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>Writes four of the best novels ever written
Has anyone else come close?

>> No.22077952
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>> No.22078024

He’s the most overrated author I’ve ever read in my life. I honestly can’t understand why people like his books, let alone love them.

>> No.22078037

>>22078024
>t. ESL

>> No.22078168

His 4th best book is a steep drop from the other 3

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>Writes THE best 20 or so plays ever written
nothing personnel

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>>22078168

>> No.22078830

>>22078168
>>22077940
what are his four best books?

>> No.22078839

>>22078830
Light in August
Absalom, Absalom
The Sound and the Fury
As I Lay Dying

>> No.22079132

>>22078830
The Sound and the Fury
Absalom, Absalom!
Go Down, Moses
Collected stories

>> No.22080176

>>22078830
As I Lay Dying
Sound and the Fury
Absalom, Absalom!
The Hamlet

>> No.22080184

>>22078830
Light in the Hamlet
The Fury of Absalom
Sanctuary in the Dust
A Rose As Emily Lay Dying

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>> No.22080548

>>22077940
I am not a huge fan of his novels honestly but this nigga had great taste and style. They don't make Americans like this anymore.

>> No.22080554

>>22078830
Soldier's Pay
Mosquitoes
Uncollected Stories
The Reivers

>> No.22080566

McCarthy is better

>> No.22080859

>>22080566
He’s good but Faulkner I’d honestly say Sound and the Fury and Absalom, Absalom! are better than his best (Blood Meridian)

>> No.22080863

>>22080859
No

>> No.22080868

>>22078830
Well The Reivers and A Fable are obviously the top two since only they won Pulitzers

>> No.22081004

>>22077940
i simply could not get into the sound and the fury
the style was hard to follow and i couldn't figure out why I was supposed to care about any of the characters or what they're doing

>> No.22081007

>>22081004
Spoiler they're playing golf in the beginning.

>> No.22081020

>>22081007
no i mean i got almost halfway through iirc and still couldn't figure out precisely what the big conflict was and who's involved in it

>> No.22081031

>>22081020
The big conflict is the fall of the South

Anyway try reading As I Lay Dying, it's a lot more straightforward. It's also a good book to disprove people who think characters have to be "likeable" for a book to be good

>> No.22081064

>>22077952
First post, best post!

>> No.22081309

>>22077940
Joyce is better

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>>22081004
>muh characters
>muh plot

lol okay kid

>> No.22081563

>>22081004
They’re just having a nice time

>> No.22082181

>>22080566
Faulkner has more good books than McCarthy, and is more of an innovator.
Plus he can write women and ethnic minorities without embarrassing himself

>> No.22082185

>>22080566
HAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAH

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Dare I say it but the impression has been distinctly recieved, that a 'challenger', seems to have, from somewhere, 'appeared'

>> No.22082265

>>22082185
>he laughed insecurely

>> No.22082299

>>22082181
Faulkner's velvety negroes are embarrassing as hell. There is not an ounce of truth in Joe Christmas. McCarthy atleast avoids embarrassing himself like that. All Faulkner females are basically the same character over and over. It's a very reddit criteria anyway.
>more of an innovator
Name one thing Faulkner innovated.

>> No.22082310

>>22080566
>Trans women are, in fact, women and valid
Thanks, McCarthy, Stella Maris was totally worth the read…

>> No.22082333

>>22082310
That's not from Stella Maris though. Alicia is also a more interesting girl than Faulkner's run of the mill southern tomboy roastie.

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>a shook corncob stan appears

>> No.22082463

>>22082449
More like a lot of shook corncobby chroniclers appeared in response to one comment.

>> No.22083494

>>22082216
>lmao

>> No.22083714

>>22077940
Dostoyevsky
>TBK
>C&P
>Demons
>The Idiot
>Notes

>> No.22083718

>>22080863
Yes

>> No.22083723

>>22082299
>There is not an ounce of truth in Joe Christmas.
Same could be said about most McCarthy characters.

>> No.22083731

>>22083723
Like? Except two ofc.

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>>22077940
>Has anyone else come close?
Not just come close, but surpassed.

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>>22082216
Eternally BTFO'd

>> No.22084888

>>22084884
HAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
I love Faulkner. This comment makes him even better in my eyes. Glad I have all his books books.

>> No.22084971

>>22078024
The only people I've ever seen who didn't like Faulkner are people who fundamentally don't understand his novels. Take that as you will

>> No.22084979

>>22081004
The Sound and the Fury makes perfect sense when you understand that the first section of the novel is told from the perspective of a literal retard with a poor perception of time

>> No.22085079

>>22082333
Stella Maris is YA Sherlock tier writing.
Anyone telling themselves Alicia is a well written character is a blind Cormac stan unable to admit the great man might be capable of mistakes

>> No.22085089

>>22085079
Faulkner retard mad lmao. Better than another shitty mandrama about somebody fucking someone's sister.

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>>22077940
>But I do not like him

>> No.22085177

>>22085136
Noone asked

>> No.22085182

Are the Library of America editions worth buying?

>> No.22085998

>>22085182
they're okay but almost every other edition is superior in presentation

>> No.22086003

>>22085998
Lmao no
>>22085182
Yes, they’re best

>> No.22086020

>>22081314
fuck off you pseud cunt

>> No.22086037

>posturing prose
>terribly dull short stories
>insistent melodramatic tone desperate to seem profound
>ham fisted emotional manipulation
>confuses grim with beautiful
>villains are cliched southern gothic brand of selfish bigoted evil
>characters easily reducible to symbols
>literary tricks pulled off better both before and after him

>> No.22086043

>>22086037
Great job capturing McCarthy, m8. Could not have said it better myself

>> No.22086056

>>22083759
Absolutely based, anon. Totally agree.

>> No.22086070

>>22086056
Thanks. I wish more people could recognize Pynchon for the genius he is. He’s more on the Michelangelo and Beethoven level than justba great author.

>> No.22086076

>>22086070
Honestly, couldn’t have said it better myself. Pynchon is unlike any who came before.

>> No.22086148

>>22085182
Library of America is almost always the best edition of anything

>> No.22087792

>>22086043
Malding Faulkner cuck. There is only one terrible short story writer between the two.

>> No.22087798

>>22086076
He is like a cheap pulp mix of Burroughs and Joyce. There is nothing artistic about his work.

>> No.22087800

>>22077940
Dostoyevsky
Hemingway
Faulkner
Hamsun
Woolf
McCarthy

Off the top of my head these are the high floor high ceiling novelists for 3+ novels

>> No.22087812

>>22087800
uh…the Pynchmeister?

>> No.22087833

>>22087812
Kek. Just no. I forgot Austen though

>> No.22087853

>>22087833
He has nine masterpieces.

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>>22077940
I've never read him but I have heard of him in movies so he can't be that bad

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>> No.22089703

>>22082181
This is one of the worst things about Faulkner lol. His writing is quite sexist and racist. A lot of it is writing obviously white caricatures of "the good negro", but then there's also garbage like the treatment of the indigenous children at the end of The Town.

>> No.22089717

>>22084979
>uses an already out-dated model of mental disability to obfuscate his novel about looking at a little girl's muddy underwear

wow truly the great american novel

>> No.22089719

>>22089717
Why are corncob’s fangirls absolutely assblasted all the time? Try Dilating

>> No.22089779

>>22089717
What exactly about Benjy is an “outdated model”? A family friend of mine has a mentally disabled son who acts almost exactly like Benjy does in the book.

>> No.22089822

>>22089779
Maria Truchan-Tataryn has a good paper on this called "Textual Abuse: Faulkner’s Benjy"

>> No.22089878

>>22089822
What’s the gist of this paper? The free introductions I can find online seem to imply that the author is arguing that scholars conflating Benjy as a microchosm of being disabled is the problem.