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Is it actually worth reading, or is it just two hundred pages of logorrhea?
ESL here.

>> No.22167889

>>22167816
What language?

Also, I would say it's worth reading if you somehow empathize or at least relate with Holden in the first 5 chapters. The rest of the book will be about him, so there's no reason to read it if you don't like him.

>> No.22167902

>>22167816
I enjoyed it just for a dialog. It's a well written book, if you don't like Holden I doubt you'll enjoy it though.

>> No.22167944

>>22167889
First part is the worst part of the book. I think it peaks in the middle

>> No.22168263

>>22167816
worth it for the rape scene alone

>> No.22168273

>>22167816

It is the diagram of all proceeding "young adult" novels, from "I Never Loved Your Mind" to "Half-Blood Prince". Its aesthetic value is of a similar quality to the value of Vitruvian man, for that reason. It however does not stand apart from this influence, for the very same reason.

>> No.22168561

>>22168273
>It however does not stand apart from this influence, for the very same reason.
I know you think you're really smart but you never actually gave a reason for why the book is bad in and of itself

>> No.22168591

>>22167902
It's worth a read just for how it captures turn of the century young people slang. Its depiction of a New York that is now long dead and gone is enchanting as well. I like Holden a lot and don't understand the annoyance people have for the character but I read it a little older than most at 23. It's easy to give him a pass when you've had a while to reflect on your own 15 year old self. He's a good kid anyway.

>> No.22169331

>>22167944
I didn't think the first part was too bad. I liked it opening with an ending, with him packing up and his rumination on the guy he didn't like made me empathize woth his character. Been a while since I read it though

>> No.22169750

>>22167816
I greatly enjoyed it, but I was in Middle School. Same experience with Hemingway and Tolkien though. I'd say it's a great book in the same way Old Man and the Sea is, that they both were a great pleasure to read.

>> No.22169754

>>22169331
turn pager for me: >>22169750

I read it in a couple days. Stopped reading not long after, and I still don't.

>> No.22169756

>>22167816
I liked it better than Lolita

>> No.22170339

The narrator is funny and is like the bitchy teenager we all knew or were at one point.

>> No.22170345

>>22170339
This. Holden Caulfield is the very same phony he tends to rage about. Also, surely it wasn’t 200 pages? Felt like a 150 page book to me.

>> No.22170393

>>22167816
He rapes his sister, Phoebe.

>> No.22170397

OP here, I think I figured out what I dislike about the book. I though maybe he was schizophrenic, or sort of like he was drunk so much that he's about to get incomprehensible, sort of dumb, but not in the Forrest Gump way... and then I remembered the Tropic Thunder quote and it dawned on me that the book goes full retard. He is not a rebel, that is just a mask to hide that he is just too stupid to live a human life.

>> No.22170466

>>22168263
>>22170393
QRD >>22170464

>> No.22170487

>>22170466
Google it, there's an insane reddit post about it. tldr - it's complete bullshit and not real in any fucking way.

>> No.22171697

>>22167816
The first 90% to 95% of the book is kind of shit but necessary for the last 10% to 5% which has a good payoff.
Read it when I was 27, would've hit harder if I read it in my teens.
7.5/10