through and through and for that she deserves to be plowed like the cow she is.

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>>22039635
https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Fragments_of_Parmenides

>> No.22039647

>>22039635
>Other Humanities & Art
>Humanities & Art
what?

>> No.22039650

>>22039639
Are you the incel crusader in every other thread screeching about women? It’s time to take a break from the interwebs

>> No.22039656

>>22039635
>Higher
>all those Others that mean nothing
This list really is the dumbest shit you could come up with. Philosophy and literature stay king.

>> No.22039661

>>22039650
I don't know who that is but I'll gladly take up that role. She's a slut; by any other distinguishing she would be a slut. Reading by performance is a call for attention which is the essence of being a slut.

>> No.22039664

>>22039572
I can't decide which is worse, the tone in which this is written or the insistence on grasping the meaning of philosophy in purely ontic terms.

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>philosophy of mind
Made no progress beyond Descartes. The hard problem of consciousness remains unsolved.
>ontology
After more than 3000 years of philosophical discourse they still can't define existence.
>logic
Is a field of math nowadays, not understood anymore by philosotards
>ethics
Literally just unqualified subjective opinions. Any wagie on the street can have a stance on ethics and it's just as valid and qualified as a philosophy professor's stance.
>metaphysics
Basically solved by CTMU (written by a non-philosopher). Beyond that it's no better than religion.
>epistemology
Cannot define knowledge, cannot define truth. Autists endlessly caught in the definition game without even being able to name the subject
they're allegedly researching.
>philosophy of science
Low IQ morons falsely deluding themselves into illusions of intellectualisms over describing a process which is literally trivial to anyone who actually studied science.

>> No.22039668

War.

>> No.22039669

>>22039656
I posted it as proof that philosophy is up there with the big-brain math and physics. But yeah it's pretty shitty.
>>22039643
Thanks, I always found his fragments incredibly difficult to read.

>> No.22039678

>>22039667
You've done it. You've solved philosophy. Well done. Fuck Hegel; his work was for nothing. He's been refuted by the absoluteness of this post on 4chan. You've completely negated his years of thought and his work; well done. You've out-Hegeled Hegel with your ostentatious rationality. You've done it; this is the post I'll be returning to to reassure myself of the futility of all thought and reasoning. This is it. Can I have your autograph? It'd be grand for my grandchildren; might you spare me your signature, sire?

>> No.22039682

>>22039669
just skip the chariot part idk why it's translated into archaic english

>> No.22039684

>>22039585
>>22039592
>>22039594
Chud.
>>22039614
False.
>>22039678
Cringe

>> No.22039690

>>22039614
we build fast planes and tall buildings and powerplants using mathematics

>> No.22039693

>>22039690
wasteful toys

>> No.22039696

>>22039684
Lol

>> No.22039703

>>22039693
they improve quality of life

>> No.22039704

>>22039684
>>22039690
Fast planes and tall buildings and power plants aren't the higher truths, though. You're still trapped in representation and tautology. You're building things out of things out of things out of fucking things. One thing goes here into another thing without resolution. One formula relates this property to another property without ever telling us what those properties are AS fucking properties in themselves for FUCK'S SAKE, man.

>> No.22039710

>>22039704
so what. that's just a bunch of meaningless nonsense

>> No.22039716

>>22039553
a pretext for monoculture womanposting

>> No.22039717

>>22039703
lol no

>> No.22039731

>>22039669
What's the source of that image? And what's the sample? Is it undergrad or grad students?

>> No.22039741

>>22039585
true because all female philosophers center their studies around their cunts, a very egoistic form of intellectual masturbation. either contribute to world systems or fuck off.

>> No.22039742

>>22039661
Whatever makes you happy

>> No.22039746

>>22039602
Metaphysics is an entirely nonsensical and obsolete field. While it is already cringeworthy that metaphysics fails to answer its own questions, it is even worse that metaphysics fails even harder at phrasing its questions in such a way that they become meaningfully answerable in the first place. Upon closer examination all of metaphysics appears to be wordcel confusion ("language games") dating back to a primitive late bronze age understanding of the world propagated by ancient Greek midwits. The most legitimate answer to questions of "existence" (a horribly semantically overloaded word with no distinct philosophical meaning of its own) is ultimately and unironically "It just is, okay?"

>> No.22039748

>>22039746
you are ignorant. metaphysics has answered its own questions.

>> No.22039749

>>22039588
nice bait
many of the greatest philosophers (even among wildly opposed traditions) were also mathematicians.
Physics is for poojeet codemonkeys and stemcels

>> No.22039750

>>22039588
actual npc

>> No.22039758

>>22039731
Random googling they don’t look too high to me. 40% of population go to university and selection is quite efficient so would expect median degree holder to be around 20% percentile ~112. Look like undergrad.

>> No.22039760

Some gayreek faggot from Miletus called Philo wanted to impress some thiasus chick called Sophie so he decided to make some random shit up about the composition of the world. Since he was horny and could only think about her wet vagina, he told her the world was wholly made out of water. He managed to score. Next time they met he wanted something more kinky: this time, he told her the world was made of a generic roteating substance called the "apeiron", undoubtedly a fusion of the negative "a-" with the verb "peirao", which meant "try hard". In other words, he was a lazy faggot who wanted an easy way to fuck and decided to name the concept he invented after this. Either way, that night he indeed managed to 69 her. The third and last time they met, he had developed a brap fetish and thus tried to convince her to fart on him by telling her the world was made out of air. Unfortunately that braphog was lactose intolerant, but had still decided to have a feta-based dinner. The sheer strength and potency of those whiffs were too much for poor fag Philo to handle: he died intoxicated but happy. Such a laughable death to the locals became a mystery to the rest of the gayreeks, fascinating mostly females. In order to appeal to their spiritual sensibilities then, all future would-be-philos decided adopt his methods and to spin his death as the result of some trascendental event, thus starting philosophy as we know it.

>> No.22039769

>>22039717
yes they do. technological innovations pull people out of poverty and starvation. the rise in unhappiness and mental illness is not a corollary of tech advancement, that's a consequence of stupid philosophers vainly pursuing a higher truth

>> No.22039771

>>22039588
>zero predictive power
This is the key. Until you're ready to put your money where your mouth is, your philosophical treatise is nothing but the material cause of a future cardboard box. Someone who doubles his money in the stock market (honestly, and not through market manipulation) is more impressive than any philosopher.

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>>22039760
>pic related philo's last moments

>> No.22039781

>>22039771
philosophy doesn't make predictions because it is about truths that are eternally present and never change. obviously that makes them practically irrelevant.

>> No.22039784

>22039667
fuck off Langan shill

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>>22039769
LOL good bait

>> No.22039798

>>22039614
>>22039615
>>22039678
>>22039748
>>22039749
>>22039750
>>22039781
The amount of seethe + cope itt is UNREAL

Philosophy is an optional advanced learning method, it helps us better understand what we already know by telling us if something, is, or is not true Philosophy NEVER discovers anything.

>> No.22039799

>>22039795
>define ownership
>define happiness
>my wife's boyfriend bought me Zelda volume 99
why do people take Cuckstiny seriously?

>> No.22039810

>>22039710
It's really not. You just haven't gone through enough philosophy yet to get it.
>>22039742
Empty tautological nothingness and thus void.
>>22039798
You've got it backwards; math NEVER discovers anything except itself: philosophy discovers the non-discovery of math.

>> No.22039813

>>22039798
>Philosophy NEVER discovers anything
it tells you what you already experience. just because you are always experiencing something, doesn't mean you have knowledge about it. Like I said, its truths are eternally present and never change. Do you want to say that physics never discovers anything because we are already living in the physical world with all its laws?

>> No.22039817

>>22039583
thats the joke retard. Get a new meme

>> No.22039831

>>22039553
The ultimate integrator, validator and justifier of all forms of human knowledge.

>> No.22039839

>>22039795
the world is trending in that direction because of politics which is a school of philosophy. not because computer chips are getting better

>> No.22039843

Philosophy is this board's biggest cope. "I may [work a 9-5 job at Mcdonald's/spend all day in my
mom's basement] but at least some guy 2000 years ago told me that it's okay to believe in god even though he's fake and that that there's objectively no such thing as a chair"

>> No.22039848

>>22039810
>You just haven't gone through enough philosophy yet to get it
and i never will. why should i

>> No.22039854

>>22039585
Women literally cannot do philosophy so if you see one near some philosophy you should shoo her away like a wasp. There is NO REASON for her to be there.

>> No.22039856

>>22039843
How fallacious of you to think that ideas are any less valid when people who are in lower positions than you hold them. How fallacious and silly; how stupid and fallacious. Where do you get off?
>>22039848
So grovel in your own silly ridiculousness, peon.

>> No.22039858

>>22039848
you shouldn't. there is no reason to study philosophy if you don't care about it. it is pursued for itself.

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>>22039843
>be le me
>read philosophy, expecting deep intellectual insights
>turns out it's trivial bullshit I already thought of when I was in elementary school
>literally nothing of value
>every philosophical argument seems cringeworthy since I can already debunk it with my own arguments before I finish reading
Why is this retard shit hyped so much? Are people really that dumb?

>> No.22039865

>>22039861
might I inquire what did you read sir?

>> No.22039889

>>22039865
mostly Aristotle (the biggest namefag in history)

I seriously can't think of anyone else who is cited so much for being so wrong. Euclid and Archimedes did math and engineering and got provably correct results. Aristotle did none of that. All he did was bloviate. His model of the cosmos was wrong. His biological classification scheme was wrong. His
theory of the four elements was wrong. He argued against Democritus that matter was infinitely divisible, and was wrong (granted, they were both
arguing from first principles and neither had any evidence to prove his case, but Aristotle still guessed wrong). Aristotle's greatest accomplishment was that everything he said about the natural world was wrong.

In general, all of the Greek philosophers are greatly overrated and it was justice when Rome rolled in and conquered them because the Romans were far more impressive in their works of engineering and in their statecraft. Fuck Aristotle. Stupid ass bitch.

>> No.22039903

>>22039741
Retard, politics itself is not philosophy, it's basic human behaviour. The academic study of politics is part of philosophy.

>> No.22039909

>>22039889
>actually advocating for the Greeks getting conquered
You're so naive and oblivious. God bless you for your ignorance. Without Aristotle there would be no Hegel, no James Joyce, no Parmenides, no Locke, no Wittgenstein, no "I" as an *I/eye*.

>> No.22039910

>>22039553
it's a book used to attract dumb coomheads

>> No.22039925

>>22039553
das freiwillige Leben in Eis und Hochgebirge

>> No.22039926

>>22039889
Aristotle said incorrect things, but he made many correct biological observations and invented it as a discipline. are you seriously going to criticize him for making incorrect biological observations when he was literally the only one making observations in that way at all at the time? and again, he made many correct observations. he also invented logic. it sounds like you got filtered. Aristotle is a difficult philosopher to read because of his technical writing style.

>> No.22039932

>>22039889
Getting mad at Aristotle for not "discovering" your faggot funko pops modern scientism (which will look equally retarded in the future, although it won't endure for thousands of years like Aristotle did) is as stupid as getting mad at your grandfather for not filling the house you inherited from him with pictures of naked male niggers like you have put up, because "all he did" was clear the land and build the house itself. Modern science grew up out of Aristotelian-Averroist natural science in the 13th and 14th centuries.

You have a puny soul only good for gazing upon niggers and clapping.

>> No.22039936

>>22039932
LOL

>> No.22039940

>>22039910
>coomheads
Are you actually creaming your pants at this image?
The nerve of you calling other people "coomhead". It's just a pretty woman learning shit. Get over it.

>> No.22039955

>>22039926
>and invented it as a discipline
he came up with the idea of scientifically observing plants and animals? what a nonachievement

>> No.22039958

>>22039955
>>22039955
>>22039955
then why did nobody ever do it before? why did only the west realize the fruits of empirical science?

>> No.22039970

>>22039958
because he was born 3000 years ago when people hadn't realized everything obvious yet. if he hadn't someone else would have

>> No.22039972

>>22039572
>>22039583
>>22039584
>>22039817
TOPKEK

>> No.22039975

>>22039970
Yes, anon, and if you weren't the biggest faggot this board has ever known, someone else would be. But you are.

>> No.22039982

>>22039970
if it's obvious why didn't China or India do it when they had civilization and writing? it's not obvious. you think it's obvious because you were raised in modern culture. just like you think it's obvious that 2 + 3 = 5 when in reality primitive people who were never taught math have trouble cognizing such a fact.

>> No.22040000

>>22039955
Literally yes you retard. He also came up with the entire idea of "science" (scientia, a calque of theoria, which means noetic contemplation adequate to a field of natural phenomena and presented as a parsimonious series of true statements). He came up with or at least formalized half of the technical language (techne - as distinct from episteme - another concept formalized by Aristotle) we use today, including essence, all our abstract language surrounding being/beings, etc. He invented the terms and technical vocabularies of physics and kinetics in the modern sense. And he did all of this because his life's mission was to systematize the acquisition and efficient sharing of knowledge of the world, in a single complete body of knowledge.

The difference between you and Aristotle is this. Aristotle stood before the totality of being, physis, with a clear and empty mind, and within the span of one lifetime created the entire ideal of "science" as we know it today and as it has endured for 2350 years. You could go back to that same moment and stand side by side with Aristotle with a head full of modern notions, and all the benefit of a headstart of 2350 extra years, and the most you would think to do is google stuff by asking google full sentence questions because you don't even understand how a search engine works because you are retarded. But first you would click the little "+" and I'd say "whoa, dude, what are you doing?" And you'd say "opening a new tab so I can search." And I'd say "dude, hit ctrl+t. What are you, a woman?" Then I'd look over at Aristotle and we'd exchange knowing glances of disappointment in you.

>> No.22040006

i maintain it was obvious

>> No.22040011

>>22040000
Based as fuck and nice quads.

>> No.22040013

>>22040000
anti-aristotlefag blown the fuck out

>> No.22040019

Plato is the reason "What is a woman?" is even being asked.

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>>22040000
decent get

>> No.22040113

>>22040000
Gigabased and theoria-pilled. That poor woman died.

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>only NEETs schizos and general weirdos are increasingly only people left caring about philosophy in modern society

What is the endgame of this? Some citadel of autists defending their strongholds of books against hordes of NPCs in the end days?

>> No.22040259

>>22040250
I am none of those but I only care about philosophy I can use on an everyday basis. Do I count?

>> No.22040278

>>22040250
it was always autists and neets
ancient greece was the neet society when you can just own slaves and a plot of family land

>> No.22040283

>>22039889

Matter being infinitely divisible has not been proven

>> No.22040321

>>22040283

disproven*

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>>22039553

love of wisdom

>> No.22040489

>>22039932
Damn that’s brutal. Thanks for typing it out though I was going to say it if someone didn’t

>> No.22040496

>>22040019
Plato knows what a woman is he knows what a woman is not.

It’s a total rejection of Plato that asks what is a woman. It’s not a universal truth it’s your truth. That’s post modernism

>> No.22040546

>>22039553
Of course she has a fucking pen to annotate

>> No.22040628

>>22040546
She even annotated the back cover

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>>22040546
>>22040628
Is there a problem here gentlemen?

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>>22039553
An active praxis that is supposed to bring one into closer union with the divine. This means that 99% of the "philsophy" written since the Greeks isn't actually philosophy at all, lmao.

>> No.22040783

>>22039610
In science I encountered phenomena, but only thanks to philosophy have I realized that my perception of said phenomena, and thus the the events themselves, are subject to and affected by observation. The famous Weizmann institute electron experiment proves that we shape our reality at the smallest level, and thus at every level. Philosophy is the search for the ultimate cause, ironically this search is best conducted through physical effort, it being one and the same in differing degrees as philosophy you materialist faggot.

>> No.22040788

>>22040000
Fucking checked. Screencapping this.

>> No.22040792

>>22039553

mostly sophistry, fiiiiiiiii dem

>> No.22040796

>>22040755
Pretty much this. Except for Hegel he’s cool too.

>> No.22040797

>>22040250
>philosophy is only when nerds read books

>> No.22040812
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>>22040000
>But first you would click the little "+" and I'd say "whoa, dude, what are you doing?" And you'd say "opening a new tab so I can search." And I'd say "dude, hit ctrl+t. What are you, a woman?"
T-That's a thing?...

>> No.22040814

>>22040812
What are you, a woman?

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>>22040812
also ctrl+shift+t opens up the last tab you closed
I don't know how people live without that

>> No.22040825

>>22039553
its a cope for cucks like religion

>> No.22040940

>>22039635
120 IQ lit Chad here.
Where are you at bros?

>> No.22040963

>>22039588
>Gives up the only thing that allows him to be a player character in the age of poo and automation
>NPC cope
>NGMI

>> No.22040985

this >>22039903 was for >>22039839

>> No.22040988

>>22040940
4

>> No.22040989

>>22040783
based

>> No.22041002

>>22040783
What happens if I metaphysically punched you in your face with my fist reshaping the reality of your nose?

>> No.22041189

pure scam

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>>22040000
I decide whether to click the little + or ctrl+t depending on whether the mouse pointer is closer to the + than my hands are from the ctrl key.

Pls no bully

>> No.22041484

>>22039572
>>22039583
>>22039584
big stinky poop :)
>>22039588
>>22039592
>>22039594
stinky fart :)

>> No.22041549

>>22039614
Yeah I'm sure the mathematician solving Szekere's theorem via cohomological diharmonic M-rings is worried about the philosophical implications of his work

>> No.22041566

>>22040628
Fuck I didn't even notice, this made my day.

>> No.22041649

kys fag

>> No.22041651

>>22039781
>it is about truths that are eternally present and never change
Then how come the entire history of philosophy is nothing but philosophers refuting each other???

>> No.22041656

>>22039553
>heel and sole of her foot is a rest for her vag and asshole
Please m'lady, I implore you, just a singular lick, a mere taste of thine odorous essence to quell the burning of mine yearning.

>> No.22041741

>>22041651
Because they often use poor logic to tru and understand the truth. Like I said, just because the truth is always being experienced doesn’t mean we have knowledge of it.

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>> No.22041940

That foot is pure perfection, damn.

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>A man becomes a philosopher by reason of a certain perplexity, from which he seeks to free himself. This is Plato's θαυμαξειν, which he calls a μαλα φιλοσοφικον παθος. But what distinguishes the false philosopher from the true is this: the perplexity of the latter arises from the contemplation of the world itself, while that of the former results from some book, some system of philosophy which is before him. Now Fichte belongs to the class of the false philosophers. He was made a philosopher by Kant's doctrine of the thing-in-itself, and if it had not been for this he would probably have pursued entirely different ends, with far better results, for he certainly possessed remarkable rhetorical talent.

>Neither our knowledge nor our insights are ever especially increased by comparing and discussing what is said by another, for that is always merely like pouring water from one container into another. Only through one’s own consideration of things themselves can insight and knowledge really be increased, for it alone is the ever ready and ever proximate living source. Accordingly it is curious to observe how would-be philosophers are always busy on the first path and seem not to know the other at all; how they are always occupied with what this person said, and with what that person might have meant, so that they are constantly tipping over containers, as it were, to see if maybe some little drop might remain. Meanwhile the living source flows neglected at their feet. Nothing betrays their incapacity quite so much as this, and gives the lie to their affected air of importance, profundity and originality.

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>>22041984
>The ordinary book philosopher relates to someone who thinks for himself as the historian relates to an eye witness; the latter speaks from his own direct interpretation of the matter. This is why at bottom all who think for themselves are basically in agreement, and their difference arises only as one of standpoint; but where this does not change anything, they all say the same thing. For they are merely stating what they have objectively apprehended. Often I was pleasantly surprised afterwards to find formulations in ancient works by great men of propositions that I had hesitated to bring before the public because of their paradoxical nature. – The book philosopher on the other hand recounts what this man said, what that one meant and then again what another objected and so on. This he compares, evaluates and criticizes, thus attempting to get at the truth of things, and in the process he becomes quite similar to the historian. So for instance he will launch investigations on whether Leibniz might ever have been a Spinozist for a while and so forth ... Herbart ... – One might be amazed by the great effort such a man takes, since it seems that if only he tried to focus on the matter itself, he would soon reach his goal with a bit of thinking for himself. Only there is a small drawback here, insofar as this does not depend on our will; we can sit down and read at any time, but not sit down – and think.

>To read all kinds of expositions of the doctrines of the philosophers, or in general the history of philosophy, instead of reading their own original works is like letting somebody else chew our food. Would anyone read world history if we were free to watch with our own eyes the events of former times that interest us? Now in respect to the history of philosophy such an autopsya of the subject is actually available, namely in the original writings of the philosophers. At any rate, we can then limit ourselves, for the sake of brevity, to well-chosen principal chapters, the more so as they all abound in repetitions, which we can spare ourselves. In this way we will get to know the essence of their doctrines in authentic and unadulterated form, whereas from the half dozen histories of philosophy that now appear every year we merely receive what entered the head of a philosophy professor, and in the form in which it there appears at that. It goes without saying that the thoughts of a great mind are bound to shrink considerably in order to fit into the three-pound-brain of such a parasite of philosophy, out of which they are then to emerge again, clothed in the respective jargon of the day, accompanied by his precocious judgement.
t. schopenhauer

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>>22039639
>To be living as a being is to read even if there is no text

>> No.22042139

>>22041940
Yeah it is notably good

>> No.22042151

>>22039553
Philosophy becomes obsolete when boobies and pussy

>> No.22042166

>>22039667
>CTMU solved metaphysics
Why do you even post?

>> No.22042188

love of rhetoric. people who love to talk a lot because they have no brain inside just a lot of fucking fur

>> No.22042194

>>22042134
Kek

>> No.22042199

>>22039553
Philosophy is the process of examining the premise, resolving contraditions, hypothesizing about final results, questioning motives and testing our theories.
Philosophy is not about creaming yourself in pure word play.

>> No.22042203

>>22039856
They're definitely less valid when people move to lower positions from higher positions as a result of those ideas

>> No.22042222

>>22040669
Yeah I hate those chairs, that building, the setup, swimwear and I hate her face

>> No.22042228

>>22039704
False

>> No.22042321

>>22041002
People love to talk shit, but they always get reeeeeal polite when they meet me in person. I wonder why that is...

>> No.22042511

>>22039610
In science I encountered an amoral infatuation with corporeal matter falsely presented as the path of betterment for humanity but ONLY thanks to my philosophy education I realized that all women should have their rights revoked and never again reinstated.

>> No.22042515

>>22042321
Because they pity you lmao.

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>>22039704

>> No.22043103

>>22039553
it is a βιος, just like having sexy girlfriends

>> No.22043134

>>22039610
In science I encountered the Faustian push towards technological supremacy, the fetishism of complexity and the transformation of human life as we know it, but ONLY thanks to my philosophy education did I realize that the elimination of suffering/transformation of human life through technology is not equivalent to good.

>> No.22043142

>>22041549
>bugman calculators slave or meaningless retarded abstract problem.
Wow, whoopty fucking do

>> No.22043152

>>22039553
It's what happens when you stop POSTING GODLESS JEZEBELS

>> No.22043729

>>22042222
Checked and based

>> No.22044670

>>22041988
/lit/ btfo

>> No.22044852

Why the fuck would you read a book about ancient philosophy, instead of just reading ancient philosophy?

>> No.22044935

>>22044852
All those poor college professors writing that second-hand slob need money

>> No.22044965

In the current year when people say philosophy they mean metaphysics.
The examination of intangible truth through reason.

There are other branches of philosophy not concerned with intangible truth but most are dead or unknown in western culture. Naturalism, numerical divination, cosmology, egoism, the theory of forms.

For instance the study of rocks to determine the perfect form of rock. Very Chinese.
The study of the numbers in the bible to work a new OS, trying to use the numbers in a calendar to work out when the world ends, using mathematical formula to predict the future.

I've been fortunate enough to meet some rare philosophers,

>> No.22045719

>>22040755
>An active praxis that is supposed to bring one into closer union with the divine.
that's religion

>religio
>religare
You know, Cicero, Lactantius, Tertullian, etc.

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>>22042515
>pity

>> No.22046449

>>22044852
Yeah dude why read a physics textbook when you can just read Newton's Principia Mathematica by yourself.

>> No.22046550

>>22039553
Thanks op, you got me in trouble with grandpa again. I opened your thumbnail whe he was walking by and saw it over my shoulder.
> "Who's this scantily clad whore? Yer girlfriend?"
>"no grandpa just some random girl someone posted on 4chan".
>"The what now?"
>"4chan"
>"well you tell this four chang chinaman his taste in girls aint half bad but if i catch 'im oggling white women again we'll drop another one on him and his gook pals you hear?"
>"yessir"
>"Anyhow how old are you now 13? 14?"
>"I'm twenty six"
> "That's funny son, now hows about I bring you down to the local whorehouse to get your dick wet?"
>I told him the "brothel"was raided back in the 60s due to violation of sex work laws and the closest one is in Tijuana.
>He muttered something about dyke feminists and how he ain't gonna go down to "spicland" just to get some pussy.
>I told him I don't want to have sex neither I just wanted to discuss literature and philosophy on /lit/
>he smacked me and told me im a disappointment but luckily I still have time since he thinks I'm 13 and he went to get his cane to whip me into shape

>> No.22046822

>>22042199
Checked but i feel there is some underlying irony here

>> No.22046950

>>22039553
she looks fertile.

>> No.22046965

>>22039553
literally "the love of arguing".

>> No.22046971

>>22039553
It is meta-cognition simply said.
Its thinging about thinking about reallity.
How do humans stand in relation to reallity would be better description.
It used to be expliration of nature of reallity too, but project of metaphysics failed misserably and produced science instead. Well you could argue that science is a form of thinking about reallity making it philosophy but you know
>muh scientific method
In summary, philosophy is the very act of thinking and act of revision of that thought. Primary modus of human rationality.

>> No.22047010

>>22046550
your post elicited minor discomfort followed by minor laughter. 6/10, continue posting, but keep a close eye on your tone. aim for, "no, I broke the dam!".

>> No.22047093

>>22044935
>he doesn't know Pierre Hadot (pbuh)

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>>22040000
whoever will screencap this, I was here. that tard got so btfo he didn't even respond anymore not even with a fucking meme lmao so hard rn

>> No.22047942

>>22039553
>time_wasting_bait_1.jpg
you all fell for it

>> No.22048451

>>22045719
Start with the greeks, faggot. Religion =/ the divine.

>> No.22048802

>>22039553
Why did she underline on the back of the book???

>> No.22048836

>>22040000
This is demonstrably false. Maybe science as a purely theoretical discipline, but not as a method to gain knowledge. That would be trail-and-error, something we've arguably been doing since we developed consciousness and became aware of not doing the same wrong thibg twice.

Also, the systemization of knowledge was already done by Shamans who were measuring the path of the sun in the sky, see 'How the Shaman Stole the Moon'.

Also, Aristotle's research on animals is utterly laughable and suffers hopelessly from the survivorship bias, something that wasn't corrected until Darwin came along.

Also, the idea that we need theory before we can do practice is laughable.

Also, relying solely on theory is called the ludic fallacy and is potentially disastrous.

Also, all this makes you an even bigger faggot than the idiot you're responding to

>> No.22048855

>>22039741
>t. somebody who probably cares a lot about and devotes a lot of attention and "study" to their skin colour and/or nationality
*yawn* You lot are just too predictable.

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>>22043142
>meaningless retarded abstract problem
So philosophy? lmao, every time philosophags attempt to slander mathematics they a fortiori slander philosophy. Oh fuck, bwahahahahahaha, this is just too precious. hoho.

>> No.22049363

>>22039553
HNNGHH FEET

>> No.22049677

>>22039553
Beautiful chick. Hadot is great author too.

Y'all are fags. I hope y'all are mostly in HS. I was an incel until college. But then I learned that girls were not only beautiful but as intelligent and deep as any man. Also getting laid helped fix my attitude. But ya. Ymmv

>> No.22049684

>>22049677
Oh and to answer your question OP, Hadot at least makes the argument that in the ancient world altho less so now philosophy was about living an enlightened life moreso than writing stuff down. I find it quite an inspiring take.

>> No.22049685

>>22039553
I could suck on her toes and soles for 20 hours straight

>> No.22049694

>>22049685
I would do it right after she got back from work every day

>> No.22049700

>>22049694
Same, until they don't smell like anything because I have washed them with my mouth

>> No.22049746

>>22039553
here's my key
philosophy
a freak like me
just needs infinity

>> No.22049854

>>22048802
so she would remember
it's active reading

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>>22039572
>Why is a tree good? Why is the sunset good? Why are boobs good?

>> No.22050225

>>22039909
Just because someone was influential doesn’t mean they’re right, dumbass
>>22039926
Neither of those are deep intellectual insights, they are practically worthless scientifically today besides their influence.
>>22039932
Classic /lit/ 4channer so influenced by reddit bashing he rejects modern science and rationality. Also makes the same mistake of conflating influence and correctness.

Guess whoever posted >>22039889 really triggered the artistotle fanboys. Imagine having to admit a kid who has read a few pop science books has gained more than you reading aristotle, BRUTAL

>> No.22050240

>>22048873
The only difference is mathematics actually comes to solutions

>> No.22050255

>>22040000
>aristotle was influential
Who gives a fuck?

>> No.22050328

>>22049854
But she underlined the authors name. Its on all sides of the book..

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>>22041656
>foot

>> No.22050792

>>22050788
>footfags*

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>>22050240
Holy fuck, it's OVER for philosophags.

>> No.22050853

scrolled ALL THE WAY to the BOTTOM of this fucking thread hoping for just ONE MORE titty
did I get even one more titty? no
then what, I ask you, was the point of my scrolling?

>> No.22051245
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Philosophy is just celebrity worship. Worshipping Plato or Kant or any other historical old white man is no different from worshipping Jordan Peterson or Andrew Tate today.
In science you have textbooks presenting contents independently of who discovered them. You can study quantum mechanics without needing to read original texts by Schrödinger, and in fact you don't even need to know his name when applying the equation he discovered. A textbook about philosophy on the other hand will always be a dry list of "Plato said this ... Nietzsche said that ..." Philosophy has produced no objective insights, philosophy is merely a collection of opinions from ancient meme influencers.
Studying philosophy is not just a waste of time, it's also the epitome of cuckoldism. There is no moral difference between "I let this other guy fill my wife's pussy with his cum instead of my own cum" and "I let this other guy fill my mind with his ideas instead of my own ideas". If you take philosophy and philosophers seriously you're just too immature to think for yourself.

>> No.22051378

>>22050225
I know the author anons start sperging about Aristotle as a scientist, but real question... why are you looking for scientific truths from a philosopher? Isn't that just wrong-headed and retarded.

>> No.22051706

>>22051245
If you worship a philosopher as a philosopher, you missed the point of philosophy and education.

>> No.22051772

>>22039553
Philosophy is the manipulation of language to confuse normalfags into doing what you want.

>> No.22051804

>>22050225
>inventing logic is not a deep intellectual insight
>invention biology is not a deep intellectual insight
what is a deep intellectual insight smart guy?

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>> No.22052509

But when Jesus was taken before Pilate, then the world of facts and the world truths were face to face in immediate and implacable hostility. It is a scene appallingly distinct and overwhelming in its symbolism, such as the world's history had never before and has never since looked at. The discord that lies at the root of all mobile life from its beginning, in virtue of its very being, of its having both existence and awareness, took here the highest form that can possibly be conceived of human tragedy. In the famous question of the Roman Procurator: "What is truth?"-- the one word [aletheia] that is race-pure in the whole Greek Testament-- lies the entire meaning of history, the exclusive validity of the deed, the prestige of the State and war and blood, the all-powerfulness of success and the pride of eminent fitness. Not indeed the mouth, but the silent feeling of Jesus answers this question by that other which is decisive in all things of religion-- What is actuality? For Pilate actuality was all; for him nothing. Were it anything, indeed, pure religiousness could never stand up against history and the powers of history

>> No.22052511

My kingdom is not of this world. [...] The born politician despises the inward thought-processes of the ideologue and ethical philosopher in a world of fact-- and rightly. For the believer, all ambition and succession of the historical world are sinful and without lasting value-- he, too, is right. A ruler who wishes to improve religion in the direction of political, practical purposes is a fool. A sociologist-preacher who tries to bring truth, righteousness, peace, and forgiveness into the world of actuality is a fool also. No faith yet has altered the world, and no fact can ever rebut a faith. There is no bridge between directional Time and timeless Eternity, between the course of history and the existence of a divine world-order, in the structure of which the word "providence" or "dispensation" denotes the form of causality. This is the final meaning of the moment in which Jesus and Pilate confronted one another. In the one world, the historical, the Roman caused the Galilean to be crucified-- that was his Destiny. In the other world, Rome was cast for perdition and the Cross became the pledge of Redemption-- that was the "will of God."

>> No.22052637

>>22040755
I love that fucking Balt like you wouldn’t believe

>> No.22053349

>>22039621
>implying she is actually reading
i can guarantee she threw the book away the moment the photo was clicked.